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I. Melvin
04-02-2007, 04:52 PM
The kneejerk reaction to HGH in sports is interesting to me.
I've known enough guys who injected steroids to know the dangers of that behavior, but I'm not aware of PROVEN negative consequences of HGH use.
Are there any?
Also, is injectable HGH the only effective kind? Are there any spray or edible versions that work?
Thanks!
TransientAlum
04-02-2007, 06:01 PM
Without knowing the direction of the question:
Unless it has changed a great deal, you are not actually dealing with human HGH. It comes from, or did, from primates. For internal organs, never heard anything bad but think hard on the phrase, "Comes from primates".
I think you are just asking for general info, you dont seem the person who is preparing to travel to Mexico anytime soon.
It is not usually tested for, even now. It is not detectable with the same testing as for normal steroids one reason it became popular 15 or 20 years ago. The people who have used itare mixing primate growth hormone with their own human growth hormone. Research whatgrowth hormone determines about a person to get a better understanding of the negative side effects of putting, possibly, a gorilla's or spider monkey's hormones into a human.
Even more so than anything else, HGH issomething I would never considering messing with.
Oh, I have only heard of it being injected.
sardiscat
04-04-2007, 10:38 AM
I've read a bunch of literature on HGH and have fallen for some of it. The only kind that has a proven track record of producing actualresults is the injections (at $1000 per month). Thosewill result inyourdeveloping muscles and losing fat. It's a relatively new therapy, though, and nobody knows what the long-term consequences might be of taking the injections. Therefore, doctors who are on the up and up don't give the treatments to just anybody. Athletes and others who desire to be more youthful and have the money to pay for it seem to have no problem finding doctors who are not on the up and up to prescribe it for them, though. Because humans secrete HGH, it is hard to detect in a drug test whenanathleteis taking supplements of it, but apparently not impossible because it is a banned substance for Olympics purposes. Your own body secretes HGH, but at declining levels as you age (thus you lose the thin youthful look as you get older). The two times when your body secretessignificant amountsis about an hour after you fall into deep sleep at night andduring the last one or two painful repetitions in a set when you are lifting weights. (Feel the burn? Rejoice, for your body is at that very instant secreting HGH. Thus, lifting weights--stop the presses!--results in muscle gain). The amino acid arginine supposedly causes your body to secrete more HGH than it will in the absence of arginine, and taking arginine (on an empty stomach) before going to bed thus supposedly will increase the amount of HGH secreted by older folks. I haven't read anything that says taking arginine before working out will increase the amount of HGH your body secretes during workouts. The literature says that the amount of HGH your body produces during workouts is a small fraction of what it produces when you are asleep at night, and most of what you produce at night occurs within an hour ofyour first period of deep sleep. I've purchased supplements before that advertised they would increase the amount of HGH my aging body is producing. When I read the list of ingredients on the label, though, the main one was arginine rather than any big new thing. The last one I ordered claimed to deliver arginine in a form that was more readily absorbable by the body and thus would produce more HGH than plain old arginine supplements. (It came in the form of a fizzy tablet that you dissolve in water and drink on an empty stomach before you go to bed). I can't say I noticed any difference. I can't say I've noticed anydifference when I've taken arginine in any form than when I haven't. What I have noticed to make a big difference is when I get to the gym like it was a religion. My muscles definitely get bigger and my fatless when I work out six times a week than when I go home and sit on the couch watching teeveeevery night. I have also in the past bought an aerosol spray that was supposed to increase the amount of HGH that your body produces naturally. I didn't notice any results, and I later read an article saying such sprays don't work because your stomach acid destroys the supplement before it has time to cause a release of HGH. I've never before heardanything to the effectthat HGH was actually primate growth hormone. It seems that by definition "human growth hormone" would have to come from humans (or, more acurately, be produced in the lab as a duplicate of what humans produce in their bodies). If it came from primates, seems like it would be possible to detect on drug tests, since gorilla growth hormone (or whatever primate it is coming from) would not occur naturally in the bodies of humans.
BOURBON TOWN CAT FAN
04-04-2007, 12:42 PM
"I've read a bunch of literature on HGH and have fallen for some of it. The only kind that has a proven track record of producing actualresults is the injections (at $1000 per month)."
Same here, I've tried some of the liquid oral forms sold at GNC, and they are a joke !
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