Tubby's negativity is worse....

[Dampier]

Like many others, I listened to the Big Blue post game show today after the Vandy loss.

The negativity that Coach Smith shows towards his own players far, far out weigh any negativity that a message board can portray.

Some UK fans write big posts calling for UK fans to STOP the negativity towards the Cats. Well, one only need to listen to any Call in show or post game show to hear how much Tubby blames HIS own players. Tell me, which is worse. Putting down your own players on the radio is much, much worse than any message board could possibly do.

Seems as though Coach Smith is the biggest negative one. And, this is the ones he is to coach for the next game.

I really feel that at this point is time, Coach Smith is the biggest negative out there for UK basketball. If I am a player for UK, he is the biggest downer bar none.

Just when is the last time that anyone has heard Coach Smith take the 'Blame" for any losses. It always his blame towards the players. Uhh, he is the one who got them here to begin with.

[ukcatfan]

He need to quit but will not do it.

[JOHN BLUEBLOOD]

You can hear the tension and pressure in his voice, he's not dumb, he knows he's not getting it done. When Leach asked him about Crawford, he was real quick with Leach about it.

The people who follow you feed off this kind of thing- they see it too.

[KennesawCat]

This is very frustrated man who has lost touch with his players, for the second year in a row.

It's apparent he can no longer motivate players, especially the highcaliper players. He's a mid-major coach who should be successful coaching a team full of 2-star and 3-star players and get them to over achieve.

He has no idea how to deal with more gifted atheletes.

[BigblueDrew]

KennesawCat wrote: This is very frustrated man who has lost touch with his players, for the second year in a row.

It's apparent he can no longer motivate players, especially the highcaliper players. He's a mid-major coach who should be successful coaching a team full of 2-star and 3-star players and get them to over achieve.

He has no idea how to deal with more gifted atheletes.

I tend to agree with you. It seems pretty obvious that the players are shutting down toward Tubby(and vice versa)as the season winds down. Your point about his inability to connect with gifted players also rings true and should we get Patterson and Lucas, I doubt it will make much difference. The junior classwas considered the nations best by many, what are they doing. This years class, heralded all over the Big Blue Nation at the begginning of the season as one of our best in years, where is it. I'll tell you. Derrick Jasper is steadily regressing under Tubby's system , often looking indecisive and confused. Stevenson and Porter are growing cobweds on the bench and rumors are there is alot of of court tension with Tubby prompting them both to consider transfer. Only Jodie Meeks appears to be thriving. Even when he recruits well he can't manage the talent he has. this will not change wether we get Patterson and Lucas or not. WHY can't people see this. WHAT is it going to take to make a change. Does ANYBODY in the Atheletic Department have any GUTS. I hope so, because watching these last few seasons is KILLING this old cat fan.

[KennesawCat]

BigblueDrew wrote:
WHAT is it going to take to make a change. Does ANYBODY in the Atheletic Department have any GUTS. I hope so, because watching these last few seasons is KILLING this old cat fan.

I believe that everyone in the athletic department, the boosters, Whitaker Bank, et al, understand what needs to be done.

It just has to wait 'til season's end. And it will.

[Mackcat]

Sorry, but I feal for Tubby right now. He coached his *** off, and was 100 percent into it. He looked like a guy who had to have this game. You could tell he was crushed in his voice on the postgame.

[Catdaddy24]

Its a sad thing. To see on live TV a Program that used to be THE ELITE just barely hang on to just being a good team. Did anyone notice the closeup of Tubby at the end of the game. It was written all over his face. He knows that he not the players is not getting it done. If the players dont respond to your coaching then something is definitely not right with the coaching. The post game excuses are all the same and yet nothing has changed from game to game. I believe he knows his ship has sailed.

[Levi]

I'm sorry but a stubborn streak can take you to some very ugly places and we are ugly.

[Mackcat]

KennesawCat wrote: BigblueDrew wrote:
WHAT is it going to take to make a change. Does ANYBODY in the Atheletic Department have any GUTS. I hope so, because watching these last few seasons is KILLING this old cat fan.

I believe that everyone in the athletic department, the boosters, Whitaker Bank, et al, understand what needs to be done.

It just has to wait 'til season's end. And it will.

There is no way in hell he gets pushed out after this year! he is gonna win 20 games and get in the dance. Two years removed from a final 8. UConn is not gonna get in at all. Is calhoun getting fired? When was the last time Duke won it all? Quit being a yankees fan.

[Jeff Craddock]

I didn't hear the post-game show, but if what I've read on various boards about Tubby's comments is true, then it just reinforces my belief that a change is in order.

[BigblueDrew]

Mackcat wrote: KennesawCat wrote: BigblueDrew wrote:
WHAT is it going to take to make a change. Does ANYBODY in the Atheletic Department have any GUTS. I hope so, because watching these last few seasons is KILLING this old cat fan.

I believe that everyone in the athletic department, the boosters, Whitaker Bank, et al, understand what needs to be done.

It just has to wait 'til season's end. And it will.

There is no way in hell he gets pushed out after this year! he is gonna win 20 games and get in the dance. Two years removed from a final 8. UConn is not gonna get in at all. Is calhoun getting fired? When was the last time Duke won it all? Quit being a yankees fan.
The problem Mackcat is we aren't talking about UCONN or Duke. We are talking about UK. If you areOk with what you see out there I suppose I'll just have to surrender to you. As to being a Yankees fan I'm not, I'm a UK(much higher standard)fan since 1965 and what I see out there aint UK basketball. I repeat TUBBY RESIGN or be fired I don't give a Hoot in Hades which.

[JOHN BLUEBLOOD]

BigblueDrew wrote: KennesawCat wrote: This is very frustrated man who has lost touch with his players, for the second year in a row.

It's apparent he can no longer motivate players, especially the highcaliper players. He's a mid-major coach who should be successful coaching a team full of 2-star and 3-star players and get them to over achieve.

He has no idea how to deal with more gifted atheletes.

I tend to agree with you. It seems pretty obvious that the players are shutting down toward Tubby(and vice versa)as the season winds down. Your point about his inability to connect with gifted players also rings true and should we get Patterson and Lucas, I doubt it will make much difference. The junior classwas considered the nations best by many, what are they doing. This years class, heralded all over the Big Blue Nation at the begginning of the season as one of our best in years, where is it. I'll tell you. Derrick Jasper is steadily regressing under Tubby's system , often looking indecisive and confused. Stevenson and Porter are growing cobweds on the bench and rumors are there is alot of of court tension with Tubby prompting them both to consider transfer. Only Jodie Meeks appears to be thriving. Even when he recruits well he can't manage the talent he has. this will not change wether we get Patterson and Lucas or not. WHY can't people see this. WHAT is it going to take to make a change. Does ANYBODY in the Atheletic Department have any GUTS. I hope so, because watching these last few seasons is KILLING this old cat fan.

I can think of other Parade and McDy's AA's that have come here and either left, got run off or underacheived and EVERY SINGLE TIME, Tub's Army blames on the kids. Look folks, it can't always be the player and not tubby

Carruth, Parker, Bradley, Camara, Stone, M. Anthony etc, and now this bunch.

[Mackcat]

BigblueDrew wrote: Mackcat wrote: KennesawCat wrote: BigblueDrew wrote:
WHAT is it going to take to make a change. Does ANYBODY in the Atheletic Department have any GUTS. I hope so, because watching these last few seasons is KILLING this old cat fan.

I believe that everyone in the athletic department, the boosters, Whitaker Bank, et al, understand what needs to be done.

It just has to wait 'til season's end. And it will.

There is no way in hell he gets pushed out after this year! he is gonna win 20 games and get in the dance. Two years removed from a final 8. UConn is not gonna get in at all. Is calhoun getting fired? When was the last time Duke won it all? Quit being a yankees fan.
The problem Mackcat is we aren't talking about UCONN or Duke. We are talking about UK. If you areOk with what you see out there I suppose I'll just have to surrender to you. As to being a Yankees fan I'm not, I'm a UK(much higher standard)fan since 1965 and what I see out there aint UK basketball. I repeat TUBBY RESIGN or be fired I don't give a Hoot in Hades which.So did that HIGHER standard about lose it between 78 - 96 when we did not win a title. Come on! This is all about the fact that we were spoiled by the run Pitino had in the 90's. It was the perfect storm. Gone out to see, and not coming again. Did Eddied Suttton uphold that HIGHER standard?

[Classof93]

BigblueDrew wrote: Mackcat wrote: KennesawCat wrote: BigblueDrew wrote:
WHAT is it going to take to make a change. Does ANYBODY in the Atheletic Department have any GUTS. I hope so, because watching these last few seasons is KILLING this old cat fan.

I believe that everyone in the athletic department, the boosters, Whitaker Bank, et al, understand what needs to be done.

It just has to wait 'til season's end. And it will.

There is no way in hell he gets pushed out after this year! he is gonna win 20 games and get in the dance. Two years removed from a final 8. UConn is not gonna get in at all. Is calhoun getting fired? When was the last time Duke won it all? Quit being a yankees fan.
The problem Mackcat is we aren't talking about UCONN or Duke. We are talking about UK. If you areOk with what you see out there I suppose I'll just have to surrender to you. As to being a Yankees fan I'm not, I'm a UK(much higher standard)fan since 1965 and what I see out there aint UK basketball. I repeat TUBBY RESIGN or be fired I don't give a Hoot in Hades which.
I can give you 9 million reasons why you better hope he resigns. His buy-out is large!

[KennesawCat]

Mackcat wrote: KennesawCat wrote: BigblueDrew wrote:
WHAT is it going to take to make a change. Does ANYBODY in the Atheletic Department have any GUTS. I hope so, because watching these last few seasons is KILLING this old cat fan.

I believe that everyone in the athletic department, the boosters, Whitaker Bank, et al, understand what needs to be done.

It just has to wait 'til season's end. And it will.

There is no way in hell he gets pushed out after this year! he is gonna win 20 games and get in the dance. Two years removed from a final 8. UConn is not gonna get in at all. Is calhoun getting fired? When was the last time Duke won it all? Quit being a yankees fan.

Uconn is a flash in the pan program. They were a recepient of a group of NBA bound players who got together and decided to go to the same school. There is not a following for that team, and there is no big money invested there. Expectations are totally different.

[Mackcat]

KennesawCat wrote: Mackcat wrote: KennesawCat wrote: BigblueDrew wrote:
WHAT is it going to take to make a change. Does ANYBODY in the Atheletic Department have any GUTS. I hope so, because watching these last few seasons is KILLING this old cat fan.

I believe that everyone in the athletic department, the boosters, Whitaker Bank, et al, understand what needs to be done.

It just has to wait 'til season's end. And it will.

There is no way in hell he gets pushed out after this year! he is gonna win 20 games and get in the dance. Two years removed from a final 8. UConn is not gonna get in at all. Is calhoun getting fired? When was the last time Duke won it all? Quit being a yankees fan.

Uconn is a flash in the pan program. They were a recepient of a group of NBA bound players who got together and decided to go to the same school. There is not a following for that team, and there is no big money invested there. Expectations are totally different.




That may be the most vain, off the mark post ever. FWIW UNC just lost to Maryland. Imagine that parity has hit college basketball.

[BigblueDrew]

As I recall Mackcat Eddie Sutton got run out of town. I also LOVE how people making excuses for Tubby's mediocrity point out what an abberation Pitino's run was and how it can never happen agian. This is as big a nonsense as those saying we willnever get to a Final Four with Tubby Smith as a coach(something his crowd always point out as nonsense). Of course we could get back where we were under Pitino. He was the right guy at the right place at the right time. If that can happen once it could happen agian, especially here. Tubby couldn't do it but that doesn't mean someone else couldn't; I for one am past ready to find out.

[Dampier]

Anyway, getting back to the jist of this post.

Before anyone posts big posts about the fan's negativity, why don't you write Tubby Smith and ask him to please STOP THE NEGATIVITY he voices againsts his own players over the radio.

Your big posts about fan negativity will not cut it anymore.

[Mackcat]

Dampier wrote: Anyway, getting back to the jist of this post.

Before anyone posts big posts about the fan's negativity, why don't you write Tubby Smith and ask him to please STOP THE NEGATIVITY he voices againsts his own players over the radio.

Your big posts about fan negativity will not cut it anymore.

I used to read these excact posts about a coach being negative, and blaming his players. It's just that the name is Smith now instead of Brooks. Everyone wanted to run him out, but now their buying Music City Bowl dvds' and getting season tickets. Almost makes one think that it's best to let things play out.

[KennesawCat]

Mackcat wrote: So did that HIGHER standard about lose it between 78 - 96 when we did not win a title. Come on! This is all about the fact that we were spoiled by the run Pitino had in the 90's. It was the perfect storm. Gone out to see, and not coming again. Did Eddied Suttton uphold that HIGHER standard?


Coach Hall had one 10 loss season the year after the '78 championship. He did not have another 10 loss season until his last year in '85. He retired after that year under some pressure, but he knew the game had passed him by.

Sutton... need I say more?

this year will be Tubby's 5th 10 loss season.

You know, I wouldn't have a problem with our last two season's records if I saw a coach who was getting the most of his player's and his program, or if I saw a stud class coming in next year.

What I see is a team that has junior McD's who don't seam to like it here. A senior class that most mid-majors would not have. A freshment class being stymied for whatever reason. And not much of a recruiting class. I see two stud recruits who would have ample playing time here, but can't seem to make up there mind about playing a lot here, or playing less at the other schools on their list.

Another poster on here said that Tubby may be pressuring Stevenson and Porter to transfer. I hope this is not true. But if it is, it just magnifies tubby's inability to connect with today's kids.

[audacious1]

Mackcat wrote: Sorry, but I feal for Tubby right now. He coached his *** off, and was 100 percent into it. He looked like a guy who had to have this game. You could tell he was crushed in his voice on the postgame.

Yes and you can only do so much as a coach then it's up to your players to execute the gameplan on the court. As a coach myself (albeit, junior league) things can be very frustrating at times when the players don't do what we've practiced.

[KennesawCat]

Mackcat wrote:
That may be the most vain, off the mark post ever. FWIW UNC just lost to Maryland. Imagine that parity has hit college basketball.


I'd take UNC's success the past three years over UK's. It would make a loss to Vandy today a lot more palitable.

Sorry to shoot down yet another of your arguments.

[Mackcat]

KennesawCat wrote: Mackcat wrote: So did that HIGHER standard about lose it between 78 - 96 when we did not win a title. Come on! This is all about the fact that we were spoiled by the run Pitino had in the 90's. It was the perfect storm. Gone out to see, and not coming again. Did Eddied Suttton uphold that HIGHER standard?


Coach Hall had one 10 loss season the year after the '78 championship. He did not have another 10 loss season until his last year in '85. He retired after that year under some pressure, but he knew the game had passed him by.

Sutton... need I say more?

this year will be Tubby's 5th 10 loss season.

You know, I wouldn't have a problem with our last two season's records if I saw a coach who was getting the most of his player's and his program, or if I saw a stud class coming in next year.

What I see is a team that has junior McD's who don't seam to like it here. A senior class that most mid-majors would not have. A freshment class being stymied for whatever reason. And not much of a recruiting class. I see two stud recruits who would have ample playing time here, but can't seem to make up there mind about playing a lot here, or playing less at the other schools on their list.

Another poster on here said that Tubby may be pressuring Stevenson and Porter to transfer. I hope this is not true. But if it is, it just magnifies tubby's inability to connect with today's kids.


So another poster has some info that Tubby maybe pushing Stevenson, and Porter to transfer? thats nothing. I got a guy that tells me that he is pushing crawford, and Bradley to leave so that they can start a death metal band.

[KennesawCat]

Mackcat wrote:
So another poster has some info that Tubby maybe pushing Stevenson, and Porter to transfer? thats nothing. I got a guy that tells me that he is pushing crawford, and Bradley to leave so that they can start a death metal band.

:rolleyes:

[Dampier]

Mackcat wrote: Dampier wrote: Anyway, getting back to the jist of this post.

Before anyone posts big posts about the fan's negativity, why don't you write Tubby Smith and ask him to please STOP THE NEGATIVITY he voices againsts his own players over the radio.

Your big posts about fan negativity will not cut it anymore.

I used to read these excact posts about a coach being negative, and blaming his players. It's just that the name is Smith now instead of Brooks. Everyone wanted to run him out, but now their buying Music City Bowl dvds' and getting season tickets. Almost makes one think that it's best to let things play out.

Not so sure just what you mean it is best to let things play out. I am talking about Tubby Smith's negativity towards his own playes on the radio. Maybe you are in the wrong post. Sorry if you have ventured into the wrong place.



Please, someone let Tubby Smith know that HIS NEGATIVITY on the radio is affecting his own players!

[Mackcat]

Dampier wrote: Mackcat wrote: Dampier wrote: Anyway, getting back to the jist of this post.

Before anyone posts big posts about the fan's negativity, why don't you write Tubby Smith and ask him to please STOP THE NEGATIVITY he voices againsts his own players over the radio.

Your big posts about fan negativity will not cut it anymore.

I used to read these excact posts about a coach being negative, and blaming his players. It's just that the name is Smith now instead of Brooks. Everyone wanted to run him out, but now their buying Music City Bowl dvds' and getting season tickets. Almost makes one think that it's best to let things play out.

Not so sure just what you mean it is best to let things play out. I am talking about Tubby Smith's negativity towards his own playes on the radio. Maybe you are in the wrong post. Sorry if you have ventured into the wrong place.



Please, someone let Tubby Smith know that HIS NEGATIVITY on the radio is affecting his own players!

Why don't you call his show on monday night and tell him? I have to ask, you say this negativity is affecting the players. Do you know any of them?

[KY Native in IN]

Mackcat wrote:
BigblueDrew wrote: Mackcat wrote: KennesawCat wrote: BigblueDrew wrote:
WHAT is it going to take to make a change. Does ANYBODY in the Atheletic Department have any GUTS. I hope so, because watching these last few seasons is KILLING this old cat fan.Â*Â*

I believe that everyone in the athletic department, the boosters, Whitaker Bank, et al, understand what needs to be done.

It just has to wait 'til season's end.Â* And it will.

Â*There is no way in hell he gets pushed out after this year! he is gonna win 20 games and get in the dance. Two years removed from a final 8. UConn is not gonna get in at all. Is calhoun getting fired? When was the last time Duke won it all? Quit being a yankees fan.
The problem Mackcat is we aren't talking about UCONN or Duke. We are talking about UK. If you areÂ*Ok with what you see out there I suppose I'll just have to surrender to you. As to being a Yankees fan I'm not, I'm a UK(much higher standard)Â*fan since 1965 and what I see out there aint UK basketball. I repeat TUBBY RESIGN or be fired I don't give a Hoot in Hades which.Â*Â*Â*So did that HIGHER standard about lose it between 78 - 96 when we did not winÂ* a title. Come on! This is all about the fact that we were spoiled by the run Pitino had in the 90's. It was the perfect storm. Gone out to see, and not coming again. Did Eddied Suttton uphold that HIGHER standard?


it always kills me when people try to dumb UK down to other programs...people think the only bright spots in UK's history are the
years 95-98....like "we're really not that great anyways, tubby's done just as good as anybody"...tubby only slams his players because he's covering his own butt, he's too prideful to admit that his "system" is failing...i mean if you were being paid millions and you weren't getting it done, it's just survival...he'd have to be blind and deaf to not know the expectations THAT STILL EXIST....hopefully not just from the fanbase but from the one's signing those big checks...excuses only buy you so much time...if you can't get it done at UK you can't get it done...everything is set up for you to be successful and keep the tradition alive...and tubby is not doing that...this whole thing has gotten away from him and hopefully something will happen to turn the boat around...tubby is not UK basketball...i'm sorry he's just not...

[wildcat74]

Mackcat wrote: KennesawCat wrote: Mackcat wrote: KennesawCat wrote: BigblueDrew wrote:
WHAT is it going to take to make a change. Does ANYBODY in the Atheletic Department have any GUTS. I hope so, because watching these last few seasons is KILLING this old cat fan.

I believe that everyone in the athletic department, the boosters, Whitaker Bank, et al, understand what needs to be done.

It just has to wait 'til season's end. And it will.

There is no way in hell he gets pushed out after this year! he is gonna win 20 games and get in the dance. Two years removed from a final 8. UConn is not gonna get in at all. Is calhoun getting fired? When was the last time Duke won it all? Quit being a yankees fan.

Uconn is a flash in the pan program. They were a recepient of a group of NBA bound players who got together and decided to go to the same school. There is not a following for that team, and there is no big money invested there. Expectations are totally different.




That may be the most vain, off the mark post ever. FWIW UNC just lost to Maryland. Imagine that parity has hit college basketball.




Some people simply just dont get it. PARITY?!?!?!?!?

Mackat, how long have you been a UK fan? Just wondering

[Dampier]

Mackcat wrote: Dampier wrote: Mackcat wrote: Dampier wrote: Anyway, getting back to the jist of this post.

Before anyone posts big posts about the fan's negativity, why don't you write Tubby Smith and ask him to please STOP THE NEGATIVITY he voices againsts his own players over the radio.

Your big posts about fan negativity will not cut it anymore.

I used to read these excact posts about a coach being negative, and blaming his players. It's just that the name is Smith now instead of Brooks. Everyone wanted to run him out, but now their buying Music City Bowl dvds' and getting season tickets. Almost makes one think that it's best to let things play out.

Not so sure just what you mean it is best to let things play out. I am talking about Tubby Smith's negativity towards his own playes on the radio. Maybe you are in the wrong post. Sorry if you have ventured into the wrong place.



Please, someone let Tubby Smith know that HIS NEGATIVITY on the radio is affecting his own players!

Why don't you call his show on monday night and tell him? I have to ask, you say this negativity is affecting the players. Do you know any of them?
IF I did know any of the players, would that take Tubby off the hook for the way he put down the players on the radio today?

[Stretch]

Tubby coached his butt off and he had the team in a position to win a crucial game. After a first half of intense and committed play, however, the second half was littered with unforced errors and poor decisions. The players themselves would be the first to tell you that Tubby's soul-baring radio comments about their poor execution and their inability to make the plays that needed to be made on the backboard and defensively were spot on. They are, after all, grown men; kids younger than them are fighting and dying in Iraq every day.

You folks need to remember that the firestorm tone of this board was decided by one bad bounce on one missed free throw. The Byers miss kicks softly off the rim, Morris swallows the rebound and Cats win. Because it didn't, you crucify Tubby Smith like he is worse than the 9/11 bombers. One measly bounce, and the last shot of Tubby on TV before Byers stepped to the line showed him clenching his fists and screaming "rebound!!" Yes, the can-Tubby crowd caught a huge break today.

[Mackcat]

wildcat74 wrote: Mackcat wrote: KennesawCat wrote: Mackcat wrote: KennesawCat wrote: BigblueDrew wrote:
WHAT is it going to take to make a change. Does ANYBODY in the Atheletic Department have any GUTS. I hope so, because watching these last few seasons is KILLING this old cat fan.

I believe that everyone in the athletic department, the boosters, Whitaker Bank, et al, understand what needs to be done.

It just has to wait 'til season's end. And it will.

There is no way in hell he gets pushed out after this year! he is gonna win 20 games and get in the dance. Two years removed from a final 8. UConn is not gonna get in at all. Is calhoun getting fired? When was the last time Duke won it all? Quit being a yankees fan.

Uconn is a flash in the pan program. They were a recepient of a group of NBA bound players who got together and decided to go to the same school. There is not a following for that team, and there is no big money invested there. Expectations are totally different.




That may be the most vain, off the mark post ever. FWIW UNC just lost to Maryland. Imagine that parity has hit college basketball.




Some people simply just dont get it. PARITY?!?!?!?!?

Mackat, how long have you been a UK fan? Just wondering
Im 36 years old, love these guys, closer to the football side of things, had friends on those teams for like the last 18 years. Thanks for asking. This is a divided house. My fear is that we will be more divided if this team makes a run in the tourney. If they can make a final 8, what will you guys want?

[benny17]

KennesawCat wrote: Mackcat wrote: So did that HIGHER standard about lose it between 78 - 96 when we did not win a title. Come on! This is all about the fact that we were spoiled by the run Pitino had in the 90's. It was the perfect storm. Gone out to see, and not coming again. Did Eddied Suttton uphold that HIGHER standard?


Coach Hall had one 10 loss season the year after the '78 championship. He did not have another 10 loss season until his last year in '85. He retired after that year under some pressure, but he knew the game had passed him by.

Sutton... need I say more?

this year will be Tubby's 5th 10 loss season.

You know, I wouldn't have a problem with our last two season's records if I saw a coach who was getting the most of his player's and his program, or if I saw a stud class coming in next year.

What I see is a team that has junior McD's who don't seam to like it here. A senior class that most mid-majors would not have. A freshment class being stymied for whatever reason. And not much of a recruiting class. I see two stud recruits who would have ample playing time here, but can't seem to make up there mind about playing a lot here, or playing less at the other schools on their list.

Another poster on here said that Tubby may be pressuring Stevenson and Porter to transfer. I hope this is not true. But if it is, it just magnifies tubby's inability to connect with today's kids.



Thats the way I feel too. If all the players gave 100% and Tubby gave 100% and we tried our hardest every game too win then I would be ok with a 10 loss seasons. But when you have top 10 team talent wise and we play like this I can't stand it. And WHY would you have Thomas in on the last play of the game?

[poodoo]

Stretch wrote: Tubby coached his butt off and he had the team in a position to win a crucial game. After a first half of intense and committed play, however, the second half was littered with unforced errors and poor decisions. The players themselves would be the first to tell you that Tubby's soul-baring radio comments about their poor execution and their inability to make the plays that needed to be made on the backboard and defensively were spot on. They are, after all, grown men; kids younger than them are fighting and dying in Iraq every day.

You folks need to remember that the firestorm tone of this board was decided by one bad bounce on one missed free throw. The Byers miss kicks softly off the rim, Morris swallows the rebound and Cats win. Because it didn't, you crucify Tubby Smith like he is worse than the 9/11 bombers. One measly bounce, and the last shot of Tubby on TV before Byers stepped to the line showed him clenching his fists and screaming "rebound!!" Yes, the can-Tubby crowd caught a huge break today.






Exactly, Stretch.

Too, how thankful I am that I didn't open the P.M. I had received. After I received a hurtful one, I don't open them unless I know the sender. I had no idea the P.M. would have been one upset with me.

I heard the last part of Tubby's remarks. As I had posted earlier, I was surprised as he is always so quick to take up for players. Yesterday that did not seem to be the case, as he answered a question about Morris' only taking five shots by saying that he needs to work harder to get open. Also in regard to Joe Crawford's not starting, he answered that it was for missing class, and that SHOULD not happen, period. Tubby sounded upset, and I'm sure he was as he had known how important the game was and had coached especially hard, according to those who were at the game.

This issue was addressed on the Cats' Pause Show tonight. Those guys noted that it was highly unusual for Tubby not to defend his players. The hosts, who often interview Tubby, said that Tubby is one of the easiest coacheson players they have ever seen (at his press conferences.They even noted that he goes too far in that direction, in their opinion. That totally conflicts with the post objecting to Tubby's comments about players.

FWIW, I read the CJ and Pitino comments all the time. I have always wondered how Pitino gets away with some of the things he says about his players in public, still gettting them to play hard for him. Tubby has always seemed very tame and supportive of his players (although, again, he did make those comments after the Vandy game). Tubby did seem upset with Rondo and Bradley about going one on one a couple of games last year. I always listen to those postgame shows and the radio show. That has certainly been my reaction to Tubby's comments, overall, same as Matt May and Darrell Bird. Go figure. :)