Congratulations Mitch, No Game on Fox Sports South here in Montgomery, Alabama [Archive] - Wildcat Nation Forums

Wildcat Larry

11-25-2005, 06:30 PM

crazycatfan wrote: You guys amaze me. I decided to give up my tickets tonight and I am just as upset at not seeing it on tv. But to blame Mitch because FSN is having technical difficulties is stupid. He can't control uplink trucks guys.

To start with, there was no indication of technical problems when this thread was started. There's still nothing on Fox about technical problems. There's only second-hand info about technical problems, now. Mitch made this wonderful contract with Fox Sports South and they've screwed up two out of two games. Everything that I've heard tells me that Mitch didn't investigate Fox Sports South's ability to do what they said that would. That IS a problem that falls directly in Mitch's lap.

RP_McMurphy

11-25-2005, 06:30 PM

Now come on Larry he has been working real, real hard to ekk 2 wins a year out in football.

Wildcat Larry wrote:
Total bumbling of the television contract. No excuse for this lame excuse for a decision. What a guy, Mitch, what a guy.

:X:X:X:X:X:X:X:X:X:X:X:dmad:

Kentucky Jim

11-25-2005, 06:32 PM

DTV channel 633 is now reporting the technical problems and says to 'stay tuned'

RP_McMurphy

11-25-2005, 06:33 PM

I have his email addyhere it is folks Wildcat Larry wrote:
I fired off a blazing email to Mitch, like he would really care about UK fans. :rolleyes::X:X

Travelin_Cat

11-25-2005, 06:33 PM

mbarn@uky.edu (mailto:mbarn@uky.edu)

or
call: 859-257-8015

CurlyCat

11-25-2005, 06:34 PM

Honestly, Mitch screws up so much as AD of Kentucky, he gives us little reason to believe he does anything much right.

And seems like I'm missing Bobby Perry's coming out party too... :P Larry? ;)

Caveman Catfan

11-25-2005, 06:38 PM

Bill Curry hates UK fans!!! Bill Curry hates UK fans!!!!

RP_McMurphy

11-25-2005, 06:38 PM

Well folks when you hire a UT alum what did you think would happen?

Wildcat Larry

11-25-2005, 06:38 PM

CurlyCat wrote: Honestly, Mitch screws up so much as AD of Kentucky, he gives us little reason to believe he does anything much right.

And seems like I'm missing Bobby Perry's coming out party too... :P Larry? ;)
I figured that you and Bobby Perry were getting along pretty good so far tonight. ;)

Sir Richard F. Burton

11-25-2005, 06:38 PM

Up here in "faux" Virginia Northern Va. ;) I have no message in ch 633 dtv.

Kentucky Jim wrote: DTV channel 633 is now reporting the technical problems and says to 'stay tuned'

Caveman Catfan

11-25-2005, 06:40 PM

Sir Richard F. Burton wrote: Up here in "faux" Virginia Northern Va. ;) I have no message in ch 633 dtv.

Kentucky Jim wrote: DTV channel 633 is now reporting the technical problems and says to 'stay tuned'

THe bottom of 655 is announcing that there are tech difficulties and that they are trying to remedy the problem.

Backrate

11-25-2005, 06:40 PM

i'm seeing a crawl at the bottom of the screen that says tech problems. stayy tuned

i hope mitch is working on it:dude:

RP_McMurphy

11-25-2005, 06:47 PM

The technical problem is putting the game on Fox Sports.

CurlyCat

11-25-2005, 06:51 PM

It's On Now!

DirecTV Channel 633

Sir Richard F. Burton

11-25-2005, 06:52 PM

I figgered you loved FOX.;)

RP_McMurphy wrote: The technical problem is putting the game on Fox Sports.

Wildcat Larry

11-25-2005, 06:52 PM

I'm apparently not going to get it here. I guess they think that Montgomery, Alabama is a big ACC town. :rolleyes::(

CurlyCat

11-25-2005, 06:53 PM

Oh, and Larry, I think I jinxed Bobby Perrry. He just shot a clinker off the front of the rim. :shock:

Backrate

11-25-2005, 06:56 PM

on here just in time for half

RP_McMurphy

11-25-2005, 07:01 PM

Not a big fan of Fox Sports they are a very poorly run.

Sir Richard F. Burton wrote:
I figgered you loved FOX.;)

RP_McMurphy wrote: The technical problem is putting the game on Fox Sports.

WildcatDan

11-25-2005, 07:04 PM

come join us in the chat room - click "water cooler" ;)

KapitalCat

11-25-2005, 07:08 PM

I usually try and cut Mitch some slack but he blew this one, its a bad deal for UK fans.

Backrate

11-25-2005, 07:30 PM

my browsers freeze whenever i try to load it-chat

bigblue4ever

11-25-2005, 08:13 PM

I know here in Kennesaw Comcastnever had any intentions of showing the game. The cableguide showed GT all week on Digital Cable and my Windows media center guide...

ukbob

11-25-2005, 08:23 PM

I still haven't seen it. DISH didn't have it on.

We can see Duke play St. Polycarp of the Snow on ESPN every night or UL play anyone on local channels here, but no UK.

ColoradoWildcat

11-25-2005, 08:24 PM

I guess we are going to have the same problem with the High Point game on Tuesday.

Wildcat Larry

11-25-2005, 08:33 PM

Right now the listing for Tuesday night on Fox Sports South has the UK - High Point game, but I don't believe it. It had the UK - Liberty game listed all week until today and it suddenly changed to the Georgia Tech game.

I'm pretty disgusted with Mitch's Fox Sports deal. It smacks of somebody either not doing their homework or not caring. Neither instance is acceptable. :X

ColoradoWildcat

11-25-2005, 08:40 PM

For those of us outside the SEC region, we don't get to watch the games even if it show that they are on. The whole blackout outside the region has us really pissed. At least last year I got to see them delayed.

Wildcat Larry

11-25-2005, 08:44 PM

CurlyCat wrote: And seems like I'm missing Bobby Perry's coming out party too... :P Larry? ;)

Look! I told you he could dunk. ;):D:P

http://www.ukathletics.com/img2/mbb_112505_perry6.jpg

ukbob

11-25-2005, 08:44 PM

We cannot even get the game delayed in Louisville like we used to on the wonderful Big Blue Network....whatever that is. Not impressed with "fabulous" tv contract.

RCS

11-25-2005, 09:03 PM

Larry,Have you ever gotten games like this in Alabama? Until this year these were always either local games or delayed so I am not sure why you are mad that it is not on in Alabama. Why would you expect UK-Liberty to be on in Alabama? If there is a more spoiled fan base than UK I would like to see it. We get ever game shown live on some chanel. I guarantee you we are the only team in the country that is true for. Not only do people in the SE not in KY get way more UK games but UK gets more money also but somehow this is a terrible deal. Fox had techincal difficulties and people are calling for the AD's head. Seems real logical.

UK7titles

11-25-2005, 09:12 PM

"If there is a more spoiled fan base than UK"

dude i live right across the river from louisville..i CAN NEVER SEE THE UK GAMES ON FOX SOUTH. i am out of their region. i have always been able to see the games before..but now due to this bull crap i can't.

how is that spoiled?

Wildcat Larry

11-25-2005, 09:42 PM

RCS wrote: Larry,Have you ever gotten games like this in Alabama? Until this year these were always either local games or delayed so I am not sure why you are mad that it is not on in Alabama. Why would you expect UK-Liberty to be on in Alabama? If there is a more spoiled fan base than UK I would like to see it. We get ever game shown live on some chanel. I guarantee you we are the only team in the country that is true for. Not only do people in the SE not in KY get way more UK games but UK gets more money also but somehow this is a terrible deal. Fox had techincal difficulties and people are calling for the AD's head. Seems real logical.

I would expect this game to be on in Alabama because Alabama is SEC territory, not ACC territory and the contract with Fox Sports Southis supposed to show these games in the Fox Sports South region.

Also, before the contract with Fox Sports South, I would see games like this live on ESPN Full Court with the UKTV Network announcers. Therefore, this is a game that I would have seen had the contract been with ESPN Full Court instead of Fox Sports South. Additionally, when the contract was on ESPN Full Court they could be viewed nationwide if you wish to get the subscription service. The current contract definitely shrinks the viewing area.

Also, what I said was the Mitch made a very bad decision in going with Fox Sports South, nothing about calling for his head. And, yes, my post was made a long time before theadmitted technical difficulties. And the technical difficulties had nothing to do with me not being able to get the game. Fox Sports South decided that Montgomery, Alabama would get a Georgia Tech game. Therefore, UK's contract with Fox isn't even one that shows these games in all outlets that Fox Sports South is shown in.

All of that's what I'm ticked about, not the what you've decided to assign to me as what I'm mad about and not the fact that you've assigned me the title of being a spoiled fan. Understand. :rolleyes:

BigblueDrew

11-25-2005, 09:48 PM

Those old evil UK FANS are at it agian. Running down the program. How dare they want to actually SEE the Wildcats in action. How inconsiderate of them.

CurlyCat

11-25-2005, 10:05 PM

Wildcat Larry wrote: CurlyCat wrote: And seems like I'm missing Bobby Perry's coming out party too... :P Larry? ;)

Look! I told you he could dunk. ;):D:P

http://www.ukathletics.com/img2/mbb_112505_perry6.jpg

But Larry, I don't see a defender on him either, do you? ;)

Honestly, even in the 2nd half that I did get to see because of Fox, Perry did have a very good game. Some shots were contested, but this was not a strong opponent either. But the best part is, I was pining for a reason to have hope that Perry could have more of a game than I thought he had. And now, I do have hope, and I'm happy about it. :)

I think he wanted the chance to prove himself and he rose to the occasion tonight.

Great Game Bobby Perry!
Keep up the good work!

CurlyCat

11-25-2005, 10:08 PM

RCS wrote: Fox had techincal difficulties and people are calling for the AD's head. Seems real logical.

No one called for his head. We do however, call him out when need be. And for Mitch, that can be fairly regularly.

Now I personally did say that if he were to blame for me not getting the game, I would be happy to fire off an email to him. That is far from "calling for his head".

BigBlue75

11-25-2005, 10:11 PM

I'm posting after the fact, but after reading a few of the posts, number one, I can't believe how many people didn't see the technical difficulties message scroll across the bottom of the screen (which Tom Leach also announced on the radio broadcast), and number two, I'm even more amazed at the people whothink technical glitches are Mitch Barnhart's fault. :rolleyes:

I was as aggravated as anyone when the broadcast didn't start on time but I'm not silly enough to think that our AD is responsible for technical problems. Sheesh!

Wildcat Larry

11-25-2005, 10:33 PM

I don't see a single post that says that the technical difficulties were Mitch Barnhart's fault. I do see folks that are unhappy that he contracted with a entity that has had problems gettng the last two games to the UK fans that Mitch is so quick to point out that he's helping.

NC Cat

11-25-2005, 10:44 PM

Wildcat Larry wrote: Right now the listing for Tuesday night on Fox Sports South has the UK - High Point game, but I don't believe it. It had the UK - Liberty game listed all week until today and it suddenly changed to the Georgia Tech game.

I'm pretty disgusted with Mitch's Fox Sports deal. It smacks of somebody either not doing their homework or not caring. Neither instance is acceptable. :X

Count me as another fan disgusted with Mitch's handling of UK television. I got Georgia Tech on Fox here too, andthe previousUK game on Fox SSgot preempted forCarolina Hurricanes hockey. Yep, that's right, hockey. The sport that took a whole year off and nobody noticed...

And then there's the terrific ESPNU coverage that no cable providers in the country carry...and the ESPNU games aren'tavailable on ESPN FullCourt even though all 6 stationshave been idleat the time each game was played... You would think the BB program with the largest fan base in the country would do something to maintain and strengthen that base, wouldn't you? You would thinka program like UK could DEMAND that games carried on ESPNU, whichno one butdish owners get,would also be carried on FullCourt. I mean, c'mon, we're already shelling out $100 for FullCourt, what would the harm be? No, instead Mitch lets ESPN use UK fansas a tool to get cable operators across the country to carry ESPNU.ESPN wants as many UKgames on ESPNU as they can get, because they know each game will elicit thousands of calls to cable companies across the cournty. But do they do the samething to dUKe? No friggin' way. Apparently dUKe hasan AD with balls and brains and we have one with neither!

Mountain Cat

11-25-2005, 10:44 PM

I felt the same way about the UK-West Virginia game. How could that not be on TV in Atlanta.

Thank goodness I am in Lex for Thanksgiving and went to the game tonight. I was one section away from midcourt, in the second row behind the rail in the lower section. My eyes were exactly at rim level. Great view. My 12 year old and my 6 yr old sons were with me and the Mrs. Great fun for the family. I was so happy for Bobby Perry.

Mountain Cat

11-25-2005, 10:48 PM

NC Cat wrote: Wildcat Larry wrote: Right now the listing for Tuesday night on Fox Sports South has the UK - High Point game, but I don't believe it. It had the UK - Liberty game listed all week until today and it suddenly changed to the Georgia Tech game.

I'm pretty disgusted with Mitch's Fox Sports deal. It smacks of somebody either not doing their homework or not caring. Neither instance is acceptable. :X
Count me as another fan disgusted with Mitch's handling of UK television. I got Georgia Tech on Fox here too, andthe previousgame on Fox got preempted forCarolina Hurricanes hockey. And then there's the terrific ESPNU coverage that no cable providers in the country carry...and isn't available on ESPN fullcourt even though all 6 stationshave been idleat the time... You would think the program with the largest fan base in the country would do something to maintain and strengthen that base, wouldn't you? You would thinka program like UK could DEMAND that games carried on ESPNU, whichno one butdish owners get,would also be carried on FullCourt. I mean, c'mon, we're already shelling out $100 for FullCourt, what would the harm be? No, instead Mitch lets ESPN use UK fansas a tool to get cable operators across the country to carry ESPNU.ESPN wants as many UKgames on ESPNU as they can get, because they know each game will elicit thousands of calls to cable companies across the cournty. But do they do the samething to dUKe? No way. Apparently they have an AD with balls and brains. We have one with neither!
Mitch might be ball-less and brainless, but at least he's overpaid and a Jurich wannabe. ;)

Trueblujr

11-25-2005, 11:19 PM

One other thing I caught once the game finally came on...they ran an ad promoting upcoming games to be televised...they billed the UK/High Point game as a "preseason exhibition" game. Our 6th game of the season is now a "preseason exhibition" according to FSS.

tauzreborn

11-26-2005, 02:09 AM

Trueblujr wrote: One other thing I caught once the game finally came on...they ran an ad promoting upcoming games to be televised...they billed the UK/High Point game as a "preseason exhibition" game. Our 6th game of the season is now a "preseason exhibition" according to FSS.What a joke! I am way over the intoxicated level and I know that it is definetlya regular season game.

Stretch

11-26-2005, 07:27 AM

My whole life, UK home games against weak sisters like Liberty were only televised via tape delay. Now. the athletic department arranges for even those games to be broadcast live for the very first time EVER and Mitch gets slammed because the Fox network--which has the proven technical competence to broadcast the Super Bowl and World Series--has a technical problem.

Some folks would blame Mitch for cancer and Hurricane Katrina.

TrueblueCATfan

11-26-2005, 07:31 AM

Folks....the game was on FSS Channel 73 last night but due to techinical Difficulties it was delayed and the game finally came on with about 4 minutes left in the first half...I agree with BB75 that is not Mitch's fault.....just my 2 cents worth....I talked to Insight yesterday and they told me the game was on....

jaken

11-26-2005, 07:47 AM

No game here in Paducah, live, tape delayed or delivered by Pony Express. The technical difficulties of FSN amounted to their engineers trying to decide whether the big blade on the plug went into the big slot or the little slot in the outlet! In this day and age, there's no such thing as "technical difficulties"..... only incompetance.

BigBlue75

11-26-2005, 08:56 AM

Wildcat Larry wrote: I don't see a single post that says that the technical difficulties were Mitch Barnhart's fault. I do see folks that are unhappy that he contracted with a entity that has had problems gettng the last two games to the UK fans that Mitch is so quick to point out that he's helping.
Well, okay, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt on that one,but the majority of the first posts I read were complaining about the Georgia Tech game being on instead of the UK game, which was a technical issue and not contractural. That's all I'm saying.

Now, if certain stations that are affiliated with Fox Sports Southwere supposed to be carrying the game and they chose not to for whatever reason, THAT is definitely a problem.

NC Cat

11-26-2005, 09:08 AM

Sir Richard F. Burton

11-26-2005, 09:25 AM

Same here in Northern Virginia. Last year we at least got them taped delay on DTV now all we get is the teaser\lie by DTV saying we will get the game but never seeing it. Last night after the tecnical glitch we in NoVA never got the game. Sat TV is unique in that it can offer Sports to far flung fans until a boneheaded TV agreement is put in place that serves only as an an obstacle. If I'm willing to pay extra to watch UK then WHY DEPRIVE ME????????

NC Cat wrote: Wildcat Larry wrote: I don't see a single post that says that the technical difficulties were Mitch Barnhart's fault. I do see folks that are unhappy that he contracted with a entity that has had problems gettng the last two games to the UK fans that Mitch is so quick to point out that he's helping.Exactly! Here in NC we're getting fewer UK games than we got before. Thanks for helping Mitch....NOT!!!!

Caveman Catfan

11-26-2005, 11:00 AM

ukbob wrote: I still haven't seen it. DISH didn't have it on.

We can see Duke play St. Polycarp of the Snow on ESPN every night or UL play anyone on local channels here, but no UK.

I watched it on DirectTV. I would suggest calling DISH and informing that you are considering a change in providers.

Caveman Catfan

11-26-2005, 11:06 AM

There are some pretty ugly comments on this thread. Glad to see everyone is willing to be a constructive part of a solution tothe dilemma, rather than just be a member of the bitch brigade. :rolleyes:

Wildcat Larry

11-26-2005, 11:11 AM

I'm sort of sorry that I started this thread, but I think everybody needed a place to vent (me included). I have mellowed a little overnight, but I'm still not at all happy with the Fox Sports South decision and contract that Mitch negotiated. It highly questionable that the decision-making process on this one went the right direction. It just seems to me that a lot of things were undetermined when the contract was signed making it a poorly negotiated contract. That's all I'm saying.

I'm not at all calling for Mitch's head or anything like that, but I do think he either messed this up or mislead the fans, either of which is a major mistake.

UK7titles

11-26-2005, 11:12 AM

Stretch wrote: My whole life, UK home games against weak sisters like Liberty were only televised via tape delay. Now. the athletic department arranges for even those games to be broadcast live for the very first time EVER and Mitch gets slammed because the Fox network--which has the proven technical competence to broadcast the Super Bowl and World Series--has a technical problem.

Some folks would blame Mitch for cancer and Hurricane Katrina.

no, my whole life i have seen all the games. until now. even without technical difficulties i would not have gotten the game last night. others on here are the same way. this is the 2nd game so far this year that there has been absolutely no tv for at my house.

and they call it expanded coverage. who gets games now that never did before?

SunBaller

11-26-2005, 11:28 AM

Stretch wrote: Some folks would blame Mitch for cancer and Hurricane Katrina.

I really don't think he had anything at all to do with cancer, but I have been very suspicious about his involvement with Hurricane Katrina.

Some folks are just chronic complainers and even crywhen theycan't havecheese with their goodwhine. :lol:

NC Cat

11-26-2005, 02:37 PM

Caveman Catfan wrote: There are some pretty ugly comments on this thread. Glad to see everyone is willing to be a constructive part of a solution tothe dilemma, rather than just be a member of the bitch brigade. :rolleyes:
Ugly comments fully deserved IMO. Why would an AD sign a TV contract that would cause his school's fans outside Kentucky (and remember, we have more fans outside our home state than any other school in the country) to see FEWER games than they could see before?His blatant disregard for UK fans in signing this contract is either a result of him not doing his homework on Fox Sports programming or simply not caring. Either way, it's still blatant disregard. My contructive solution? Take the mostmarketable program in college basketball to another network and assure that as many games as possible are accessible to fans EVERYWHERE, not just in Kentucky. UK is far bigger than the state's borders and everyone but Mitch seems to know that... :rolleyes:

I'm also fairly certain thatif they stopped broadcasting games in the Louisville area you'd be bitching too. Easy to criticize whenyou get tosee all the games...

And since I'm acharter member of the bitch brigade, you may as well also know that I blame Mitch for the messour football program is in. And lest I be labeledpart of the problem, my constructive solution would be tofire Brooks (rather than giving him an unearned reprieve) and hire someone who is 1) not drawingsocial security and 2)isstill intouch with college football, and 3) gives us at least an outside chance at winning against aUT team that isthe worst they've been in a couple of decades...

Terry L. Wildcat

11-27-2005, 11:36 AM

A sportsbar in Boulder told us they could get the game...channel 633 was put on and it said the game was blacked out...I must be getting old as we just went home and listened to it on the computer...I was disappointed but not ready to lynch Mitch.

Caveman Catfan

11-27-2005, 01:22 PM

NC Cat wrote: His blatant disregard for UK fans in signing this contract is either a result of him not doing his homework on Fox Sports programming or simply not caring. Either way, it's still blatant disregard.

That's just a bunch of crap. Why not shoot him a friendly email and express your concerns and ask him to find a resolution instead of these accusation of him not caring about UK fans? What a load . . .

Caveman Catfan

11-27-2005, 01:25 PM

NC Cat wrote: I'm also fairly certain thatif they stopped broadcasting games in the Louisville area you'd be bitching too. Easy to criticize whenyou get tosee all the games...

Well, I listened to the first two games on the radio and watched the WVU game at a bar, because I did not have the games at my house. AND, I did not get to see most of the first half of the Liberty game because of the technical snafu.

So, I don't think you would hear me bitching about Mitch had if I lived out of state and could not get thegame.

Easy to be wrong when you speculate.

UK7titles

11-27-2005, 01:33 PM

That's just a bunch of crap. Why not shoot him a friendly email and express your concerns and ask him to find a resolution instead of these accusation of him not caring about UK fans? What a load . . .

i did that a few weeks ago after i first got screwed out of seeing a game. i sent him an email, as well as scott stricklin at UK (not sure what position he holds) as well as one to fox sports.

nobody at uk bothered to reply, fox sports gave me a standard form email that answered NONE of the questions i had....screw mitch. the football team is so bad we can't even see them on TV many games. and now, due to greed we can't watch several hoops games.

ukbob

11-27-2005, 02:24 PM

I sent a friendly email to him asking why no delayed broadcast in Louisville, at least. No reply as yet, nor do I expect one right away.

DISH has the High Point game on a alternate channel next week.

Spanish Moss

11-27-2005, 02:28 PM

Now that our basketball team is no longer a Top 5 program, I expect we may see less and less of it on national TV.

Get ready for even more Duke, lots of North Carolina, UConn until we can't see straight, Michigan State and heaven forbid, INDIANA. (just kidding about that one) but we are slip slidding away.

Chaz

11-27-2005, 02:59 PM

ukbob wrote: I sent a friendly email to him asking why no delayed broadcast in Louisville, at least. No reply as yet, nor do I expect one right away.

DISH has the High Point game on a alternate channel next week.
I just checked the guide and DISH has the game listed on 420 FS South and also on an Alt ch 453. Fridays game wasn't listed at all on my guide.:( So far, when listed, I've been able to see it live. Good Luck to those from out of state in the South.

NC Cat

11-27-2005, 03:13 PM

Caveman Catfan wrote: NC Cat wrote: His blatant disregard for UK fans in signing this contract is either a result of him not doing his homework on Fox Sports programming or simply not caring. Either way, it's still blatant disregard.

That's just a bunch of crap. Why not shoot him a friendly email and express your concerns and ask him to find a resolution instead of these accusation of him not caring about UK fans? What a load . . .

Why is it a bunch of crap? Did Mitch sign a contract knowing the fanswould get to see fewer games than before? If so, then he chose to ignore what's in the best interest of the fans.If not, then he didn't do his homework.

And I did send him an e-mail asking him why our games could not at least be accessed on ESPN fullcourt...with no reply. You'd think an AD who cared about the fanswould at least send out an auto-generated reply when one e-mailed him,woudn't you?But I guess this is a load too, huh? :rolleyes:

NC Cat

11-27-2005, 03:30 PM

Caveman Catfan wrote: NC Cat wrote: I'm also fairly certain thatif they stopped broadcasting games in the Louisville area you'd be bitching too. Easy to criticize whenyou get tosee all the games...

Well, I listened to the first two games on the radio and watched the WVU game at a bar, because I did not have the games at my house. AND, I did not get to see most of the first half of the Liberty game because of the technical snafu.

So, I don't think you would hear me bitching about Mitch had if I lived out of state and could not get thegame.

Easy to be wrong when you speculate.

Never once did I criticize Mitch about the technical snafu. These things happen and are obviously well beyond the control of anyone at UK. (Easy to be wrong when you don't read carefully.)

However, I did criticize him for signing a screwed-up TV deal (I've got hockey on again Tuesdaynight instead of UK basketball, btw) and will continue to do so.The TV deal sucks, IMO.I don't get to see my Cats as often as I have in the past and that makes me cranky. And I know if I can't see theCats as often here in NC, other fans and potential recruits are in the same boat around the rest of the country. You get far more games in Louisville than I do here, but sinceit doesn't bother youI'll gladly trade you TV hookups for the season. Got a deal?

Caveman Catfan

11-27-2005, 03:45 PM

NC Cat wrote: Caveman Catfan wrote: NC Cat wrote: I'm also fairly certain thatif they stopped broadcasting games in the Louisville area you'd be bitching too. Easy to criticize whenyou get tosee all the games...

Well, I listened to the first two games on the radio and watched the WVU game at a bar, because I did not have the games at my house. AND, I did not get to see most of the first half of the Liberty game because of the technical snafu.

So, I don't think you would hear me bitching about Mitch had if I lived out of state and could not get thegame.

Easy to be wrong when you speculate.

Never once did I criticize Mitch about the technical snafu. These things happen and are obviously well beyond the control of anyone at UK. (Easy to be wrong when you don't read carefully.)

However, I did criticize him for signing a screwed-up TV deal (I've got hockey on again Tuesdaynight instead of UK basketball, btw) and will continue to do so.The TV deal sucks, IMO.I don't get to see my Cats as often as I have in the past and that makes me cranky. And I know if I can't see theCats as often here in NC, other fans and potential recruits are in the same boat around the rest of the country. You get far more games in Louisville than I do here, but sinceit doesn't bother youI'll gladly trade you TV hookups for the season. Got a deal?

Perhaps you might want to read a little closer. I was responding to your comment that it is "easy to criticize whenyou get tosee all the games." I never said that you complained because of a technical snafu. Your suggestion that I would be a bitcher if I did not live in Louisville is, in fact, wrong. Fact is that I have not been able to see all the games. That was my point.

So, I do agree with this part of your post: "Easy to be wrong when you don't read carefully."

cumberlandredskin

11-27-2005, 05:01 PM

ukbob wrote: I sent a friendly email to him asking why no delayed broadcast in Louisville, at least. No reply as yet, nor do I expect one right away.

DISH has the High Point game on a alternate channel next week.
Don't be surprised if the blackout is put on before Tuesday. Sometimes DISHdoesn't put it on until the day before a game. They miss them sometimes too so keep your fingers crossed. You will probably be OK in Louisville, though. This is very disappointing that this new TV contract has come this. This administration just has no thought for the fans after they get their pockets lined with the money.

Wildcat Larry

11-27-2005, 05:07 PM

Right now, tvguide.com is listing the game on Fox Sports South for my cable operators, but I'll believe it when I see it. The Liberty game was listed on tvguide.com until the day of the game, then the Georgia Tech - IUC game suddenly replaced it.

I'm not feeling particularly confident just because it's listed.

CurlyCat

11-27-2005, 05:50 PM

NC Cat wrote: Caveman Catfan wrote: There are some pretty ugly comments on this thread. Glad to see everyone is willing to be a constructive part of a solution tothe dilemma, rather than just be a member of the bitch brigade. :rolleyes:
I'm also fairly certain thatif they stopped broadcasting games in the Louisville area you'd be bitching too. Easy to criticize whenyou get tosee all the games...

And since I'm acharter member of the bitch brigade, you may as well also know that I blame Mitch for the messour football program is in. And lest I be labeledpart of the problem, my constructive solution would be tofire Brooks (rather than giving him an unearned reprieve) and hire someone who is 1) not drawingsocial security and 2)isstill intouch with college football, and 3) gives us at least an outside chance at winning against aUT team that isthe worst they've been in a couple of decades...

Well said NC Cat.

Count me in as another charter member of the bitch brigade. I'm sure it will be quite a sizable group.

UK7titles

11-27-2005, 07:15 PM

we a;; complained after the first game we got screwed on, and nothing changed. nothing is going to change now. we got hosed, they don't care because they already got their check.

thanks mitch, you are doing a fine job.

MSU Cat

11-28-2005, 10:03 AM

Stretch wrote: My whole life, UK home games against weak sisters like Liberty were only televised via tape delay. Now. the athletic department arranges for even those games to be broadcast live for the very first time EVER and Mitch gets slammed because the Fox network--which has the proven technical competence to broadcast the Super Bowl and World Series--has a technical problem.

Some folks would blame Mitch for cancer and Hurricane Katrina.
And some would defend him for retaining a 3-8 football coach. Mitch says he is going to get us the games, we expect him to deliver. The technical difficulties had nothing to do with the fact I couldn't see it. It wasn't being broadcast like it was listed. I saw a hockey game. If a reworked TV contract is supposed to let me see the games then I expect to see them. If not, what was the point of the new deal?

MSU Cat

11-28-2005, 10:05 AM

CurlyCat wrote: NC Cat wrote: Caveman Catfan wrote: There are some pretty ugly comments on this thread. Glad to see everyone is willing to be a constructive part of a solution tothe dilemma, rather than just be a member of the bitch brigade. :rolleyes:
I'm also fairly certain thatif they stopped broadcasting games in the Louisville area you'd be bitching too. Easy to criticize whenyou get tosee all the games...

And since I'm acharter member of the bitch brigade, you may as well also know that I blame Mitch for the messour football program is in. And lest I be labeledpart of the problem, my constructive solution would be tofire Brooks (rather than giving him an unearned reprieve) and hire someone who is 1) not drawingsocial security and 2)isstill intouch with college football, and 3) gives us at least an outside chance at winning against aUT team that isthe worst they've been in a couple of decades...

Well said NC Cat.

Count me in as another charter member of the bitch brigade. I'm sure it will be quite a sizable group.
A round of applause for you NC Cat.

matt57

11-28-2005, 04:46 PM

RCS wrote: Larry,Have you ever gotten games like this in Alabama? Until this year these were always either local games or delayed so I am not sure why you are mad that it is not on in Alabama. Why would you expect UK-Liberty to be on in Alabama? If there is a more spoiled fan base than UK I would like to see it. We get ever game shown live on some chanel. I guarantee you we are the only team in the country that is true for. Not only do people in the SE not in KY get way more UK games but UK gets more money also but somehow this is a terrible deal. Fox had techincal difficulties and people are calling for the AD's head. Seems real logical.

RCS, let me explain my dilemma to you. you tell me if this seems unfair. i know the same situation goes for UK7Titiles as well:

i live in Jeffersonville, IN. this is 85 miles from lexington and 2 miles north of louisville. for the past 10+ years i've gotten every game either live or delayed. this year uk announces this "expanded coverage" deal. now all of the sudden i don't get these games???? let me run through the coverage options.....i have dish network by the way.

fsn ohio-can't get the game there because they claim i'm outside the market. but, somehow i get reds' games????????/

fsn south- after being duped by fsn ohio i ordered fsn south. well i got the channel but, i paid 5.99 for a black screen. you see they told me i was outside of the market there as well.

delayed- which brings me to this last resort.....wave 3 e-mails me and says since the game is on in louisville they won't preempt the tonight show. so basically i'm screwed.

this deal sucks and it is 100% mitch's fault

matt57

11-28-2005, 05:17 PM

i just sent my third e-mail to mitch here it is for those interested

Dear Mitch,

I just wanted to take the time to write this E-mail and get a few things of my chest. I know I won't get a response and I know the situation won't change. I'm 23 years old, been a Cat fan my entire life. I live in Jeffersonville, IN which is 85 miles from Lexington and just across the bridge from Louisville, KY. Prior to this year I watched every UK game of the year. Whether it was on live or taped delay. Imagine, if you can, the complete disappointment that hit me when I learned that I would be blacked out from several games this year. You see, I've called Dish Network (my service provider) they tell me that they black out by area code. So, since I reside in Indiana the games aren't shown on FSN-Ohio. But, when I ordered FSN-South I'm blacked out because I'm "outside of the SEC region." I didn't start to panic yet. Surely Wave 3 was carrying the game delayed. Afterall, the schedule on Ukathletics.com said it would be on delayed basis. But, just to be safe I e-mail Wave. They told me that since 85% of the area saw the game live they will not pre-empt coverage.

You are a man of higher education, I think you can connect the dots. I'm the type of fan who wants to cry after every loss, I've supported this team with everything I have for so long but, you're losing me here Mitch. How can I continue to line the University's pockets when you turned your back on me???? I'm not even 100 miles from Lexington!!! Who was responsible for researching this deal??? You had to know this was coming, I guess you just didn't care. Please, don't blame ESPN for any of this. If you did ANY research before you signed this deal you would've seen this coming.

Finally, I leave you with something to chew on. You spent a few thousand dollars for a billboard space in the same town that I live in. I can see that billboard from my house but, I can't see the 'Cats on TV. THANKS A MILLION.

Signed,

Matt Heintzman

i'll let you know if anything comes back

heatwave13

11-28-2005, 09:19 PM

Folks, all the pissin' and moanin' isn't gonna change the situation at this point. Do you all really KNOW that Mitch is responsible for black-outs? Maybe there is a stipulation in the contract that allows for flexibility or other arbitrary decisions to be made by the networks? I don't know for sure, but some folks act like Mitch is running the frickin control room of the fox network, pushing all the buttons and working the controls. Let's just stop moanin, crying, and acting like the bully took away your toyand turn on the frickin radio if you don't get the game on tv.

Wildcat Larry

11-28-2005, 09:42 PM

Thanks for the advice ....... I think. :?

UK7titles

11-29-2005, 12:54 AM

blueheretic

11-29-2005, 02:10 AM

Damn that Mitch....I didn't get to see the game either!!! :shock:

Spanish Moss

11-29-2005, 05:09 AM

FCFS82 wrote: This is one of those times when if UK basketball affects your life to the point that you fire off three emails bitching about something out of his control, you might need to rethink your priorities in life.

Sign up for the FREE audio and listen to Tom Leach call the game.

Personally, if I were Mitch, I would announcea new deal like LSU has with Tiger Vision. Pay $29.95 a game for those outside your network. Deal?

And allow me to put my disclaimer here before everyone assumes I get every game under the sun: I dont get ESPN U. I listened to the West Virginia game just fine.

If it is still such a big deal, then move into Louisville. Period. End o' story.

Thank you for a voice of reason. Mitch is the whipping boy of choice for most UK fans. I don't know why anyone would want to be AD at Kentucky. It is a thankless job.

AlaCat

11-29-2005, 07:39 AM

300.000 thousand a year and all the "french benifits" is not exactly "thankless"

RaleighCat

11-29-2005, 08:13 AM

Florida Cracker and the rest, would you like to know why Mitch Barnhart is getting roasted over the TV situation? It's because at Kentucky, he has one primary responsibility- Keep the Basketball Program at championship level.

That's truly it. I consider Mitch's three primary concerns to be 1. Men's Basketball, 2. Men's Basketball Compliance, 3. Football. That's it. We're Kentucky, folks. Basketball is what defines us.

Check your calendars, it's 2005. Why should we have to sacrafice TV coverage of the number 1 basketball program in the nation in 200-freaking-5? It makes no sense. We as fans are getting less than we used to. Why can't we- why shouldn't we- complain? I'm not getting as many games on TV as the past few seasons and I'm ticked off. Mitch is the Top Cat in UK athletics and the buck stops with him.

Personally, it's crap like this- and the failed Rich Brooks experiement- that make me worry about the future under Mitch Barnhart. If he can't improve our TV coverage, what makes you think he could handle a new coaching search if it ever came to that? Should Tubby leave for some reason I don't trust Barnhart to improve our program. It's that simple to me. He certainly hasn't improved football and he hasn't improved the basketball TV situation.

UK7titles

11-29-2005, 08:52 AM

FCFS82 wrote: This is one of those times when if UK basketball affects your life to the point that you fire off three emails bitching about something out of his control, you might need to rethink your priorities in life.

its not out of his control. HE SIGNED THE CONTRACT. he did it. its worse now than before. BECAUSE OF HIM.

ditch mitch. and lord help us if he ever has to hire a basketball coach. the guy somehow screwed up a TV contract. but hey, we got priority on AM radio.:?

matt57

11-29-2005, 10:51 AM

RaleighCat wrote: Florida Cracker and the rest, would you like to know why Mitch Barnhart is getting roasted over the TV situation? It's because at Kentucky, he has one primary responsibility- Keep the Basketball Program at championship level.

That's truly it. I consider Mitch's three primary concerns to be 1. Men's Basketball, 2. Men's Basketball Compliance, 3. Football. That's it. We're Kentucky, folks. Basketball is what defines us.

Check your calendars, it's 2005. Why should we have to sacrafice TV coverage of the number 1 basketball program in the nation in 200-freaking-5? It makes no sense. We as fans are getting less than we used to. Why can't we- why shouldn't we- complain? I'm not getting as many games on TV as the past few seasons and I'm ticked off. Mitch is the Top Cat in UK athletics and the buck stops with him.

Personally, it's crap like this- and the failed Rich Brooks experiement- that make me worry about the future under Mitch Barnhart. If he can't improve our TV coverage, what makes you think he could handle a new coaching search if it ever came to that? Should Tubby leave for some reason I don't trust Barnhart to improve our program. It's that simple to me. He certainly hasn't improved football and he hasn't improved the basketball TV situation.

THANK YOU......

and please don't tell me i need to get my priorities straight. you know nothing about me so for you to even claim that i need to get my priorities straight is absurd. this is the age of technology, this deal was supposed to mean MORE coverage, why in the world am i getting LESS???? this is the question i have not gotten any answer to. and probably never will.

JDHoss

11-29-2005, 02:57 PM

heatwave13 wrote: Folks, all the pissin' and moanin' isn't gonna change the situation at this point. Do you all really KNOW that Mitch is responsible for black-outs? Maybe there is a stipulation in the contract that allows for flexibility or other arbitrary decisions to be made by the networks? I don't know for sure, but some folks act like Mitch is running the frickin control room of the fox network, pushing all the buttons and working the controls. Let's just stop moanin, crying, and acting like the bully took away your toyand turn on the frickin radio if you don't get the game on tv.

I've been LMAO at some of the people on here. I came in from a hs football game Friday night, and rewound the tape to watch it, only to see Georgia Tech vs somebody. I said something like "well *bleep*, cut the VCR off, and got online to check the outcome of the game. I checked out the results, quotes, notes, and a few posts at different message boards, then I went to bed. No big deal, because it was a meaningless early season game against a nobody. I didn't get the WVU game because I don't get ESPNU, so I clicked on the UK website and tuned in....no big deal.

Some of you need a reality check. I remember the days when my dad & I tuned into the radio to hear the games, with an occasional magical televised game on Saturday, most of which were so snowy you could hardly tell who was who. It's sickening, but we've become a nation of entitled brats, needing to point a finger and cry whenever we don't get what we want......

matt57

11-29-2005, 03:06 PM

JDHoss wrote: heatwave13 wrote: Folks, all the pissin' and moanin' isn't gonna change the situation at this point. Do you all really KNOW that Mitch is responsible for black-outs? Maybe there is a stipulation in the contract that allows for flexibility or other arbitrary decisions to be made by the networks? I don't know for sure, but some folks act like Mitch is running the frickin control room of the fox network, pushing all the buttons and working the controls. Let's just stop moanin, crying, and acting like the bully took away your toyand turn on the frickin radio if you don't get the game on tv.

I've been LMAO at some of the people on here. I came in from a hs football game Friday night, and rewound the tape to watch it, only to see Georgia Tech vs somebody. I said something like "well *bleep*, cut the VCR off, and got online to check the outcome of the game. I checked out the results, quotes, notes, and a few posts at different message boards, then I went to bed. No big deal, because it was a meaningless early season game against a nobody. I didn't get the WVU game because I don't get ESPNU, so I clicked on the UK website and tuned in....no big deal.

Some of you need a reality check. I remember the days when my dad & I tuned into the radio to hear the games, with an occasional magical televised game on Saturday, most of which were so snowy you could hardly tell who was who. It's sickening, but we've become a nation of entitled brats, needing to point a finger and cry whenever we don't get what we want......

LOL, it is 2005 when you live less than 100 miles away from where a game is being played you shouldn't have to listen to it on radio.

this 2005-not the 60's, 70's, 80's, or even 90's.....there's your reality check.

btw, if all of these games are SO MEANINGLESS like some of you imply. why do you watch them????

JDHoss

11-29-2005, 04:34 PM

matt57 wrote: JDHoss wrote: heatwave13 wrote: Folks, all the pissin' and moanin' isn't gonna change the situation at this point. Do you all really KNOW that Mitch is responsible for black-outs? Maybe there is a stipulation in the contract that allows for flexibility or other arbitrary decisions to be made by the networks? I don't know for sure, but some folks act like Mitch is running the frickin control room of the fox network, pushing all the buttons and working the controls. Let's just stop moanin, crying, and acting like the bully took away your toyand turn on the frickin radio if you don't get the game on tv.

I've been LMAO at some of the people on here. I came in from a hs football game Friday night, and rewound the tape to watch it, only to see Georgia Tech vs somebody. I said something like "well *bleep*, cut the VCR off, and got online to check the outcome of the game. I checked out the results, quotes, notes, and a few posts at different message boards, then I went to bed. No big deal, because it was a meaningless early season game against a nobody. I didn't get the WVU game because I don't get ESPNU, so I clicked on the UK website and tuned in....no big deal.

Some of you need a reality check. I remember the days when my dad & I tuned into the radio to hear the games, with an occasional magical televised game on Saturday, most of which were so snowy you could hardly tell who was who. It's sickening, but we've become a nation of entitled brats, needing to point a finger and cry whenever we don't get what we want......

LOL, it is 2005 when you live less than 100 miles away from where a game is being played you shouldn't have to listen to it on radio.

this 2005-not the 60's, 70's, 80's, or even 90's.....there's your reality check.

btw, if all of these games are SO MEANINGLESS like some of you imply. why do you watch them????

If I lived within 100 miles, the games I didn't attend in person would be few and far between. And yes, the game was meaningless, which is why I taped it, and instead went to see a high school football game. Wringing your hands over a game against Libertythis time of year is like worrying about who is leading after 5 laps of the Coca Cola 600. I would have liked to have seen the game because I enjoy watching the Cats, but I'm not going to whine about it like many here. You can spin this until the cows come home, but you know you've overreacted.....

matt57

11-29-2005, 05:24 PM

Ugggh NO!, i'm not overreacting. i work secon shift therefore i can get to rupp.

RaleighCat

11-30-2005, 07:44 AM

FCFS82 wrote: RaleighCat wrote: Florida Cracker and the rest, would you like to know why Mitch Barnhart is getting roasted over the TV situation? It's because at Kentucky, he has one primary responsibility- Keep the Basketball Program at championship level.

That's truly it. I consider Mitch's three primary concerns to be 1. Men's Basketball, 2. Men's Basketball Compliance, 3. Football. That's it. We're Kentucky, folks. Basketball is what defines us.

Wholly incorrect. He is the University of Kentucky ATHLETICS director. His duties are to serve *all* sports. Sure, football and basketball are the bell cows, but UK being available for every telecast ranks well below some other duties...fundraising, etc.

About the Cats on TV, I guess I am a child of the probation year in which you could only listen to Cawood Ledford and before that basketball coverage was minimum. I guess I am not a complete child of ESPN so I dont expect to see the Cats play the Sisters of the Blindon the "Ocho". Just me...

I've been following the Cats intensely since the '78 season. I'm no "old timer" but I'm not a "complete child of ESPN either."

You obviously don't know much about big time college athletic departments. If you think Mitch Barnhart is paid $300,000+ a year to personally supervise the development of Women's Volleyball, Men's Wrestling, Golf, Full Contact Chess, etc., you don't have a clue. Kentucky's athletic department is filled with bright young talented Associate AD's who handle the non-revenue sports. It's that way at every major Div. 1 program. Mitch was handed the keys to the greatest basketball program in the country and his PRIMARY JOB is to manage Basketball first, Football second.

Again, it's 2005. I'm seeing fewer UK games on TV than in years past. It's more convenient for me to Tivo them and watch later in the evening. Even listening to the game live, while not difficult, is challenging for my schedule. Shouldn't be this way in 2005. Shouldn't be this way with UK basketball.

I'm certainly old enough to remember when we ruled the college basketball landscape.