Brooks Unworried After NC State Contacts Archer

[Brian McCat]

Friday, Jan 05, 2007 - 05:42 PM
Greg Hammond

UK Defensive Coordinator Mike Archer is considered a top candidate for the defensive coordinator opening at North Carolina State. Archer interviewed for the position Wednesday. Brooks expects to meet with Archer this weekend. "I'm sure we'll have a chance to visit this weekend and see where it goes from there."

http://www.wtvq.com/midatlantic/tvq/news.apx.-content-articles-TVQ-2007-01-05-0012.html

[johnkyblue]

I hope he stays so he can get the credit he deserves.

[ukfaninva]

johnkyblue wrote: I hope he stays so he can get the credit he deserves.

And what credit is that

[johnkyblue]

Building.

[Madiblue]

He cant leave!! My stomach and nerves cannot function properly without the "Cover Seven Defense! ....ok.....I Would like to see him get another year based on how the Defense played in the last two games of the season>

[Radiated]

ukfaninva wrote: johnkyblue wrote: I hope he stays so he can get the credit he deserves.

And what credit is that

Credit for having one of the worst defenses in the NCAA's.

[johnkyblue]

Number one in creating turnovers in the SEC, 2nd nationally.

[ukfaninva]

Radiated wrote: ukfaninva wrote: johnkyblue wrote: I hope he stays so he can get the credit he deserves.

And what credit is that

Credit for having one of the worst defenses in the NCAA's.


You got that right

[ukfaninva]

johnkyblue wrote: Number one in creating turnovers in the SEC, 2nd nationally.

Don't think that the DC taught them how to do that.

[JawadtheChinchilla]

I heard he's staying and got a raise.

[johnkyblue]

He didn't teach them to give up bunches of yards either.

But to say 'the worst' is horsecrap when they were #1, NUMBER ONE, SEC TURNOVER CHAMPS...

and #2 nationally.

It sounds like an overly aggressive defense to me. That's way better than one that isn't aggressive enough. You can teach aggressiveness.

[chworld22]

johnkyblue wrote: He didn't teach them to give up bunches of yards either.

But to say 'the worst' is horsecrap when they were #1, NUMBER ONE, SEC TURNOVER CHAMPS...

and #2 nationally.

It sounds like an overly aggressive defense to me. That's way better than one that isn't aggressive enough. You can teach aggressiveness.


I don't agree that the Defense is the worst but they just were not that good of defense last year they were last or close to last almost the entire year. They were ranked along side agreat defenselike Temple. They did create turnovers but it seemed for the more part if they didn't cause a turnover they gave up a touchdown or a long drive for a FG.

Now let me also say that all the blame can not be put on Archers shoulders since he can only teach the kids technique he can't really teach them desire and heart. So I think that blame for the poor defense has to be spread around the entire defensive side of the ball. But UK was young last year so they have a lot of room for improvement.

[7lives]

ukfaninva wrote: johnkyblue wrote: Number one in creating turnovers in the SEC, 2nd nationally.

Don't think that the DC taught them how to do that.
Then who did? A waitress at Tumbleweeds?

[ukwebfan]

NC State Contacts Archer

We cannot be that lucky! Unless State enjoys giving up 9 yards rushing before first contact.

[Mark Blueblood]

Like it or not guys, the defense was a HUGE reason for our success down the stretch.

Funny how Archer gets all the blame for our national ranking on what we do poorly (give up yards) but none of the credit for our national ranking in what we do well (turnover margin).

Regardless of what you think of him, he coached a team that had tons of youth and was banged up much of the year. Funny how, once they got some experience and their players back (Georgia, Vandy, Tennessee, Clemson) they looked like a totally different unit.

At the beginning of the year I had a problem with him. As of now....I have none. He can come back as far as I'm concerned.

[boomdaddy]

UK loses Bo Smith, before the season starts. They had a slew of freshmen and sophs starting and running 2nd team on the squad. Anyone remember when the Bengals went to their 1st superbowl? The season before they had a very young D and got burnt on big plays all year. The next season they were battle tested and made a huge turn around. I expct to see the same result with this UK defense.

By the way, UK's defense looked pretty good, the last 5 games of the season. I wonder what the numbers are if you compare the D from the LSU game and back against the games after the LSU blow out?

[KapitalCat]

There are enough good football coaches on the defensive side of the ball, including our head coach who was the DC for the SuperBowl Falcons, to tell me that KY's defensive problems are talent based, not coaching based. As KY gets better players, especially on the D-Line, they defense will get better and the coaches will get a lot "smarter".

[ukfaninva]

Who's to say that Brooks didn't have something to do with the D Playing so well the last 5 games?

[bleedbluelady]

If Brooks and Archer met this weekend, shouldn't we be hearing Archer's decision by now?

[Mark Blueblood]

ukfaninva wrote: Who's to say that Brooks didn't have something to do with the D Playing so well the last 5 games?

I would hope that he did - he's the coach. But hey - I bet he let his coordinators, coordinate. Come on - let's give Archer some credit where credit is due.

[poodoo]

Mark Blueblood wrote: Like it or not guys, the defense was a HUGE reason for our success down the stretch.

Funny how Archer gets all the blame for our national ranking on what we do poorly (give up yards) but none of the credit for our national ranking in what we do well (turnover margin).

Regardless of what you think of him, he coached a team that had tons of youth and was banged up much of the year. Funny how, once they got some experience and their players back (Georgia, Vandy, Tennessee, Clemson) they looked like a totally different unit.

At the beginning of the year I had a problem with him. As of now....I have none. He can come back as far as I'm concerned.


Good points, Mark. Too, there is no doubt that the defense performed well against UT and Clemson, especially. If Coach Archer returns, I tend to think that we see a muchimproved defense next season, as the returning young talent will have another year under their belt (and Ricky Lumpkin has been, reportedly, looking really good on the scout team).

Like you, earlier in the season, this news would probably have been welcomed news to me, to be honest, as Ihad some questions about Archer at that time.Now, though, I tend to think that we just may be better off with Coach Archer returning. instead of starting all over again with a new defense.I know that some of his players really think highly of him. Also, one recruit was MOST impressed with Archer during his visit,according to the Cats' Pause, and I had the impression then that the loss of Archercould be hurtful to recruiting.

I dostill have concerns about our defense against a scrambling quarterback, though. I am so thankful that we did not face one ofthose in our bowl game.

I honestly don't knowif we are better off with or withoutCoach Archer.Like Mark, though, Icurrently do not have a problem with him and also think his leavingCOULD even turnout as a negative, rather than a positive. How things can change. Go figure. :)

[UKhoov]

We did play good defense the last 5 games, and that shows our young D was starting to mature.

Having Archer leave would only hurt us, with our young team coming togther consistancy with the same coaching staff only helps!

Archer, Burton and Little all need to come back for us to be even more succesful again next year.

[RCS]

Did you all forget the La. Monroe game that when we gave up 500+ yards? I would hardly say the last 5 games they played well. The last two maybe. Archer may be the reason for the new found success, but I know Brooks we very upset abou the La. Mon. performance and it makes you wonder if he stepped in to help. If Archer stays, I would say he did not help, if he leaves, Brooks probably played a hand in the last couple of games. If we can play like we did against UT and Clemson on D next year this is a top 25 team because we can score on anyone.

[UKhoov]

Actually I did forget about the UL-Monroe game as wellas everyone else including the Denfense!

Thanks for the bitter sweet memories!:?

[RV]

I'm hearing that Archer is gone.

Just sayin'.

[Caveman Catfan]

I think Kragthorpe needs to retain Cassity. Krag ran a 3-3-5 Joe Lee Dunn style of defense in Tulsa. To keep guys like Whitehead around, he will need to move to a 4 man front. If he plans to bring in his DC from Tulsa and run that kind of defense, I think Whitehead and others might transfer.

[poodoo]

UKhoov wrote: Actually I did forget about the UL-Monroe game as wellas everyone else including the Denfense!

Thanks for the bitter sweet memories!:?

There is no doubt that the defense did not play well against Louisiana-Monroe. Having said that, a good chunk of the yardage was gained after we went into the prevent defense (similar to the Clemson game). Further, that game was after we had already gotten that necessary sixth win and after the huge consecutive wins against MSU, Georgia, and Vanderbilt. In other words, there was a letdown. Most of all, the defense performed badly against scrambling quarterbacks who could run all season. So there were some extenuating circumstances in that game. Overall, the defense was indeed performing MUCH BETTER the latter games in the season.