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Radiated
11-22-2006, 10:50 PM
Put in the athletes. Put in the ball handlers, run the floor, push it. We have nothing at the 4. Turn it into a guard oriented lineup.

Jasper, Bradley, Crawford, Meeks, Morris

What could it hurt?

Blue Heaven
11-23-2006, 03:34 AM
I totally agree:thumbupit's obvious we don't have the muscle so why not show off the Thoroughbreds? As long as Sheray don't see another minute, I like the small line-up:lol:

catfando
11-23-2006, 07:25 AM
How about replacing Bradley with Porter. At least Porter plays within himself and not out of control.

WildkatBuckeye
11-23-2006, 08:04 AM
I dont think they need to "go smaller". Insert Jasper and Stevenson with Crawford, Morris, andBradley.With the Ball, Jasper is the one. On Defense, let Ramel guard the 1 and drop Jasper to the 3. PutMorris in the lane if running a zone or let him guard the other teams weakest post player tohelp him avoid foul trouble.5 games in 8 days with along flight across numerous time zones...2 losses to top ten teams. Its okay!!! I wouldrather see them play this type of schedule rather than the ones alot of other teams who are 5-0 have played. This is gettting the freshman introduced quickly...BUT Bradley must be replaced at the point when UK has the ball, Perry needsa more limited role, AND SHERAY THOMAS NEEDS TO QUIT PLAYING, PERIOD. ALL HE DOES IS SHOOT 3's AND HE CANT SHOOT!

lribookend
11-23-2006, 09:03 AM
Radiated wrote: Put in the athletes. Put in the ball handlers, run the floor, push it. We have nothing at the 4. Turn it into a guard oriented lineup.

Jasper, Bradley, Crawford, Meeks, Morris

What could it hurt?



HHMM, let's see.....we got killed in the rebounding department, and couldn't stop Memphis from scoring in the paint....so let's put in smaller players to fix the problem. Not sure I understand the logic. Are you only talking about offense? Memphis was blocking our shots as it was. Put in your lineup, and the same result would have occurred against Memphis. Maybe against a smaller/weaker opponent your suggestion would work. Against UCLA and Memphis, not a chance.

ukbob
11-23-2006, 09:07 AM
Iwould hate to go back to the Crawford at 3 again. It doesn't work. It never did. However, JC needs to play.

I like Bradley and I really thought he was going to get it done, but I may be wrong.

I say you play your Frosh and take the lumps for the future, which is in March.

-Jasper to the point. No shooter by any means, but plays hard and REBOUNDS.
-Crawford and Bradley at the 2G. Play 3 guards. We need their offense.
-Stevenson at the 3/4. Just play him until he learns. Run plays for him to get him confidence in the offense.
-Morris at the 5. Feed him until he gets full.

Perry is your 6th man for Stevenson.
Porter subs for Jasper.
Meeks is your sub for Bradley/JC.
Woo for Morris. Set some screens for his jumper. He can hit them.

Thomas whenever, but not often.

Hope like hell that Harris has some game.

We might die more than live with this rotation, but the experience may pay off later.

I see no other choices, but I doubt OTS thinks this way.

NOWIS
11-23-2006, 09:25 AM
ukbob wrote: Iwould hate to go back to the Crawford at 3 again. It doesn't work. It never did. However, JC needs to play.

I like Bradley and I really thought he was going to get it done, but I may be wrong.

I say you play your Frosh and take the lumps for the future, which is in March.

-Jasper to the point. No shooter by any means, but plays hard and REBOUNDS.
-Crawford and Bradley at the 2G. Play 3 guards. We need their offense.
-Stevenson at the 3/4. Just play him until he learns. Run plays for him to get him confidence in the offense.
-Morris at the 5. Feed him until he gets full.

Perry is your 6th man for Stevenson.
Porter subs for Jasper.
Meeks is your sub for Bradley/JC.
Woo for Morris. Set some screens for his jumper. He can hit them.

Thomas whenever, but not often.

Hope like hell that Harris has some game.

We might die more than live with this rotation, but the experience may pay off later.

I see no other choices, but I doubt OTS thinks this way.

BigBlue41042
11-24-2006, 05:08 PM
No, unfortunately Tubby seems to think that we need the senior leadership from Bobby and Sheray. Nevermind the deficit in athleticism that we must overcome when they are in there.

I'd rather see our best athletes on the floor, even if they are young and a little raw.

On the positive side, we actually do have some athletes this year! Meeks and Jasper can matchup with anyone, Stevenson has natural talent, and Porter plays hard and smart...

Spanish Moss
11-24-2006, 05:15 PM
I like the team that puts the five best playes on the floor.

ukbob, just listed the five best

Jasper to the point. No shooter by any means, but plays hard and REBOUNDS.
-Crawford and Bradley at the 2G. Play 3 guards. We need their offense.
-Stevenson at the 3/4. Just play him until he learns. Run plays for him to get him confidence in the offense.
-Morris at the 5. Feed him until he gets full.

That team would get better and better and by the time the SEC rolls around would be a good ball club.

UkFanatic
11-24-2006, 08:25 PM
ukbob wrote: Iwould hate to go back to the Crawford at 3 again. It doesn't work. It never did. However, JC needs to play.

I like Bradley and I really thought he was going to get it done, but I may be wrong.

I say you play your Frosh and take the lumps for the future, which is in March.

-Jasper to the point. No shooter by any means, but plays hard and REBOUNDS.
-Crawford and Bradley at the 2G. Play 3 guards. We need their offense.
-Stevenson at the 3/4. Just play him until he learns. Run plays for him to get him confidence in the offense.
-Morris at the 5. Feed him until he gets full.

Perry is your 6th man for Stevenson.
Porter subs for Jasper.
Meeks is your sub for Bradley/JC.
Woo for Morris. Set some screens for his jumper. He can hit them.

Thomas whenever, but not often.

Hope like hell that Harris has some game.

We might die more than live with this rotation, but the experience may pay off later.

I see no other choices, but I doubt OTS thinks this way.

I like this line up alot and if we change up our matchups on D i think it could work. Joe's biggest problem on D was he gave up a lot of height to the SFs he guarded. If we have Jasper guard the 3 i think it could work. He is a lot longer than Joe and more athletic so i think he would guard the position well. I think it will help joe on offense as well since he will be guarded by players not as quick as 2 guards and should be able to shoot around them pretty well. Jasper running the show helps out the O as well since he can setup Joe and Ramel for the three and his height should help with him get the entry pass into Randolph. Lets just hope he throws it with two hands. :D

cnice11
11-26-2006, 04:13 PM
thats the first time someone has agreed with what I have said. Thats the solution to the point guard spot, Porter. I love Bradley, but I think he needs to start at the 2, he's simply has the scorer's mentality. But, at least he can shoot, which is more than we can say about a certain person that started last year.

ukjp72
11-26-2006, 06:20 PM
Radiated wrote: Put in the athletes. Put in the ball handlers, run the floor, push it. We have nothing at the 4. Turn it into a guard oriented lineup.

Jasper, Bradley, Crawford, Meeks, Morris

What could it hurt?




A four guard lineup would definately be a treat to watch. But i believe that we are too young to pull something like that off. Granted, we do have the talent and the athleticism, but the maturity level is still a little too low considering our rebounding. Once our new freshmen settle in, learn the routines by heart, they will start taking higher percentage shots, better ball movement and lower our need for the offensive rebounds thus giving Tubby the "option" of going to the four guard lineup if needed. It very well could be a possibility next season after our freshmen get a year under their belts and that could mean big numbers for Morris if our guards are shooting the lights out.

Will Lavender
11-26-2006, 08:42 PM
lribookend wrote: Radiated wrote: Put in the athletes. Put in the ball handlers, run the floor, push it. We have nothing at the 4. Turn it into a guard oriented lineup.

Jasper, Bradley, Crawford, Meeks, Morris

What could it hurt?



HHMM, let's see.....we got killed in the rebounding department, and couldn't stop Memphis from scoring in the paint....so let's put in smaller players to fix the problem. Not sure I understand the logic. Are you only talking about offense? Memphis was blocking our shots as it was. Put in your lineup, and the same result would have occurred against Memphis. Maybe against a smaller/weaker opponent your suggestion would work. Against UCLA and Memphis, not a chance.
The reason we're getting beat on the boards is because we're always out of position defensively. With the exception of a couple of stretches in the Memphis game, we're holding our own on the defensive glass. It's the offensive glass that we were pummelled on.

The problem is we're having to scramble to help on defense and so our opponent has a pretty easy path to the basket. If our perimeter defenders can keep their guy out of the lane (big if), then our rebounding issues will go away, I think, even if we "go small."

And I like ukbob's line-up. I'm not too worried about Joe at the 3, because, as it turns out, Joe can't guard shooting guards, either. :?

I SERIOUSLY doubt Tubby takes Bobby out of the line-up, though. Nor will he take Ramel off the point this early in the season. We might want to revisit this discussion again in January.

BigBlueTude
11-27-2006, 01:04 PM
UKBOB



That is a very solid post! I think you have something. I say play the young guys even Porter, take your losses now and prepare for the future.

Bradley needs to come off the bench for Joe at the 2.... The bad thing is his swagger and ego would not allow him to do that, and he would become a disruptive force. I like Perry coming off the bench as well. He is a mid-major player, and not a starter at the high D-1 level.



JC has to stay at the 2, and I dont know how you solve your problems at the 3 and the 4. UNC will expose us as we have been exposed by Memphis, and UCLA. They just dribble penerate and whip us off the dribble. I saw NO rotation/help defense in the UCLA game or the Memphis game. I do think you will see much better defense from us but we just will not be able to match athletes with them. I think we play them close and lose by 8 or so(UNC)

Teams are doubling down on Morris, and he has no oneto kick to that is a scoring force inside. Thomas cannot get it done inside, and only hits the occasional 10/12 foot jumper from the side(in between air balls). Perry is just so thin, and has not developed his O game yet. We are gonna take some butt beatings this year, but I am hopeful that we can improve and make a run late. Tubby can x and o with the best of them. I expect he will do the same this year...time will tell.

CaliUKFan
11-27-2006, 01:20 PM
WildkatBuckeye wrote: I dont think they need to "go smaller". Insert Jasper and Stevenson with Crawford, Morris, andBradley.With the Ball, Jasper is the one. On Defense, let Ramel guard the 1 and drop Jasper to the 3. PutMorris in the lane if running a zone or let him guard the other teams weakest post player tohelp him avoid foul trouble.5 games in 8 days with along flight across numerous time zones...2 losses to top ten teams. Its okay!!! I wouldrather see them play this type of schedule rather than the ones alot of other teams who are 5-0 have played. This is gettting the freshman introduced quickly...BUT Bradley must be replaced at the point when UK has the ball, Perry needsa more limited role, AND SHERAY THOMAS NEEDS TO QUIT PLAYING, PERIOD. ALL HE DOES IS SHOOT 3's AND HE CANT SHOOT!



I like the way you think...very ambitious but a good idea nevertheless

CaliUKFan
11-27-2006, 01:21 PM
lribookend wrote: Radiated wrote: Put in the athletes. Put in the ball handlers, run the floor, push it. We have nothing at the 4. Turn it into a guard oriented lineup.

Jasper, Bradley, Crawford, Meeks, Morris

What could it hurt?



HHMM, let's see.....we got killed in the rebounding department, and couldn't stop Memphis from scoring in the paint....so let's put in smaller players to fix the problem. Not sure I understand the logic. Are you only talking about offense? Memphis was blocking our shots as it was. Put in your lineup, and the same result would have occurred against Memphis. Maybe against a smaller/weaker opponent your suggestion would work. Against UCLA and Memphis, not a chance.


Also very true

CaliUKFan
11-27-2006, 01:23 PM
ukbob wrote: Iwould hate to go back to the Crawford at 3 again. It doesn't work. It never did. However, JC needs to play.

I like Bradley and I really thought he was going to get it done, but I may be wrong.

I say you play your Frosh and take the lumps for the future, which is in March.

-Jasper to the point. No shooter by any means, but plays hard and REBOUNDS.
-Crawford and Bradley at the 2G. Play 3 guards. We need their offense.
-Stevenson at the 3/4. Just play him until he learns. Run plays for him to get him confidence in the offense.
-Morris at the 5. Feed him until he gets full.

Perry is your 6th man for Stevenson.
Porter subs for Jasper.
Meeks is your sub for Bradley/JC.
Woo for Morris. Set some screens for his jumper. He can hit them.

Thomas whenever, but not often.

Hope like hell that Harris has some game.

We might die more than live with this rotation, but the experience may pay off later.

I see no other choices, but I doubt OTS thinks this way.

Is your idea similar to a Illinois a few years back?

Swimmer4uk
11-27-2006, 01:42 PM
Ithink you are ALL right.

Imeanat this point, what the hell right? We couldn't have played a worse 2nd half vs Memphis and we obviously cannot rebound either way. Our offensive rebounding is virtually non existent, so take away our liabilities in Sheray, B Perry and Woo. I like it! Interchange Morris with P Stevenson, only put in Woo when we need to give fouls.

Maybe the guards will actually move on offense. No one else will

teamchemistry09
11-27-2006, 03:41 PM
So this is a very good post I agree with that. But why would anyone think about taking Bobby Perry out of the starting lineup? I agree that DJas should be point and move Joe and Ramel down a spot but its got to be Bobby and Randy down low. Yes Stevenson can block shots and grab a few rebounds but he doesnt have the experience we need. He also lacks a TON of muscle that he needs to put on so he can guard guys like Big Baby and Mr. Noah at Florida. But you wont convince me that Perry Stevenson is ready to start and guard a Tyler like the one North Carolina has. If he starts like everyone wants him to and guards Tyler at all then he will get destroyed and the next night this post will be blown up with WHY DID PERRY STEVENSON GUARD HIM!!! TAKE HIM OUT AND PUT IN BOBBY PERRY!!!

Swimmer4uk
11-27-2006, 03:45 PM
teamchemistry07 wrote: So this is a very good post I agree with that. But why would anyone think about taking Bobby Perry out of the starting lineup?

I think it's b/c Bobby is pretty poor on D. He constantly blows his assignment and really just looks lost in transition. Rebounding is an issue too.I think we should expect about 5 or 6 more boards from someone at hisposition.

I really like how much he as improved the past year, but really when we have him on the floor, we are at a disadvantage to any team with a quality 3-4 spot.

teamchemistry09
11-27-2006, 10:37 PM
If Carter has improved as much as everyone says, he def moves into my starting 5. It should be DJas, Ramel, Joe, Randy, and Jared if hes that improved. If not then switch Carter for Bobby because we need his leadership on the court.