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Caveman Catfan
09-21-2006, 06:53 AM
http://www.kentucky.com/mld/kentucky/sports/colleges/university_of_kentucky/15569698.htm

(pretty stupid column, IMO)

Stretch
09-21-2006, 07:19 AM
Columnist for Lexington newspaper that survives by selling papers and advertising to fans of UK athletic programs bashes those same fans, calling them stupid in print.

Now, who is the stupid one?

Will Lavender
09-21-2006, 08:18 AM
I think I speak for many UK fans when I say that Louisville's success this season has made me respect them a heck of a lot more than I did. They are for real, and denying or diminishing that fact just makes people look foolish.

RedandBlackATTACK
09-21-2006, 09:27 AM
John's column this morning is indicative of a writer struggling to "fill space", many times easier said than done. If he was set on writing a piece with a UL angle, I believe a column with Hunter Cantwell in mind would have done the trick. Hunter's a Kentucky kid and a great story. He his also a devout Christian and heads a number of student athlete Christian organization - clubs on campus. Hunter's faith does not take a backseat to anything, that alone IMO, is a story by itself.

Rick

C-Bus

heatwave13
09-21-2006, 09:39 AM
Wow,I didn't realize thatUL really bothered THAT many people (UK fans). I guess I'm out of touch since I don't live in KY and UL doesn't really get much, if any, coverage around here. I guess I can see why many UK fans would be jealous, however, with the current status of both teams...it is what it is....and UL is in another class righ now. But, yeah, I agree with many that UL is for real in football and that they can hang with most anyone. So far, they've looked solid and have earned their high ranking.

I personally don't know anyone that is obsessed with hating UL sports. I would hope that people would have more important things in life tobe concernedabout.

Good one, Johnny C.

Terry L. Wildcat
09-21-2006, 09:44 AM
Will Lavender wrote: I think I speak for many UK fans when I say that Louisville's success this season has made me respect them a heck of a lot more than I did. They are for real, and denying or diminishing that fact just makes people look foolish.

:thumbupI was happy to see them beat Miami and they have earned my respect.

bleedbluelady
09-21-2006, 10:13 AM
heatwave13 wrote: Wow,I didn't realize thatUL really bothered THAT many people (UK fans). I guess I'm out of touch since I don't live in KY and UL doesn't really get much, if any, coverage around here. I guess I can see why many UK fans would be jealous, however, with the current status of both teams...it is what it is....and UL is in another class righ now. But, yeah, I agree with many that UL is for real in football and that they can hang with most anyone. So far, they've looked solid and have earned their high ranking.

I personally don't know anyone that is obsessed with hating UL sports. I would hope that people would have more important things in life tobe concernedabout.

Good one, Johnny C.

You could probably count on one hand how many UK fans are that obsessed with UL. UK beat Ole Miss last week soClay couldn't bash Brooks or Mitch, so he decided to bash the fans. JMHO.

boomdaddy
09-21-2006, 12:40 PM
Clay's last article about UK/UL was that UL owned the state and that every Kentucky kid wanted to go to UL. He has resulted to writing tabloid trash articles.

As far as UL goes, UK fans obsess about them when they are the next opponent. I, personally don't know anyone who wasn't rooting for them to whip Miami's tail.

poodoo
09-21-2006, 12:57 PM
RedandBlackATTACK wrote: John's column this morning is indicative of a writer struggling to "fill space", many times easier said than done. If he was set on writing a piece with a UL angle, I believe a column with Hunter Cantwell in mind would have done the trick. Hunter's a Kentucky kid and a great story. He his also a devout Christian and heads a number of student athlete Christian organization - clubs on campus. Hunter's faith does not take a backseat to anything, that alone IMO, is a story by itself.

Rick

C-Bus


R&B, you know how much I agree. I so admire Hunter Cantwell, the player AND especially the person. His story is indeed a great one, paying his own way at Louisville for two years after basicallynot impressing recruiters enough to get scholarship offersand NOW performingso impressively on the field, AND even more the story of the young man he is, particularly his religious faith'snot taking a backseat to anything, including football.

In regard toClay's column, it's pitiful, in my opinion. :(These columnists supposedly visit our message boards.It seems thatClay has not visited our site. :(Too, while I don't know what's onother sites, I think it's unlikely that it's just the opposite ofwhat is found here. Most everythingI have read here after Louisville's victory has been CONGRATULATIONS and PRAISE, even including a lot of praise for Coach Petrino's coaching. HATRED of Louisville has been mostly non-existent, or at leastmostly invisible, which is not indicative of an OBSESSION.

I think UK fans have seemed FAR MORE obsessed with our victory over Ole Miss and our chances for a bowl appearance. I surely hope that is the case. :thumbdownto John Clay's column.

boomdaddy
09-21-2006, 01:36 PM
If Clay can't think ofa story to write, why can't he do a piece on a local player, college or high school. CJ has an article on its front page about a high school kid.

http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060921/SPORTS05/609210388

I would much rather read this kind of article, that the mindless tripe that Clay has been writing.

BowlingGreenUKGrad
09-21-2006, 01:57 PM
bleedbluelady wrote: heatwave13 wrote: Wow,I didn't realize thatUL really bothered THAT many people (UK fans). I guess I'm out of touch since I don't live in KY and UL doesn't really get much, if any, coverage around here. I guess I can see why many UK fans would be jealous, however, with the current status of both teams...it is what it is....and UL is in another class righ now. But, yeah, I agree with many that UL is for real in football and that they can hang with most anyone. So far, they've looked solid and have earned their high ranking.

I personally don't know anyone that is obsessed with hating UL sports. I would hope that people would have more important things in life tobe concernedabout.

Good one, Johnny C.

You could probably count on one hand how many UK fans are that obsessed with UL. UK beat Ole Miss last week soClay couldn't bash Brooks or Mitch, so he decided to bash the fans. JMHO.
Then all the ones that are obsessed with U of L must post on this board, because there's a handful here already.

TrueblueCATfan
09-21-2006, 01:57 PM
I said UL football is the real deal............but NO way am I jealous or obsessed with UL......PLease!!!!!!!! whoever wrote the article needs therapy:cry:

bleedbluelady
09-21-2006, 04:38 PM
BowlingGreenUKGrad wrote: bleedbluelady wrote: heatwave13 wrote: Wow,I didn't realize thatUL really bothered THAT many people (UK fans). I guess I'm out of touch since I don't live in KY and UL doesn't really get much, if any, coverage around here. I guess I can see why many UK fans would be jealous, however, with the current status of both teams...it is what it is....and UL is in another class righ now. But, yeah, I agree with many that UL is for real in football and that they can hang with most anyone. So far, they've looked solid and have earned their high ranking.

I personally don't know anyone that is obsessed with hating UL sports. I would hope that people would have more important things in life tobe concernedabout.

Good one, Johnny C.

You could probably count on one hand how many UK fans are that obsessed with UL. UK beat Ole Miss last week soClay couldn't bash Brooks or Mitch, so he decided to bash the fans. JMHO.
Then all the ones that are obsessed with U of L must post on this board, because there's a handful here already.

Well of course they are all on this board. This is after all the best UK board. :)

lribookend
09-21-2006, 04:41 PM
I agree. Clay is scraping the bottom of the barrel. After the UL game, I forget about them until the following year. Call me dumb or old-fashioned, but I would rather beatTenn orFlorida than UofL. SEC wins are usually more impressive than wins against teams in weaker conferences.

Gunsmoke
09-21-2006, 04:47 PM
I call it like I see it and uL has a very good team and play hardnosed, aggressive football. I have given them more props this year than I ever have and probably ever will again. That being said if they lost every game they played so what? If UK fans don't like uL whose business is it anyway?INEVERhear or read from these typing/talking head idiots about the over the top uL fans who can't keep their mouths shut or their pens silent when it comes to bashing all-things UK. Until the uL fans keep their collective noses out of OUR business and the typing/talking heads startdoing their damn jobs instead of doing nothing but bashing UK then I will keep spouting off my thoughts..like it really matters anyway.:rolleyes:

RV
09-21-2006, 06:00 PM
Zooplankton>ul>JohnClay/MarkStory

BigBlue75
09-21-2006, 06:53 PM
That has got to be one of the most ridiculous columns I believe I've ever read.

I want UK to beat U of L every time they go against each other on the field or on the court, but apart from that and some good natured smack from time to time with U of L fans, I have no problem giving them the props they deserve. They've accomplished a lot and they deserve every accolade that's given them. I won't comment on the points in the article because they're too asinine to even mention and I know of no UK fan who thinks the way Clay's article would indicate. It's just nonsense, plain and simple.

Catsville
09-21-2006, 08:21 PM
What a lot of journalists (and fans as well) do not realize is that a strong rivalry such as UK-UL makes the game more fun... It's fun to hate UL, as it should be fun for UL fans to hate UK. As long as no one gets hurt then it's a good thing- I emphasize this because I had two UL fans pick fights with me at Pizza Stadium this year just because I was decked out in blue... How moronic.

I grew up in Louisville- lived there until moving to Nashville 3 years ago. Most of my friends up there were UL fans and they thought I was stupid for bashing Pitino when he did the unthinkable... He disrespected the rivalry, but at the same time he made it even stronger.

Rivalries are fun. I'm not ashamed to admit that I pull for ANY team that UL is playing. What's so wrong with that? (I even went to UL for 5 years!) Personally, UL is the ONLY team that I utterly dislike. A lot of folks always cheer against Duke, NC or IU in bball, but I usually pull for them because I tend tolike the tradition-rich programs.

All that being said (typed), I respect UL- I just don't like them. It's more fun that way!

Sam K.
09-21-2006, 08:58 PM
I did not read the article and really wish others would just ignore his inflammatory writings. Instead of responding to his stirring the pot, maybe someone could post names andemails of editors or sponsors that we could make our feelings known to.

trublue4life
09-21-2006, 09:17 PM
Let's see...last week Mark Story writes a pointless column about UL two weeks after the game...Alan Cutler spends a major part of every talk show last week (two weeks after the game) talking about whether or not UK should drop UL from the schedule...today John Clay writes another stupid column about UL three weeks after the game...then tonightI turn on the radio and Cutler and some UL fan are talking about UK/UL three weeks after the game....soI ask, who has the obsession? Seems to me it's the local media that can't seem to let go of it and find something of interest and something current to write/talk about.

johnkyblue
09-21-2006, 09:39 PM
Tennessee.... I will admit to having hatred of them. I despise them. They are my anti-christ.

Louisville isn't there yet. If we don't beat them next year they will get A LOT closer.

As far as the media in town... I haven't really paid that much attention... I like Cutler and the Bengals coverage he does... it's better than the Kentucky coverage he does.

(I waited to post 20th on this thread because I wanted the first post on the second page... is that a sign?)

bleedblue79
09-21-2006, 11:34 PM
When I read my H-L sports page this morning at first his article made me angry. Like many of you have stated why is he still hashing out this UofL stuff when that game was over three weeks ago. The Cats have two good wins under their belt since then and I am happy with the progress this team is making. Instead of constantly needling the Kentucky fans with this drivel why doesn't he write something positive for a change. I had made up my mind to e-mail the paper and complain, then I calmed down. That's what they are trying to do, get a reaction out of me their typicalsubscriber who is a UK fan.

I don't know what the answer is, probably drop my paper subscription, but I enjoy my paper in the mornings and I read it for more than the sports page. I have lived in Central Kentucky all my life and ever since I was a kid I read the Lexington newspapers. I remember (telling my age) when it was two papers, morning and evening. I remember when they won their Pulitzer in the 80's for "outing" the UK Basketball program. I don't ever remember it being this bad. Both of the columnists(Clay and Story) are so verynegative towards UK. Its seems that according to them the UK Athletics Department can do nothing right.

What in the world would they do if things started going well in the Big Blue Nation?:shrug:



GO BIG BLUE!!!

delkfor3
09-22-2006, 03:14 AM
UK fans are not, I repeat are not obsessed with UofL. If anything, UofL fans are obsessed with UK. I often wonder if the media ever gets tired of badmouthing UK fans, and I guess the answer that that is NO.:thumbdown