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HillbillyCat
11-24-2006, 09:54 AM
First of all COC has coach Cremins, the guy is a pretty good coach. COC is picked to WIN the south division of the Southern Conference this year. Last year they had a record of 17-11 with a 9-6 conference record. They return 4 starters, they are (with last years stats):

G------Draper @ 5-11, 180 18.5 ppg, 3.2 apg Senior

C------Jackson @ 6-8, 255 12.6 ppg, 5.8 rpg Junior

G/F---Lawrence @ 6-7, 185 9.3 ppg, 7 rpg Senior

F------Johnson @ 6-7, 250 8.9 ppg, 7.5 rpg Sophomore



they only lost starter Drew Hall (G) who was at 6.9 ppg and 5.2 apg

first 2 substitutes off the bench are also seniors @ 6-5, 225 and 6-9, 225



---what this little bit of info tells me is that this team has experience and probably will rebound the ball well. Looks like the perfect opportunity to have a starting lineup like a Morris, Obrzut, Stevenson, Crawford, Jasper....

Morris matches up well with Johnson

Obrzut with Jackson

Stevenson with the slender Lawrence

Crawford with the 2 guard

Jasper with the point, I don't know if Draper was the 2 or the point



I'd be deliberate about jerking people in and out quickly, however, when the time arose I would look at Meeks, Bradley, Porter, Perry and Thomas whatever the situation called for. I wouldn't put in wholesale substitutions every time either. I'd put in 1 or 2 at a time so these guys could keep the same flow in the game.



How would you guys approach this lineup that COC has with Cremins coaching???

DCWildcat
11-24-2006, 12:32 PM
I go to a Southern Conference school and follow it with almost the same fervor as I do UK (only I get to see 10x more games of SoCon play). Outside of the players and coaches of the SoCon, I doubt there's more than a dozen people who know the conference better than I do.

There's a good chance my analysis will be way off, since Cremins is returning as head coach, and might change some of the stuff we saw last year.

So here's my breakdown:

1) Everything starts with Dontaye Draper. Do not be surprised if he takes 30%+ of their shots. He's equally adept at shooting 3's as he is at getting to the rim, but his mid range game suffers a little. I worry about him; he's small and lightning quick, and I can see us struggling to defend him, similar to our struggles with UCLA's Collison. There's a good chance he'll play all 40 minutes of the game, too. Most of the offense will be run through him.

2) This team has some size and experience. It's not "big" size, though; they have a lot of 6'7" SF-type players, but no big 6'10"ish guys. That could potentially cause some matchup problems for Joe. Also, If I remember right, they have at least 3 seniors, one of whom (McCandies) is vastly underrated. They tend to go hard after transfers from high majors, though, so the experience isn't all necessarily in the CofC system.

3) These guys can run. They're easily the most athletic team in the SoCon (granted that doesn't say much), and unlike past years, with Cremins as coach, they'll probably play much more disciplined this year.

Overall, we present significant matchup problems for them. They have no one even remotely capable of handling Randolph Morris, and Perry Stevenson will likely resume his earlier blockfest. They can get picked apart by any solid mid range game, and Joe, Ramel, and BP will likely feast on this. I don't know where Jasper will fit in; he's not nimble enough to keep up with Draper, but could slaughter him offensively.

A lineup of
Porter
Meeks
Perry
Stevenson
Morris

Would be ideal defensively.



I look for the Cats to win this game easily. Morris should have 20+ points, and Perry and Crawford should have little problem getting to double digits as well. Ramel might get frustrated with Draper, who is quite the little speed demon. It should be a good opportunity to develop our freshmen as well.

Kentucky wins by 20+.

KapitalCat
11-24-2006, 12:58 PM
They are 2-2:
11/11 at Georgia State (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/clubhouse?teamId=2247)W 72-66 (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=263152247) 1-0
11/17 at Villanova (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/clubhouse?teamId=222)L 81-68 (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=263210222) 1-1
11/18 at Virginia Commonwealth (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/clubhouse?teamId=2670)L 71-59 (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=263222670) 1-2
11/20 at Middle Tennessee State (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/clubhouse?teamId=2393)W 64-56 (http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=263242393) 2-2

They played Villanova pretty good. KY will not win this one going away, it will be close, much like the Miami of Ohio game.

TrueblueCATfan
11-24-2006, 01:26 PM
I am looking for a blow -out in Rupp Arena Tuesday night..the CATS will bounce back

SamKat
11-24-2006, 01:28 PM
Thanks fellows! All competition scares me now that we are no longer the exceptional program the Kentucky Wildcats always have been.

phoenix
11-24-2006, 09:20 PM
If they win their conference it will help our RPI ranking.

I don't assume Jasper can't cover a small quick guard until I actually see it on the floor, without seeing your guard I have no idea, but I do know that Jasper is probably NOT going to get dusted by very many guards we see this year.

ukcatfan
11-25-2006, 07:16 AM
Hope we have got our legs back by then.

DCWildcat
11-25-2006, 02:47 PM
I still contend that this will be a blowout.

C of C is better than MVS and worse than DePaul.

Terry L. Wildcat
11-25-2006, 03:45 PM
SamKat wrote: Thanks fellows! All competition scares me now that we are no longer the exceptional program the Kentucky Wildcats always have been.
:cool:Keep the faith my friend (damn, I don't know if I've ever been able to say that to anyone before ;)...Mel, are you listening)...while I can't tell you when, I do know all we have to do is keep rooting and the universe will align itself again.

blewis18
11-25-2006, 03:49 PM
DCWildcat wrote: I go to a Southern Conference school and follow it with almost the same fervor as I do UK (only I get to see 10x more games of SoCon play). Outside of the players and coaches of the SoCon, I doubt there's more than a dozen people who know the conference better than I do.

There's a good chance my analysis will be way off, since Cremins is returning as head coach, and might change some of the stuff we saw last year.

So here's my breakdown:

1) Everything starts with Dontaye Draper. Do not be surprised if he takes 30%+ of their shots. He's equally adept at shooting 3's as he is at getting to the rim, but his mid range game suffers a little. I worry about him; he's small and lightning quick, and I can see us struggling to defend him, similar to our struggles with UCLA's Collison. There's a good chance he'll play all 40 minutes of the game, too. Most of the offense will be run through him.

2) This team has some size and experience. It's not "big" size, though; they have a lot of 6'7" SF-type players, but no big 6'10"ish guys. That could potentially cause some matchup problems for Joe. Also, If I remember right, they have at least 3 seniors, one of whom (McCandies) is vastly underrated. They tend to go hard after transfers from high majors, though, so the experience isn't all necessarily in the CofC system.

3) These guys can run. They're easily the most athletic team in the SoCon (granted that doesn't say much), and unlike past years, with Cremins as coach, they'll probably play much more disciplined this year.

Overall, we present significant matchup problems for them. They have no one even remotely capable of handling Randolph Morris, and Perry Stevenson will likely resume his earlier blockfest. They can get picked apart by any solid mid range game, and Joe, Ramel, and BP will likely feast on this. I don't know where Jasper will fit in; he's not nimble enough to keep up with Draper, but could slaughter him offensively.

A lineup of
Porter
Meeks
Perry
Stevenson
Morris

Would be ideal defensively.



I look for the Cats to win this game easily. Morris should have 20+ points, and Perry and Crawford should have little problem getting to double digits as well. Ramel might get frustrated with Draper, who is quite the little speed demon. It should be a good opportunity to develop our freshmen as well.

Kentucky wins by 20+.

DC, where do you go to school, Citadel? I go to Georgia Southern. Just wondering. To stay on topic I agree that this should be a blowout. Cremins will keep it close for a little while, but I believe our athleticism will prevail like the Duke - GSU game.

DCWildcat
11-25-2006, 03:51 PM
blewis18 wrote: DCWildcat wrote: I go to a Southern Conference school and follow it with almost the same fervor as I do UK (only I get to see 10x more games of SoCon play). Outside of the players and coaches of the SoCon, I doubt there's more than a dozen people who know the conference better than I do.

There's a good chance my analysis will be way off, since Cremins is returning as head coach, and might change some of the stuff we saw last year.

So here's my breakdown:

1) Everything starts with Dontaye Draper. Do not be surprised if he takes 30%+ of their shots. He's equally adept at shooting 3's as he is at getting to the rim, but his mid range game suffers a little. I worry about him; he's small and lightning quick, and I can see us struggling to defend him, similar to our struggles with UCLA's Collison. There's a good chance he'll play all 40 minutes of the game, too. Most of the offense will be run through him.

2) This team has some size and experience. It's not "big" size, though; they have a lot of 6'7" SF-type players, but no big 6'10"ish guys. That could potentially cause some matchup problems for Joe. Also, If I remember right, they have at least 3 seniors, one of whom (McCandies) is vastly underrated. They tend to go hard after transfers from high majors, though, so the experience isn't all necessarily in the CofC system.

3) These guys can run. They're easily the most athletic team in the SoCon (granted that doesn't say much), and unlike past years, with Cremins as coach, they'll probably play much more disciplined this year.

Overall, we present significant matchup problems for them. They have no one even remotely capable of handling Randolph Morris, and Perry Stevenson will likely resume his earlier blockfest. They can get picked apart by any solid mid range game, and Joe, Ramel, and BP will likely feast on this. I don't know where Jasper will fit in; he's not nimble enough to keep up with Draper, but could slaughter him offensively.

A lineup of
Porter
Meeks
Perry
Stevenson
Morris

Would be ideal defensively.



I look for the Cats to win this game easily. Morris should have 20+ points, and Perry and Crawford should have little problem getting to double digits as well. Ramel might get frustrated with Draper, who is quite the little speed demon. It should be a good opportunity to develop our freshmen as well.

Kentucky wins by 20+.

DC, where do you go to school, Citadel? I go to Georgia Southern. Just wondering. To stay on topic I agree that this should be a blowout. Cremins will keep it close for a little while, but I believe our athleticism will prevail like the Duke - GSU game.
Davidson! If anyone on here gets Fox Sports South, tuning into our game vs. Duke might be worth your while.