Why?

[catfan043]

Whydoes everybody blame Tubby when we lose... For the season we are under 70% shooting free throws, we have 73 turnovers, we were outrebounded 2-3 games in Maui and had the same amount against Depaul. These are things that no coach can control and are on the players, coaches can't shoot free throws and hold on to the ball for them...I'm not trying to bash our players either though because its early and they have alot of growing to do, I'm just saying that all this shouldnt be put on Tubby when all the little things are taking us out of these games.

[ukbob]

I blame Tubby for poor recruiting, not his coaching. We lost because we don't have the players necessary to accomplish what we set out to do.

[UderricKY]

1. Tubby is paid a lot of money to coach this team...and there is a mediocre product being put on the floor. With the amount of money that he is making he should take the blame.

I won't even talk about how well our players look running a half-court offense, which, once again, falls on the coach.

catfan043 wrote: Whydoes everybody blame Tubby when we lose... For the season we are under 70% shooting free throws, we have 73 turnovers, we were outrebounded 2-3 games in Maui and had the same amount against Depaul. These are things that no coach can control and are on the players, coaches can't shoot free throws and hold on to the ball for them...I'm not trying to bash our players either though because its early and they have alot of growing to do, I'm just saying that all this shouldnt be put on Tubby when all the little things are taking us out of these games.

[Spanish Moss]

catfan043 wrote: Whydoes everybody blame Tubby when we lose... For the season we are under 70% shooting free throws, we have 73 turnovers, we were outrebounded 2-3 games in Maui and had the same amount against Depaul. These are things that no coach can control and are on the players, coaches can't shoot free throws and hold on to the ball for them...I'm not trying to bash our players either though because its early and they have alot of growing to do, I'm just saying that all this shouldnt be put on Tubby when all the little things are taking us out of these games.

Tubby Smith is the Chief Executive Officer of Kentucky basketball. Why does the CEO of General Motors feel the heat when no one wants to buy his cars?

I think poor free throw shooting, poor rebounding and excessive turnovers are the responsibility of the coach.

[Gunsmoke]

Coach Smith makes some serious big blue bucks to coach the winningest college basketball program of all time. In my eyes we are declining while the other elite programs continue to climb. He recruits the players and coaches the players. If they are not up to par then it falls on his shoulders. If they are then he reaps the rewards and the praise..from me anyway. I won't dare speak for others.

[bigjeep]

A question; does Coach Smith recruit players that play his system or has he been pressured to recruit the type of player`s that fit the system the fans here want?

[wildcat74]

I blame tubby for taking a program with talent enough to get to 3 national championship games in a row, and dwindle it down in 10 years to one that is not even a top 20 program.

Do I think he is a decent x and o coach, yes... do I think he is a crappy recruiter, yes... do I think he is an exceptional coach for a 2nd tier program like tulsa or georgia, yes... do I think he is capable of leadingor sustaining a year after year top 10 program, he has shown that he is not.

[lighthouse]

One thing Tubby did in Maui, he played the freshmen because they were better. I think this sends a huge message to recruits, you come to Ky and if your better, you play.

[KapitalCat]

Its simple, the head coach is the guy who recruits the players, prepares them and coaches them. It is his job to get players and put then into a position to win. Bottom line when things go badly, the buck stops with the coach. That is just the way things are in life.

[Andrew]

catfan043 wrote: Whydoes everybody blame Tubby when we lose... For the season we are under 70% shooting free throws, we have 73 turnovers, we were outrebounded 2-3 games in Maui and had the same amount against Depaul. These are things that no coach can control and are on the players, coaches can't shoot free throws and hold on to the ball for them...I'm not trying to bash our players either though because its early and they have alot of growing to do, I'm just saying that all this shouldnt be put on Tubby when all the little things are taking us out of these games.It's his responsibility to:

recruit players that can do these things
teach the players how to
motivate them to do so
develop the player in order for them to be able to


If it isn't Tubby's fault, whose is it? Bill Keightley's?

[Terry L. Wildcat]

ukbob wrote: I blame Tubby for poor recruiting, not his coaching. We lost because we don't have the players necessary to accomplish what we set out to do.
That is it in a nut for me...we need forwards.

[NashvegasCATFAN]

catfan043 wrote: Whydoes everybody blame Tubby when we lose... For the season we are under 70% shooting free throws, we have 73 turnovers, we were outrebounded 2-3 games in Maui and had the same amount against Depaul. These are things that no coach can control and are on the players, coaches can't shoot free throws and hold on to the ball for them...I'm not trying to bash our players either though because its early and they have alot of growing to do, I'm just saying that all this shouldnt be put on Tubby when all the little things are taking us out of these games.Well before you go smack talking and crying why dont you make sure you have your facts straight. We are actually above 70 percent for the year actually 74%, which from last year is a drastic improvement. I think if you would sit back and look at what is going on instead of wasting your time crying you would realize we are getting better.

The team just has to learn how to play as a team again after last years RONDO then The Cats Show.

[catfan043]

NashvegasCATFAN wrote: catfan043 wrote: Whydoes everybody blame Tubby when we lose... For the season we are under 70% shooting free throws, we have 73 turnovers, we were outrebounded 2-3 games in Maui and had the same amount against Depaul. These are things that no coach can control and are on the players, coaches can't shoot free throws and hold on to the ball for them...I'm not trying to bash our players either though because its early and they have alot of growing to do, I'm just saying that all this shouldnt be put on Tubby when all the little things are taking us out of these games.Well before you go smack talking and crying why dont you make sure you have your facts straight. We are actually above 70 percent for the year actually 74%, which from last year is a drastic improvement. I think if you would sit back and look at what is going on instead of wasting your time crying you would realize we are getting better.

The team just has to learn how to play as a team again after last years RONDO then The Cats Show.
Your talking about me crying? Well what do you call all these posts(which consists of about 80% of theboards activity)about Tubby's poor recruiting there hotshot.

[NashvegasCATFAN]

catfan043 wrote: NashvegasCATFAN wrote: catfan043 wrote: Whydoes everybody blame Tubby when we lose... For the season we are under 70% shooting free throws, we have 73 turnovers, we were outrebounded 2-3 games in Maui and had the same amount against Depaul. These are things that no coach can control and are on the players, coaches can't shoot free throws and hold on to the ball for them...I'm not trying to bash our players either though because its early and they have alot of growing to do, I'm just saying that all this shouldnt be put on Tubby when all the little things are taking us out of these games.Well before you go smack talking and crying why dont you make sure you have your facts straight. We are actually above 70 percent for the year actually 74%, which from last year is a drastic improvement. I think if you would sit back and look at what is going on instead of wasting your time crying you would realize we are getting better.

The team just has to learn how to play as a team again after last years RONDO then The Cats Show.
Your talking about me crying? Well what do you call all these posts(which consists of about 80% of theboards activity)about Tubby's poor recruiting there hotshot.
Please show me one post...just one where I said anything about Tubby. Once again check the facts big guy. Whatever anyone else says is not my opinion only the ones with my name beside it. Which I have said not one thing about Tubby!

[ukbob]

Ease up folks. Be civil...please.

[catfan043]

I never said you did, I was talking about the board as a whole...Anyways how can you all say we dont have talent Morris, Crawford, Bradley,Jasper, Meeks,Stevenson, and Porter are all full of talent, they are just making a lot of head mistakes right now that are taking us out of games, theres nothing a coach can do about that, not any coach. Honestly i thinkexpectations for UK basketball has just got to high. Take Duke for example,with all the talent theyget every single year,in a span of 10 years they have been to3 final fours and one title and you dont hear fans blaming it all on Coach K, we have 3 final fours and two titles in that span. Im not trying to be the bad guy here, these are just my opinions, just like everybody else post theirs on here too.

[Littlemeyer]

This is my first post in a few days. Took some time off because I didn't want to come on here and be too negative. :cool:

The answer to your question: People are blaming Tubby because we're five games into the season, and we're 3-2. Even if we were 5-0, though, you'd see some fiery discussions on here if we weren't playing perfect. (Who does, I wonder?) It's a basketball discussion board, and quite frankly it would get a bit boring if all we did on here was spell "C-A-T-S" and say blue and white to each other.

We don't have the players we need to be as good as we'd all like us to be. That's a recruiting problem, and that's a head coach problem.

I absolutely LOVE the players we do have, and I think we're going to be a good team this year. This freshmen class is going to need help, either from the class above (Carter?), or next year's incoming frosh. (Williams? Stewart? Who else?)

The Memphis game does not concern me as much as it seems to be concerning the rest of my family. We played our third game in three days against a team that just wants to run, run, run. Not a good set-up for our guys. I like our chances against a team like that in a normal setting.

I'm sure I'll get called an "Apologist" for that remark, but its the truth. When the second-half rolled around, and we REALLY lost our legs, it was lay-up city. Not a pretty sight.

[Sir Richard F. Burton]

Many folks remark on Tubyy's "high" salary. The coach of The University of Kentucky Men's Basketabll program should be paid a salary equal to the coach at comparable basketball programs i.e UNC, Duke, Kansas, IU, UCLA.

If Tubby wind the final four or the national championship does his salary increase?