View Full Version : Who would stay if Tubby resigned?
VIIBanners
01-25-2007, 01:57 PM
Everyone is talking about the recruiting effects of a coaching change. I would say that if Tubby left this year, we might be left with only a few guys from our current roster. Transferring during a coaching change is not penalized. Who do you think would stay?
Littlemeyer
01-25-2007, 02:00 PM
I think it would depend on who came in as the replacement. Even then, I don't think we'd see a mass exodus. I wouldn't be surprised if they all stayed.
Art Vandelay
01-25-2007, 02:16 PM
All of them will stay because, presumably, UK will hire a quality replacement. Who knows, some of the players, other than Sheray and Bobby of course, might be happy to see Tubby leave.
VIIBanners
01-25-2007, 02:20 PM
Littlemeyer wrote: I think it would depend on who came in as the replacement. Even then, I don't think we'd see a mass exodus. I wouldn't be surprised if they all stayed.
Really??? It seems like most coaching changes result in more than a few defections...
it isn't as simple as who the next coach would be. IMO
You always here how Tubby and the player's families are close, and how he is like a grandfather. Some players may be more attached to the coach than the university.... that could lead to a defection or two.
The perceived circumstances of him being fired should be taken into account as well. If the players see his firing (or whatever the circumstance would be) as a UK fan coup do you think they would want to still play here for us?
You probably wouldn't see a mass exodus like the one we saw during probation, but the possibility of having the roster thinned out is real.
BowlingGreenUKGrad
01-25-2007, 02:28 PM
VIIBanners wrote: Transferring during a coaching change is not penalized.
Since when?
Is this some new NCAA rule I haven't heard about?
Littlemeyer
01-25-2007, 02:29 PM
VIIBanners wrote: Really??? It seems like most coaching changes result in more than a few defections...
it isn't as simple as who the next coach would be. IMO
You always here how Tubby and the player's families are close, and how he is like a grandfather. Some players may be more attached to the coach than the university.... that could lead to a defection or two.
The perceived circumstances of him being fired should be taken into account as well. If the players see his firing (or whatever the circumstance would be) as a UK fan coup do you think they would want to still play here for us?
You probably wouldn't see a mass exodus like the one we saw during probation, but the possibility of having the roster thinned out is real.
Sure, that possibility exists. But really, we're talking about a pool ofa fewplayers.
I would REALLY be surprised if the rising seniors left for just one more season somewhere else.
After them, you've got Jared Carter. Being a Kentucky native (from justa few miles away from Lexington, no less) I doubt he'd go anywhere.
That leaves this year's freshmen. Porter, Jasper, and Harrismight consider a move closer to home, but something tells me that Stevenson and Meeks aren't going anywhere.
I don't know. It is an interesting question, and I look forward to seeing how others feel about it.
RaviMoss#1fan
01-25-2007, 02:29 PM
I say if Tubby resigned which i highly doubt he will since he like the highest paid coach out there that Morris would jump ship and sign a free agent deal with the NBA
VIIBanners
01-25-2007, 02:33 PM
BowlingGreenUKGrad wrote: VIIBanners wrote: Transferring during a coaching change is not penalized.
Since when?
Is this some new NCAA rule I haven't heard about?
sorry, I thought you could transfer without sitting a year if your coach was fired. Did I just make that up?:lol:
BowlingGreenUKGrad
01-25-2007, 02:37 PM
VIIBanners wrote: BowlingGreenUKGrad wrote: VIIBanners wrote: Transferring during a coaching change is not penalized.
Since when?
Is this some new NCAA rule I haven't heard about?
sorry, I thought you could transfer without sitting a year if your coach was fired. Did I just make that up?:lol:
I've never heard that before, but I don't know everything. I could be wrong.
I know Patrick Sparks had to sit out a year after his coach left Western. But Felton was not fired.
Madiblue
01-25-2007, 03:21 PM
Also take into account of they way they played the last two games where are they going to go? Where else can they be treated like rock stars?? They all look like they need a day off to get their legs and mind together!
jdeasy
01-25-2007, 04:00 PM
Well, let's see, of the 37 players recruited to UK by tubby prior to this season, 17 of them have left early. Only one to the NBA. 2 more tried to leave and one, {Bradley} considered not coming back for this season.
What makes anyone think that the players will stay here even if tubby does? It's almost a 50% chance that the players will leave anyway.
We will have a UT type turnaround as soon as we are tubbyfree.
Will Lavender
01-25-2007, 04:08 PM
It's really difficult to answer this question.
If you've ever played organized sports, you know a lot of kids don't like the coach. That's a given. Happens everywhere, all the time.
Some don't like him because he's too hard on them. Others don't like him because he does't play them. Whatever the cause, the head coach is usually the least liked individual on the team.
Now, there should be a healthy respect for the coach. But I guarantee there are a lot of kids on this team who grumble about Tubby, and these are the kids who would likely stay if Tubby left.
But outside of Morris, I just don't see where a lot of these kids are going to go. Is a kid like Joe Crawford gonna get drafted? No. So is Crawford going to sit out for a year just to play hissenior year somewhere else? Ihighly doubt it.
I don't know about the freshmen, but I would assume they'll stay, too. I've heard both Stevenson and Meeks talk about the tradition of the program as a reason they chose UK. I would think that Tubby leaving wouldn't really sway them to leave as well.
But who knows.
Los Gatos
01-25-2007, 04:10 PM
VIIBanners wrote: BowlingGreenUKGrad wrote: VIIBanners wrote: Transferring during a coaching change is not penalized.
Since when?
Is this some new NCAA rule I haven't heard about?
sorry, I thought you could transfer without sitting a year if your coach was fired. Did I just make that up?:lol:
Yes
Littlemeyer
01-25-2007, 04:16 PM
VIIBanners wrote: BowlingGreenUKGrad wrote: VIIBanners wrote: Transferring during a coaching change is not penalized.
Since when?
Is this some new NCAA rule I haven't heard about?
sorry, I thought you could transfer without sitting a year if your coach was fired. Did I just make that up?:lol:
I know the rules do change for a player whose coach is fired, or leaves in another fashion. I'm almost positive, though, that you still have to sit out a year.
When a player seeks to transfer, they have to get a release from their current school. I think that is the requirement that is waived in coaching-change cases. Of course, I could be making this all up too. I really don't know. :shrug:
BrassowFan
01-25-2007, 07:17 PM
I think that it depends on who his replacement would be and how they would fit into the new system. Irregardless, we seem to lose a few players each year with Tubby here so I wouldn't expect this to be much different.
IMO the only player with real options is Morris. I think that if he thought the new system would showcase him, he's likely to stick around, especially with his last flirtation with the NBA, otherwise he may try his chances once again.
catsall
01-25-2007, 07:51 PM
I would not care if we had to start over. None of our players are make or break talent. I guess that why we are where we are. Hell I say take all of them with him and let the new coach recruit a new team.
Rockober
01-25-2007, 07:54 PM
catsall wrote: I would not care if we had to start over. None of our players are make or break talent. I guess that why we are where we are. Hell I say take all of them with him and let the new coach recruit a new team.
:thumbdownWow. What loyalty to the TEAM. Tubby will be gone soon enough but don't slap the faces of current players like they are piss ants. I am not happy with the results but some people need perspective and class.
Will Lavender
01-25-2007, 08:08 PM
catsall wrote: I would not care if we had to start over. None of our players are make or break talent. I guess that why we are where we are. Hell I say take all of them with him and let the new coach recruit a new team.
Ridiculous comment.
Let's respect the kids at least. Tubby's fair game; he's a millionaire. The kids deserve better than this.
UFWildcat
01-25-2007, 08:28 PM
Will Lavender wrote: catsall wrote: I would not care if we had to start over. None of our players are make or break talent. I guess that why we are where we are. Hell I say take all of them with him and let the new coach recruit a new team.
Ridiculous comment.
Let's respect the kids at least. Tubby's fair game; he's a millionaire. The kids deserve better than this.
:thumbup^
Horrible outlook
bleedbluelady
01-25-2007, 09:46 PM
BrassowFan wrote: I think that it depends on who his replacement would be and how they would fit into the new system. Irregardless, we seem to lose a few players each year with Tubby here so I wouldn't expect this to be much different.
IMO the only player with real options is Morris. I think that if he thought the new system would showcase him, he's likely to stick around, especially with his last flirtation with the NBA, otherwise he may try his chances once again.
Good point.
bleedbluelady
01-25-2007, 09:49 PM
catsall wrote: I would not care if we had to start over. None of our players are make or break talent. I guess that why we are where we are. Hell I say take all of them with him and let the new coach recruit a new team.
WHAT?!?!?! We're all upset. But, there's no reason to over react like this.
Madiblue
01-26-2007, 03:06 PM
After that comment don't you feel like that airline commercial "Wanna get away"?
BigblueDrew
01-26-2007, 03:43 PM
I wonder if there will be many players left since Tubbyseems too busy to recruit any new ones.
OldCatFan
01-26-2007, 04:07 PM
Most of the current players would stay if I had to bet money. This is a very good group of young men and I believe they can play with most teams if they had a coach that would let them.
As I have said before, I will support the team and ALL the players, but I am just about finished supporting our coach. He has outstayed his welcome.
I just want to get this behind us so I can get giddy with excitement again as I did in 1965 when I started listening to the Cats on the radio. The last 2 or 3 years have been painful to an Old Cat Fan like myself.
poodoo
01-26-2007, 10:40 PM
bleedbluelady wrote: catsall wrote: I would not care if we had to start over. None of our players are make or break talent. I guess that why we are where we are. Hell I say take all of them with him and let the new coach recruit a new team.
WHAT?!?!?! We're all upset. But, there's no reason to over react like this.
Goodness gracious!!! No further comment on the original post except for a :thumbdown.
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