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phoenix
12-17-2006, 06:18 PM
10 minutes? Was his head hurting? Was he feeling ok, or just not being effective in that melee on the inside?

BigBlueAngus
12-17-2006, 06:25 PM
I thought Perry had a couple that he should have finished in close, Than Stevenson came in and got a dunk. We need Bobby though, He'll get it rolling.

Terry L. Wildcat
12-17-2006, 06:37 PM
BigBlueAngus wrote: I thought Perry had a couple that he should have finished in close, Than Stevenson came in and got a dunk. We need Bobby though, He'll get it rolling.

:cool:I agree...Bobby is solid...what a greatteam victory...the more I think about it the happier I get and it's been a few moons since I could say such a thing...however, tomorrow all my focus goes to Santa Clara...however, it's not tomorrow yet. :cool:

trublue4life
12-17-2006, 06:51 PM
I wondered if playing with 12 stitches in his forehead made him a little hesitant. Not an excuse, just could have been a factor.:shrug:The really good side of Bobby and Morris basically being nonfactors is that we won by 12 at Louisville without them. As David Hobbs said, this is the kind of win we can build on.

Will Lavender
12-18-2006, 08:13 AM
FCFS82 wrote: I think some guys are just better coming off the bench and Perry is that for UK. Its not a knock against him, but some players play better with that motivation. Just my thought...


I don't know who you start in Bobby's place if you do that. Our cupboard at the power forward position is about as bare as it can possibly be.

I just don't think Bobby came to play on Saturday. Neither did Randolph Morris. Even though he got a couple of cheap fouls, you could tell from the first possession of the game that he wasn't mentally in it.

Rivalry games are weird. I heard both Randolph and Bobby talking on the news about how big the UofL game was. The pressure may have gotten to them.

Swimmer4uk
12-18-2006, 08:40 AM
He probably just had an off game. I know I don't always have my best Saturday mornings; sometimes the remote doesn't change the channel the way I want it to, or the the drink/chips spill in my lap. Off days just happen to the best of us.

CATHYnKY
12-18-2006, 09:31 AM
To me, this is what gives me hope for this team. Perry/Morris are no factors. Meeks is 'da man'. Woo's attitude about this being "our state" was terrific. And what about Porter? I like this kid more and more. Keep these freshman 3 or 4 years and look out!!!

sardiscat
12-18-2006, 09:47 AM
Perry has been the big disappointment for me this season. He should be the senior leader, the one carrying the team while some of the younger players are learning the ropes. Instead, he's had a lot more horrible games than good ones. I'm starting to worry he may be following the Freddie Cowan path. Cowan had the great game against Duke as a junior in the 1980 NCAA. Based on that, everybody expected him to be a big star his senior year. It didn't happen.His play was so inconsistent thathe finished his senior year not even in the starting lineup.

alan32766
12-18-2006, 10:38 AM
I remember Perry and Thomas as freshman. I thought Perry would be a great role player and Thomas would be a starter once they got to their junior year. I believe that the medical problems which arose has really changed Thomas. Still I believe Thomas could start this year and if he had another year of eligibility eventually play some significant minutes. I guess what I am saying is that Thomas has not had the chance to reach his potential because of reasons outside anyone's control and for that reason I respect him and cherish any moment he is on the floor. As to Perry I believe he isdoing exactly what I thought he would do. He is a great young man and the games that he has and will contribute inare a testament to his fortitude more so than the the games which he seems to disappear are a testament of any failure.

audacious1
12-18-2006, 10:41 AM
My take is that Confidence is a huge issue with Bobby. When he's got it, he's a much different player. When he's unsure, well... you get the picture.

Will Lavender
12-18-2006, 12:13 PM
sardiscat wrote: Perry has been the big disappointment for me this season. He should be the senior leader, the one carrying the team while some of the younger players are learning the ropes. Instead, he's had a lot more horrible games than good ones. I'm starting to worry he may be following the Freddie Cowan path. Cowan had the great game against Duke as a junior in the 1980 NCAA. Based on that, everybody expected him to be a big star his senior year. It didn't happen.His play was so inconsistent thathe finished his senior year not even in the starting lineup.
Bobby is averaging about 8 points a game and 4.5 rebounds. That's almost -- ALMOST -- where I thought he would be. It was clear that he was just playing over his head in the NCAA Tournament last year.

I'd like to see him at about 10 and 5, and I think he can get there.

As you point out, he's had some duds. But he was playing with a bit of an injury early in the season, and it has to be pointed out that he's had a couple of really good games. I thought he really fought hard in the IU game with that double-double; without him, we don't win that one.

He'll be alright. Tough kid. He's the kind of guy who can go off and carry a team, but he just doesn't have the athletic ability to put up huge offensive numbers consistently. He's not that tough to shut down if defenses key on him.

DCWildcat
12-18-2006, 12:26 PM
A few things:

-No one on the team has a better nose for the ball around the rim than BP. Problem is, he just can't seem to finish down there. He probably has more putback attempts than the rest of the team combined, multiplied by 2. Yet he's just not finishing the way he did in the NCAA tourney.

-His mid range jumper is frighteningly good. After a Morris isolation, I think we should be looking to this as one of our biggest offensive advantages, we just haven't been so far.

-He only shoots 3's if he is WIDE open--not just wide but WIDE--and he's a good shooter from there. I have no problem with him jacking it up from there.

I think people tend to be harsher on Bobby than he deserves. When Randolph or Joe shoot, there's the "it's ok, they're team leaders and former All-Americans." When Smooth shoots, well, that's just what he does. And when the freshmen shoot, everyone gets excited, because it's the freshmen!!!!!!!!

But when Bobby takes a shot, people seem to grimace. He's still perceived as a more moderate example of Tubby's recruiting failures. He has less leeway than anyone on the team other than the other two seniors. Of course that's not fair, as he's a senior, a hard worker, and has proven the ability to score in bunches.

Will Lavender
12-18-2006, 12:32 PM
DCWildcat wrote:-He only shoots 3's if he is WIDE open--not just wide but WIDE--and he's a good shooter from there. I have no problem with him jacking it up from there.


I've noticed this, too.

Bobby seems reluctant to put up a shot against defensive pressure. He tends to get way too passive and look for others instead of trying to get his. Bobby needs to realize that we need scorers, and he's probably the best pure shooter we've got.

This is microcosmic of our problems on offense. People are deferring shots...but it's unclear whom they're deferring to. Everybody's looking for somebody to take over and they're not getting into a rhythm themselves. Sure, we've go tMorris; but you can't win without good perimeter play in college basketball.

Bobby needs to watch some tape of Scott Padgett. Padgett knew his role in the offense nad he knew others' roles as well. Bobby is having a hard time figuring out that we need him to put the ball in the basket, even when he's a bit guarded. He's 6'7" -- he can shoot over people. And should.

RaleighCat
12-18-2006, 01:11 PM
DCWildcat wrote: But when Bobby takes a shot, people seem to grimace.

Not here. I grimace when Sheray touches the ball. I grimace when JC rises up from deep. I grimace when Bradley gets out of control with nowhere to go.

And I also grimace at McDonalds. ;)

Swimmer4uk
12-18-2006, 01:29 PM
RaleighCat wrote: DCWildcat wrote: But when Bobby takes a shot, people seem to grimace.

Not here. I grimace when Sheray touches the ball. I grimace when JC rises up from deep. I grimace when Bradley gets out of control with nowhere to go.

And I also grimace at McDonalds. ;)


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a9/Grimace.jpg/250px-Grimace.jpg

I'm with you on Sheray (and Grimmace obviously) but by JC do youmean Jared Carter or Joe Crawford? Because Carter is a solid player, he is just running into some bad luck.