I warned folks

[RP_McMurphy]

My first initial reaction after doing some research about Rich Brooks was that this was a horrid hire for the program and would set us back years. I warned people that we would be spending major time and effort to overcome his hiring. He was a panic hire by a AD clearly in over his head. Tonight's through drubbing by Louisville has only reinforced what is painfully obvious. We are going nowhere as a football program with Rich Brooks as head coach. It is my hope that within the next two weeks either Rich or Mitch does the right thing by us Kentucky fans. I don't care if it is a firing or a resignation but the time has come for Rich to leave Lexington.

[Mark Blueblood]

Thanks for your insight RP. As always, you're always so positive.

Can't wait until basketball season.

[Brian McCat]

RP_McMurphy wrote: My first initial reaction after doing some research about Rich Brooks was that this was a horrid hire for the program and would set us back years. I warned people that we would be spending major time and effort to overcome his hiring. He was a panic hire by a AD clearly in over his head. Tonight's through drubbing by Louisville has only reinforced what is painfully obvious. We are going nowhere as a football program with Rich Brooks as head coach. It is my hope that within the next two weeks either Rich or Mitch does the right thing by us Kentucky fans. I don't care if it is a firing or a resignation but the time has come for Rich to leave Lexington.

Nobody argues that he was a desperation hire, a warm body to occupy the space during probation. Even he has admitted that he came to Kentucky when nobody else would. Unless we lose rather soundly to Texas State (we won't) and Ole Miss, we'll have these guys around until the end of the season.

I agree with your assessment that we have not improved significantly. Archer's defense is a mess, completely incapable of defending the edge.

[KapitalCat]

If Mitch panicked hiring Brooks (plausible) then the same holds true now, he can't panick and do something dumb and fire a coach after a couple of games. Fans (me included) have to give this team the next two weeks.

I think offensively they can get better and score points. Defensively, I'm not so sure. KY just can't defend anyone with decent speed and as Brian said, they cannot defend the edge. It's a mess on the defensive side of the ball and has not improved one iota under Archer.

[johnkyblue]

The edge? What are you people talking about? The edge?

Did you not see the first touchdown? You can't defend the edge when your on your ***. You can't defend the middle either!

We are going to watch this team get a lot better and it's gonna be fun - bumpy - but fun.

[Brian McCat]

johnkyblue wrote: The edge? What are you people talking about? The edge?


Chris from Richmond, is that you?

[KapitalCat]

johnkyblue wrote: The edge? What are you people talking about? The edge?

Did you not see the first touchdown? You can't defend the edge when your on your ***. You can't defend the middle either!

We are going to watch this team get a lot better and it's gonna be fun - bumpy - but fun.


Does it matter why you can't contain the edge, whether you are on your butt, or out quicked, out of postion, put into bad matchups or whatever, if you can't contain, you can't defend.

Defensive containment is:

A defensive assignment. On outside runs such as the sweep, one defensive player (usually a cornerback (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornerback) or outside linebacker) is assigned to keep the rusher from getting to the edge of the play and turning upfield. If executed properly, the rusher will have to turn upfield before the play calls for it, giving the linebackers a better chance of stopping the play for little or no gain.

[Spanish Moss]

johnkyblue wrote: The edge? What are you people talking about? The edge?

Did you not see the first touchdown? You can't defend the edge when your on your ***. You can't defend the middle either!

We are going to watch this team get a lot better and it's gonna be fun - bumpy - but fun.

And it is even harder to defend the edge with a defensive coordinator who doesn't understand defensive football. I say he doesn't understand it because if he does understand it we really have a problem.


We haven't had any fun in four years. We haven't beaten a single team we were not suppose to beat and we have lost more than I want to count we should have won. Most of our games against quality teams have been humiliating. Where is the fun in that.

The only fun we have is pregame drinking beer and dreaming of what could and should be. Winning UK football. But so far it is just that, a dream.

[Caveman Catfan]

Brian McCat wrote: Even he has admitted that he came to Kentucky when nobody else would.

This is a fact that is lost on many.

[Buddah]

Caveman Catfan wrote:
Brian McCat wrote: Even he has admitted that he came to Kentucky when nobody else would.Â*

This is a fact that is lost on many.Â*

Â*



is chris hatcher no body, is mike leach no body, is dennis erickson nobody.. just don't buy that no one would come here... people would come here, mitch was just gun shy becasue of other reasons.... per dave baker and others mike leach was very interested in the position when it came open when morris left.. i just don't buy that nobody wanted this job....it just isn't true... bill parcells isn't everybody.

[Stretch]

I didn't take a genius to know that we were in trouble at the time of the Brooks hire. We had maybe 30 SEC-quality players and NCAA sanctions were just kicking in. No established coach would touch the program with a ten-foot pole.

[KapitalCat]

Caveman Catfan wrote: Brian McCat wrote: Even he has admitted that he came to Kentucky when nobody else would.

This is a fact that is lost on many.



Just a thought here....Urban Meyers was available, KY hired Brooks before Utah snatched up Meyer, I wonder if he would have been interested at that time to coach in the SEC? I wonder too, had Mitch looked into Petrino, he was still at Auburn when Morris left and only took the job after John L bolted for Michigan state after their bowl game. Did Mitch contact Petrino?What i've heard from my UK buds is that Mitch thought he had Parcells and he screwed around waiting on a decision. Parcels has admitted he had a high interest. He flirted with Doug Williams who wanted the job and the central florida coach also wanted the job but got tired of waiting. Did Mitch look at any other young and highly thought of offensive coordinators? I don't think he did. I'm not saying that these guys would have done better than Brooks, but I don't totally believe what Brooks keeps saying..."no one else wanted the job". I've never really heard Mitch say that.

[Caveman Catfan]

Sorry, but the rumor that Leach was coming to UK is one that does not float with me. Give me the source so that we can test that rumor. I just don't buy it.

Parcells was never coming to UK. I don't care what his publicist says or how many talks they had, he was not coming to UK.

Erickson? I heard his name from fans, but do not recall him ever being seriously considered. After the mess Mumme left, I am not sure that UK could afford to hire Erickson. I think the NCAA would have placed a permanent investigator on the campus, had we made that hire.

Hatcher? Hire a young coach who had not proven himself to rebuild a program just because he runs Mumme's offense? Not a good idea. I guess there are a ton of Div. 11 coaches and high school coaches that Barnhart could have hired, if that is what you want. Bob Beatty might have considered the job . . .

[johnkyblue]

You really want an AD that says that the program isn't worth touching with a ten foot pole for coaches? REALLY?!?!

And no, I am not Chris from Richmond.

[Buddah]

Caveman Catfan wrote:
Sorry, but the rumor that Leach was coming to UK is one that does not float with me.Â* Give me the source so that we can test that rumor.Â* I just don't buy it.

Parcells was never coming to UK.Â* I don't care what his publicist says or how many talks they had, he was not coming to UK.

Erickson?Â* I heard his name from fans, but do not recall him ever being seriously considered.Â* After the mess Mumme left, I am not sure that UK could afford to hire Erickson.Â* I think the NCAA would have placed a permanent investigator on the campus, had we made that hire.

Hatcher?Â* Hire a young coach who had not proven himself to rebuild a program just because he runs Mumme's offense?Â* Not a good idea.Â* I guess there are a ton of Div. 11 coaches and high school coaches that Barnhart could have hired, if that is what you want.Â* Bob Beatty might have considered the job . . .


i don't have the link, but it was on a radio station, people on the cats pause have talked about it and one had a transcript a while ago. i did a search and couldn't find anything, but it is there.

why not hire hatcher then ? hire veterans such as brooks and archer and what have we got to show for it. that's wht i thought. he would run mummme's offense, and with derek and jared, and other recievers we had, that may have paid off. think outside box. also i wouldn't be so quick to dismiss div 2 or div 1 aa coaches, there is/were some talent there.

charlie strong per reports in our OWN lexington hearald last year was said to have wanted this job and he wanted to bring chris hatcher from voldasta as his oc... to say no one wanted this job is just a ready made excuse for some, not saying, but for some.

[KapitalCat]

Caveman Catfan wrote: Sorry, but the rumor that Leach was coming to UK is one that does not float with me. Give me the source so that we can test that rumor. I just don't buy it.

Parcells was never coming to UK. I don't care what his publicist says or how many talks they had, he was not coming to UK.

Erickson? I heard his name from fans, but do not recall him ever being seriously considered. After the mess Mumme left, I am not sure that UK could afford to hire Erickson. I think the NCAA would have placed a permanent investigator on the campus, had we made that hire.

Hatcher? Hire a young coach who had not proven himself to rebuild a program just because he runs Mumme's offense? Not a good idea. I guess there are a ton of Div. 11 coaches and high school coaches that Barnhart could have hired, if that is what you want. Bob Beatty might have considered the job . . .


I never said anything about leach. My point was that Mitch thought he had Parcels and scewed around waiting on him and that cost him valuable time and the opportunity to look at other coaches. When Uk hired Brooks, Erickson was still at OregonSt so that was a moot point. I do think if Brooks is gone after the season that Erickson will get a call from Mitch. Mitch did hire him at Oregon St.

We can agree to disagree butI will never believethat no one else wanted the job, that quote fromBrooks is getting as old as 'we were just not ready to play" quote. BTW, Erickson is back into coachingat Idaho. They lost 27-17 at Michigan State on Saturday, gave them a heck of a game. Last year Idaho was 2-9. It will be interesting to follow their progress.

[Athens2005]

Caveman Catfan wrote: Brian McCat wrote: Even he has admitted that he came to Kentucky when nobody else would.

This is a fact that is lost on many.




And it is a comment that shouldn't be made by the current coach. (Whether true, or not).

Sounds like another in his long list of excuses.

Honestly, RB makes me sick. :thumbdown

[ukwebfan]

Sounds like the company line coming from RP but it only resembles the football program. IF you wait long enough though, he'll have you believe Tubby and Brooks are cut from the same cloth.:rolleyes:

[T75]

Brian McCat wrote:

I agree with your assessment that we have not improved significantly. Archer's defense is a mess, completely incapable of defending the edge.


Last night the defense couldn't defend anything--edge, middle or in between. We were totally whupped up front by the Cards offensive line. But our new and improved O-line was whupped just as badly by the Cards defenders. So if we're going to get rid of Archer, what are we going to do about Joker? We had maybe 6 decent offensive plays last night. So you might say our offense broke down as oftenas did our defense.

The biggest reason for talking coach change IMO would be because the Cards have won the mind game and our coaches and players have bought in to their claims of being a totally better class team than the Cats. We won't beat them until we have a change of belief. This year I think the change of belief was limited to us fans who bought into all the Cat talk over the past 8 months.

Gotta wonder what players like Micah are thinking about their decision to come to UK. So many of our recruits have voiced the opinion that the program was headed in the right direction and that was why they signed with UK---wanting to be a part of something special. Last night's game isn't our season but it surely has hurt us for seasons to come.

[Aike]

I agree with Buddah (pause for lightning strike). :)

Buddah wrote: Caveman Catfan wrote:
Sorry, but the rumor that Leach was coming to UK is one that does not float with me. Give me the source so that we can test that rumor. I just don't buy it.

Parcells was never coming to UK. I don't care what his publicist says or how many talks they had, he was not coming to UK.

Erickson? I heard his name from fans, but do not recall him ever being seriously considered. After the mess Mumme left, I am not sure that UK could afford to hire Erickson. I think the NCAA would have placed a permanent investigator on the campus, had we made that hire.

Hatcher? Hire a young coach who had not proven himself to rebuild a program just because he runs Mumme's offense? Not a good idea. I guess there are a ton of Div. 11 coaches and high school coaches that Barnhart could have hired, if that is what you want. Bob Beatty might have considered the job . . .


i don't have the link, but it was on a radio station, people on the cats pause have talked about it and one had a transcript a while ago. i did a search and couldn't find anything, but it is there.

why not hire hatcher then ? hire veterans such as brooks and archer and what have we got to show for it. that's wht i thought. he would run mummme's offense, and with derek and jared, and other recievers we had, that may have paid off. think outside box. also i wouldn't be so quick to dismiss div 2 or div 1 aa coaches, there is/were some talent there.

charlie strong per reports in our OWN lexington hearald last year was said to have wanted this job and he wanted to bring chris hatcher from voldasta as his oc... to say no one wanted this job is just a ready made excuse for some, not saying, but for some.

[gsb315]

Let's not forget that Louisville is a really good team. This is what happens when really good teams play mediocre teams. The fact is, UK is not on the same leve as UL. The disparity in talent has closed, somewhat. However, UK's ability to execute a gameplan is still somewhat suspect. The good things is this. Assuming UK's coaches know how to put together a decent gameplan, experience and time should cure most of UK's problems. However, if these problems continue to persist, then changes at the coaching leve need to be made. Plain and simple and only time will tell.

[RedandBlackATTACK]

The biggest reason for talking coach change IMO would be because the Cards have won the mind game and our coaches and players have bought in to their claims of being a totally better class team than the Cats.
Come on T, your sounding like Dr.Todd. There is little if any doubt that UL plays at a different-higher level and has for the last several seasons.

Rick

C-Bus

[CARDSRTOAST]

RedandBlackATTACK wrote: The biggest reason for talking coach change IMO would be because the Cards have won the mind game and our coaches and players have bought in to their claims of being a totally better class team than the Cats.
Come on T, your sounding like Dr.Todd. There is little if any doubt that UL plays at a different-higher level and has for the last several seasons.

Rick

C-Bus






Better still..Let's drop the Pigeons from our schedule and let them live in their own world..:rolleyes:

[uk7274]

Brooks, Archer, Joker, Sanders, Barnhardt and Todd are utterly incompetent when it comes to big time college football. I've watched and supported UK fb for over 40 years...have never seen a much worse physical beating than we took last night. Can't run and can't stop the run. U of L is now the program in Kentucky. There is no way we are going to tell kids in western ky to go to UK until the above fb coaches are gone. Wouldn't you go to U of L over UK if you were a D-I prospect? This BS I keep hearing about Barnhardt seriously made a run to get Parcells is Barnhardt's malignant narcisscism problem. I feel for our players...give us a coaching staff headed by a real coach who doesn't have a career losing record; if you've coached for over 20 years and you have a losing record, it means you are a loser. We will be lucky to beat Texas State...and Ole Miss is a much better coached team than UK. The future is bleak...just hope our players play for each other because our coaching staff is about as bad as it gets.

[Buddah]

Aike wrote:
I agree with Buddah (pause for lightning strike). :)

Buddah wrote: Caveman Catfan wrote:
Sorry, but the rumor that Leach was coming to UK is one that does not float with me.Â* Give me the source so that we can test that rumor.Â* I just don't buy it.

Parcells was never coming to UK.Â* I don't care what his publicist says or how many talks they had, he was not coming to UK.

Erickson?Â* I heard his name from fans, but do not recall him ever being seriously considered.Â* After the mess Mumme left, I am not sure that UK could afford to hire Erickson.Â* I think the NCAA would have placed a permanent investigator on the campus, had we made that hire.

Hatcher?Â* Hire a young coach who had not proven himself to rebuild a program just because he runs Mumme's offense?Â* Not a good idea.Â* I guess there are a ton of Div. 11 coaches and high school coaches that Barnhart could have hired, if that is what you want.Â* Bob Beatty might have considered the job . . .


i don't have the link, but it was on a radio station, people on the cats pause have talked about it and one had a transcript a while ago. i did a search and couldn't find anything, but it is there.

why not hire hatcher then ? hire veterans such as brooks and archer and what have we got to show for it. that's wht i thought. he would run mummme's offense, and with derek and jared, and other recievers we had, that may have paid off. think outside box. also i wouldn't be so quick to dismiss div 2 or div 1 aa coaches, there is/were some talent there.

charlie strong per reports in our OWN lexington hearald last year was said to have wanted this job and he wanted to bring chris hatcher from voldasta as his oc... to say no one wanted this job is just a ready made excuse for some, not saying, but for some.


you are four this week, flacat, you, brassowfan and kybuc.. one more and it will be five..:cool:

[BrassowFan]

Caveman Catfan wrote: Brian McCat wrote: Even he has admitted that he came to Kentucky when nobody else would.

This is a fact that is lost on many.




This is crap!

Mitch would have us believe that we were about to get Parcels. Parcels!!! If this is true, and by most accounts it is, there's not just a good coach willing to come to Lexington but to some, THE coach in the game.

If we were in a position to get a coach like Parcels, surely there were others who were also willing to come to UK. You can't believe that we were in a position to get such a great hire and at the same time believe that we were lucky to even have a coach. It's contradictory at best.

Now, if you want to say that UK isn't serious about the football program and isn't willing to pay for a top coach.. that's something that I totally agree with. I think the argument is there that the new AD has only accomplished one thing for the tier I sports... he's successfully raised the prices.

IMO, it's time to look beyond Brooks, football and/or basketball, and decide what type of program that the fans expect and then hire a new AD and coaches who are capable of bringing that to UK. If true that we had to resort to our last option to hire a football coach, at a SEC school no less, than that should've been an immediate sign that we don't have the right AD... and now we don't have the right coach either.

UK needs to decide what it wants to be and then take the necessary steps to get there. As of now we just get more of the same and the weekend after the 1st game is always the same... and yet somehow we always expect change when it's something that we don't ask for... at least not loud enough. (IMO, of course)

[RP_McMurphy]

The fact of the matter is only a short letup by Louisville kept the game from being a 40-50 point blowout on National TV. It was plainly evident that Louisville could do anything, anywhere it wanted to last night. It could score with it's quarterback, it's running backs, it's second string, it's third string, heck maybe even a Pop Warner team in Louisville would have scored against us last night. We were slow and plainly out matched in terms of physical strength and preparation.Right now we are closer to a 3 win season that any thought of a bowl matchup. Don't you think the Florida's, Georgia's and UT's are just frothing at the mouth to get their stats against our pourous defense. Look the longer we wait to do the right thing. The harder it gets to hire the right coach for the program. Time is not a ally here. Fire him and move on with the thing. After all this is the UNIVERSITY OF KENTUCKY not the University of Mitch and Rich.

[Athens2005]

BrassowFan wrote: Caveman Catfan wrote: Brian McCat wrote: Even he has admitted that he came to Kentucky when nobody else would.

This is a fact that is lost on many.




This is crap!

Mitch would have us believe that we were about to get Parcels. Parcels!!! If this is true, and by most accounts it is, there's not just a good coach willing to come to Lexington but to some, THE coach in the game.

If we were in a position to get a coach like Parcels, surely there were others who were also willing to come to UK. You can't believe that we were in a position to get such a great hire and at the same time believe that we were lucky to even have a coach. It's contradictory at best.

Now, if you want to say that UK isn't serious about the football program and isn't willing to pay for a top coach.. that's something that I totally agree with. I think the argument is there that the new AD has only accomplished one thing for the tier I sports... he's successfully raised the prices.

IMO, it's time to look beyond Brooks, football and/or basketball, and decide what type of program that the fans expect and then hire a new AD and coaches who are capable of bringing that to UK. If true that we had to resort to our last option to hire a football coach, at a SEC school no less, than that should've been an immediate sign that we don't have the right AD... and now we don't have the right coach either.

UK needs to decide what it wants to be and then take the necessary steps to get there. As of now we just get more of the same and the weekend after the 1st game is always the same... and yet somehow we always expect change when it's something that we don't ask for... at least not loud enough. (IMO, of course)




Parcells was only interested because he had nothing else to do . . .

until the Dallas Cowboys called. :lol:

[Buddah]

BrassowFan wrote:
Caveman Catfan wrote: Brian McCat wrote: Even he has admitted that he came to Kentucky when nobody else would.Â*

This is a fact that is lost on many.Â*

Â*


This is crap!

Mitch would have us believe that we were about to get Parcels.Â* Parcels!!!Â* If this is true, and by most accounts it is, there's not just a good coach willing to come to Lexington but to some, THE coach in the game.Â*

If we were in a position to get a coach like Parcels, surely there were others who were also willing to come to UK.Â* You can't believe that we were in a position to get such a great hire and at the same time believe that we were lucky to even have a coach.Â* It's contradictory at best.

Now, if you want to say that UK isn't serious about the football program and isn't willing to pay for a top coach.. that's something that I totally agree with.Â* I think the argument is there that the new AD has only accomplished one thing for the tier I sports... he's successfully raised the prices.

IMO, it's time to look beyond Brooks, football and/or basketball, and decide what type of program that the fans expect and then hire a new AD and coaches who are capable of bringing that to UK.Â* If true that we had to resort to our last option to hire a football coach, at a SEC school no less, than that should've been an immediate sign that we don't have the right AD... and now we don't have the right coach either.

UK needs to decide what it wants to be and then take the necessary steps to get there.Â* As of now we just get more of the same and the weekend after the 1st game is always the same... and yet somehow we always expect change when it's something that we don't ask for... at least not loud enough.Â* (IMO, of course)

Â*


GREAT POST.. it seems kind of naive, that we could get parcells yet the drop off is so great that no other coach would talk to us and we settle for brooks. it is like saying you are engaged to playmate of the year, and she breaks it off and you are left with carol burnett, there is a disparity there that can't be over stated.

[biglabcatdaddy]

RP - My initial reaction was very similar to yours. I did however wait until half time of the first UK Louisville game, which was also Brooks' first game, to make up my mind. I still don't doubt anyones intentions but intentions don't win football games or turn programs around. I keep thinking ofthe old saying"The best definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results". I think there is some serious insanity going on here! I haven't been back (it's a full day trip from my end of the state) since the first Louisville loss under Brooks' tenure. It's like taking a sharp stick in the eye! Another 2 or 3 win season unless lightening strikes!:shrug:

[Athens2005]

biglabcatdaddy wrote: RP - My initial reaction was very similar to yours. I did however wait until half time of the first UK Louisville game, which was also Brooks' first game, to make up my mind. I still don't doubt anyones intentions but intentions don't win football games or turn programs around. I keep thinking ofthe old saying"The best definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results". I think there is some serious insanity going on here! I haven't been back (it's a full day trip from my end of the state) since the first Louisville loss under Brooks' tenure. It's like taking a sharp stick in the eye! Another 2 or 3 win season unless lightening strikes!:shrug:

That first UL game is much bigger than most people want to make it out to be.

Kentucky should've won that game. We were at home, were returning a lot of offensive talent, and UL was also going through some transition (new coach, etc.)

Nonetheless, we were unprepared to play that night, and things have been downhill ever since.

[Caveman Catfan]

BrassowFan wrote:
This is crap!

Mitch would have us believe that we were about to get Parcels. Parcels!!! If this is true, and by most accounts it is, there's not just a good coach willing to come to Lexington but to some, THE coach in the game.

If we were in a position to get a coach like Parcels, surely there were others who were also willing to come to UK. You can't believe that we were in a position to get such a great hire and at the same time believe that we were lucky to even have a coach. It's contradictory at best.





I wish I could get a list of all the people who actually thought Mitch could land Parcells. I could make a lot of money selling jars of all natural - no preservatives "empty" to them. No one in the football world thought Parcells would come to UK. Mitch thinking he had a chance, if he actually thinks that, must be chalked up to new administrator naivete.

I have spoken with people in theNFL.None thought Parcells could possibly ever coach at UK. It just was never going to happen.

Therefore, Mitch's big adventure is not any example of who Mitch could havegotten to be UK's head coach. There is no correlation between the Parcellsstoryand what caliber a coachwould have come to UK. That argumentjust does not drive.

[BrassowFan]

Caveman Catfan wrote: BrassowFan wrote:
This is crap!

Mitch would have us believe that we were about to get Parcels. Parcels!!! If this is true, and by most accounts it is, there's not just a good coach willing to come to Lexington but to some, THE coach in the game.

If we were in a position to get a coach like Parcels, surely there were others who were also willing to come to UK. You can't believe that we were in a position to get such a great hire and at the same time believe that we were lucky to even have a coach. It's contradictory at best.





I wish I could get a list of all the people who actually thought Mitch could land Parcells. I could make a lot of money selling jars of all natural - no preservatives "empty" to them. No one in the football world thought Parcells would come to UK. Mitch thinking he had a chance, if he actually thinks that, must be chalked up to new administrator naivete.

I have spoken with people in theNFL.None thought Parcells could possibly ever coach at UK. It just was never going to happen.

Therefore, Mitch's big adventure is not any example of who Mitch could havegotten to be UK's head coach. There is no correlation between the Parcellsstoryand what caliber a coachwould have come to UK. That argumentjust does not drive.





Apparently to many, it was a possibility.

Irregardless, UK plays in arguably the #1 league with incredible fan support and facilities... with enough money thrown at a coach, we should be able to get somebody who doesn't have to come out of retirement at the last minute.

[bleedbluelady]

KapitalCat wrote: johnkyblue wrote: The edge? What are you people talking about? The edge?

Did you not see the first touchdown? You can't defend the edge when your on your ***. You can't defend the middle either!

We are going to watch this team get a lot better and it's gonna be fun - bumpy - but fun.


Does it matter why you can't contain the edge, whether you are on your butt, or out quicked, out of postion, put into bad matchups or whatever, if you can't contain, you can't defend.

Defensive containment is:

A defensive assignment. On outside runs such as the sweep, one defensive player (usually a cornerback (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornerback) or outside linebacker) is assigned to keep the rusher from getting to the edge of the play and turning upfield. If executed properly, the rusher will have to turn upfield before the play calls for it, giving the linebackers a better chance of stopping the play for little or no gain.


Didn't we know coming into the season that cornerback was our biggest weakness. Don't get me wrong, I am in no way defending last night's performance (or lack of).

[Buddah]

bleedbluelady wrote:
KapitalCat wrote: johnkyblue wrote: The edge?Â* What are you people talking about?Â* The edge?

Did you not see the first touchdown?Â* You can't defend the edge when your on your ***.Â* You can't defend the middle either!

We are going to watch this team get a lot better and it's gonna be fun - bumpy - but fun.


Does it matter why you can't contain the edge, whether you are onÂ* your butt, or out quicked, out of postion, put into bad matchups or whatever, if you can't contain, you can't defend.Â*

Defensive containment is:

A defensive assignment. On outside runs such as the sweep, one defensive player (usually a cornerback (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornerback) or outside linebacker) is assigned to keep the rusher from getting to the edge of the play and turning upfield. If executed properly, the rusher will have to turn upfield before the play calls for it, giving the linebackers a better chance of stopping the play for little or no gain.
Â*

Didn't we know coming into the season that cornerback was our biggest weakness.Â* Don't get me wrong, I am in no way defending last night's performance (or lack of).




good point and one i have talked about as well.

[RedandBlackATTACK]

I followed the coaching search from the Parcels rumors to the Doug Williams meeting with Mitch at the Cincy airport and parts in between.

Chasing Parcels was a joke and a waste of time not to mention money i.e., footing the bill for the 10 minute meeting in a New York 5 Star hotel. That my friends was as close to Parcels as Mitch got. A ten minute meeting over a cup of coffee in the Big Apple.

The coaching search was in fact a disaster. Brooks was in fact a desperation hire although admittedly, I thought at the least Brooks could bring some stability to the program and possibly fielda competitive team.

On both countshe has failed miserably. Unfortunately, I don't believe Dr.Todd agrees with my assessment.

Mitch and Todd are accountable.

[biglabcatdaddy]

Athens2005 wrote:

That first UL game is much bigger than most people want to make it out to be.

Kentucky should've won that game. We were at home, were returning a lot of offensive talent, and UL was also going through some transition (new coach, etc.)

Nonetheless, we were unprepared to play that night, and things have been downhill ever since.



AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[blueheretic]

Caveman Catfan wrote: Brian McCat wrote: Even he has admitted that he came to Kentucky when nobody else would.

This is a fact that is lost on many.




If this is the best that UK Football can get, they should just close the doors on the stadium.

Let's stop torturing the people of Kentucky. Let's put an end to the misery and agony.

[Caveman Catfan]

Its not the best UK could get right now. I think with probation behind us, with schollies at full strength, and with the group of kids on campus, Barnhart should be able to lure a young talented up-and-comer to UK.