The jump stop rule?

[boomdaddy]

When was this first introduced in the pros, college, and high school? I think it is a load of crap. It is just plain walking, to me. I don't like the rule. I wish it would change back. It's like letting receivers in football run toward the line of scrimmage in arena ball, it's not the real thing. Walking, imho, is the least called infraction in the sport of b-ball. It is why I can't stand watching the NBA. They give the stars five or six steps to the basket, just plain ridiculous.

[gerntz]

I think palming is worse.

[lighthouse]

Boomdaddy, don't blow a gasget. :D First of all, I've never heard of the jump stop rule. The walk rule hasn't changed and you're right, it is the most missed call in high school and college basketball. You mentioned walking in the pro game. The rule in pro basketball is completely different than college or hs. Think about this, would you pay $50 or more to watch Michael Jordan be called for walking just before he made one of his great dunks? Professional basketball is entertainment and a lot of the rules are different, including most of the foul rules. I hope this helps, but please don't compare the pros with other basketball.

[KennesawCat]

I referee Upward Basketball (which by the way doesn't make me an expert at all. I just read the rules alot), and the way I see the "jump stop" is this:

If the player picks up his dribble after he is in the act of "jumping", then he doesn't establish his pivot foot until he lands. Thusthe "jump stop" is actually legal.

The same logic applies to the running layup. The player picks up his dribble and appears to be taking two steps to make the layup. In fact, the player doesn't establish his pivot foot on the layup until he takes his first step, which establishes the pivot foot, then picks up his pivot foot on the second step. Since he shoots before his established pivot foot returns to the floor, it is not walking.

Lighthouse, do you see this any differently?

[lighthouse]

First of all, thanks for being a part of Upward basketball. That is a great program that can change youn people's lives, as well as their basketball game.

As you know, if a player jumpstops and both feet touch the floor at the same time, then either foot can be the pivot. Now if they jump again, they must release the ball for a try or a pass before either foot returns to the floor. I hope that answers the question, but if I understand your senerio, what you said is walking, becuse if the feet touch the floor separately, the first one to touch is the pivot. Of course, a question like this is a lot easier to show on the court than to try to explain here.