OT, Jeff Ruby

[rickdacatkilla]

Hero or Racist?

[MercerTitans]

Hero or Racist?

I'm sure there are other blacks that eat at Jeff Ruby's, so I am going to say "neither". Jeff Ruby's did what they thought was right. I don't think it was a question of race, but only of charachter (and no CardsRToast, not Derrick Caracter).

[TrueblueCATfan]

I would have done the same thing........he is a killer who is walking around free.....

[CARDSRTOAST]

I'm sure there are other blacks that eat at Jeff Ruby's, so I am going to say "neither". Jeff Ruby's did what they thought was right. I don't think it was a question of race, but only of charachter (and no CardsRToast, not Derrick Caracter). I applaud Jeff Ruby.

[lighthouse]

Hero would be stretching it, but I'm proud of him.

[KWICD]

I don't know him to call him a racist, but he is definatley not a hero.

[BigBlue75]

Hero. I applaud him. Racism doens't even enter into it since OJ ate at Jeff Ruby's restaurants many times before his "incident", as well as the fact that there were african americans in the restaurant at the time OJ tried to get in.

Louis Coleman and his cronies will get their 30 second sound bites on the news and this will die a quiet death, especially when they find out they don't have a leg to stand on in a lawsuit.

[surveyor]

As the term "hero" has been so watered down over the years, I have to concur with neither, although I commend Mr. Ruby for acting on his beliefs.

[Yuleofell]

Ruby and O.J. both got some free publicity out of the deal. The media is making an awful lot of out this. O.J. did not get to eat where he wanted to. That seems a small inconvenience compared to other bigger issues we need to work on in our society. This one should just quietly die.

Personally, I thought the book was in EXTREMELY poor taste and O.J. deserves a little grief over it. Like it or not, the courts found him not guilty of murder. The book had to be horrible for the families involved though.

[rickdacatkilla]

True Story: This year at the derby, OJ walked through the paddock and a guy behind us shouted "OJ over here" we all quickly informed him we didn't want OJ anywhere near us to quit yelling at him besides he is a murderer, his reply: "so what he is a heisman winner"

I wish more people were like Jeff Ruby....

[catfan02]

We finally agree on something!! Cheers

[teamchemistry09]

I for one dont think OJ is a murderer but he does know who did it and probable paid them. Call me crazy, but allow me to explain.

OJ had 35 minutes to travel from his house, 10 miles to her house, kill everyone, drive back 10 miles with blood all over him, clean his white bronco and white interior, jump over an 8 foot wall around his property (because the limo driver was in his driveway) with 2 bad knees, go inside and shower, wash/hide the bloody clothes, and pack for his trip that weekend. Also, this was late at night with the limo driver in his driveway. What do you do if you are sitting around at night when its quiet? You look over at every noise you hear. OJs Bronco was less than a block from the limo.

You say: The bloody socks BUT they were still wet from 12 hours earlier. How long does it take blood to dry? Why were they on the bed in one picture and in the floor in another one?

You say:The gloves BUT why was one under a flower pot in the backyard with the bodies and the other one in his back yard. Both still dripping blood. How long does it take blood to dry? Over 12 hours right?

You say: The blood on his bronco door. The blood spot was smaller than a quarter and the cops noticed it from 50 feet away? I bet. Hang on, I have to go next door because I see a quarter sized drop of blood on my neighbors door.

Also, the lady staying with Nicole at the time, who was the same height, close in weight, with the same hair color, was in some very serious debt with drug dealers and the mafia. Could that be it? Doubtful

OJ is innocent of the murders but does know who did it

[surveyor]

I don't know where you got your info from, but for starters, it isn't 10 miles between S. Bundy Drive and N. Rockingham.

http://image.maps.yahoo.com/overviewmap?OVMAPDATA=VsYCzeR32XUqYMlfqD8ndRfcN5C7 Yfsg.nEq_jpNT6Z76LEQG9B2mg5ZzPZ73Sg0_m1DYVKmqL00xc 68VSd1kiBeMDh08n8hSLdG8oRgIXYPbMJbgcDm2iP3SPndnbk-&ORG=zTDlG_Mmhn0ienSpQ3lUtglB31HigZVJn8y9qxDpc16pKR OUzcpaemTFCakxCyoC.F4RALM8hYXreI1uJrCdE8etGCJ32k87 PTiMN6i9EV0ylJ8Dg.SWL2foZg--

According to yahoo.maps, it's a mere 1.9 miles and can be made in 5 minutes.

As to spotting the blood on the door, police noticed that while looking the truck over while it sat half way in the street - as they were preparing to run the plate - per court transcripts.

AND even if what you suggest is close to accurate, is that really any better? Knowing who did it and remain silent? Nope. Same as being the murder, IMO.

[TrueblueCATfan]

OJ simpson is guilty..plain and simple..............he got off because of who is he

[lighthouse]

It's amazing how threads can change topics so fast. :)

[rickdacatkilla]

OJ simpson is guilty..plain and simple..............he got off because of who is he

True, you are coming up on 10,000 post....Crikey is there a prize or a party for that?

[BigBlue75]

It's amazing how threads can change topics so fast. :)

Yeah, it started out as a has been football player with a dubious past getting kicked out of a five star restaurant, and now we're re-trying the Nicole Simpson murder.

Where's Johnny Cochran when you need him? ;)

[rickdacatkilla]

We finally agree on something!! Cheers

haha, see that wasn't so hard...Just wanted to put this out here today to show that Wildcat and Card fans can agree on some things(beside we all hate everything Duke)....ding ding ding, we have a winner...!!! Thanx for those that took the time to respond.

[TrueblueCATfan]

True, you are coming up on 10,000 post....Crikey is there a prize or a party for that?

yeah I want a PARTY

[teamchemistry09]

I don't know where you got your info from, but for starters, it isn't 10 miles between S. Bundy Drive and N. Rockingham.

http://image.maps.yahoo.com/overviewmap?OVMAPDATA=VsYCzeR32XUqYMlfqD8ndRfcN5C7 Yfsg.nEq_jpNT6Z76LEQG9B2mg5ZzPZ73Sg0_m1DYVKmqL00xc 68VSd1kiBeMDh08n8hSLdG8oRgIXYPbMJbgcDm2iP3SPndnbk-&ORG=zTDlG_Mmhn0ienSpQ3lUtglB31HigZVJn8y9qxDpc16pKR OUzcpaemTFCakxCyoC.F4RALM8hYXreI1uJrCdE8etGCJ32k87 PTiMN6i9EV0ylJ8Dg.SWL2foZg--

According to yahoo.maps, it's a mere 1.9 miles and can be made in 5 minutes.

As to spotting the blood on the door, police noticed that while looking the truck over while it sat half way in the street - as they were preparing to run the plate - per court transcripts.

AND even if what you suggest is close to accurate, is that really any better? Knowing who did it and remain silent? Nope. Same as being the murder, IMO.


So I messed up one fact. The rest is true. I covered his case in a forensics class 3 years ago and I got a copy of all the court documents and pictures. Seems like the cops thought they had him pinned so didnt really care. Kind of like Jon Benet Ramsey

[surveyor]

:icon_lol:

[4thecards]

OJ is a turd, and if I owned a restaurant, I should be able to serve and not serve anyone I choose.

I wouldn't say he's a hero, but it took colossal balls.

[MercerTitans]

OJ is a turd, and if I owned a restaurant, I should be able to serve and not serve anyone I choose.

I wouldn't say he's a hero, but it took colossal balls.


A-freakin-men to that!

[teamchemistry09]

If you have a reason to refuse someone service you can but not liking someone isnt a reason. I have been a server and in a restaraunt for close to 3 years now and there are people who come in all the time that I dont like and I cant just tell them to leave. But if they do something to get thrown out thats different

[surveyor]

A server in a restaurant and owner of a restaurant are entirely two different entities........................

[teamchemistry09]

A server in a restaurant and owner of a restaurant are entirely two different entities........................

You are exactly right. A server is generally less responsible than an owner so the blame goes straight to the owner. As a server, you simply dont care who comes and goes as long as you make your money, whether you like them or not. But as an owner, he should have known better than to refuse him service for no reason other than a feeling towards him. The owner should accept the fact that he was going to eat in his restaraunt and just let him stay unless he had reason to kick him out. A server can deny service to someone and have another server take over. An owner can deny service to someone and it goes to the papers. The owner should have been smarter than that.

[CATHEAD]

You are exactly right. A server is generally less responsible than an owner so the blame goes straight to the owner. As a server, you simply dont care who comes and goes as long as you make your money, whether you like them or not. But as an owner, he should have known better than to refuse him service for no reason other than a feeling towards him. The owner should accept the fact that he was going to eat in his restaraunt and just let him stay unless he had reason to kick him out. A server can deny service to someone and have another server take over. An owner can deny service to someone and it goes to the papers. The owner should have been smarter than that.

It's called standing up for what you believe in, no matter what the cost, and there aren't enough people in this world who do it.

[surveyor]

A server can deny service to someone and have another server take over. An owner can deny service to someone and it goes to the papers. The owner should have been smarter than that.

Smarter than what? Certainly, if it bites the owner in the ace, then it was dumb.
However, in this case, it clearly did not hurt Mr. Ruby.

Indeed, the one making a stink over the whole mess was Simpson's attorney, claiming he would "go after his liquor license" and that Mr. Ruby "messed with the wrong guy".
Fast forward to Saturday's C-J, and the attorney is singing a completely different tune. Laughably, he's claiming they "could care less" about the incident. What a dumbace attorney Simpson has. Saying he could care less means he cares. Dumbace attorney.
He then says that Ruby's the one keeping this public, when the whole time it's been Simpson's attorney with his threats of a lawsuit. However, Simpson now has no interest in pursuing legal action.

Smart move on his part. Let it die.
Thems the breaks for someone who either got away with murder or is a slimeball coward who knows the murderer and refuses to finger them.

Either way, he's a lowlife.

[lighthouse]

Smarter than what? Certainly, if it bites the owner in the ace, then it was dumb.
However, in this case, it clearly did not hurt Mr. Ruby.

Indeed, the one making a stink over the whole mess was Simpson's attorney, claiming he would "go after his liquor license" and that Mr. Ruby "messed with the wrong guy".
Fast forward to Saturday's C-J, and the attorney is singing a completely different tune. Laughably, he's claiming they "could care less" about the incident. What a dumbace attorney Simpson has. Saying he could care less means he cares. Dumbace attorney.
He then says that Ruby's the one keeping this public, when the whole time it's been Simpson's attorney with his threats of a lawsuit. However, Simpson now has no interest in pursuing legal action.

Smart move on his part. Let it die.
Thems the breaks for someone who either got away with murder or is a slimeball coward who knows the murderer and refuses to finger them.

Either way, he's a lowlife.

WELL SAID!

[boomdaddy]

You are exactly right. A server is generally less responsible than an owner so the blame goes straight to the owner. As a server, you simply dont care who comes and goes as long as you make your money, whether you like them or not. But as an owner, he should have known better than to refuse him service for no reason other than a feeling towards him. The owner should accept the fact that he was going to eat in his restaraunt and just let him stay unless he had reason to kick him out. A server can deny service to someone and have another server take over. An owner can deny service to someone and it goes to the papers. The owner should have been smarter than that.


The owner of a business has a legal right to refuse service if he or she so chooses, as long as it isn't proven to be because of reasons like handicaps or racism. Because OJ is such a nefarious character, Ruby couldn't have picked a better person to refuse service to. He not only got the admiration of many locals, he got free publicity for his business, world wide. I, personally don't think the move was calculated by the owner to get free press. But, sometimes life just works out that way.

[PitinoLooksBetterInRed]

The owner of a business has a legal right to refuse service if he or she so chooses, as long as it isn't proven to be because of reasons like handicaps or racism. Because OJ is such a nefarious character, Ruby couldn't have picked a better person to refuse service to.

It also worked out great that Michael Jordan came in 10 minutes later and he served him, throwing out the race card.

[teamchemistry09]

The owner of a business has a legal right to refuse service if he or she so chooses, as long as it isn't proven to be because of reasons like handicaps or racism. Because OJ is such a nefarious character, Ruby couldn't have picked a better person to refuse service to. He not only got the admiration of many locals, he got free publicity for his business, world wide. I, personally don't think the move was calculated by the owner to get free press. But, sometimes life just works out that way.

There also has to be proof or some reason why the service was refused. Whether it be because of a previous experience in the restaraunt or anything that shouldnt be done in a public place/restaraunt. Owners have the right to kick someone out for cursing at them and even making out with their wife, but no where in the book does it say you can kick someone out for not liking them.

[CATHEAD]

There also has to be proof or some reason why the service was refused. Whether it be because of a previous experience in the restaraunt or anything that shouldnt be done in a public place/restaraunt. Owners have the right to kick someone out for cursing at them and even making out with their wife, but no where in the book does it say you can kick someone out for not liking them.

There was a reason-he didn't want to serve a murderer. If I own a restaurant or any other type of establishment, and I don't want to serve someone, I won't. I don't care what the "book" says.

[teamchemistry09]

OJ is only a murderer in peoples opinions. He was proven innocent. He is a human being with rights like everyone else and Ruby kicking him out and showing he doesnt like OJ violated his rights. If you walked in a restaraunt and the owner said no get out wouldnt you be a little upset?

[Yuleofell]

OJ is only a murderer in peoples opinions. He was proven innocent. He is a human being with rights like everyone else and Ruby kicking him out and showing he doesnt like OJ violated his rights. If you walked in a restaraunt and the owner said no get out wouldnt you be a little upset?

Violated his rights? What a joke. O.J. does NOT have the right to eat at any restaurant he chooses. That one has never been added to the Bill of Rights.You don't think certain "Ladies of the Evening" are denied service at restaurants even though they haven't been convicted? What about Mel Ignatow? He wasn't convicted of murder either.

O.J. needs to just run along and contemplate what it will feel like to burn in Hades for eternity. The less I hear about the man, the happier I will be.

[rickdacatkilla]

OJ is only a murderer in peoples opinions. He was proven innocent. He is a human being with rights like everyone else and Ruby kicking him out and showing he doesnt like OJ violated his rights. If you walked in a restaraunt and the owner said no get out wouldnt you be a little upset?

You were the guy behind us yelling for OJ trying to get his autograph right?

[teamchemistry09]

Violated his rights? What a joke. O.J. does NOT have the right to eat at any restaurant he chooses. That one has never been added to the Bill of Rights.You don't think certain "Ladies of the Evening" are denied service at restaurants even though they haven't been convicted? What about Mel Ignatow? He wasn't convicted of murder either.

O.J. needs to just run along and contemplate what it will feel like to burn in Hades for eternity. The less I hear about the man, the happier I will be.

After Mel Ignato was proven innocent, proof came out that he did it with the pictures under his floor. There is no proof that OJ did it. And just because you dont like him doesnt mean he doesnt have the right to eat at a restaraunt.

[boomdaddy]

After Mel Ignato was proven innocent, proof came out that he did it with the pictures under his floor. There is no proof that OJ did it. And just because you dont like him doesnt mean he doesnt have the right to eat at a restaraunt.


OJ, is that you?

[CardinalNation]

After Mel Ignato was proven innocent, proof came out that he did it with the pictures under his floor. There is no proof that OJ did it. And just because you dont like him doesnt mean he doesnt have the right to eat at a restaraunt.
OJ at best was a wife beater. And anyone with a shread of common sense, knows he's a murderer.