Top 10 possible coaching moves

[freethrow]

Possible non BCS coaches that could move to BCS programs.

I think there is a lot of coaching talent out there that if they had the talent to work with they could be hanging with the big boy's. Some do it anyway.

http://www.sportsline.com/collegebasketball/story/9652773

[UKfaninCO]

freethrow wrote: Possible non BCS coaches that could move to BCS programs.

I think there is a lot of coaching talent out there that if they had the talent to work with they could be hanging with the big boy's. Some do it anyway.

http://www.sportsline.com/collegebasketball/story/9652773





Linkified (http://www.sportsline.com/collegebasketball/story/9652773).

[Chunks06]

Looks pretty accurate. THey wont be the top choices but they will be on the ballot.

[blueheretic]

10. John Pelphrey (South Alabama) and Travis Ford (UMass): Eventually Tubby Smith is going to grow tired of Kentucky's rabid fan base and semi-retire or take an NBA job. Who knows, it might happen after this season, considering the Wildcat faithful isn't happy with the coach's underwhelming recruiting of late. Exhibit A is this song (http://www.soundclick.com/pro/view/01/default.cfm?bandid=550517&songid=4156138&content=s ong) written by OH Napier titled Final Four or Hit the Door (Please. You have to hear this. Follow the link. Thank me later).

Anyway, if Smith does indeed hit the door, two of UK's favorite sons -- Pelphrey and Ford -- could be among the candidates if they are coming off big years. Of course, they'd probably need Florida's Billy Donovan to reject the gig first. But we'll deal with that when the time comes.

[XUKX]

Has anyone listened to 'Exhibit A'?

I'm utterly speechless..........

[SunBaller]

blueheretic wrote:
10. John Pelphrey (South Alabama) and Travis Ford (UMass): Eventually Tubby Smith is going to grow tired of Kentucky's rabid fan base and semi-retire or take an NBA job. Who knows, it might happen after this season, considering the Wildcat faithful isn't happy with the coach's underwhelming recruiting of late. Exhibit A is this song (http://www.soundclick.com/pro/view/01/default.cfm?bandid=550517&songid=4156138&content=s ong) written by OH Napier titled Final Four or Hit the Door (Please. You have to hear this. Follow the link. Thank me later).

Anyway, if Smith does indeed hit the door, two of UK's favorite sons -- Pelphrey and Ford -- could be among the candidates if they are coming off big years. Of course, they'd probably need Florida's Billy Donovan to reject the gig first. But we'll deal with that when the time comes.



:thumbup:thumbupKentucky needs Kentucky Boys. :thumbup:thumbup. Have a bowel movement or get off the pot Tubby.

[Buddah]

there is no way, that ford or pel will coach here if tubby leaves in the next one or two years... they simply are not ready for this job... as far as the article, i think dana altman should be number 1, that guy has done more with less for far less than others.

[Wildcat Larry]

XUKX wrote: Has anyone listened to 'Exhibit A'?

I'm utterly speechless..........

Yes. What a resounding endorsement for birth control. :rolleyes: :thumbdown

[Buddah]

LMAO, that is so funny and sad at the same time. LMAO:lol::cry:oh napier is a real enigma,needs to learn a linear narrative of a song, he goes backand f orth from killing his woman and tubby can't coach....what ?i heard a rumor that oh napier is really will lavenderlmao

[PsychoCat]

The song is not funny it is disgusting :thumbdown

[SunBaller]

3. Dana Altman (Creighton): Altman's situation is difficult to gauge because he actually has a non-BCS job that rivals many BCS jobs. The Bluejays are the class of the Missouri Valley Conference, having been to six of the past eight NCAA Tournaments. And, it's worth noting, it would have probably been seven of eight if Nate Funk hadn't been limited to just six appearances because of injury last season.

Altman reportedly makes about $800,000 a year, and Creighton draws 13,900 fans per game, a number that is -- bet you didn't know this -- greater than what Texas, Oklahoma State and Florida draw to their home games. So ... oh, never mind. If Altman wanted to leave, he could've done it by now. Better yet, why would he leave? He's off the list. Let's try No. 3 again.

How in the Sam Hill can a team win the NCAA National Basketball Championship when they draw less than 13,900 fans to their home games. It's ludicrous. How can a Football School win a National Basketball Championship? Teams that draw more than 23,000 fans per home game should be winning the National Championship. Is it Coaching/Recruiting (same/same) or is it all that"sun" in Gainesville, FL during the winter basketball season. Oh yeah, there's a decent beach within afew hours drive for those basketball players with cars.

[Buddah]

PsychoCat wrote: The song is not funny it is disgusting :thumbdown
yea it is so disgusting and out there, that it is funny.. like laughing at a moment when you shouldn't really. i equate it with that.

[SunBaller]

Buddah wrote: PsychoCat wrote: The song is not funny it is disgusting :thumbdown
yea it is so disgusting and out there, that it is funny.. like laughing at a moment when you shouldn't really. i equate it with that.
I agree with both posters, but the real problem is that it's funny (and typical) to the other millions of fans of the other 325 Division I Basketball Programs. Who, by the way, also read CBS Sportsline.

[tiffincatfan]

that has got to be one of the dumbest songs that i have ever heard!! it makes no sense. he goes from shooting his wife and then back to bashing tubby. horrible!!

[surveyor]

Sigh..........the stereotype of the rabid, back'ards UK fan is alive and well thanks to this goober...................

Indiana fans are laughin' at me;
Cuz yer team's no good cain't beat Tennessee..........

It's safe to say they're not laughing at him because of that.......................:nada:

[SunBaller]

10. John Pelphrey (South Alabama) and Travis Ford (UMass): Eventually Tubby Smith is going to grow tired of Kentucky's rabid fan base and semi-retire or take an NBA job. Who knows, it might happen after this season, considering the Wildcat faithful isn't happy with the coach's underwhelming recruiting of late. Exhibit A is this song (http://www.soundclick.com/pro/view/01/default.cfm?bandid=550517&songid=4156138&content=s ong) written by OH Napier titled Final Four or Hit the Door (Please. You have to hear this. Follow the link. Thank me later).

Anyway, if Smith does indeed hit the door, two of UK's favorite sons -- Pelphrey and Ford -- could be among the candidates if they are coming off big years. Of course, they'd probably need Florida's Billy Donovan to reject the gig first. But we'll deal with that when the time comes.

All three, Travis, Pel, & Tubby have played for and/or were mentored by the same Great Basketball Coach. That has to be a positive thing for all three. However, Travis and Pel have really not proven anything significant as Division I Head Coaches. Tubby has only proven that if someone hands him a well-recruited, well-trainedand motivatedteam with experienced NCAA Tournamentplayers he won't drop the ball.

Billy Donovan played for and was mentored as an assistant coach by the same Great Basketball Coach and that playing and mentoring clearly shows in his coaching results. However, it's ludicrous to think that Billy Donovan would leave U of Florida where he's reached two (2) Final Fours and one (1) National Championship within six (6) years to coachfor a Conference rival. It has never been done and will never be done. The mere thought is absolutely ludicrous.

[XUKX]

SunBaller wrote: 10. John Pelphrey (South Alabama) and Travis Ford (UMass): Eventually Tubby Smith is going to grow tired of Kentucky's rabid fan base and semi-retire or take an NBA job. Who knows, it might happen after this season, considering the Wildcat faithful isn't happy with the coach's underwhelming recruiting of late. Exhibit A is this song (http://www.soundclick.com/pro/view/01/default.cfm?bandid=550517&songid=4156138&content=s ong) written by OH Napier titled Final Four or Hit the Door (Please. You have to hear this. Follow the link. Thank me later).

Anyway, if Smith does indeed hit the door, two of UK's favorite sons -- Pelphrey and Ford -- could be among the candidates if they are coming off big years. Of course, they'd probably need Florida's Billy Donovan to reject the gig first. But we'll deal with that when the time comes.

All three, Travis, Pel, & Tubby have played for and/or were mentored by the same Great Basketball Coach. That has to be a positive thing for all three. However, Travis and Pel have really not proven anything significant as Division I Head Coaches. Tubby has only proven that if someone hands him a well-recruited, well-trainedand motivatedteam with experienced NCAA Tournamentplayers he won't drop the ball.

Billy Donovan played for and was mentored as an assistant coach by the same Great Basketball Coach and that playing and mentoring clearly shows in his coaching results. However, it's ludicrous to think that Billy Donovan would leave U of Florida where he's reached two (2) Final Fours and one (1) National Championship within six (6) years to coachfor a Conference rival. It has never been done and will never be done. The mere thought is absolutely ludicrous.
Are you talking to yourself or that dead horse your beatin'?

[RCS]

Duke has won several NC and draws less than 10,000 fans, actually a lot less. As for why he would leave Creighton, $2,000,000 is a whole lot more than $800,000 and you havezero shot at a NC at Creighton where you have an excellent shot at UK. Every UK coach other than Sutton in the last 50 years has won a NC. I would say out of the top 25 coaches, 12-15 would come, and all but about 5 would listen. UK is a top 3 job in college basketball. You would be stupid to not consider it if asked. No mid major coach would ever turn down UK unless there were very, very strange circumstances.

[Buddah]

RCS wrote: Duke has won several NC and draws less than 10,000 fans, actually a lot less. As for why he would leave Creighton, $2,000,000 is a whole lot more than $800,000 and you havezero shot at a NC at Creighton where you have an excellent shot at UK. Every UK coach other than Sutton in the last 50 years has won a NC. I would say out of the top 25 coaches, 12-15 would come, and all but about 5 would listen. UK is a top 3 job in college basketball. You would be stupid to not consider it if asked. No mid major coach would ever turn down UK unless there were very, very strange circumstances.
i agree, though few did turn down iu, supposedly, unless he was never offered.. that struck me as strange.

[RCS]

While a little stange, IU is not UK. They are a top 10 job, not a top 3 job. Few may just be unwilling to leave the West Coast. It happens, but not many are like that. Also we have no idea what kind of salary they offered him.

[Buddah]

RCS wrote: While a little stange, IU is not UK. They are a top 10 job, not a top 3 job. Few may just be unwilling to leave the West Coast. It happens, but not many are like that. Also we have no idea what kind of salary they offered him.
at one time , i may have put iu in the top five, but one would think it would be a step up from my beloved zags, i guess he didn't think so....as far as salary, i am sure it would be more than what he is making at gonzaga.. who knows ? i agree with you, not many like that.

[BigBlueLuke]

You guys have to go check out his pics and stuff on his website. Classic. I recommend playing the song as you do. It really lets you know where he's coming from. lol :lol:

[audacious1]

blueheretic wrote:
10. John Pelphrey (South Alabama) and Travis Ford (UMass): Eventually Tubby Smith is going to grow tired of Kentucky's rabid fan base and semi-retire or take an NBA job. Who knows, it might happen after this season, considering the Wildcat faithful isn't happy with the coach's underwhelming recruiting of late. Exhibit A is this song (http://www.soundclick.com/pro/view/01/default.cfm?bandid=550517&songid=4156138&content=s ong) written by OH Napier titled Final Four or Hit the Door (Please. You have to hear this. Follow the link. Thank me later).

Anyway, if Smith does indeed hit the door, two of UK's favorite sons -- Pelphrey and Ford -- could be among the candidates if they are coming off big years. Of course, they'd probably need Florida's Billy Donovan to reject the gig first. But we'll deal with that when the time comes.


It's stuff like this that the rest of the country loves because it makes Kentucky (the state, its people, its sports teams, etc.) look bad.

[Mark Blueblood]

Thanks Napier - you've just found yet another way to embarrass the entire Commonwealth.

And, just when we think we are undeserving of the stereotypes......

[Will Lavender]

I really like Dana Altman.

[Will Lavender]

I really like Karl Hobbs, Gregg Marshall, and John Pelphrey, too.

My list if Tubby stepped downwould probably look like:

1. Izzo

2. Few

3. Wright

4. Pelphrey

5. Marshall

Not enough evidence to suggest Ford is ready, at least in my opinion.

[Spanish Moss]

[Buddah]

Will Lavender wrote: I really like Karl Hobbs, Gregg Marshall, and John Pelphrey, too.

My list if Tubby stepped downwould probably look like:

1. Izzo

2. Few

3. Wright

4. Pelphrey

5. Marshall

Not enough evidence to suggest Ford is ready, at least in my opinion.




Will, izzo is a little too old and the rest of them it suprised me.. where is donovan, romar, calapari,pearl, pitino ? what has marshall done to illict support. i know it is just a hypothetical list, i just respect your opinion on general basketball things and iw as just wondering where the reasoning for the names on the list came from.

[Buddah]

Spanish Moss wrote: SunBaller wrote: Buddah wrote: PsychoCat wrote: The song is not funny it is disgusting :thumbdown
yea it is so disgusting and out there, that it is funny.. like laughing at a moment when you shouldn't really. i equate it with that.
I agree with both posters, but the real problem is that it's funny (and typical) to the other millions of fans of the other 325 Division I Basketball Programs. Who, by the way, also read CBS Sportsline.
I think the song is hillarious and it is all in fun. I tell you one thing, it is getting tiresome having Georgia and Florida fans asking me, "what is wrong with Kentucky". As if they don't know. They know.

Tubby, the world is laughing at us and the only way we can stop them is by doing it on the court. Win some games we are not suppose to win and Oh Napier can turn his attention back to Mountain Rap music.

i agree spanish, i will change my pc answer :D , i don't really think it is a disgusting song, i found it very funny and it is definitely all in fun.:thumbupwinning cures so much..

[Grub]

I'll probably get shredded to pieces over this...but I do not want Travis Ford under any conditions. He seems like the kind of guy who woulddo anything to win. I fear he's an NCAA sanction waiting to happen.

[Will Lavender]

Buddah wrote: Will Lavender wrote: I really like Karl Hobbs, Gregg Marshall, and John Pelphrey, too.

My list if Tubby stepped downwould probably look like:

1. Izzo

2. Few

3. Wright

4. Pelphrey

5. Marshall

Not enough evidence to suggest Ford is ready, at least in my opinion.




Will, izzo is a little too old and the rest of them it suprised me.. where is donovan, romar, calapari,pearl, pitino ? what has marshall done to illict support. i know it is just a hypothetical list, i just respect your opinion on general basketball things and iw as just wondering where the reasoning for the names on the list came from.


Forgot about Donovan for some reason. Donovan would be #1, of course.

Pitino (traitorous blowhard,etc.) and Calipari (cheater) and Pearl (cheater) wouldn't be on any list of mine.

I do like Romar.

[Buddah]

Will Lavender wrote: Buddah wrote: Will Lavender wrote: I really like Karl Hobbs, Gregg Marshall, and John Pelphrey, too.

My list if Tubby stepped downwould probably look like:

1. Izzo

2. Few

3. Wright

4. Pelphrey

5. Marshall

Not enough evidence to suggest Ford is ready, at least in my opinion.




Will, izzo is a little too old and the rest of them it suprised me.. where is donovan, romar, calapari,pearl, pitino ? what has marshall done to illict support. i know it is just a hypothetical list, i just respect your opinion on general basketball things and iw as just wondering where the reasoning for the names on the list came from.


Forgot about Donovan for some reason. Donovan would be #1, of course.

Pitino (traitorous blowhard,etc.) and Calipari (cheater) and Pearl (cheater) wouldn't be on any list of mine.

I do like Romar.



Are you sure Will ? THERE HAS BEEN NO evidence that coach pearl cheated, at all.. NONE, ZIP>. taping a phone call isn't he himself cheating, he was reporting others. Same with coach calapri but with different circumstances, but pearl has never been a cheater, just a good coach, with a chip on his shoulder, who was alienated for a long time by the "coaching frat". he isn't a cheater though.... .he is also an outspoken evangelist for the 1,2,1,1 which is not a bad thing in the least.

[Will Lavender]

Buddah wrote: Will Lavender wrote: Buddah wrote: Will Lavender wrote: I really like Karl Hobbs, Gregg Marshall, and John Pelphrey, too.

My list if Tubby stepped downwould probably look like:

1. Izzo

2. Few

3. Wright

4. Pelphrey

5. Marshall

Not enough evidence to suggest Ford is ready, at least in my opinion.




Will, izzo is a little too old and the rest of them it suprised me.. where is donovan, romar, calapari,pearl, pitino ? what has marshall done to illict support. i know it is just a hypothetical list, i just respect your opinion on general basketball things and iw as just wondering where the reasoning for the names on the list came from.


Forgot about Donovan for some reason. Donovan would be #1, of course.

Pitino (traitorous blowhard,etc.) and Calipari (cheater) and Pearl (cheater) wouldn't be on any list of mine.

I do like Romar.



Are you sure Will ? THERE HAS BEEN NO evidence that coach pearl cheated, at all.. NONE, ZIP>. taping a phone call isn't he himself cheating, he was reporting others. Same with coach calapri but with different circumstances, but pearl has never been a cheater, just a good coach, with a chip on his shoulder, who was alienated for a long time by the "coaching frat". he isn't a cheater though.... .he is also an outspoken evangelist for the 1,2,1,1 which is not a bad thing in the least.




"Cheat" is the wrong word to use re: Pearl.

"Unethical" fits him better. And there has been documentation of that. As I've posted before, I heard Dick Vitale go on a five-minute rant against Pearl in the late-'90s. Heard it with my own ears. It happened. It's on the books.

(As is Pearl's and his wife's comments about how "redneck" Kentucky is, but that's another matter.)

[Buddah]

never said he was a good person just that i thought he was a hell of a basketball coach.He puts his foot in his mouth redneck comment pre taking the tn job, but i try to seperate the flawed from the saintly, as i was talking about in the football thread.. pearl didn't do anything that most probably havenlt thought of, he just went through with it... hell, eddie folger and mike montgermy infered that donovan was a cheater, same principle, just don't have the tape recorder, u know... dick vitale is a hack, so i don't put much credence into anything that he says....

[Will Lavender]

Buddah wrote: never said he was a good person just that i thought he was a hell of a basketball coach.He puts his foot in his mouth redneck comment pre taking the tn job, but i try to seperate the flawed from the saintly, as i was talking about in the football thread.. pearl didn't do anything that most probably havenlt thought of, he just went through with it... hell, eddie folger and mike montgermy infered that donovan was a cheater, same principle, just don't have the tape recorder, u know... dick vitale is a hack, so i don't put much credence into anything that he says....

I'm of the school that says you have to like the coach. Heshould bea decent person. Yes, he has to win, but I've always wanted a coach that I could relate to, who seems to be a genial, good human being. I'm not one of those "Win at all costs" fans. I'm just not wired like that.

And yeah, Montgomery did say Donovan was a cheater at one time. In fact, he was very adamant about it. Brett Bearup would know about this, because Bearup's name was associated with Donovan's through that mess. I personally had a discussion with Bearup about this once, and he denied any wrongdoing and stood up for Donovan inwhat I took to be agenuine way. That's about as close to the original source as you can get, and so I alwaysbelieved thatthe whole episodewas simply Montgomery's sour grapes.

[Buddah]

Will Lavender wrote: Buddah wrote: never said he was a good person just that i thought he was a hell of a basketball coach.He puts his foot in his mouth redneck comment pre taking the tn job, but i try to seperate the flawed from the saintly, as i was talking about in the football thread.. pearl didn't do anything that most probably havenlt thought of, he just went through with it... hell, eddie folger and mike montgermy infered that donovan was a cheater, same principle, just don't have the tape recorder, u know... dick vitale is a hack, so i don't put much credence into anything that he says....

I'm of the school that says you have to like the coach. Heshould bea decent person. Yes, he has to win, but I've always wanted a coach that I could relate to, who seems to be a genial, good human being. I'm not one of those "Win at all costs" fans. I'm just not wired like that.

And yeah, Montgomery did say Donovan was a cheater at one time. In fact, he was very adamant about it. Brett Bearup would know about this, because Bearup's name was associated with Donovan's through that mess. I personally had a discussion with Bearup about this once, and he denied any wrongdoing and stood up for Donovan inwhat I took to be agenuine way. That's about as close to the original source as you can get, and so I alwaysbelieved thatthe whole episodewas simply Montgomery's sour grapes.






well rupp wasn't the most liked, nor was Rick, but they won and they won alot. I think sometimes we want our cake and we want to plow into it and eat it too. go figure. i think sometimes you can have magic and get both, but i am much more concerned about winning, albeit in an ethical way, but a coach need not be my best friend to be my basketball coach. hell, i don't have to relate to him, probably won't since he is a multi millionare.that isn't a winning at any cost fan, that is just a fan that wants to maintain the status of the program he loves. i will say a coach can be a good person and that affords him/her alot more leeway even in spite of adversity and sub par performances.. billy curry comes to mind among others.

[Josh]

Buddah wrote: there is no way, that ford or pel will coach here if tubby leaves in the next one or two years... they simply are not ready for this job...
I agree. It would be a mistake to bring either of these two here right now. They are not established well enough yet to come to a program like Kentucky.

[Chunks06]

Will Lavender wrote: I really like Karl Hobbs, Gregg Marshall, and John Pelphrey, too.

My list if Tubby stepped downwould probably look like:

1. Izzo

2. Few

3. Wright

4. Pelphrey

5. Marshall

Not enough evidence to suggest Ford is ready, at least in my opinion.

Just curious as to why you feel Pelphrey is ready but not Ford?? IMO I dont think either have proven themselvves ready but I hope one of them does.

[Will Lavender]

Chunks06 wrote: Will Lavender wrote: I really like Karl Hobbs, Gregg Marshall, and John Pelphrey, too.

My list if Tubby stepped downwould probably look like:

1. Izzo

2. Few

3. Wright

4. Pelphrey

5. Marshall

Not enough evidence to suggest Ford is ready, at least in my opinion.

Just curious as to why you feel Pelphrey is ready but not Ford?? IMO I dont think either have proven themselvves ready but I hope one of them does.
Pelphrey has been around longer. He had a history of brilliant recruiting under Billy Donovan, and he's alreadyproven himself at a bigger school than Eastern Kentucky University.

[Will Lavender]

Buddah wrote: Will Lavender wrote: Buddah wrote: never said he was a good person just that i thought he was a hell of a basketball coach.He puts his foot in his mouth redneck comment pre taking the tn job, but i try to seperate the flawed from the saintly, as i was talking about in the football thread.. pearl didn't do anything that most probably havenlt thought of, he just went through with it... hell, eddie folger and mike montgermy infered that donovan was a cheater, same principle, just don't have the tape recorder, u know... dick vitale is a hack, so i don't put much credence into anything that he says....

I'm of the school that says you have to like the coach. Heshould bea decent person. Yes, he has to win, but I've always wanted a coach that I could relate to, who seems to be a genial, good human being. I'm not one of those "Win at all costs" fans. I'm just not wired like that.

And yeah, Montgomery did say Donovan was a cheater at one time. In fact, he was very adamant about it. Brett Bearup would know about this, because Bearup's name was associated with Donovan's through that mess. I personally had a discussion with Bearup about this once, and he denied any wrongdoing and stood up for Donovan inwhat I took to be agenuine way. That's about as close to the original source as you can get, and so I alwaysbelieved thatthe whole episodewas simply Montgomery's sour grapes.






well rupp wasn't the most liked, nor was Rick, but they won and they won alot. I think sometimes we want our cake and we want to plow into it and eat it too. go figure. i think sometimes you can have magic and get both, but i am much more concerned about winning, albeit in an ethical way, but a coach need not be my best friend to be my basketball coach. hell, i don't have to relate to him, probably won't since he is a multi millionare.that isn't a winning at any cost fan, that is just a fan that wants to maintain the status of the program he loves. i will say a coach can be a good person and that affords him/her alot more leeway even in spite of adversity and sub par performances.. billy curry comes to mind among others.

I always liked Rick Pitino. He's been cast as an arrogant SOB by UK fans,but Idon't see it. To me, he comes off as a pretty nice guy.

He's confident, yeah, but so is everybody in big-time athletics.

[CatsSaintsFan]

Buddah, did you write that song? ;)

[DCWildcat]

The top of my list would be Matta and Barnes, in that order.

I really think Matta could end up being one of the greats. The things he did at Xavier and the way he's turned OSU around are remarkable.

Izzo would be awesome, but I don't think we could get him. Donovan would be nice as well.

[bluegrassking]

I have no particular order but

Calipari

Ford

Donovan

Pelphrey

Matta

Romar

I want someone who burns to win, someone who might fit the "Man possesed" article that was written about Traitor Rick before the 96 Championship.

I could care less if the coach is nice and likeable seems to be a negative in some sense.

Run a clean program and win. That's all. I've got buddies, a dad, and family, a coach needs to manage a program and if he rubs some the wrong way fine.

It seems the best two coaches in our history were both *****s, the job may require it.

[blueheretic]

Tre Pryor wrote: blueheretic wrote:
10. John Pelphrey (South Alabama) and Travis Ford (UMass): Eventually Tubby Smith is going to grow tired of Kentucky's rabid fan base and semi-retire or take an NBA job. Who knows, it might happen after this season, considering the Wildcat faithful isn't happy with the coach's underwhelming recruiting of late. Exhibit A is this song (http://www.soundclick.com/pro/view/01/default.cfm?bandid=550517&songid=4156138&content=s ong) written by OH Napier titled Final Four or Hit the Door (Please. You have to hear this. Follow the link. Thank me later).

Anyway, if Smith does indeed hit the door, two of UK's favorite sons -- Pelphrey and Ford -- could be among the candidates if they are coming off big years. Of course, they'd probably need Florida's Billy Donovan to reject the gig first. But we'll deal with that when the time comes.


It's stuff like this that the rest of the country loves because it makes Kentucky (the state, its people, its sports teams, etc.) look bad.
pls stop the melodrama!

[blueheretic]

Mark Blueblood wrote: Thanks Napier - you've just found yet another way to embarrass the entire Commonwealth.

And, just when we think we are undeserving of the stereotypes......


Again, pls stop the melodrama!

[delkfor3]

Grub wrote: I'll probably get shredded to pieces over this...but I do not want Travis Ford under any conditions. He seems like the kind of guy who woulddo anything to win. I fear he's an NCAA sanction waiting to happen.
I respect your opinion for the most part, but I think your post above is a little harsh. What has Travis Ford done to make you think he's an "NCAA sanction waiting to happen"? Not trying to shred you, just curious.:question:shrug:

[Littlemeyer]

delkfor3 wrote: Grub wrote: I'll probably get shredded to pieces over this...but I do not want Travis Ford under any conditions. He seems like the kind of guy who woulddo anything to win. I fear he's an NCAA sanction waiting to happen.
I respect your opinion for the most part, but I think your post above is a little harsh. What has Travis Ford done to make you think he's an "NCAA sanction waiting to happen"? Not trying to shred you, just curious.:question:shrug:
Not Grub here, but he's shown in the past that he's not above cheating if winning is on the line. Remember the freethrow-gate scandal of 1994? Now, I'm sure he's grown up a lot since then, matured and what not, but still...the evidence of cheating is there.

[Grub]

delkfor3 wrote: Grub wrote: I'll probably get shredded to pieces over this...but I do not want Travis Ford under any conditions. He seems like the kind of guy who woulddo anything to win. I fear he's an NCAA sanction waiting to happen.
I respect your opinion for the most part, but I think your post above is a little harsh. What has Travis Ford done to make you think he's an "NCAA sanction waiting to happen"? Not trying to shred you, just curious.:question:shrug:
As Littlemeyer posted above, I rememberthe free throw thing. I believe Campbellsville College got investigated for some athletic/academic improprietiesafter he left there to go to EKU. I believe his dadEddie got in some trouble several years ago as an AAU coach. I like Travis, but I fear his competitive fire burns a bit too brightly.

[Buddah]

Grub wrote: delkfor3 wrote: Grub wrote: I'll probably get shredded to pieces over this...but I do not want Travis Ford under any conditions. He seems like the kind of guy who woulddo anything to win. I fear he's an NCAA sanction waiting to happen.
I respect your opinion for the most part, but I think your post above is a little harsh. What has Travis Ford done to make you think he's an "NCAA sanction waiting to happen"? Not trying to shred you, just curious.:question:shrug:
As Littlemeyer posted above, I rememberthe free throw thing. I believe Campbellsville College got investigated for some athletic/academic improprietiesafter he left there to go to EKU. I believe his dadEddie got in some trouble several years ago as an AAU coach. I like Travis, but I fear his competitive fire burns a bit too brightly.
i have to agree with others, UK can not afford even the slightest inclination of cheating or anything of that sort.... that is one thing i will give tubby major props for, he goes by the book, on everything.. boy does he go by the book.but if a non cheating with the perception of being dirty like bruce pearl, won't be considered for this job, then travis needs to fall in that same catergory, even though both would be good coach, pearl especially and both run the right type of offense.. who knows ? besides his cheating, travis is a major *****, which again may not be a bad thing.

[Littlemeyer]

Buddah wrote: besides his cheating, travis is a major *****, which again may not be a bad thing.

I have no first-hand knowledge of that, but my brother-in-law, who played football at Campbellsville while Ford was coaching basketball there, agrees with you. He, and others, had several run-ins with him. He has some good stories...

BTW, just finished season one of House...I'm addicted. What a great show! I'll be getting season two DVD's as soon as I can...:thumbup

[Buddah]

Littlemeyer wrote: Buddah wrote: besides his cheating, travis is a major *****, which again may not be a bad thing.

I have no first-hand knowledge of that, but my brother-in-law, who played football at Campbellsville while Ford was coaching basketball there, agrees with you. He, and others, had several run-ins with him. He has some good stories...

BTW, just finished season one of House...I'm addicted. What a great show! I'll be getting season two DVD's as soon as I can...:thumbup

good boy, i told my friend.. it is brillant isn;t it... it is amazing.. get the second season, if you want to REALLY have your jaw drop... brillant show, definitely... glad you liked it. Dr. House is really modern man, what a GREAT character, i love him

[delkfor3]

Grub wrote: delkfor3 wrote: Grub wrote: I'll probably get shredded to pieces over this...but I do not want Travis Ford under any conditions. He seems like the kind of guy who woulddo anything to win. I fear he's an NCAA sanction waiting to happen.
I respect your opinion for the most part, but I think your post above is a little harsh. What has Travis Ford done to make you think he's an "NCAA sanction waiting to happen"? Not trying to shred you, just curious.:question:shrug:
As Littlemeyer posted above, I rememberthe free throw thing. I believe Campbellsville College got investigated for some athletic/academic improprietiesafter he left there to go to EKU. I believe his dadEddie got in some trouble several years ago as an AAU coach. I like Travis, but I fear his competitive fire burns a bit too brightly.
I had forgotten the freethrow thing and the other stuff, I had no clue about.:blush:

[DCWildcat]

I don't think there's ANY chance Ford winds up at UK in the near future. He's only coached D1 basketball for 5 years.

[Houstoncat]

Buddah wrote: RCS wrote: Duke has won several NC and draws less than 10,000 fans, actually a lot less. As for why he would leave Creighton, $2,000,000 is a whole lot more than $800,000 and you havezero shot at a NC at Creighton where you have an excellent shot at UK. Every UK coach other than Sutton in the last 50 years has won a NC. I would say out of the top 25 coaches, 12-15 would come, and all but about 5 would listen. UK is a top 3 job in college basketball. You would be stupid to not consider it if asked. No mid major coach would ever turn down UK unless there were very, very strange circumstances.
i agree, though few did turn down iu, supposedly, unless he was never offered.. that struck me as strange.
Cameron indoor only seats about eight thousand or so....school's choice and still very student oriented.

[bigsky]

The Squid's my first choice.

[Stucat]

Billy Donovan would never accept the Kentucky job even if it were offered. Donovan does not have the ability to handle UK's fans. That takes someone with the ego of a Rick Pitino. Anyway Donovan has it made in Gainsville, Florida.

[HC]

If you think Pitino is the biggest***** you've ever met, you've never met Travis Ford!