UK/Vandy Game Thread.....

[WildcatRick]

Morris working hard...........

[catfanintn]

Still no offense. Seven minutes in and 4 points!

[Spanish Moss]

If only Perry could finish a shot. :(

[RP_McMurphy]

Driving Miss Daisy offense

[NotFrank]

Morris is creating shots though when he gets doubled. He passed to Perry for a wide open 15 footer and Bradley for a wide open three...both nothing but brick. Bobby Perry should get really comfortable and familiar with Preston LeMaster.

[wildcatfaninnc]

Still have no clue why Perry is out there. Horrible....:?

[CurlyCat]

AMEN to the frustrations about Perry, jeez!

Four points in NINE minutes. :shock: Not looking good at the moment. But, still believing we can turn this one around, for now.

[freethrow]

Perry is making this painful :(

[catfanintn]

Perry misses shot, then two free throws.

Morris only good looking thing out there at the moment.

[Athens2005]

The offense looks better.

Open shots, just not going in. That should (will?) change.

Missing FT's!

Morriss drew 3 fouls in the first 3 minutes. That is big.

We will start to gather energy, make shots, and really win this game big.

[NotFrank]

Our offense is so friggin' bad! I want to scream...

[KapitalCat]

Playing hard. Still need to add a sense of urgency to their play. Morris is a big boost. D is pretty good. Shooting and O, as usual is awful. But if KY can hang in there, keep it close, I think we'll win the second half.

[Spanish Moss]

Our defense is keeping us in the game. That may be the key to victory tonight. The only key

[catfanintn]

Defense is starting to pick up the slack. Still no half court offense, however.

[NotFrank]

Morris has three blocks already.

One of the first things they teach guards in basketball is not to feed the post from the top of the key, yet we continue to try it. Our basketball IQ is a major issue.

[ukbob]

Nothing wrong with the offense from a coaching perspective so far. We just cannot shoot the ball. Lots of open looks. Have to hit the shots.

[KapitalCat]

ukbob wrote: Nothing wrong with the offense from a coaching perspective so far. We just cannot shoot the ball. Lots of open looks. Have to hit the shots.It just takes someone to hit a couple in a row and that will loosen everyone up. Last night my daughter hit 3-4 threes, I may call Tubby.

[catfanintn]

Will we break 20 by halftime?

[Spanish Moss]

ukbob wrote: Nothing wrong with the offense from a coaching perspective so far. We just cannot shoot the ball. Lots of open looks. Have to hit the shots.
your right. I think this is the worst shooting UK team I've seen in 45 years. Tubby isn't allowed to shoot it for them, that's for sure.

[NotFrank]

ukbob wrote: Nothing wrong with the offense from a coaching perspective so far. We just cannot shoot the ball. Lots of open looks. Have to hit the shots.


Bob,

We have no assists, four to fiveopen looks and guards who LOVE to over dribble. Please tell me what is good about that. We run an NBA offense:dribble, dribble, dribble, pick and roll, and then guard takes a bad shot.

[KapitalCat]

catfanintn wrote: Will we break 20 by halftime?Nope. I don't think we'll score 50 tonight. We will need 55 to win this game. Amazing how bad this teams offense is.

[CurlyCat]

Did you just see the words Jared Carter mouthed after his 2nd foul???

Wow, who'd have thunk it! :shock: I rewound it twice to be sure, but he said "F%@# Tubby".

[KapitalCat]

So much for shortening the bench, looks like 11 have played in the first half. Cats little run is over, Vandy back up by 7.

[NotFrank]

Could Sheray Thomas and Bobby Perry start at Western?

[Athens2005]

Gee, thanks for sharing. :rolleyes:

CurlyCat wrote: Did you just see the words Jared Carter mouthed after his 2nd foul???

Wow, who'd have thunk it! :shock: I rewound it twice to be sure, but he said "F%@# Tubby".

[catfanintn]

Finally, an assist by Sparks.

[RaleighCat]

We couldn't score 60 points locked in the gym alone. At least Morris is fighting for position and doing something positive. I think we're improving slightly, but the offense is so gawd awful it's really hard to tell.

[ukbob]

NotFrank wrote: ukbob wrote: Nothing wrong with the offense from a coaching perspective so far. We just cannot shoot the ball. Lots of open looks. Have to hit the shots.


Bob,

We have no assists, four to fiveopen looks and guards who LOVE to over dribble. Please tell me what is good about that. We run an NBA offense:dribble, dribble, dribble, pick and roll, and then guard takes a bad shot.

And why no assists? Do you think every assist is for a dunk?

They cannot hit open shots. None of them can. This is the most screens and movement I have seen for a while with this team and they still cannot shoot. Hit 2 or 3 of those bombs and we would be on the run.

The effort is there on defense. The effort is there on offense. No results.

I blame Smith for a lot of stuff but not for woeful shooting.

[Athens2005]

Jay Bilas had good analysis.


Continue to give this team time. It will come.

We'll be very good in a few weeks, IMO.

[Athens2005]

that's what Sparks needed:

no choice but to shoot.

[ukbob]

But we did not need his patented off target lob pass when we needed a basket. Stupid play.

This team is painful to watch struggle so bad.

I do like the hustle however. And it is good to see Morris play tough.

[Athens2005]

Bob,

Good to have you and your common sense back.

[mdluk1]

We have to get more than 2 points, 1 rebound from Crawford.

[RaleighCat]

ukbob wrote: But we did not need his patented off target lob pass when we needed a basket. Stupid play.

This team is painful to watch struggle so bad.

I do like the hustle however. And it is good to see Morris play tough.

Agreed. HORRIBLE play for a 5th year senior. Where is his head sometimes? I just don't get him on plays like that.

We're hustling- which is fantastic. We still can't hit the broad side of a barn- which is depressing. I think we need more movement overall, but it's improving.

We'll know a lot more about this team by the AU game. For now points are at a premium.

[Spanish Moss]

mdluk1 wrote: We have to get more than 2 points, 1 rebound from Crawford.
This bothers me more than anything else. He HAS to become a force.

[KennesawCat]

Athens2005 wrote: Jay Bilas had good analysis.


Continue to give this team time. It will come.

We'll be very good in a few weeks, IMO.


He also said "Used to be Kentucky always had guys with superior talent. Now, everybody in the nation has players like Kentucky." Recruiting, recruiting, recruiting.

[freethrow]

We are shooting 36% from the floor. 11% from the 3 and 25% from the FT line. Good thing we are playing some D.

[Athens2005]

I don't think Bilas said that.
It was the color commentator.
However, he did say, "other than Rondo and Morriss . . ."

that's two players he is saying are better than what other teams have.

Recruiting, recruiting, recruiting.



KennesawCat wrote: Athens2005 wrote: Jay Bilas had good analysis.


Continue to give this team time. It will come.

We'll be very good in a few weeks, IMO.


He also said "Used to be Kentucky always had guys with superior talent. Now, everybody in the nation has players like Kentucky." Recruiting, recruiting, recruiting.

[PhatNastyCat]

I was going to comment on the same thing. As soon as I saw that pass leave his hand I about spit my drink out. Why does he continue to do that garbage?

[wildcat74]

ukbob wrote: But we did not need his patented off target lob pass when we needed a basket.

I HATE THAT FREAKIN PASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'd bench him for a half for every lob he throws!!

[Spanish Moss]

9-2 run. If Vandy starts hitting shots school is out tonight.

[cbc317]

Down 9 with 16 mins...Morris with 3 Fouls...Perry missing more layups...trouble folks

[catfanintn]

Not looking good at all. 3 points again in first 4.5 min. of second half.

[RP_McMurphy]

Way to earn that 2 million Tubby!!!!!!!!!!

[Athens2005]

This is really bad.

Yes, defense kept us in it; but, we're at home, where defense is usally better.

Play this game again in Nashville and we're down by 20.

[RaleighCat]

Will we score 50 points tonight? Seriously. I don't think so. It's ugly.

[mdluk1]

Not shooting 29%!

[RP_McMurphy]

I don't see 50

[catfanintn]

What a stat! Crawford, Rondo, and Sparks 4 for 42 in 3 pointers last 3 games.

[Spanish Moss]

Getting 35 is going to be a struggle.

[catfanintn]

Been watching Uk bball for 40 years. This is the worst display of basketball I've ever seen!!!!!!!!!!!

[mdluk1]

No fg's the 2nd half. This is ugly.

[cbc317]

I REALLY can't believe what I am witnessing...these kids look totally confused and unsure of what they are doing.....

[PhatNastyCat]

Holy cow. I simply don't understand what has happened to this team. How could the entire team fail to be able to hit an outside shot. ?

-PNC

[UK 4 Life]

I've seen enough tonite. They're playing with no heart or urgency to run the offense. I was really expecting alot more pride to be shown tonite but it hasn't been there. :cry:

[NotFrank]

We have FOUR yes FOUR points since the half...make that FIVE

[katfever]

This is an embarrassment. 23 points in 25 minutes. Where are the "voices of reason" to explain this?

[Wildcat240]

Obviously you didn't see the Kansas game on Saturday.

[Spanish Moss]

This has to be a HEAD case. No confidence

[PhatNastyCat]

Morris has notshown any rust and has done a good job of showing hustle andpassion on the floor. Now we just need him to be vocal leader on the floor.

They need a run right now if they want to win this one.

-PNC

[catfanintn]

Are all our points on free throws so far this half?

[Athens2005]

Perhaps if we scored more, it would dawn on the players that Vandy runs the same inbounds play every time, and we'd get a steal.

[Athens2005]

yes
catfanintn wrote: Are all our points on free throws so far this half?

[PhatNastyCat]

Drive guys, use your quickness and athleticsm. Stop settling for 3 point shots when you can't hit them.

Vandy is killing them on the offensive boards.

-PNC

[catfanintn]

Dread going to work tomorrow around the Vandy and Tennessee fans if we don't come back.

[Athens2005]

Good point. If they're not going in, you've gotta try something else.

Shooting three's is not a necessity.

In fact, if they didn't have the 3-point shot, whould they be shooting 20 footers at all?

Probably not guys like Rondo/Crawford/Bradley.

PhatNastyCat wrote: Drive guys, use your quickness and athleticsm. Stop settling for 3 point shots when you can't hit them.

Vandy is killing them on the offensive boards.

-PNC

[Athens2005]

how 'bout going to the game in Athens next week and sitting in the student section?

catfanintn wrote: Dread going to work tomorrow around the Vandy and Tennessee fans if we don't come back.

[KapitalCat]

A little run, maybe if KY keeps chipping away we can make it interesting.

[catfanintn]

Athens2005 wrote: how 'bout going to the game in Athens next week and sitting in the student section?

catfanintn wrote: Dread going to work tomorrow around the Vandy and Tennessee fans if we don't come back.
Pretty brave - or glutton for punishment!!!

[Spanish Moss]

The crowd is the difference right now :thumbup

[PhatNastyCat]

Ravi, Ravi, Ravi. Here we go fellas.

-PNC

[Sir Richard F. Burton]

KENTUCKY PRIDE!

[cats4lifenc]

getting interesting!!!!!

[KapitalCat]

cats4lifenc wrote: getting interesting!!!!!
Yep...I feel a mojo switch...

[PhatNastyCat]

Win or lose this one, it's clear that Morris is filling the void very well. Interesting to see Morris and Woo on the floor together. The defensive intensity has certainly increased.

-PNC

[KapitalCat]

All KY needs is for someone to step up, knock down a couple of shoots, loosen the other guys up and things will improve quickly. KY needs to tie t his thing up in the next 3 minutes.

[cbc317]

Up 1 with the Ball and Ramel doesn't even get into a offensive set....just dribble, dribble, shoot

We needed to try to keep the momentum

[KapitalCat]

cbc317 wrote: Up 1 with the Ball and Ramel doesn't even get into a offensive set....just dribble, dribble, shoot

We needed to try to keep the momentum
That is an issue. I still love the effort though.

[PhatNastyCat]

How is that a no call? Orzbut was clearly in position when the guy jumped into him.

-PNC

[cbc317]

I love the effort to...but we are not good enough right now to just waste opportunities

[KapitalCat]

Darn...Vandy goes on a 5-0 run, not what I was expecting. I really thought KY would extend the lead.

[cbc317]

Another STUPID play by Ramel...why isn't RONDO in the game

[PhatNastyCat]

They giveth and taketh away. Come on Cats. Vandy is giving you every chance in the world to take control of this game. Do it!!!

-PNC

[ukbob]

Friggin Bradley with a lazy pass. These guys are busting their butts to win and he gets lazy. :X

A killer there.

[Wildcat240]

This is the same crap they did in the Louisville game - get a lead and then try to eat clock. Sure, that works when you're up by 15, but not by one! Why do they keep trying to get into sets when there are opportunities in transition? I feel like I've seen this all season.

[catfanintn]

Only shooter tonight NOT a McD all american!

Who just threw the ball away?

[ukbob]

Wildcat240 wrote: This is the same crap they did in the Louisville game - get a lead and then try to eat clock. Sure, that works when you're up by 15, but not by one! Why do they keep trying to get into sets when there are opportunities in transition? I feel like I've seen this all season.

Eat clock? What game are you watching. They try to score each time down. Just made a stupid pass.

[cats4lifenc]

this team has no heart to put away a team at home......just depressing

[Wildcat240]

No no no, they've had 3 opportunities to score in transition, and every time, they pull back and try to get into a set. Transition is the only thing we can do somewhat effectively right now, not sets.

[Athens2005]

they're gonna put us away at the FT line over the final 2:13

[cbc317]

The last two trips...they haven't ran an offesive set...we are giving this game away by forcing bad shots, making lazy passes, and not hitting free throws

[PhatNastyCat]

Again, Morris looks like the one guy on the floor who really wants it.

-PNC

[cbc317]

This team just doesn't get it.....each time we have an opportunity to tie, extend lead, or take lead we just make some stupid play...bad shoot by Ravi, bad pass by Bradley, and bad shoot selection by Ramel when we were up by one...

We just aren't good enough to waste those opportunities..

[Aike]

Down 2 with a minute left...never feed the post...take a contested three...stupid, stupid, stupid

[catfanintn]

What kind of shot was THAT by Crawford?

[cats4lifenc]

I think we are finding out this isn't a smart team....coaching maybe?

[Athens2005]

Every time Crawford goes to the hole, he turns his body sideways.

Officials do not respect that.

[PhatNastyCat]

Game, Set, Match. Dumb, dumb, dumb.

[ukbob]

Game over.

[Spanish Moss]

Lowest basketball IQ I've seen wearing the blue and white. They have no idea what to do at crunch time.

[katfever]

cats4lifenc wrote: I think we are finding out this isn't a smart team....coaching maybe?
No, remember Tubby can't be blamed for anything. He is the infallible one.

[cats4lifenc]

yeah what was i thinking....i will bring the wrath of the OTS fan club down on me.....thanks guys...we let them get their first win ever in this building.....how sad is that?

[catfanintn]

They had their chance. Wrong guy shot it.

Without Moss's hot hand, this was a blowaway. First loss to Vandy in Lexington since I started school there in 1975.

Could be a ROUGH time in the SEC.

[Wildcat240]

what a STUPID shot

[KennesawCat]

This is a real sucky time in the history of UK basketball. They'll be better days, I'm sure...

[BlueHeart]

The inbounds passer for Vanderbilt just traveled. He jumped before throwing the pass. The inbounds play was after a time out, which followed a rebound. I could be wrong, it's happened once or twice.

[Swimmer4uk]

Trex. i'm going to guess again. Morris is the good. Everything else possible is the ugly.

[Ky Man]

catfanintn wrote: What a stat! Crawford, Rondo, and Sparks 4 for 42 in 3 pointers last 3 games.
according to some...that would be a good reason to get rid of Tubby....and two of those three are McD's...and recruited by Tubby...is that the kind of recruiting we want at Ky...Mc's?...lol...I gotta say something...I am depressed...

[Ky Man]

cats4lifenc wrote: I think we are finding out this isn't a smart team....coaching maybe?
I don't think a player making a bad, stupid, or lazy pass or takes a bad shot is coaching...do people think Tubby coaches them to do that crap?

[UK Chic]

Ky Man wrote: cats4lifenc wrote: I think we are finding out this isn't a smart team....coaching maybe?
I don't think a player making a bad, stupid, or lazy pass or takes a bad shot is coaching...do people think Tubby coaches them to do that crap?
KY Man - I agree! I am just not on theFire-Tubby bandwagon yet.If we really think the players have nothing to do with this, we are worse off than I thought.

I am very discouraged and upset about this but still searching for answers. Losing to Vandy sucks but so did most of our shots! :tongue

[Ky Man]

UK Chic wrote: Ky Man wrote: cats4lifenc wrote: I think we are finding out this isn't a smart team....coaching maybe?
I don't think a player making a bad, stupid, or lazy pass or takes a bad shot is coaching...do people think Tubby coaches them to do that crap?
KY Man - I agree! I am just not on theFire-Tubby bandwagon yet.If we really think the players have nothing to do with this, we are worse off than I thought.

I am very discouraged and upset about this but still searching for answers. Losing to Vandy sucks but so did most of our shots! :tongue
Uk Chic, I have read a lot of your posts and have a lot of respect for your knowledge about the Cats, and like you I am not on the Fire-Tubby bandwagon "YET" either. It is killing me slowly the way this team is playing right now , but unlike some on here I think this team has a lot of talent and can go far in the tourney. Now, we just need some answers to what is wrong with them. I am placing my hopes on the return of Morris. Now we have a inside presence and I hope now that the guards get the ball inside to him. I think good things will happen if they do....I am just one of those guys who think the glass is half full I guess.

[UK Chic]

Ky Man wrote: UK Chic wrote: Ky Man wrote: cats4lifenc wrote: I think we are finding out this isn't a smart team....coaching maybe?
I don't think a player making a bad, stupid, or lazy pass or takes a bad shot is coaching...do people think Tubby coaches them to do that crap?
KY Man - I agree! I am just not on theFire-Tubby bandwagon yet.If we really think the players have nothing to do with this, we are worse off than I thought.

I am very discouraged and upset about this but still searching for answers. Losing to Vandy sucks but so did most of our shots! :tongue
Uk Chic, I have read a lot of your posts and have a lot of respect for your knowledge about the Cats, and like you I am not on the Fire-Tubby bandwagon "YET" either. It is killing me slowly the way this team is playing right now , but unlike some on here I think this team has a lot of talent and can go far in the tourney. Now, we just need some answers to what is wrong with them. I am placing my hopes on the return of Morris. Now we have a inside presence and I hope now that the guards get the ball inside to him. I think good things will happen if they do....I am just one of those guys who think the glass is half full I guess.
KY-Man, Thanks! And I agree! God, I hope we are right! :)