View Full Version : What is wrong in Maso County???
CowtownCat
09-20-2006, 11:46 AM
Are they crazy? Making Bruce Pearl a Kentucky Colonel ? Waving orange pompons. They should loose their Big Blue citizenship.
MercerTitan
09-20-2006, 12:06 PM
Further proof of my theory that ANYBODY can be a Ky Colonel.
As much as I love my son, I wouldn't wear UT orange if he were starring there. :ggrin:
kipper265
09-20-2006, 12:12 PM
MercerTitan wrote: Further proof of my theory that ANYBODY can be a Ky Colonel.
As much as I love my son, I wouldn't wear UT orange if he were starring there. :ggrin:
I wouldn't wear UT orange if my dad was Phil Fulmer, my mom was Pat Summit and my son was Allan Houston. :ggrin:
...so yeah, I agree with ya there.
MercerTitan
09-20-2006, 12:17 PM
kipper265 wrote: MercerTitan wrote: Further proof of my theory that ANYBODY can be a Ky Colonel.
As much as I love my son, I wouldn't wear UT orange if he were starring there. :ggrin:
I wouldn't wear UT orange if my dad was Phil Fulmer, my mom was Pat Summit and my son was Allan Houston. :ggrin:
...so yeah, I agree with ya there.
:thumbupOnly way they get me into that color would be if I went to prison. That scares me enough to keep me on the "straight and narrow".
bigbluelife
09-20-2006, 01:34 PM
Thank you11111 i have been wondering if anyone else saw a problem here other than myself. First of all- pearl did not recruit Chris (signed by Buzz Peterson) and are they trying to make themselves a laughing stock?
Will Lavender
09-20-2006, 01:39 PM
Why don't they just make Lofton a colonel? Seems to make a lot more sense.
Heck, Pearl's not out there shooting three pointers for the boy.
bigbluelife
09-20-2006, 01:46 PM
Just hope espn doesn't get a hold of this- canjust imagine how they would make this look- a real laughing stock.
trublue4life
09-20-2006, 03:22 PM
I wonder what Mason County's own Deron Feldhaus thinks about this. Have they forgotten their very own "Unforgettable?"Man, they act like Lofton is the only KY kidever that didnot get a scholarship to UK and like he's the only kid out of Mason County to ever go to college. I have no problem at all with the community loving one of their own and supporting him no matter where he is but for "alleged" Big Blue fansto suddenly wear Tennessee orange just doesn't fly.
kevinlw1974
09-20-2006, 03:28 PM
bigbluelife wrote: Thank you11111 i have been wondering if anyone else saw a problem here other than myself. First of all- pearl did not recruit Chris (signed by Buzz Peterson) and are they trying to make themselves a laughing stock?
That is exactly my thought as well. I bet Bruce 'Big Perm' Pearl didn't even look at the kid. This is just terrible.
catfando
09-20-2006, 03:45 PM
If I were the Lofton family and Mason County, I'd be stuffing it in UK's face too. This kid wanted to come to UK. But oh no, Tubby didn't feel he was good enough. Typical of OTS, he can't recognize talent!!!
delkfor3
09-20-2006, 03:52 PM
Do we have any WCN members that live in Mason County? If so, they need togoaround the county and do their civic duty. :shrug:
bigbluelife
09-20-2006, 03:59 PM
catfando wrote: If I were the Lofton family and Mason County, I'd be stuffing it in UK's face too. This kid wanted to come to UK. But oh no, Tubby didn't feel he was good enough. Typical of OTS, he can't recognize talent!!!
Bypassing your agenda post for a second- why wasn't something like this done in the past two years- Chris after all will be a junior and he has admitted that he and UK are both better off now. I also wonder if any of the Mason County crowd has ever read any of the comments attributed to both Pearl and his wife while they were in Evansville. I remember one clearly along the lines when asked if ever recruited the Owensboro area- he OR she supposedly said there's way to many Kentucky rednecks in that town. Just a thought
ImForKy
09-20-2006, 04:54 PM
catfando wrote: If I were the Lofton family and Mason County, I'd be stuffing it in UK's face too. This kid wanted to come to UK. But oh no, Tubby didn't feel he was good enough. Typical of OTS, he can't recognize talent!!!
IF Tubby had recruited the kid and IF he hadcome to UK, he would be sitting on the bench because he would not have the freedom to do what he does at UT. Tubby does not allow his players the freedom to do ANYTHING including whaterver the kid did that made Tubby recruit him in the first place. Everything is scripted by Tubby and anyone who deviates from it sits on the bench! That's just one reason that players who have the ability to "take over a game" don't sign with UK.
As far as Mason County is concerned, how about Tennessee just anexing it and everyone will be happy!!:shrug:
BowlingGreenUKGrad
09-20-2006, 04:57 PM
I don't have a problem with it. I can understand why they feel the way they do. Not sure if I would react the same way...but I at least see where they're coming from.
Will Lavender
09-20-2006, 05:44 PM
ImForKy wrote: catfando wrote: If I were the Lofton family and Mason County, I'd be stuffing it in UK's face too. This kid wanted to come to UK. But oh no, Tubby didn't feel he was good enough. Typical of OTS, he can't recognize talent!!!
IF Tubby had recruited the kid and IF he hadcome to UK, he would be sitting on the bench because he would not have the freedom to do what he does at UT. Tubby does not allow his players the freedom to do ANYTHING including whaterver the kid did that made Tubby recruit him in the first place. Everything is scripted by Tubby and anyone who deviates from it sits on the bench! That's just one reason that players who have the ability to "take over a game" don't sign with UK.
As far as Mason County is concerned, how about Tennessee just anexing it and everyone will be happy!!:shrug:
UK's record against UT while Lofton has played for the Vols? 4-1.
This argument sounds similar to one I always heard about Patrick Sparks. I saw a lot of posters say that if Sparks had come to UK rather than WKU, he'd be sitting on Tubby's bench because Tubby doesn't play shooters. (I've even see people claim Tubby won'tplay white people.)
Well, who was it that was shutting down Chris Lofton in Knoxville in UK's biggest game of the year last season?
Patrick Sparks, who started nearly every game of his career at UK.
Silly argument all the way around.
Tubby made a mistake with Lofton, and I think everyone -- Lofton, Tubby, our entire '04 class -- is better off for it. He'd be a great player anywhere he went, but he's especially good in an offense and system that has a lot of freedom.
Kentucky isn't the only school that wouldn't offer him the kind of freedom Pearl does. Hell, there weren't many schools even recruiting him and the only reason he ended up at UT was because another player didn't take his scholarship.
DBCAT
09-20-2006, 06:07 PM
Tubby was not the only coach that did not go after Lofton. No coach in their right mind would have gone after him at the time knowing that they had Rondo, Crawford, and Bradley coming in, and with Sparks transfering in. This reply was not meant to praise Tubby, but to state the obvious. At the time Lofton was not viewed as a hot commodity. We had 2 McD's ALL-American guards coming in and one that was not far from it, in Bradley. Tubby himself has even said in the last year when asked about Lofton that in hindsight he should have taken him. At the time though, he would have looked even more foolish by taking him and passing on Rondo, Crawford, or Bradley. And if he can't recognize talent then he would not have gotten 3 McDonalds All Americans that year. Tubby does recognize talent. Look at all of these highly rated players that Tubby is after every year. For whatever reason some of them decide not to come to UK. Some of them do. Some people just dont understand that there are other Universities in the country and that UK can not get every player that they go after. Duke, North Carolina and all of these other top programs don't get every player that they go after either. If you think they do then you are just fooling yourself.
catfando wrote:
If I were the Lofton family and Mason County, I'd be stuffing it in UK's face too. This kid wanted to come to UK. But oh no, Tubby didn't feel he was good enough. Typical of OTS, he can't recognize talent!!!
bleedbluelady
09-20-2006, 06:36 PM
catfando wrote: If I were the Lofton family and Mason County, I'd be stuffing it in UK's face too. This kid wanted to come to UK. But oh no, Tubby didn't feel he was good enough. Typical of OTS, he can't recognize talent!!!
Maybe Lofton wanted to come to UK, but everything I have read has him quoted as saying he would NOT have come to UK with all the other guards we had.
If I'm a UK fan, no matter what county I'm from, I'm not stuffing anything in "UK's face". :thumbdown:X
graham51
09-20-2006, 07:04 PM
Seeing so many,people get bent out of shape over something as ridiculous as Making Pearl a Ky. Colonel is absolutely ludicrous.
Somehwhere in the house I have one of those things and haven't seen it in years.
Years ago a stripper in Northern Ky. was made a Colonel and I don't think it caused this much outcry.
CHRVDM
09-20-2006, 07:35 PM
I don't have much time to type this (packing for Gainesville:thumbup), but this thing is out of control. Mason folks love lofton because he is such a great kid (and can shoot). In this day and age when you get a kid of this quality and you live in a small town and everybody knows him personally, they support him. Pearl was asked 7-8 mos ago to speak in Maysville and it happened to fall after Darius Miller blew up this summer. :shrug::shrug: hmmmm.......
Some Mason fans are now UT fans, but most want C-Lo to score 30 and UK win in those matchups.To bash our state rep, our town and our citizens and my friends is off base, and because you bashed my home town, I'm gonna go to the swamp and skin a gator or two.
BTW- I didn't go hear Pearlspeak.:tongue:tongue:tongue:tongue:tongue:ton gue:tongue:tongue
Lighten up!!!!!!!
Spanish Moss
09-20-2006, 07:36 PM
graham51 wrote: Seeing so many,people get bent out of shape over something as ridiculous as Making Pearl a Ky. Colonel is absolutely ludicrous.
Somehwhere in the house I have one of those things and haven't seen it in years.
Years ago a stripper in Northern Ky. was made a Colonel and I don't think it caused this much outcry.
If it makes you all feel any better, I am a Kentucky Colonel and I didn't even have to take off my clothes. Every year I get a catolog to order stuff from, an invitation to a BBQ and a request for money.
It is not one of my most cherished awards but the signature of Bert Combs is probably worth something today.
wildcatcrazy
09-20-2006, 08:49 PM
For the record, I am from Mason County and am a huge Chris Lofton fan.
That said, I did not attend the "event" and do not at all understand those that did. I root for Chris--and hope UT gets beat more often than not. I see no problem with those co-existing.
I have no clue what the attendance was but I suspect it has bee "oversold" a bit. I do not understand the people that attended the event to "support Chris". Chris was not there and this is the University of Tennessee---and I can't shake the opinon the Pearl is a bit shaky for some reason.
In any event, without divulging "sources" as if I have one, this will have no affect on the recruiting of Darius Miller. I can assure you that Darius did not attend the event.
I do not understand the connection for most of these folks. I am a UK fan and always will be. I am a Chris Lofton fan---and always will be. Those two are not connected in any ay.
I hope Chris scores 40 against us and we win by 40.
largebluej
09-20-2006, 09:15 PM
Bringing a slightly different angle to this discussion, how in the world can the LHL justify giving such a big push to this event? I could see it being a big story for the Maysville paper, but come on, this relatively insignificant eventdeserved at best a side-bar column in the Lexington paper. That the LHL gave itprominent top-of-the-sports-page coverage, featuring a heavy dose of"man, look at all the support UT is getting here in the middle of Big Blue country" type of quotes and comments, is further evidence of the two overriding principles governing that paper's sports coverage, those being: (1) never pass up an opportunity tosensationalize, trump up, overreact to orinvent so-called "stories" that have the possibility of embarassing University of Kentucky athletics, and (2) principle #1 is the only thing that matters around here. For goodness sakes, they sent their main UK BB beat writer, the despicable Jerry Tipton, and a photographer to cover this nothing story. They even previewed the visit by Pearl a few days earlier, in Tipton's regular Sunday column as I remember. Tipton is vermin. Remember, this is the same guy who a couple of years ago wrote that Kelenna Azuibuke's most significant personal characteristic was the criminal actions of his father. In a perfect world Tipton and Rick Bozich would be marooned on a desert island alone together. The effect of their combined loathesomeness on each other would be delightful.
trublue4life
09-20-2006, 09:35 PM
wildcatcrazy wrote: For the record, I am from Mason County and am a huge Chris Lofton fan.
That said, I did not attend the "event" and do not at all understand those that did. I root for Chris--and hope UT gets beat more often than not. I see no problem with those co-existing.
I have no clue what the attendance was but I suspect it has bee "oversold" a bit. I do not understand the people that attended the event to "support Chris". Chris was not there and this is the University of Tennessee---and I can't shake the opinon the Pearl is a bit shaky for some reason.
In any event, without divulging "sources" as if I have one, this will have no affect on the recruiting of Darius Miller. I can assure you that Darius did not attend the event.
I do not understand the connection for most of these folks. I am a UK fan and always will be. I am a Chris Lofton fan---and always will be. Those two are not connected in any ay.
I hope Chris scores 40 against us and we win by 40.
Your's is the healthy perspecitve I mentioned in my earlier post. I begrudge no one from Mason County cheering for Chris to be an All-American. I cannot understand switching allegiances from the Big Blue to the Big Orange no matter who plays there. Thanks for posting what I would guess the majority of Mason County UK fans would say.
SunBaller
09-20-2006, 10:41 PM
Spanish Moss wrote: graham51 wrote: Seeing so many,people get bent out of shape over something as ridiculous as Making Pearl a Ky. Colonel is absolutely ludicrous.
Somehwhere in the house I have one of those things and haven't seen it in years.
Years ago a stripper in Northern Ky. was made a Colonel and I don't think it caused this much outcry.
If it makes you all feel any better, I am a Kentucky Colonel and I didn't even have to take off my clothes. Every year I get a catolog to order stuff from, an invitation to a BBQ and a request for money.
It is not one of my most cherished awards but the signature of Bert Combs is probably worth something today.
:thumbup:thumbup:thumbup:thumbup:thumbup:thumbup:t humbup
GoBigBlue1998
09-21-2006, 08:14 AM
Lofton's not at UK nor is he coming to UK - GET OVER IT!!!
cumberlandredskin
09-21-2006, 08:36 AM
How do become a Kentucky Colonel? I have always heard of this but never newhow to be one. Iwas born and raised in Kentucky and would like to be one. I figure if Bruce Pearl can be one just about anyone could. Personally it doesn't bother me that he was given this honor. But the people in Mason County have to know they are doing nothing but helping his recruiting by giving him this publicity. And that is the only reason Pearl would be remotely interested in being a Kentucky Colonel.
Will Lavender
09-21-2006, 08:50 AM
cumberlandredskin wrote: I figure if Bruce Pearl can be one just about anyone could.
It's even more shameful considering how Pearl and his wife cracked on the entire state of Kentucky when Pearl was at Southern Indiana.
Littlemeyer
09-21-2006, 09:18 AM
Will Lavender wrote: It's even more shameful considering how Pearl and his wife cracked on the entire state of Kentucky when Pearl was at Southern Indiana.
:thumbup That's exactly the thought I had when reading this thread. If I recall, didn't he basically refer to us all as a bunch of racist rednecks?
cumberlandredskin
09-21-2006, 09:19 AM
Littlemeyer wrote: Will Lavender wrote: It's even more shameful considering how Pearl and his wife cracked on the entire state of Kentucky when Pearl was at Southern Indiana.
:thumbup That's exactly the thought I had when reading this thread. If I recall, didn't he basically refer to us all as a bunch of racist rednecks?
I had forgot about that. IIRC it was his wife that made the remarks.
Will Lavender
09-21-2006, 09:24 AM
cumberlandredskin wrote: Littlemeyer wrote: Will Lavender wrote: It's even more shameful considering how Pearl and his wife cracked on the entire state of Kentucky when Pearl was at Southern Indiana.
:thumbup That's exactly the thought I had when reading this thread. If I recall, didn't he basically refer to us all as a bunch of racist rednecks?
I had forgot about that. IIRC it was his wife that made the remarks.
I believe Pearl threw a comment in there somewhere.
But yeah, the wife said something to the effect that Indiana was "a little too close to Kentucky, a little too redneck" for her taste.
Littlemeyer
09-21-2006, 09:34 AM
Ain't Google grand?
Link (http://www.milwaukeemagazine.com/122004/bruce_pearl.asp) (its near the end of the story)
And so it was that the Jewish coach’s road to redemption would begin in Evansville, Indiana, on the banks of the Ohio River, where scarcely a synagogue could be found.
“It was South,” says Pearl. “Sh**, it was a little too close to Kentucky.”
“It was way too close to Kentucky,” says Kim. “I didn’t care for it. It was a little too red neck. Very red neck.… My kids were the only Jews in their school. So when we had Jewish holidays, they had to go to school because school wasn’t closed.”
Will Lavender
09-21-2006, 11:08 AM
Littlemeyer wrote: Ain't Google grand?
Link (http://www.milwaukeemagazine.com/122004/bruce_pearl.asp) (its near the end of the story)
And so it was that the Jewish coach’s road to redemption would begin in Evansville, Indiana, on the banks of the Ohio River, where scarcely a synagogue could be found.
“It was South,” says Pearl. “Sh**, it was a little too close to Kentucky.”
“It was way too close to Kentucky,” says Kim. “I didn’t care for it. It was a little too red neck. Very red neck.… My kids were the only Jews in their school. So when we had Jewish holidays, they had to go to school because school wasn’t closed.”
Ah, the Great Colonel. :?:thumbdown
kevinlw1974
09-21-2006, 12:03 PM
I wonder how Big Perm's wife likes it even further down here in the south here in Knoxville? There are a lot of us rednecks here.
cumberlandredskin
09-21-2006, 01:58 PM
I looked up on how you can become a Kentucky Colonel. It looks like the governor has the final authority on giving this honor out. I took the below from http://www.kycolonels.org.
The Honorable Order of Kentucky Colonels does not appoint Kentucky Colonels. The sitting Governor of the Commonwealth can only do that.
Only the Governor knows the reason for bestowing the honor of a Colonel's Commission on any particular individual. One Governor, in an address to the Honorable Order, said "The name Kentucky Colonel has become synonymous with strength of character, leadership and dedication to the welfare of others. Just as Isaac Shelby declared his trusted militia members to be his Kentucky Colonels, I see in you those things that place others above self".
To obtain a Kentucky Colonel Commission, an applicant must be recommended by an individual who holds a Colonel Commission. The applicant must also be 18 years old. Further information can be obtained by contacting the Governor's Office in Frankfort. The address is Attention: Lora Quire, Room 11, Governor's Office, State Capital, Frankfort, KY 40601.
The Honorable Order of Kentucky Colonels is an independent, non-profit corporation with the purpose of aiding and promoting the Commonwealth and its citizens. Membership is open to anyone who has been commissioned as a Kentucky Colonel. We hope everyone will consider himself or herself a friend of the Honorable Order of Kentucky Colonels.
delkfor3
09-21-2006, 04:13 PM
Littlemeyer wrote: Ain't Google grand?
Link (http://www.milwaukeemagazine.com/122004/bruce_pearl.asp) (its near the end of the story)
And so it was that the Jewish coach’s road to redemption would begin in Evansville, Indiana, on the banks of the Ohio River, where scarcely a synagogue could be found.
“It was South,” says Pearl. “Sh**, it was a little too close to Kentucky.”
“It was way too close to Kentucky,” says Kim. “I didn’t care for it. It was a little too red neck. Very red neck.… My kids were the only Jews in their school. So when we had Jewish holidays, they had to go to school because school wasn’t closed.”
I almost feel sorry for Brucey, because when the Vols come to Rupp this season, they'll boo Brucey out of the building. It'll make the reaction that Pitino got his first year at UofL when he returned to Rupp look like a standing ovation. The Pearls are a couple of jackasses.:thumbdown
delkfor3
09-21-2006, 04:17 PM
cumberlandredskin wrote: I figure if Bruce Pearl can be one just about anyone could.
Kinda makes the "honor" seem more like a Scarlet Letter, then an honor.:ggrin:
Gunsmoke
09-21-2006, 05:24 PM
Obviously Ernie and the dumba$$ legislator from Mason County who nominated pearl will do anything to get votes. I guess this makes ole Brucie a colonel in the redneck brigade now. Those people in Mason County wearing uT orange ki$$ing his sorry tail deserve to be lead by colonel redneck of knoxville.
audacious1
09-21-2006, 08:23 PM
catfando wrote: If I were the Lofton family and Mason County, I'd be stuffing it in UK's face too. This kid wanted to come to UK. But oh no, Tubby didn't feel he was good enough. Typical of OTS, he can't recognize talent!!!
Kentucky already had Rondo and Bradley in the mix, who were both higher ranked kids coming out of HS. So it wasn't that Tubby didn't think Lofton was good, it was that he already had strong players at his position. This isn't a "slam" on Lofton that so many make it out to be.
BTW, Peterson recruited Lofton, not Pearl so if anyone deserves the "honor" it's him. Pearl has publically stated his dislike for the "rednecks" in Kentucky.
JL Blue has an excellent write up here:
http://aseaofblue.com/story/2006/9/20/205213/051
wildcatcrazy
09-21-2006, 08:47 PM
TRe,
Very fair article IMO.
As indicated, I live in Mason County and frankly find those that are doing the name calling a bit childish and, hopefully, atypical of UK fans--although I am not so sure some times.
I believe the entire event was unnecessary and over the top. That said, as far as I know, Chris was not in attendance and I'm like most UK fans in Maysville--I am a LOFTON fan-not a UT fan. I hope Chris scores 40 against us and we win by forty.
All that said, some of you guys need to lighten up on the name calling of the folks in Mason County. We've provided Deron Feldhaus and Ronnie Lyons to UK over the years and hopefully will soon deliver Darius Miller. I seriously doubt the Pearl visit will have any affect on Darius' decision and he is way to smart a young man to let posts on a message board affect his decision--thank goodness for that!
SCBlu
09-25-2006, 06:54 PM
CowtownCat wrote: Are they crazy? Making Bruce Pearl a Kentucky Colonel ? Waving orange pompons. They should loose their Big Blue citizenship.
Any way to annex Mason County into Tenn?
Houstoncat
09-27-2006, 01:03 PM
Support the kid, hope he does well and stays healthy. But to show orange and white, and make Pearl a Kentucky Colonel...definitely not cool Mason County.
wildcatcrazy
09-27-2006, 01:22 PM
As if the entire county agree's and attended?
Spanish Moss
09-27-2006, 05:00 PM
wildcatcrazy wrote: As if the entire county agree's and attended?
Very good point. In no way do I blame "Mason County" for this. What we have is a coach at Tennessee who is outworking his competition. Our staff has to out work the competition or we will find slipage in other areas of the state.
In times past UK did not have to worry about areas inside the Kentucky border but that has changed. This is a new day and you have to promote your program. In other words the staff has to get off their butts and go to work.
Don't blame Mason County, give them a reason to stick with the Big Blue by showing them a product they can relate to and want to cheer for.
Will Lavender
09-27-2006, 05:42 PM
Spanish Moss wrote: wildcatcrazy wrote: As if the entire county agree's and attended?
Very good point. In no way do I blame "Mason County" for this. What we have is a coach at Tennessee who is outworking his competition. Our staff has to out work the competition or we will find slipage in other areas of the state.
In times past UK did not have to worry about areas inside the Kentucky border but that has changed. This is a new day and you have to promote your program. In other words the staff has to get off their butts and go to work.
Don't blame Mason County, give them a reason to stick with the Big Blue by showing them a product they can relate to and want to cheer for.
I don't think Pearl has shown that he's "outworking" our staff.
Tubby was 1-1 against him last year, and beat the Vols in one of the most important games in the history of their program -- the gimmick "white-out" event for ESPN on senior night.
Kentucky is 4-1 against the Vols with Chris Lofton playing, so it's not like Lofton has single-handedly slain the Cats or anything like that.
Also, Tubby Smith's team went further than Bruce Pearl's team last year in the SEC Tournament, and they went just as far in the NCAA Tournament.
We can clearly say that Kentucky is not where it needs to be in terms of our performance. No question. But I'm not sure how Pearl is outworking Tubby. It's not happening on the court. Not yet, anyway.
bleedbluelady
09-27-2006, 06:30 PM
Pearl has outworked Tubby in at least one area...using the media to promote his program.
Spanish Moss
09-27-2006, 06:49 PM
Will Lavender wrote: Spanish Moss wrote: wildcatcrazy wrote: As if the entire county agree's and attended?
Very good point. In no way do I blame "Mason County" for this. What we have is a coach at Tennessee who is outworking his competition. Our staff has to out work the competition or we will find slipage in other areas of the state.
In times past UK did not have to worry about areas inside the Kentucky border but that has changed. This is a new day and you have to promote your program. In other words the staff has to get off their butts and go to work.
Don't blame Mason County, give them a reason to stick with the Big Blue by showing them a product they can relate to and want to cheer for.
I don't think Pearl has shown that he's "outworking" our staff.
Tubby was 1-1 against him last year, and beat the Vols in one of the most important games in the history of their program -- the gimmick "white-out" event for ESPN on senior night.
Kentucky is 4-1 against the Vols with Chris Lofton playing, so it's not like Lofton has single-handedly slain the Cats or anything like that.
Also, Tubby Smith's team went further than Bruce Pearl's team last year in the SEC Tournament, and they went just as far in the NCAA Tournament.
We can clearly say that Kentucky is not where it needs to be in terms of our performance. No question. But I'm not sure how Pearl is outworking Tubby. It's not happening on the court. Not yet, anyway.
Will, I am not referring to won loss records. Bruce Pearl had a heck of a lot further to go at Tennessee last year to be a competitive program than Tubby Smith. Tubby had two or three times the talent last year than Pearl. I am talking about getting out and meeting the public, going to high schools, going on a media blitz and having your face in the news.
Bruce Pearl is doing that. Like him or not that is what he is doing. I know some very influential Tennessee boosters and they are as excited over UT basketball as they have been in many years. Their excite resulted from a meeting with Bruce Pearl in Knoxville and the experience their son had at his summer camp.
He is probably a snake oil salesman like Pitino but don't sell him short. The is not the time for our staff to slack off, we have at least two and maybe three programs in the SEC East that are going to be competitive for a long time and we have to stay one step ahead of them.
Our staff has to work, work, work.
DCWildcat
09-27-2006, 08:46 PM
bleedbluelady wrote: Pearl has outworked Tubby in at least one area...using the media to promote his program.
This is probably true.
To me, Pearl is little more than a poor man's Bill Self. He looks like the guy I bought my used car from.
bigbluelife
09-28-2006, 06:12 AM
Don't make this an agenda against Tubby post- my take on this is pearl had a visit with the Maysville high school start we're both recruiting and maysville blew that up into this fiasco.
bleedbluelady
09-28-2006, 08:04 AM
DCWildcat wrote: bleedbluelady wrote: Pearl has outworked Tubby in at least one area...using the media to promote his program.
This is probably true.
To me, Pearl is little more than a poor man's Bill Self. He looks like the guy I bought my used car from.
Yeah, I always thoughtif Pearlgets out of coaching he would be perfect at doing infomercials. :lol:
bluegrassking
09-29-2006, 07:32 PM
Let's not sell Pearl or Loften too short, without question it was a real accomplishment for UT to have the season they did last year and just making the NCAA's is probably just as much an accomplishment for that program as it is for us to make Elite 8, may be even a Final Four. Our position is far superior, which i think gets lost when we compare ourselves to lesser programs. Let's face it, even in a down year we lap them talent wise, if they catch up there will be hell to pay.
If Tubby was as effective promoting what we have as Pearl is what UT doesn't we'd be further ahead. Sometimes humility is a weakness-the UK Basketball HC is one such position.
I'm proud to be a Colonel but still asI often feel,I wish old Ernie hadn't done that.
Fletcher=worst living elected official. Imagine if he were President...geez, even worse than Dubbya, maybe by a mile and that's saying a ton.
Immediate openings availiable: Seeking new leadership for nearly everything I love.
Needed-A college basketball coach, a college football coach,an NFL Headcoach (warning must deal with Al Davis, this is tough), a Governor, and an US President.
bigbluelife
09-29-2006, 09:58 PM
Did you get ALL your agendas covered with this post??
Terry L. Wildcat
09-29-2006, 10:23 PM
graham51 wrote: Seeing so many,people get bent out of shape over something as ridiculous as Making Pearl a Ky. Colonel is absolutely ludicrous.
Somehwhere in the house I have one of those things and haven't seen it in years.
Years ago a stripper in Northern Ky. was made a Colonel and I don't think it caused this much outcry.
:cool:She was probably from my home town of Newport :thumbup
bluegrassking
09-30-2006, 01:19 PM
bigbluelife wrote: Did you get ALL your agendas covered with this post??
No, I believe it will take between four and six volumes, at about 300-400 pages to do that.
The internet use of agenda is entirely lazy. Every living person has agendas (goals, desireable outcomes, etc).
To the last soul, everyone on this board has an agenda, in regards to what they want to express especially as it concerns UKAA. The word is used when a person decides their agenda doesn't match a poster's.
It is nothing more than a catch-phrase and is lazy. Debate the points you disagree with but don't try to shut folks up with a catch phrase. Many of us are smart enough to see this. Not once have I attempted to silence or deride a poster with that sloppy refrain, I invite you to try it that way too.
Get over it! Reasonable people CAN and DO have diffrent opinions, youALSO have agendas,and your agenda is no more right than anyone else's.
bigbluelife
09-30-2006, 02:04 PM
Please spare me and hopefully others the wordy sermon- it's time to watch football!!!!!
Will Lavender
09-30-2006, 02:11 PM
bigbluelife wrote: Did you get ALL your agendas covered with this post??
No.
But since you asked, here it is:
I hate the University of Tennessee and every coach who's ever come through there. I'd hate Chris Lofton, too, if he weren't from Kentucky. But just because he's from Kentucky doesn't make me particularly like him; he still plays for our rival. And when I say "hate," I'm not talking Mommie Dearest/Hannibal Lecter-type hate. I'm talking good, old-fashioned disgust.
That's all.
Thanks.
Will Lavender
09-30-2006, 02:21 PM
bigbluelife wrote: Did you get ALL your agendas covered with this post??
I misunderstood your post! When you said "all," I thought you meant "all of us." :blush:
I'm still going to let that last post stand. It made me feel better. :lol:
trublue4life
10-01-2006, 03:47 PM
Will Lavender wrote: bigbluelife wrote: Did you get ALL your agendas covered with this post??
I misunderstood your post! When you said "all," I thought you meant "all of us." :blush:
I'm still going to let that last post stand. It made me feel better. :lol:
And, your post wasat least on topic instead of some sillydribble about the governor and the president on a UK fan board:rolleyes:
bigbluelife
10-02-2006, 06:42 AM
trublue4life wrote: Will Lavender wrote: bigbluelife wrote: Did you get ALL your agendas covered with this post??
I misunderstood your post! When you said "all," I thought you meant "all of us." :blush:
I'm still going to let that last post stand. It made me feel better. :lol:
And, your post wasat least on topic instead of some sillydribble about the governor and the president on a UK fan board:rolleyes:THANK YOU
poodoo
10-02-2006, 02:49 PM
FWIW, I, too, agree. Let's talk UK basketball here , not politics! :)GO CATS!
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