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KapitalCat
09-03-2006, 11:20 PM
of total offense for UofL...623...Had you told before the game there would be 623 yards of offense I would have thought both teams combined. Is UofL's offense just that great, or is something up with Mike Archer and his leadership of the defense?

Athens2005
09-03-2006, 11:22 PM
Both.

kybuc
09-03-2006, 11:25 PM
Expected! Still 1 to 2 years away from competing!

UKJoey36
09-03-2006, 11:25 PM
that stat is highlighted by 354 yards of rushing for UL

Coldstream
09-03-2006, 11:30 PM
It is both. UL's offense is once again among the best in the country. However, I am pretty PO'd about Archer. I had defended him in last 2 years but tonight's performance was terrible. Blown coverages, gawd awful performance by the D-line (the low point of the game, IMO) and a game plan that was torn to shreds by the UL staff.

Caveman Catfan
09-03-2006, 11:33 PM
kybuc wrote: Expected! Still 1 to 2 years away from competing!

Can you let Brooks stick around for 1 to 2 more years?????

Caveman Catfan
09-03-2006, 11:34 PM
UL O-line blew UK's D-line off the ball. It was embarrassing.

KapitalCat
09-03-2006, 11:34 PM
Caveman Catfan wrote: kybuc wrote: Expected! Still 1 to 2 years away from competing!

Can you let Brooks stick around for 1 to 2 more years?????
That would mean he had up to six years to turn it around, thats too long. Bama had worse probation and they are doing fine.

Caveman Catfan
09-03-2006, 11:37 PM
I agree that six years is too long (four is fair). I disagree that Bama had it worse.

BamaCat86
09-03-2006, 11:38 PM
You cannot compare UK with Bama.

Littlemeyer
09-03-2006, 11:38 PM
BamaCat86 wrote: You cannot compare UK with Bama.
:thumbup:thumbup:thumbup:thumbup Bingo.

KapitalCat
09-03-2006, 11:40 PM
Caveman Catfan wrote: I agree that six years is too long (four is fair). I disagree that Bama had it worse.
I thought their sanctions were worse. In terms of the program though, certainly Bama has it better and has a great talent pool in state to pull from. Do you recall the specifics of Alabama's sanctions vs KY's?

Caveman Catfan
09-03-2006, 11:43 PM
They were close in terms of sanctions, but Bama was much better prepared to deal with the setback.

I. Melvin
09-03-2006, 11:43 PM
I cannot believe that y'all are still making excuses for this bunch.

The Curry Years look positively dominant in comparison.

KapitalCat
09-03-2006, 11:47 PM
Caveman Catfan wrote: They were close in terms of sanctions, but Bama was much better prepared to deal with the setback.
True I agree with you. Did you expect KY to be better in year 4 of Brooks era? Or do you think it's too early to tell? I think we should give it a couple more weeks.

Caveman Catfan
09-03-2006, 11:48 PM
I expected to see vast improvement in year four. Tonight, I just saw more of the same. This could have been three years ago. I did not see an improved team. Did you?

BOURBON TOWN CAT FAN
09-03-2006, 11:48 PM
Is Bush eligible for a medical red shirt this season if he choses ?

KapitalCat
09-03-2006, 11:50 PM
BOURBON TOWN CAT FAN wrote: Is Bush eligible for a medical red shirt this season if he choses ?

I think so.He played as a true freshman.

Coldstream
09-03-2006, 11:50 PM
KapitalCat wrote: Caveman Catfan wrote: They were close in terms of sanctions, but Bama was much better prepared to deal with the setback.
True I agree with you. Did you expect KY to be better in year 4 of Brooks era? Or do you think it's too early to tell? I think we should give it a couple more weeks.
The next two weeks should definitely give us a better look at this team. The D has alot of learning to do if we want to win 6 games. The offense looked inconsistent and needs to get that running game going in every game to at least give us a fighting chance. Burton is our playmaker and we have a few more to count on. However, Woodson needs to make those adjustments much quicker and recognize the blitz.

BamaCat86
09-04-2006, 12:15 AM
UK isn't the same as Alabama.

Does anyone realize that if Alabama's starting QB and star LB played at UK that they would both have lost their scholarships this season. Starting QB John pArker Wilson was convicted of a DUI last season and starting LB Juan Simpson was arrested on drug charges and possession of a stolen firearm this summer. Parker received a one game suspension and Simpson received no disciplinary actions as he started yesterday's game. When asked why he played Simpson in spite of his off field problems, Shula replied, " We need his leadership on the field".

What is my point????? Winning at all costsdoesn't mean that you are a winner.

RedandBlackATTACK
09-04-2006, 12:28 AM
The next two weeks should definitely give us a better look at this team.



I am sorry but that statement is ludicrous. Against TX.State and a bad Ole Miss team? UK was simply unprepared and played like it.

Rick

C-Bus

BigblueDrew
09-04-2006, 02:41 AM
I began watching football games in 1965 and this was perhaps the worst defensive line playI have seen in 40 years. If that poor Bush kid hadn't gotten hurt he might have broken an NCAA record. Also our defensive backs are awful, slow poor technique, arm tackling. Mike Archer should feel as humiliated as his defense must. Many said he failed to adjust, I disagree. You can't make an adjustment when EVERYTHING the opponent tries is working. We may improve sheme wise throughout the year but the lack of talent on the D-line and secondary cannot be fixed(at least this year) and will be the decisive factor in every big game we play this year.

ukwebfan
09-04-2006, 03:18 AM
KapitalCat wrote: Is UofL's offense just that great, or is something up with Mike Archer and his leadership of the defense?
After reading your own post, do you really need to ask???? I've seen all there is to see from Archer's D and that was YEARS AGO. It just doesn't work and if it once did, will it ever get fixed?

Rushing Yards:
UL- 363
UK- 22
Just to be fair, please name for me a top Div. 1 opponent when his defense allowed fewer than 100 rushing yards.Did we out-rush this team to win the rushing stat AND the game? Does this game even exist?

Time-of possession:
UL 38:36
UK 21:24
Can the same question be asked about the time-of-possession stat? These stats go hand-in-hand with winning at all levels. Do these questions ring eerily familiar to anyone following UK football in the Archer years?

Offensive plays:
UL- 87
UK-45

Nuff said.

Spanish Moss
09-04-2006, 08:30 AM
RedandBlackATTACK wrote: The next two weeks should definitely give us a better look at this team.



I am sorry but that statement is ludicrous. Against TX.State and a bad Ole Miss team? UK was simply unprepared and played like it.

Rick

C-Bus

I agree. I was praying that Bush wouldn't come back in the game on crutches because I think he could have gained 12 to 15 yards a carry on one leg against Archer's defense.

We were not ready to play and we will not beat Ole Miss with this effort. Ole Miss has a quarterback and we do not have a defense so you know they are going to score a bunch of points.

Caveman Catfan
09-04-2006, 10:05 AM
RedandBlackATTACK wrote: The next two weeks should definitely give us a better look at this team.
I am sorry but that statement is ludicrous. Against TX.State and a bad Ole Miss team? UK was simply unprepared and played like it.

Rick

C-Bus

I agree with your last comment; however, I am not sure that Ole Miss is a bad team. They have some new skill players that may make them competitive this year. I think Ole Miss may give UK fans an understanding of what to expect for the rest of the season. Decent teams have walked into PPJS and been run off the field only to have decent seasons. The Ole Miss game will let UK fans know if that is possible for this team.

poodoo
09-04-2006, 08:59 PM
BamaCat86 wrote: UK isn't the same as Alabama.

Does anyone realize that if Alabama's starting QB and star LB played at UK that they would both have lost their scholarships this season. Starting QB John pArker Wilson was convicted of a DUI last season and starting LB Juan Simpson was arrested on drug charges and possession of a stolen firearm this summer. Parker received a one game suspension and Simpson received no disciplinary actions as he started yesterday's game. When asked why he played Simpson in spite of his off field problems, Shula replied, " We need his leadership on the field".

What is my point????? Winning at all costsdoesn't mean that you are a winner.





Unreal. Thanks for sharing, BamaCat86. I doubt that eitherplayer would have been playing for UK, based on discipline that has been dealt out here in the past. That's something to be proud of, I suppose, even at this moment of our having given up a ridiculous amount of yardage, especially on the ground.

Further, I so agree that UK and Alabama cannot be compared. It's like apples and oranges. I believeAlabama lost a couple of more scholarships than UK, but the huge difference was that UK had essentially lost another year of recruiting while we had admitted to some violations and had not technically been placed on probation by the NCAA,while Alabama had denied everything and had brought in a typically high class the year before they were placed on probation.

Not only that, but Alabama was really smart. It scheduled a couple of games in Hawaii when it couldn't play in a bowl game, and its playersdidn't leave theschooland top recruits still chose Alabama, probablypartly because ofAlabama's tradition, but those appealing trips to Hawaii surely didn't hurt.

That Alabama had essentially paid over $100,000 for Means, while UK's violations were more of the "nickel and dime"variety still bugs me, as our penalties ending up beingalmost identical while Alabama could have been given the death penalty, according to articles I read at the time.

Mostly it bugs me that probation did indeed barely affect powerful Alabama at all,while it basically killed anon-powerful program like UK's, and would have regardless of who thehead coach had been, in my opinion. :(