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Deep Blue
03-17-2007, 02:37 PM
I was browsing a KU board to get their perspective and came upon the following analysis, presumably from a KU fan. What do you guys think? Thought it mightspark a good discussion of the matchup:

Author:NWGreybeard(dsl-209-151-55-146.fiberpipe.net)
Date:03-16-2007 22:27

Kentucky's a better matchup than Villanova would have been, simply because VU is one of those one-dimensional, guard-oriented teams that wins by outshooting its opponent--when they're on, they can be lethal. Fortunately for Kentucky, this wasn't one of those nights.

Kentucky, on the other hand, wins (on the recently rare occasions when they do) by playing the kind of disciplined, balanced execution Tubby Smith is known for. When they have the talent and the leadership, that makes them formidable; when they don't, it just makes them predictable. If you have better talent and a similar commitment to execution, you can beat them even on a bad day because UK doesn't have any ringers to upset the equation.

Randolph Morris is an elite talent in the post, but his motivation and attitude are strangely inconsistent. He has size and strength, grace, and a full repertoire of post moves, but Kentucky has a hard time getting him the ball, partly because the guards are not of the same elite quality but also because Morris doesn't consistently work hard enough to make himself available for the inlet pass. Plus, when he does make the effort to fight through screens and the usual low-post mud wrestling to get open, if he doesn't get the ball he gets discouraged and tends to quit for the next few possessions. If you can pressure him with a solid post defender on his back and deny him the ball with perimeter help, he'll disappear, and without his presence Kentucky isn't even an average team. His backup, Obrzut, is a lumbering stiff who will make Sasha look like a ballet dancer.

Joe Crawford is a decent 6'5" combo guard who averages about 14 points and 4 rebounds a game, but he's not a particularly good long-range shooter nor even an average ball-handler. He does better work inside getting garbage points, but like everyone else on the team seems to lack the kind of fire that would enable him to overcome his talent deficit with spirit and hard work. His backcourt partner, Ramel Bradley, is a shorter version of the same composite, averaging a similar 13-and-3+. They're not good penetrators and both are vulnerable to pressure from quick, athletic defenders.

In short, Kentucky plays basic, straight-forward basketball without the freakish talent to impose that style on better teams nor the gimmicks that let them pull off upsets. They run good offense, but the guards are only average ballhandlers and their primary post player won't outwork anybody to maximize his talent. No shifty point guard and no deadeye shooters means that Kentucky only beats the teams that have similar or less talent. Even during the late-season swoon that saw Florida lose to LSU (without Davis), Vanderbilt, and Tennessee, the Gators still handled Kentucky twice. Unlike the Dynasty Defender, I still have a lot of respect for Tubby Smith as a coach, and I'm sure his team will play to their ability; nevertheless, if the Jayhawks play to their ability, this game won't be close past the first 15 minutes. Tubby's starters don't match up in talent, and he has no respectable bench. Too bad, really. Beating KU to make a Sweet 16 might have secured Tubby's job; getting drubbed in the second round will only add fuel to the funeral pyre the fanaticals are building for him.

Classof93
03-17-2007, 03:03 PM
WOW! That dude knows his stuff. He summarized UK better than I ever could and I have watched every game we have played this season!!

Deep Blue
03-17-2007, 03:10 PM
Classof93 wrote: WOW! That dude knows his stuff. He summarized UK better than I ever could and I have watched every game we have played this season!!

That was my thought as well. This guy is either a college basketball guru, or maybe a UK fan "ghostwriting" on a KU board? In either event, I can't really fault his analysis.

bigbaloo
03-17-2007, 10:12 PM
"getting drubbed in the second round will only add fuel to the funeral pyre the fanaticals are building for him."



Well written, but I think he's full of it. Besides the Memphis game early and maybe the away game against Florida, we haven't been 'drubbed' by anyone really.

I just got done looking at Kansas schedule and I think we can take them. The big 12 is weak as hell minus 3 teams(TX, TX am, Kansas). Texas Tech is decent, but no better than say Georgia or Arkansas. In fact Arkansas beat TT by 15!TT would have maybe won 5-6 conference games in the SEC. Yet they beat Kansas by 5.

I know they beat Florida which was a great win on the road. But outside that not all that impressive. First of all they lost to Oral Roberts for god sakes! They lost to Depaul by 7, at team we beat by 6. They lost to Texas AM, a team who was spanked by LSU by 12. They beat Texas twice, but just how good is Texas? Texas was beaten 9 by Villinova, a team we just handled without really playing a great game. They did beat LSU and Arkansas, but both games where very close.(beat LSU by 1 , Ark. by 4)



Bottom line...we can take them. They're cupcake schedule is going to bite the in the arse!

DCWildcat
03-17-2007, 10:15 PM
I think it's very, very good, my only real beef being that I think he underrated Bradley, who's pretty good at penetrating.

patpat4three
03-17-2007, 10:27 PM
DCWildcat wrote: I think it's very, very good, my only real beef being that I think he underrated Bradley, who's pretty good at penetrating.

yea if anyone says that ramel doesnt have any fire hasnt ever seen him play

ukwebfan
03-17-2007, 10:35 PM
They never heard of Jodie Meeks? Too bad, for them.
:wildcatface

Will Lavender
03-17-2007, 10:37 PM
I don't buy that that was written by a KU fan.

Tubby's starters don't match up in talent, and he has no respectable bench. Too bad, really. Beating KU to make a Sweet 16 might have secured Tubby's job; getting drubbed in the second round will only add fuel to the funeral pyre the fanaticals are building for him.

Too bad? What kind of fan says that about his own team?

Dwight Schrute
03-17-2007, 10:40 PM
"Kentucky, on the other hand, wins (on the recently rare occasions when they do) by playing the kind of disciplined, balanced execution Tubby Smith is known for. When they have the talent and the leadership, that makes them formidable; when they don't, it just makes them predictable. If you have better talent and a similar commitment to execution, you can beat them even on a bad day because UK doesn't have any ringers to upset the equation."

Sadly, this is true.

nocodecub
03-17-2007, 10:44 PM
I think he's saying too bad for Tubby, isn't he? My reading associates that line as the setup for the last part.

He's just a ball fan who thinks Tubby takes undue pressure from parts of the fanbase.

Stucat
03-18-2007, 06:03 AM
nocodecub wrote: I think he's saying too bad for Tubby, isn't he? My reading associates that line as the setup for the last part.

He's just a ball fan who thinks Tubby takes undue pressure from parts of the fanbase.

It could be a Kansas fan as they tend to keep pretty good tabs on most elite basketball programs even when they are down. I know there was a bitter tear up at Kansas when Roy Williams left. More bitter than anything we went through including the time when Rick took the job at Louisville. Many Kansas fans were bitter at Dean Smith because they saw Smith as the guy who pulled Roy Williams away from Kansas. Being a KU graduate like Coach Rupp of Kentucky the KU fans thought that Dean Smith should not have pressured Williams to come back to North Carolina. I remember some of them saying that they only wished that Dean Smith cared as much for his alma mater as Roy Williams cared for his.