Jones blog... Monday... good stuff!

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http://blog.kentuckysportsradio.com/?p=1175

[Will Lavender]

You would THINK that if UK hasn't convinced Patterson yet, they ain't going to. But it doesn't hurt to try. Let's just hope they don't send Rigot down there. (Kidding!)

Interesting tease about Moses. I'm interested to see what he says.

And :? to Brick Oettinger. I'm almost positive Brick blasted D. Jasper last year. (It was one of our freshman, anyway.) Again: a UNC guy, like Jeff Goodman (who's notorious for blasting UK). I hope we smash the Heels by about 50.

[Littlemeyer]

Good stuff as always.

This is shaping up to be a very interesting week. Regardless of what happens, it is going to be exciting.

I like the moves we're (they're) making on Patterson. If...IF...Patterson goes elsewhere, it will certainly NOT be because of a lack of effort on our (their) part.

[trublue4life]

Question? When Matt says Episode 13 will be available at noon today what exactly does he mean? Is there somewhere to go listen to a broadcast or is he talking about posting something on the blog? I've only read the blog postings that are linked on this board but if he's interviewing Moses today and the other stuff he talked about I would love to hear it. Any help is appreciated?

[Littlemeyer]

I've wondered that too, trublue. There are links to the first ten episodes (which are great to listen to, btw) on the right side of the page, but I can't find 11-13.

[ukbob]

What I think is a strange turn of events in light of the Patterson delays.....Marshall Moses has just become the must get recruit for Smith, IMO.

[KapitalCat]

ukbob wrote: What I think is a strange turn of events in light of the Patterson delays.....Marshall Moses has just become the must get recruit for Smith, IMO.

I agree Bob. If KY gets both Moses and Harris, I would cut Patterson loose and look around this spring for someone under the radar that can post up and get a rebound.

[VIIBanners]

the radio show is up...very funny. Good interview with Moses.

[sojourner]

KapitalCat wrote: ukbob wrote: What I think is a strange turn of events in light of the Patterson delays.....Marshall Moses has just become the must get recruit for Smith, IMO.

I agree Bob. If KY gets both Moses and Harris, I would cut Patterson loose and look around this spring for someone under the radar that can post up and get a rebound.


Why cut Patterson loose? Under your scenario I would hold the one scholarship for the spring for either Patterson OR the other person who pops up. You are in a no lose situationso don't cut off your nose to spite your face. We may still get Patterson and to summarily stop recruiting him smacks of childishness.

As I recall we did not Morris until the very last second.

[ukbob]

No way you stop recruiting PP, IMO. However, if you get Moses in the camp, then you can wait on PP. And if PP goes to UF, then you fill in the gap with the best player left...or not.

[Terry L. Wildcat]

VIIBanners wrote: the radio show is up...very funny. Good interview with Moses.

:questionCan you listen to it on line?

[bevcat]

On TCP there is an quote by Patterson talking about how his parents will follow him to Gainesville if he should decide to go to Fla. Basically he said the only problem committing to Fla. would cause would be the distance it would be between his family and his grandparents.

Let's face it, sounds like PP is exploring the possibility of playing in Fla. Could the delay in committing be that his parents are looking for transfers or jobs in the area? Just doesn't sound good for UK that's for sure!

[trublue4life]

Terry L. Wildcat wrote: VIIBanners wrote: the radio show is up...very funny. Good interview with Moses.

:questionCan you listen to it on line?
Go to the site and the opening box has a link to Episode 13. It takes a while for it to download to your computer so give it some time once you click on it. It will start playing as soon as it finishes downloading. It's good stuff. I WANT MARSHALL MOSES IN WILDCAT BLUE!

[BigBlueTude]

I realize I am a bit...... retentive when it comes to our recruiting.

I am officially getting a little worried. If you look at the top 150...it is getting smaller, and smaller everyday.

It bothers me to look at the top 50, and see Florida with 5 top 50 recruits. Currently, we have 1 top 100 in Aj Stewart.

I am not a Tubby basher, in fact I really like Tubby. I am just very nervous at the prospects of laying an egg in this class. I love last years class, but we need another to follow up. Two back to back would give us a strong support for the next few years.

I am just a little worried. Hopefully Jai Lucas will come on down this week, as well as Moses..looks like Spring for PP.

I know there are diamonds in the rough out there, and guys that the "gurus" just miss on, but by and large they are usually correct about these guys.We shall see at the end of the week!

[Will Lavender]

BigBlueTude wrote: I realize I am a bit...... retentive when it comes to our recruiting.

I am officially getting a little worried. If you look at the top 150...it is getting smaller, and smaller everyday.

It bothers me to look at the top 50, and see Florida with 5 top 50 recruits. Currently, we have 1 top 100 in Aj Stewart.

I am not a Tubby basher, in fact I really like Tubby. I am just very nervous at the prospects of laying an egg in this class. I love last years class, but we need another to follow up. Two back to back would give us a strong support for the next few years.

I am just a little worried. Hopefully Jai Lucas will come on down this week, as well as Moses..looks like Spring for PP.

I know there are diamonds in the rough out there, and guys that the "gurus" just miss on, but by and large they are usually correct about these guys.We shall see at the end of the week!

I'm with you. We need an impact 3 and 4 in this class. The chances of a high-profile 3 are lookingnil -- unless Ramon Harris surprises -- which leaves us with...Patrick Patterson.

I've said all along that if Tubby doesn't sign Patterson then he will resign at season's end. Obviously, if this team goes to a Final Four then that won't hold. But if this team suffers some bad luck and that gets coupled with Tubby's inability to sign a big-time PF (again), then...

:nada:

With all this said, Jai Lucas would be agreat get for this staff. Yes, he's not our main target, but he's a good player with a good pedigree, and point guards win championships in college basketball. So let's hope the staff can pull in Jai, which would mean two top 100 players signed.

[BigBlueTude]

I agree. I am pulling for him, and Mitch says that he will leave when he is good and ready to leave. I hope that is the case but if we lose 10 or more again, and follow that up with a poor NCAA showing, it could happen.

I just dont want to be the Florida State of the basketball world. Bowden is losing to everybody, and a program that was once feared is a laughing stock now.

That could be us in b-ball if we do not get it done on the recruiting trail!

Keep our fingers crossed ,BUT HOW can the University of KENTUCKY NOT get a 4 WHEN THERE IS ALL THE PLAYING TIME ANYONE CAN HANDLE??

[BigblueDrew]

Will Lavender wrote: BigBlueTude wrote: I realize I am a bit...... retentive when it comes to our recruiting.

I am officially getting a little worried. If you look at the top 150...it is getting smaller, and smaller everyday.

It bothers me to look at the top 50, and see Florida with 5 top 50 recruits. Currently, we have 1 top 100 in Aj Stewart.

I am not a Tubby basher, in fact I really like Tubby. I am just very nervous at the prospects of laying an egg in this class. I love last years class, but we need another to follow up. Two back to back would give us a strong support for the next few years.

I am just a little worried. Hopefully Jai Lucas will come on down this week, as well as Moses..looks like Spring for PP.

I know there are diamonds in the rough out there, and guys that the "gurus" just miss on, but by and large they are usually correct about these guys.We shall see at the end of the week!

I'm with you. We need an impact 3 and 4 in this class. The chances of a high-profile 3 are lookingnil -- unless Ramon Harris surprises -- which leaves us with...Patrick Patterson.

I've said all along that if Tubby doesn't sign Patterson then he will resign at season's end. Obviously, if this team goes to a Final Four then that won't hold. But if this team suffers some bad luck and that gets coupled with Tubby's inability to sign a big-time PF (again), then...

:nada:

With all this said, Jai Lucas would be agreat get for this staff. Yes, he's not our main target, but he's a good player with a good pedigree, and point guards win championships in college basketball. So let's hope the staff can pull in Jai, which would mean two top 100 players signed.

There is something very WRONG in Lexington. I don't know what it is but I know it is. When Kentucky REPEATEDLY misses out on top 50 players in positions where IMMEDIATE playing time is available, THERE IS SOMETHING wrong. This has been going on for years and I just don't understand it at all. Tubby OBVIOUSLY needs help with his recruiting and fast.

[CatFanInTheBathtub]

uf will (most likely) lose4 of top 5 players,

we will (most likely) lose 1.

But if you want to scream and cry, go ahead

[Wildcatstyle]

Just out of curiousity, don't people on here think that it is not the team or the sysytem, but maybe the location. Alot of the kids we lose are going to colleges near beaches and such...ex: North Carolina, Florida, etc...Now picture yourself at 18 and NOT a DIEHARD Kentucky fan, which would have more appeal to you? I'm a Big Blue fan and it would be a very tough decision for me...lol..tradition or bikinis?

[audacious1]

ukbob wrote: No way you stop recruiting PP, IMO. However, if you get Moses in the camp, then you can wait on PP. And if PP goes to UF, then you fill in the gap with the best player left...or not.

ukbob knows his stuff. I agree!

[patpat4three]

Wildcatstyle wrote: Just out of curiousity, don't people on here think that it is not the team or the sysytem, but maybe the location. Alot of the kids we lose are going to colleges near beaches and such...ex: North Carolina, Florida, etc...Now picture yourself at 18 and NOT a DIEHARD Kentucky fan, which would have more appeal to you? I'm a Big Blue fan and it would be a very tough decision for me...lol..tradition or bikinis?
I think thats bogus cause there will be hott girls at any college campus that you go to in america .. and hellooo have u seen the girls that are at uk:D... im lookin forward to next year:ggrin:

[RaleighCat]

Good gravy folks, not the "location excuse" again. Storrs. CT is no paradise. Nor is Manhattan, KS (recently). East Lansing, MI...etc, etc. Save the geography excuse for those that don't want to see the reality that is Tubby's recruiting. Coffee is for closers, so to speak.

Here we sit AGAIN, watching the elite HS prospects sign elsewhere. Sure, we have a very exciting freshmen class getting ready to debut- but not much in the way of great talent ready to join them. Where have we seen this before.....

Carter/Sims on the heels of Rondo/Morris/Crawford/Bradley. Where is the recruiting momentum great programs enjoy? Why can't Tubby convince elite HS players that we're building something special in Lexington?

Patterson might still become a Wildcat- and I'll be a very happy Cat fan if that happens. Jai Lucas, too. But even with Patterson and/or Lucasin the fold there's no ignoring the FACT that UK has gone deeeeeeep into the recruiting season with little to show for it. AGAIN. Other schools seem to have top talent clammoring to sign early. Kentucky seems lucky to stay on the radar. This inconsistency will eventually choke a program.

[Wildcatstyle]

I don't disagree with PatPat that KY has its wealth of hotties, but there is a reason Floridais a hotter destination spot than KY, the beaches and oceans. I guess your right..."Location" would have nothing to do with an 18 year olds decision on where they would like to live.:rolleyes:

[winchestercat]

ukbob wrote: No way you stop recruiting PP, IMO. However, if you get Moses in the camp, then you can wait on PP. And if PP goes to UF, then you fill in the gap with the best player left...or not.





Moses isn't the player Patterson is. getting moses and finding whoever is left over isn't what we need imo. Patterson is a must get for this program and for tubby. moses is a two star is i recall and has alot to work on from the videos that i saw a while ago....

[winchestercat]

RaleighCat wrote: Good gravy folks, not the "location excuse" again. Storrs. CT is no paradise. Nor is Manhattan, KS (recently). East Lansing, MI...etc, etc. Save the geography excuse for those that don't want to see the reality that is Tubby's recruiting. Coffee is for closers, so to speak.


Sadly, i have to agree. It seems that people are bringing up location now for some reason, as if all those 50 plus years when we were supposedly an elite programwas just an abberation of sorts, and now people are realizing that there are beaches and warm weather and women in florida ? just seems like a grasping for straws to me, same rationale about getting moses and being lucky to get whoever i s left over, if and when patterson goes elsewhere..the buck must stop with coachsmith sooner rather than later on this issues.....

[justford]

Say we get PP. How long will he stay? Might be a lot of fuss over a guy that leaves after one year.:shrug:

[RaleighCat]

justford wrote: Say we get PP. How long will he stay? Might be a lot of fuss over a guy that leaves after one year.:shrug:

Then we take one potentially stellar year from a player and move on. One-n-done players are a reality now with the NBA age limit. Some are worth the risk, others not. It's that way with almost every player today.

Greg Oden at Ohio State might not even play one full season for the Buckeyes. He's definitely out when they travel to Chapel Hill to face the Heels. That alone probably guarantees a UNC win in prime time on ESPN. But ask any OSU fan if they think Oden is worth it?

[VIIBanners]

RaleighCat wrote: justford wrote: Say we get PP. How long will he stay? Might be a lot of fuss over a guy that leaves after one year.:shrug:

Then we take one potentially stellar year from a player and move on. One-n-done players are a reality now with the NBA age limit. Some are worth the risk, others not. It's that way with almost every player today.

Greg Oden at Ohio State might not even play one full season for the Buckeyes. He's definitely out when they travel to Chapel Hill to face the Heels. That alone probably guarantees a UNC win in prime time on ESPN. But ask any OSU fan if they think Oden is worth it?
I agree RC....but he is probably a two or three year player from all of the notoriously inaccurate and opinion laden info I have read around the boards.lol

[Littlemeyer]

Who knows what'll happen with Patterson. He may come here, give us one great year and bolt to the NBA.

He may come in and give us 3, even 4 solid seasons.

Or, he may come here and be a complete bust.

Regardless, I WANT to get him here, if for no other reason than to show that we CAN still recruit. We've put a lot of time and effort into Mr. Patterson, and I want to see us close the deal. Others have said that he is a must-get for Tubby Smith. I agree with the others.

[justford]

I am all for PP playing at UK but will his signing have positives or negatives for us signing another PF?A potential recruit may say I can't get playing time there because of PP or will the recruit say, PP will be leaving soon and I can move into his position??

[Wildcat97]

Wildcatstyle wrote: I don't disagree with PatPat that KY has its wealth of hotties, but there is a reason Floridais a hotter destination spot than KY, the beaches and oceans. I guess your right..."Location" would have nothing to do with an 18 year olds decision on where they would like to live.:rolleyes:
Glad to see this in a locigal light. Said this for years...it IS a very valid reason for many. KY is still considered nationally as a backasward, racistand hick state. Storrs is not great, but it is seen as a modern location comparatively. Add the ESPN deluge for the ACC and Big East and regardless of the history and traditions, we began to take a backseat to some inferior (IMO) programs.