View Full Version : How we stack up in the SEC after week #1
Mountain Cat
09-05-2006, 12:28 PM
T O T A L O F F E N S E
Rank Team G Pl Yds Avg TD Ydspg
8. Tennessee1 61 514 8.43 5 514.00 15. Auburn 1 63 484 7.68 4 484.0018. LSU1 59 469 7.95 6 469.00 37. Florida 1 59 391 6.63 5 391.005. Alabama1 65 378 5.82 2 378.00 60. Mississippi 1 62 337 5.42 4 337.0076. Georgia1 52 295 5.67 6 295.00 79. Arkansas 1 59 287 4.86 2 287.0084. South Carolina1 56 274 4.89 1 274.00 88. Kentucky 1 48 260 5.40 4 260.00103. Vanderbilt1 52 171 3.29 1 171.00105. Mississippi St. 1 56 161 2.88 0 161.00
T O T A L D E F E N S E Rank TeamG Pl Yds Avg TD Ydspg 12. South Carolina 1 56 161 2.88 0 161.0017. LSU1 52 176 3.38 0 176.00 21. Georgia 1 62 193 3.11 1 193.0038. Auburn1 61 274 4.49 2 274.00 38. Mississippi St. 1 56 274 4.89 1 274.0050. Florida1 62 295 4.76 1 295.00 66. Tennessee 1 65 336 5.17 2 336.0078. Alabama1 59 372 6.31 2 372.0081. Mississippi 1 70 374 5.32 3 374.0082. Vanderbilt 1 73 381 5.22 3 381.00102. Arkansas 1 80 472 5.90 6 472.00117. Kentucky1 88 631 7.20 7 631.00Net Yards (TOTAL OFFENSE minus TOTAL DEFENSE)
yrdsLSU 293 Auburn 210Tennessee 178South Carolina 113Georgia 102Florida 96Alabama 6Mississippi -37Arkansas -185Vanderbilt -210Mississippi St. -213Kentucky -371
Athens2005
09-05-2006, 12:41 PM
It's just one game. :cool:
flacat22
09-05-2006, 12:41 PM
631.00?????????????!!!!!!
(.35 mile)
:shock:
Will Lavender
09-05-2006, 12:42 PM
I don't know if it's fair to be too critical of the offense. The offense was put in a bad position very early on when Archer's defense couldn't tackle anybody. When you're blown away on the first drive like we were, I think that throws a wrench in the entire gameplan. (The third-down quarterback draw with Pulley on the first UK possession was a head-scratcher, though.)
I thought the offense came along fairly well as the game went on. Burton and Lyons had very good games. Woodson's decisions were, for the most part, pretty good.
It's the defense that most frustrated me, and if it's not fixed then this team is probably going to win no more than 3 games.
Mountain Cat
09-05-2006, 12:57 PM
Will Lavender wrote: I don't know if it's fair to be too critical of the offense. The offense was put in a bad position very early on when Archer's defense couldn't tackle anybody. When you're blown away on the first drive like we were, I think that throws a wrench in the entire gameplan. (The third-down quarterback draw with Pulley on the first UK possession was a head-scratcher, though.)
I thought the offense came along fairly well as the game went on. Burton and Lyons had very good games. Woodson's decisions were, for the most part, pretty good.
It's the defense that most frustrated me, and if it's not fixed then this team is probably going to win no more than 3 games.
If you take away two offensive pass plays (80yrds to Lyons and 73 yrds to Burton) that took approximately 20 seconds of total game time, this offensive juggernaut put up a whopping 107 yards during the entire rest of the game.
I would argue that those two plays occurred after UL had us in a hole so deep that it was probably hard to even take us seriously. Burton is the real deal, and Lyons looked like he will be a contributor. Lyons however was an unknown quantity to UL and he only made two catches all night.
Considering that we only rushed for 22 yards (116th in week #1) for the night, I think it is fair to say the offense was equally terrible.
I fully think that our players are more capable than this, but our coaches need to be fired.
MSU Cat
09-05-2006, 01:56 PM
Mountain Cat wrote:
If you take away two offensive pass plays (80yrds to Lyons and 73 yrds to Burton) that took approximately 20 seconds of total game time, this offensive juggernaut put up a whopping 107 yards during the entire rest of the game.
I would argue that those two plays occurred after UL had us in a hole so deep that it was probably hard to even take us seriously. Burton is the real deal, and Lyons looked like he will be a contributor. Lyons however was an unknown quantity to UL and he only made two catches all night.
Considering that we only rushed for 22 yards (116th in week #1) for the night, I think it is fair to say the offense was equally terrible.
I fully think that our players are more capable than this, but our coaches need to be fired.
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I agree wholeheartedly MC. We really haven't improved on either side of the ball since Mr. Brooks has been at the helm.
After sleeping on it a few days, I am just going to wait and see. It was awful, it was embarassing, but it was 1 game. If they come out and play well the next two and win fairly easily you would have to say we are improved. Clearly we were not improved in this game, but there are still 11 games to show that we are. We better be if this staff has a desire to be here next year, or even later this year for that matter.
I think the O will be better, but the OL has to be better than last year and WAY better than Sunday. Surely the D can't be as bad as they looked against UL, at least I hope not. If the D isn't WAY better we won't win3 games this year much less 6.
Cincy110
09-05-2006, 03:14 PM
I think your guys expectations for UK football are WAY too high.
baldcat
09-05-2006, 03:16 PM
RCS, if the D puts up similar piss poor performances over the next two games...do you see Archer surviving or will it have to be the entire staff canned at the end of the season?
RCS wrote:
After sleeping on it a few days, I am just going to wait and see. It was awful, it was embarassing, but it was 1 game. If they come out and play well the next two and win fairly easily you would have to say we are improved. Clearly we were not improved in this game, but there are still 11 games to show that we are. We better be if this staff has a desire to be here next year, or even later this year for that matter.
I think the O will be better, but the OL has to be better than last year and WAY better than Sunday. Surely the D can't be as bad as they looked against UL, at least I hope not. If the D isn't WAY better we won't win3 games this year much less 6.
Will Lavender
09-05-2006, 03:21 PM
Mountain Cat wrote: Will Lavender wrote: I don't know if it's fair to be too critical of the offense. The offense was put in a bad position very early on when Archer's defense couldn't tackle anybody. When you're blown away on the first drive like we were, I think that throws a wrench in the entire gameplan. (The third-down quarterback draw with Pulley on the first UK possession was a head-scratcher, though.)
I thought the offense came along fairly well as the game went on. Burton and Lyons had very good games. Woodson's decisions were, for the most part, pretty good.
It's the defense that most frustrated me, and if it's not fixed then this team is probably going to win no more than 3 games.
If you take away two offensive pass plays (80yrds to Lyons and 73 yrds to Burton) that took approximately 20 seconds of total game time, this offensive juggernaut put up a whopping 107 yards during the entire rest of the game.
And if you took away Louisville's rushing game, we probably would have won.
Good thing the game isn't played like that. Those long plays to Burton and Lyons are on the books. They counted.
We all thought our passing game was going to struggle because of our receivers. It didn't. And you would expect that the running game will get better;both Little and Dixon haveperformed well before.
So offensively, I'm not too concerned.
Defensively, I think we sucked royally. It was about as bad as I've seen a UK defense play. If the D doesn't improve, we're going to struggle even against the Central Michigans and Texas States on this schedule.
baldcat wrote: RCS, if the D puts up similar piss poor performances over the next two games...do you see Archer surviving or will it have to be the entire staff canned at the end of the season?
RCS wrote:
After sleeping on it a few days, I am just going to wait and see. It was awful, it was embarassing, but it was 1 game. If they come out and play well the next two and win fairly easily you would have to say we are improved. Clearly we were not improved in this game, but there are still 11 games to show that we are. We better be if this staff has a desire to be here next year, or even later this year for that matter.
I think the O will be better, but the OL has to be better than last year and WAY better than Sunday. Surely the D can't be as bad as they looked against UL, at least I hope not. If the D isn't WAY better we won't win3 games this year much less 6.
A coordinator is almost never fired mid season so I doubt we will see anything here. Brooks may take a more active approach with the D but I doubt we see Archer get the ax. If the D isn't better the next two games everyone might be losing their jobs, not just Archer. Right now it is a two game season for UK. Lose either and the death bell is tolling, win and you live to fight another game.
flacat22
09-05-2006, 05:24 PM
Cincy110 wrote: I think your guys expectations for UK football are WAY too high.
asking to be competitive, to not be blown away or embarassed and consistantly beat teams that an SEC team should beat (Ohio, N. texas, etc.) are lofty expectations????
Spanish Moss
09-05-2006, 07:13 PM
Cincy110 wrote: I think your guys expectations for UK football are WAY too high.
Too high? All we ask is for the team to show up ready to play and to give it 100%. We don't expect SEC championships or National Championships. We don't demand the team beat UF, UGA or UT. Just be competitive. We would like to beat these teams but we know it is a dream.
Most of us would do cartwheels down Main St. if the team could win six games and we would pass out if we won seven. A bowl game every once in awhile would be nice. We dream and pray for it but do not expect it.
Meanwhile the team asks us to be patient, pay our $25 bucks for a ticket and wait till next year. It is always next year and next year never seems to come. We lose games we are not suppose to lose and we never seem to win a game we are not suppose to win.
To be honest, our expectations are probably as low or lower than any other team in the SEC, including Vandy.
Maybe it will change this year. If not, then next year or the next or the next or the next or the next.
Mackcat
09-05-2006, 09:46 PM
Why do I have a fealing that this season could turn into a classic UK situation where the offense is good and averages like 30 a game, but the D gives up 50 a game, we go 4-8, and guess what? Next year Rich is back with some new Defensive cordinater from his old out west days, talking about how they are gonna start doing things the right way. Maybe it is karma.
Cincy110
09-05-2006, 10:08 PM
If you can't beat the Ohio's, how do you expect to win 6 and go to a bowl??? Almost every person on here thinks UK can win 6. I don't see how. Miss, Miss St, and S. Carolina would have to be wins, correct? If that's the case, GOOD LUCK.
Cincy110 wrote: If you can't beat the Ohio's, how do you expect to win 6 and go to a bowl??? Almost every person on here thinks UK can win 6. I don't see how. Miss, Miss St, and S. Carolina would have to be wins, correct? If that's the case, GOOD LUCK.
To win six we need to beat Texas State, Ole Miss, Central Michigan, Mississippi State, UL-Monroe and Vandy. These are the six weakest on our schedule.
We will likely be the favorite in four to five of these games. So this staff must do what they have not yet done, win one or two games in which we are the underdog.
South Carolina only comes into the six win equation if we loose to Ole Miss.
Mountain Cat
09-05-2006, 11:07 PM
There is no way in Hell that Brooks can guide this team to 6 wins this year. He may have once been a good coach, but the game has bypassed him andhe is no longer showing he is capable of performing at this level.
I wish the man would do the right thing and just tender his resignation so that everyone can move forward. He should be enjoying his golden years with his grandchildren, rather than continuing to embarrass himself and ruining what is left of his once good reputation.
RB, Just step down, and say that you think it is in the best interest of the players and the University and you can go out with your head high that you gave it your best shot, but have come to recognize that you just don't have enough energy to compete at this level anymore.
Will,
We hit a couple of bombs, which is nice, but our offense was still a mess. You have to be able to consistently break off yardage in 4-6 yard chunks, or you have virtually no shot of winning consistently. For one thing, failure to do so keeps the defense on the field way too much.
Plus, when you're down 31-0, it's tough to say whether we hit big plays because of execution, or because UL let down a bit.
Comparing UL's rushing game to our passing game Sunday night doesn't make much sense. UL did not just benefit from a couple of long runs. They gashed us all night. Besides that, I think we still would have lost had we contained UL's rushing game. Brohm could have moved the chains all night all by himself. Of course, we'll never know, since UL could move the ball at will by any chosen method.
Will Lavender wrote: Mountain Cat wrote: Will Lavender wrote: I don't know if it's fair to be too critical of the offense. The offense was put in a bad position very early on when Archer's defense couldn't tackle anybody. When you're blown away on the first drive like we were, I think that throws a wrench in the entire gameplan. (The third-down quarterback draw with Pulley on the first UK possession was a head-scratcher, though.)
I thought the offense came along fairly well as the game went on. Burton and Lyons had very good games. Woodson's decisions were, for the most part, pretty good.
It's the defense that most frustrated me, and if it's not fixed then this team is probably going to win no more than 3 games.
If you take away two offensive pass plays (80yrds to Lyons and 73 yrds to Burton) that took approximately 20 seconds of total game time, this offensive juggernaut put up a whopping 107 yards during the entire rest of the game.
And if you took away Louisville's rushing game, we probably would have won.
Good thing the game isn't played like that. Those long plays to Burton and Lyons are on the books. They counted.
We all thought our passing game was going to struggle because of our receivers. It didn't. And you would expect that the running game will get better;both Little and Dixon haveperformed well before.
So offensively, I'm not too concerned.
Defensively, I think we sucked royally. It was about as bad as I've seen a UK defense play. If the D doesn't improve, we're going to struggle even against the Central Michigans and Texas States on this schedule.
MSU Cat
09-06-2006, 02:33 PM
Right you are Aike. The fact that our team amassed a whopping total of 22 yards on the ground tells me that our offense leaves a whole lot to be desired. Burton and Lyons made some big catches. However, if a UofL defense can hold us to under 25 yards on the ground it is going to be even more humiliating when we travel to Florida and LSU. Things have gone from bad to worse in Lexington and I'm afraid the only thing that will fix it is an entire overhaul of the entire coaching staff.
Aike wrote:
Will,
We hit a couple of bombs, which is nice, but our offense was still a mess. You have to be able to consistently break off yardage in 4-6 yard chunks, or you have virtually no shot of winning consistently. For one thing, failure to do so keeps the defense on the field way too much.
Plus, when you're down 31-0, it's tough to say whether we hit big plays because of execution, or because UL let down a bit.
Comparing UL's rushing game to our passing game Sunday night doesn't make much sense. UL did not just benefit from a couple of long runs. They gashed us all night. Besides that, I think we still would have lost had we contained UL's rushing game. Brohm could have moved the chains all night all by himself. Of course, we'll never know, since UL could move the ball at will by any chosen method.
CATHYnKY
09-06-2006, 02:59 PM
OK guys. MY positive. After the UL game last year I had a lot of expectations and was ready to go bowling. After Sunday, I have no expectations at all. Any improvement would be a positive. ANYTHING!!!! And yes. I will have on my blue tinted glasses come Saturday at Commonwealth.:cool:
poodoo
09-06-2006, 09:56 PM
RCS wrote: After sleeping on it a few days, I am just going to wait and see. It was awful, it was embarassing, but it was 1 game. If they come out and play well the next two and win fairly easily you would have to say we are improved. Clearly we were not improved in this game, but there are still 11 games to show that we are. We better be if this staff has a desire to be here next year, or even later this year for that matter.
I think the O will be better, but the OL has to be better than last year and WAY better than Sunday. Surely the D can't be as bad as they looked against UL, at least I hope not. If the D isn't WAY better we won't win3 games this year much less 6.
FWIW, an excellent post, in my opinion, RCS. Yes, it was awful. Yes, it was embarrassing. Yet, it was ONLY one game, as you say. Let's just WAIT AND SEE how we play these next couple of games.
Read Babe Parilli's comments in another thread. That's exactly what he says. He says thatCoach Brooks has time to "redeem himself." Let's WAIT AND SEE.

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