Legion and Patterson

[CARDSRTOAST]

Let the Domination continue..Big Brother will rule ...and the beat goes on..

[TrueblueCATfan]

Let the Domination continue..Big Brother will rule ...and the beat goes on..

we have always ruled..................we own the BIRDS

[CARDSRTOAST]

we have always ruled..................we own the BIRDS25-12 and it ain't getting any closer..Billy Clyde has begun the return of the BBN to the rightful place in College Basketball..The Throne Room..

[CardinalNation]

25-12 and it ain't getting any closer..Billy Clyde has begun the return of the BBN to the rightful place in College Basketball..The Throne Room..
UK has always been in the Throne Room.http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g22/cardinal_photos/violent076.gif

[PitinoLooksBetterInRed]

Let the Domination continue..Big Brother will rule ...and the beat goes on..

You're jumping the gun. Take a look:

Starters:
Bradley < Sosa
Meeks > Smith
Crawford < T-Will
Patterson < Caracter
Carter < Padgett

[BigBlue75]

You're jumping the gun. Take a look:

Starters:
Bradley < Sosa
Meeks > Smith
Crawford < T-Will
Patterson < Caracter
Carter < Padgett

Uh, are we supposed to be intimidated or something? If you're waiting on that, you got a LONG wait, my man..;)

[chworld22]

You're jumping the gun. Take a look:

Starters:
Bradley < Sosa
Meeks > Smith
Crawford < T-Will
Patterson < Caracter
Carter < Padgett

You really think that you outright win all of those head to head match-up's? I think at best you would say that Bradley and Crawford would be equal to Sosa and T-Will. You would definatly have the edge in the Caracter and Carter match-ups but after this year I like the look of our line-up compared to UL.

[CardinalNation]

You really think that you outright win all of those head to head match-up's? I think at best you would say that Bradley and Crawford would be equal to Sosa and T-Will. You would definatly have the edge in the Caracter and Carter match-ups but after this year I like the look of our line-up compared to UL.
It used to be, "wait until Next year", now it's "wait until the year after next year". That's OK little kitties. Just keep telling yourselves that someday you'll be like UofL.http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g22/cardinal_photos/kitty27.gif

[chworld22]

It used to be, "wait until Next year", now it's "wait until the year after next year". That's OK little kitties. Just keep telling yourselves that someday you'll be like UofL.http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g22/cardinal_photos/kitty27.gif

I still think we win the game this year. I just like our line up more the following year.

[teamchemistry09]

It used to be, "wait until Next year", now it's "wait until the year after next year". That's OK little kitties. Just keep telling yourselves that someday you'll be like UofL.http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g22/cardinal_photos/kitty27.gif


When was the last time we said wait until next year in regards to basketball? How many years in a row have we beat you guys? And I hope we never are like uofl because Im much happier going to the NCAA and not the NIT.

[CATHEAD]

It used to be, "wait until Next year", now it's "wait until the year after next year". That's OK little kitties. Just keep telling yourselves that someday you'll be like UofL.http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g22/cardinal_photos/kitty27.gif

3-count 'em-3 in a row. That's 3 years in a row we've spanked you. Need more? 2 of those were at Cheatem Hall. Need more? This year will make 4, meaning your seniors will have never been part of a team that could beat UK. Facts are facts, Jack. Louisville will NEVER approach what UK is and has done. Get used to it.

[Will Lavender]

Bradley < Sosa

Nope.

Sosa had a fine last part of the season and he had a tremendous game against TAMU, but he's not in Ramel Bradley's league yet.

For evidence: go back to the Louisville/UK game. Watch closely late in the game. There's a play after a whistle blows where Sosa tries to take a shot and Ramel swats him.

Sosa is taken out of the game shortly thereafter, and as he's walking back to the bench...he's crying.

I'm dead serious. He sits down on the bench and cries. I've Tivo'd it a thousand times and it's there, clear as day.

Bradley destroyed Sosa that day. When Sosa could actually keep his compsure long enough to play extended minutes, Ramel was in his jock.

Bradley: 15 points, 2 assists, 0 turnovers
Sosa: 5 points, 0 assists, 1 turnover

Cats win big.

[TrueblueCATfan]

You're jumping the gun. Take a look:

Starters:
Bradley < Sosa
Meeks > Smith
Crawford < T-Will
Patterson < Caracter
Carter < Padgett

we shouldn't be be scared of NITino......our coach is already 1-0 agianst you

[PitinoLooksBetterInRed]

Nope.

Sosa had a fine last part of the season and he had a tremendous game against TAMU, but he's not in Ramel Bradley's league yet.

For evidence: go back to the Louisville/UK game. Watch closely late in the game. There's a play after a whistle blows where Sosa tries to take a shot and Ramel swats him.

Sosa is taken out of the game shortly thereafter, and as he's walking back to the bench...he's crying.

I'm dead serious. He sits down on the bench and cries. I've Tivo'd it a thousand times and it's there, clear as day.

Bradley destroyed Sosa that day. When Sosa could actually keep his compsure long enough to play extended minutes, Ramel was in his jock.

Bradley: 15 points, 2 assists, 0 turnovers
Sosa: 5 points, 0 assists, 1 turnover

Cats win big.

Edgar wasnt the same player in december that he was in March, you know that, i know that, why write all this?

[PitinoLooksBetterInRed]

we should be be scared of NITino......our coach is already 1-0 agianst you

Because Kentucky has nowhere near A&M's talent.

[catfan02]

How can you say it's always "wait until next year" when we've beat you 3 years in a row. And that during a supposed down period for UK basketball. That's what has to be really embarassing for you guys. You couldn't even beat us with Tubby as the coach. You need a reality check. Overdosed on the red koolaid. Get a grip, buddy, the series is 25-12!!!

[CardinalNation]

How can you say it's always "wait until next year" when we've beat you 3 years in a row. And that during a supposed down period for UK basketball. That's what has to be really embarassing for you guys. You couldn't even beat us with Tubby as the coach. You need a reality check. Overdosed on the red koolaid. Get a grip, buddy, the series is 25-12!!!
Is that how you spell success? How well you do against UofL? How about Florida? How about Vandy? How about Final Fours? I'm an old timer, and I remember a time when anything less than a Final Four was a disaster at UK. Now, as long as you beat UofL, I guess you're happy. How sad! Rupp would roll over in his grave, if he could see what you people have done to his program. Just keep on wishing for those Final Fours. Or to beat UofL.
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[chworld22]

Is that how you spell success? How well you do against UofL? How about Florida? How about Vandy? How about Final Fours? I'm an old timer, and I remember a time when anything less than a Final Four was a disaster at UK. Now, as long as you beat UofL, I guess you're happy. How sad! Rupp would roll over in his grave, if he could see what you people have done to his program. Just keep on wishing for those Final Fours. Or to beat UofL.
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Keep using that as your fall back comment CN. The fact is that UK fans look at five games a year that they want to win more than the rest (except for the tournament). Those games are IU, UL, UNC, Duke, or UF. When UK wins those games then it is a good year. When they win the Championship then it is a great year. UK has had some good years recently but it has been awhile since UK has had a great year.

[chworld22]

Edgar wasnt the same player in december that he was in March, you know that, i know that, why write all this?

Sosa was better in March than he was in Dec. but he is still not up to Bradley's league yet.

He will probably make it there this year or next but I personally don't see it yet.

[CATHEAD]

Is that how you spell success? How well you do against UofL? How about Florida? How about Vandy? How about Final Fours? I'm an old timer, and I remember a time when anything less than a Final Four was a disaster at UK. Now, as long as you beat UofL, I guess you're happy. How sad! Rupp would roll over in his grave, if he could see what you people have done to his program. Just keep on wishing for those Final Fours. Or to beat UofL.
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You're a joke. But yes, a large part of a successful season is spanking you tweety birds just the way you like it. Yeah, Florida's had our number the last two years. In case you hadn't noticed, they've had a pretty decent team. Check the first dozen or so picks in this year's NBA Draft, you'll see the bulk of their starting lineup. Vandy? A blind sow finds an acorn every now and then. But then again, you're making my point for me: Vandy beat us twice last year, Uavel hasn' done it in THREE years, supposedly when we were our weakest. Should have capitalized while you had the chance. WE OWN YOU.

[TrueblueCATfan]

Because Kentucky has nowhere near A&M's talent.

wow..even our former coach was 3-0 agianst you...sorry bird breath you lose

[TrueblueCATfan]

It used to be, "wait until Next year", now it's "wait until the year after next year". That's OK little kitties. Just keep telling yourselves that someday you'll be like UofL.http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g22/cardinal_photos/kitty27.gif

huh..we are 3-0 against you..seems you are the ones saying wait till next year.............we have waited and you still can't beat us........

[TrueblueCATfan]

Is that how you spell success? How well you do against UofL? How about Florida? How about Vandy? How about Final Fours? I'm an old timer, and I remember a time when anything less than a Final Four was a disaster at UK. Now, as long as you beat UofL, I guess you're happy. How sad! Rupp would roll over in his grave, if he could see what you people have done to his program. Just keep on wishing for those Final Fours. Or to beat UofL.
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keep on wishing for those NCAA titles...........hey next time you go to a final four try winning it

[CardinalNation]

wow..even our former coach was 3-0 agianst you...sorry bird breath you lose
Who was Kentucky's coach in 2002 & 2003?http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g22/cardinal_photos/12010545.gif

[CARDSRTOAST]

Lil Brudder ...Priceless...and it will only get better with the new Big Blue Arena in Louisville..Where we can play NCAA games and LB cannot.The SEC in Loserville..cover up the Red Pigeon logo..The Big Boys are here...and the beat goes on...

[CARDSRTOAST]

Who was Kentucky's coach in 2002 & 2003?http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g22/cardinal_photos/12010545.gifThe question Bird Lips is who beat you last in Rupp ,,,Billy Clyde and now with a Top 10 Recruiting Class..Better tighten up your knickers Junior,,the ride can be rough on the way down..

[teamchemistry09]

Is that how you spell success? How well you do against UofL? How about Florida? How about Vandy? How about Final Fours? I'm an old timer, and I remember a time when anything less than a Final Four was a disaster at UK. Now, as long as you beat UofL, I guess you're happy. How sad! Rupp would roll over in his grave, if he could see what you people have done to his program. Just keep on wishing for those Final Fours. Or to beat UofL.
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We obviously dont have to worry about beating uofl anymore because it comes with such ease. This is a smack forum between UK and uofl fans. Why bring up Florida and Vandy? Lets bring up Villanova and UCONN or Syracuse. What about uofls Final Fours? You just think its our championship because you havent done it in so long. And things are back to the old days now with Billy G running things and a top 10 class his FIRST year. This is just a sample of things to come. Get used to losing

[PitinoLooksBetterInRed]

We obviously dont have to worry about beating uofl anymore because it comes with such ease. This is a smack forum between UK and uofl fans. Why bring up Florida and Vandy? Lets bring up Villanova and UCONN or Syracuse. What about uofls Final Fours? You just think its our championship because you havent done it in so long. And things are back to the old days now with Billy G running things and a top 10 class his FIRST year. This is just a sample of things to come. Get used to losing

You guys are crazy. Just because UK will be better in 2-3 years, you really think UofL is going to fade away and UK will dominate? FYI, Pitino is still bringing in recruits. Last year we had 2 5-star (Caracter/Clark) and 2 4-star (Sosa/Smith) recruits. FYI we will be preseason top 10, maybe top 5 next year. The next two years we already have committments from 4 star recruits, and who knows who else will come in. So guess what, get used to losing.

[teamchemistry09]

Yea hes still bringing in recruits but the fact of the matter is ours are in a different league. You can take Goode and Knowles and well take PP and Legion. Thats fine

[Yuleofell]

The question Bird Lips is who beat you last in Rupp ,,,Billy Clyde and now with a Top 10 Recruiting Class..Better tighten up your knickers Junior,,the ride can be rough on the way down..

Oh boy! A top ten recruiting class! Its been a long time since you were able to celebrate that ,huh?

Let's look at your team.

center- lose burger boy Morris and back-up Orbzut. replaced with Carter. -5
PF- Lose Perry and Thomas. replace with an almost burger boy Patterson. +3
SF/SG -Mr. I won't pass Crawford is back. You added Legion as a backup. +1
Sg -Meeks is back and a year more experienced +2
Pg - Bradley is still your floor leader with Jasper his backup. +0
Coaching- Tubby is gone replaced with Gillespie, a novice at the big time level
His main strength will be recruiting, not game day decisions. -2

I see it as Uk being about the same to slipping a notch further. You should be happy to earn a NCAA berth. Not exactly enough to make me quiver in my boots.

[teamchemistry09]

Oh boy! A top ten recruiting class! Its been a long time since you were able to celebrate that ,huh?

Let's look at your team.

center- lose burger boy Morris and back-up Orbzut. replaced with Carter. -5
PF- Lose Perry and Thomas. replace with an almost burger boy Patterson. +3
SF/SG -Mr. I won't pass Crawford is back. You added Legion as a backup. +1
Sg -Meeks is back and a year more experienced +2
Pg - Bradley is still your floor leader with Jasper his backup. +0
Coaching- Tubby is gone replaced with Gillespie, a novice at the big time level
His main strength will be recruiting, not game day decisions. -2

I see it as Uk being about the same to slipping a notch further. You should be happy to earn a NCAA berth. Not exactly enough to make me quiver in my boots.


Happy to make an NCAA berth? You must be crazy. This recruiting class will put us in a preseason top 20 most likely. No way we are anything less than a 6 this year. The last time we celebrated a top 10 class was 3 years ago. When was the last time uofl could say that? Did you guys even get a top 10 class in the big easy this year?

[TrueblueCATfan]

Oh boy! A top ten recruiting class! Its been a long time since you were able to celebrate that ,huh?

Let's look at your team.

center- lose burger boy Morris and back-up Orbzut. replaced with Carter. -5
PF- Lose Perry and Thomas. replace with an almost burger boy Patterson. +3
SF/SG -Mr. I won't pass Crawford is back. You added Legion as a backup. +1
Sg -Meeks is back and a year more experienced +2
Pg - Bradley is still your floor leader with Jasper his backup. +0
Coaching- Tubby is gone replaced with Gillespie, a novice at the big time level
His main strength will be recruiting, not game day decisions. -2

I see it as Uk being about the same to slipping a notch further. You should be happy to earn a NCAA berth. Not exactly enough to make me quiver in my boots.
2004 was not that long ago...................number 1 class

[CardinalNation]

The last time we celebrated a top 10 class was 3 years ago. When was the last time uofl could say that?
How did that work out? Wasn't that the same year UofL went to the Final Four? When was the last time uk Could say that?
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[MercerTitans]

How did that work out? Wasn't that the same year UofL went to the Final Four? When was the last time uk Could say that?
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Asinine post considering that UL went almost TWENTY years between Final Fours.

[PitinoLooksBetterInRed]

Happy to make an NCAA berth? You must be crazy. This recruiting class will put us in a preseason top 20 most likely. No way we are anything less than a 6 this year. The last time we celebrated a top 10 class was 3 years ago. When was the last time uofl could say that? Did you guys even get a top 10 class in the big easy this year?

You will not be in the preseason top 25, and you wont get a 6 seed.

[TrueblueCATfan]

Asinine post considering that UL went almost TWENTY years between Final Fours.

and don't forget 21 years since a NCAA championship...........at least when we go to the FF we win

[teamchemistry09]

You will not be in the preseason top 25, and you wont get a 6 seed.

Why wont we be? We have athletic bigs who are ALL a presence on defense and the boards and we have tons of guards who could be starting at 2 and 3 different positions. We are going to run all up and down over and around every team we come across including lil brudder. We have Senior leadership AND young talent who can shoot the lights out and jump out of the gym. What more can you ask for? Fat guys and people with 2 bad knees? no thanks. Face it, we are back and here to stay. Starting with our top 10 class.

[PitinoLooksBetterInRed]

Why wont we be? We have athletic bigs who are ALL a presence on defense and the boards and we have tons of guards who could be starting at 2 and 3 different positions. We are going to run all up and down over and around every team we come across including lil brudder. We have Senior leadership AND young talent who can shoot the lights out and jump out of the gym. What more can you ask for? Fat guys and people with 2 bad knees? no thanks. Face it, we are back and here to stay. Starting with our top 10 class.

LOL. This is crazy. Completely unrealistic. You will run up and down over and around everyone? Where is all this yound talent that can shoot the lights out: Meeks and who else, Jasper? Are you seriously dissing our frontcourt: Palacios, Clark, Caracter, Padgett, T-Will? I liked posting here because most UK fans were realistic on here but dang, you sound like UK will win a national championship next year. Enjoy being unranked at the end of the year for the third year in a row.

[chworld22]

LOL. This is crazy. Completely unrealistic. You will run up and down over and around everyone? Where is all this yound talent that can shoot the lights out: Meeks and who else, Jasper? Are you seriously dissing our frontcourt: Palacios, Clark, Caracter, Padgett, T-Will? I liked posting here because most UK fans were realistic on here but dang, you sound like UK will win a national championship next year. Enjoy being unranked at the end of the year for the third year in a row.

I don't think that we will be a 6 seed but I think that we have a chance to be really good if everything pans out. Really we have really good guards (Bradley and Crawford both can shot to go along with Meeks). Who knows what Carter will do after a whole year of development (both physical and learnign to play agianst college level talent). You add in Stevenson and Ramon Harris both played very well last year with limited time on court at times and a good recruitng class and you have a recipe for something that could be special.

[teamchemistry09]

Bradley probably has the best range in the SEC next to Lofton. Crawford and Meeks are also shooters and we all know what Legion did in HS. Didnt miss a free throw after the first week of January. Theres our shooters right there. And yes I am dissing Palacios, Caracter and Padgett. Palacios is too worried about shooting the outside jumper to be considered a big man, we all know the problems Caracter has and Padgett cant jump over the newspaper and has very limited mobility. If you look at Clark he is the same as Palacios. Even if he went down low hed get pushed around by any PF or C with size. And T-Will is NOTHING but an extreme athlete. He has NO outside shot at all. I am being realistic in saying we will have a run n gun team next year. Look at all the guards we have. Show me how it is unrealistic to think that we will have a deep enough and fast enough team to wear out any team we play next year.

[CardinalNation]

And things are back to the old days now with Billy G running things and a top 10 class his FIRST year. This is just a sample of things to come. Get used to losing
Same crap I heard when Sutton came to UK. Is that what you mean by things are back to the old days? I don't doubt it! Might want to switch to UPS.http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g22/cardinal_photos/thbwahaharoll.gif

[teamchemistry09]

Same crap I heard when Sutton came to UK. Is that what you mean by things are back to the old days? I don't doubt it! Might want to switch to UPS.http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g22/cardinal_photos/thbwahaharoll.gif


Things are back to the old days because UKs domination of college basketball will have a new beginning. Seems like uofl will have a hard time keeping up

[CardinalNation]

Things are back to the old days because UKs domination of college basketball will have a new beginning. Seems like uofl will have a hard time keeping up
Domination of college basketball? Baby Steps, son. Baby Steps. First, you might want to think about winning your conference. Then maybe your coach can get past the Sweet 16 for the first time in his life. You had 3 McDonald AA's three years ago, and a coach who coached a National Championship, and won nothing. Now, you're going to dominate college basketball? Are you sure you don't believe PP is a savior? I want some of what you're smoking.
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[teamchemistry09]

Kind of brings up the point why I said it WILL have a new beginning. When did I say it is now? Can you show me where I did please?

[CardinalNation]

Kind of brings up the point why I said it WILL have a new beginning. When did I say it is now? Can you show me where I did please?
You said:"Things are back to the old days because UKs domination of college basketball will have a new beginning."
You didn't say things will be back, you said things ARE back to the old days. I have to admit that I'm not an English major, but I do understand the English language. You're not saying that NOW is the beginning of UK's domination of college basketball? If not, you've lost me.:shrug1:

[teamchemistry09]

Im guessing you give up and have realized that UK will always be better than you. That or you are looking for a new smiley face that is wearing a UK jersey and has a uofl fan kissing his butt

[teamchemistry09]

You said:"Things are back to the old days because UKs domination of college basketball will have a new beginning."
You didn't say things will be back, you said things ARE back to the old days. I have to admit that I'm not an English major, but I do understand the English language. You're not saying that NOW is the beginning of UK's domination of college basketball? If not, you've lost me.:shrug1:

If you look at the second part of that sentence, you see "will have a new beginning" Things ARE back to the old days. We have a great coach, a top 10 class, and the fan base is bigger than ever. Things are like they used to be and our domination of college basketball WILL have a new beginning. Right there in my original post for ya

[TrueblueCATfan]

WOW..CN for someone who was gone along time you have reloaded and come back with a vengence..........

[teamchemistry09]

WOW..CN for someone who was gone along time you have reloaded and come back with a vengence..........

He just cant understand that UK is back on the right track to being dominant again

[CardinalNation]

Im guessing you give up and have realized that UK will always be better than you. That or you are looking for a new smiley face that is wearing a UK jersey and has a uofl fan kissing his butt
This is the best that I could find.

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[TrueblueCATfan]

He just cant understand that UK is back on the right track to being dominant again

I never thought we were off track.......we own those dirty little red birds and we always will.........................BAW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[teamchemistry09]

You really need a life. But showing Bart poop on a Wildcat doesnt change the fact that UK is better than uofl and always will be. You are just realizing you are wrong in this argument and trying to avoid the subject. You made a nice run at it though

[teamchemistry09]

I never thought we were off track.......we own those dirty little red birds and we always will.........................BAW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes we owned the little birdies but we will be back to owning all of college basketball in a few years

[CardinalNation]

Yes we owned the little birdies but we will be back to owning all of college basketball in a few years

And this is the man who will lead you?
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[teamchemistry09]

You should put Willards picture up there to. What about uofls student athletes? Pot heads right? And basketball players, personal issues who have to be sent home? At least our coach hasnt kicked anyone off the team. Tell Huffman Im sorry

[CardinalNation]

You should put Willards picture up there to. What about uofls student athletes? Pot heads right? And basketball players, personal issues who have to be sent home? At least our coach hasnt kicked anyone off the team. Tell Huffman Im sorry
Wow, I struck a nerve, didn't I?
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[teamchemistry09]

No I dont let old guys who have nothing better to do than sit on their computer strike a nerve. Im more mature than that and have bigger problems than trying to convince people that UK is better than uofl. Theres all the facts in the world about it.

[CardinalNation]

No I dont let old guys who have nothing better to do than sit on their computer strike a nerve. Im more mature than that and have bigger problems than trying to convince people that UK is better than uofl. Theres all the facts in the world about it.
"Theres all the facts in the world about it." Let me guess, you're an English major, right? http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g22/cardinal_photos/12F616154.gif

[TrueblueCATfan]

HEY CN....................POT MEET KETTLE..........Willard was actually convicted..I do not think Billy G was..they were thrown out or that is what I read somewhere

[CardinalNation]

HEY CN....................POT MEET KETTLE..........Willard was actually convicted..I do not think Billy G was..they were thrown out or that is what I read somewhere
We got rid of him. You just hired this guy. I guess you didn't learn anything from Eddie Sutton. http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g22/cardinal_photos/drinking2.gif

[chworld22]

We got rid of him. You just hired this guy. I guess you didn't learn anything from Eddie Sutton. http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g22/cardinal_photos/drinking2.gif

You didn't get rid of anyone he moved on.

Besides that fact that it doesn't change the fact that you are calling out a coach for having a DWI when you had a coach with the same problem.

[CardinalNation]

You didn't get rid of anyone he moved on.

Besides that fact that it doesn't change the fact that you are calling out a coach for having a DWI when you had a coach with the same problem.
HAD, not HAVE. And he wasn't the Head Coach.

[TrueblueCATfan]

We got rid of him. You just hired this guy. I guess you didn't learn anything from Eddie Sutton. http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g22/cardinal_photos/drinking2.gif

YOU DID NOT get rid of him..he left on his own for another job ..that is after he treid to get another job and was turned down................there is NO comparsion to Billy G and Eddie Sutton

[CardinalNation]

there is NO comparsion to Billy G and Eddie Sutton
I can think of at least one!:beer:

[chworld22]

HAD, not HAVE. And he wasn't the Head Coach.

Makes no difference! He was a coach on your staff regardless of his postion on that team he was still on the staff and had a DWI. So people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones my friend.

[CardinalNation]

Makes no difference! He was a coach on your staff regardless of his postion on that team he was still on the staff and had a DWI. So people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones my friend.
I was on record that he should have been fired on the spot. Drunk driving shouldn't be tolerated, no matter who you are. With UK's zero tolerance (Do they still have that?) I'm surprised they hired Billy Clyde.

[chworld22]

I was on record that he should have been fired on the spot. Drunk driving shouldn't be tolerated, no matter who you are. With UK's zero tolerance (Do they still have that?) I'm surprised they hired Billy Clyde.

It was something that happened in the past not in the present. Do you punish someone for the rest of their life for a mistake they made? If that is really how the world worked then it would a miserable world since everyone of us makes mistakes even you CN.

[CardinalNation]

It was something that happened in the past not in the present. Do you punish someone for the rest of their life for a mistake they made? If that is really how the world worked then it would a miserable world since everyone of us makes mistakes even you CN.
Yes, we all make mistakes, but we must pay for them. Where I work at, if you fail a drug test, you're out for life. No second chance. Ask anyone who has lost a loved one to a drunk driver what they think the punishment should be. When you're a public figure, and work with college age kids, your standard should even be higher. Especially at a place that has a "zero" tolerance policy.

[Radiated]

This is the best that I could find.

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This is a non-nudity board. And child porn at that. :icon_mrgreen: :shock: ;) :p

[teamchemistry09]

Yes, we all make mistakes, but we must pay for them. Where I work at, if you fail a drug test, you're out for life. No second chance. Ask anyone who has lost a loved one to a drunk driver what they think the punishment should be. When you're a public figure, and work with college age kids, your standard should even be higher. Especially at a place that has a "zero" tolerance policy.

Well theres a difference in drugs and alcohol. Billy G wasnt on drugs. Would you get fired for drinking and driving? Doubtful. And you are also telling me that where you work there are NO kids at all? Or do you live in a nursing home? I know people who have been injured and killed by a drunk driver and my opinion will always stay the same. Everyone deserves a second chance because we all make mistakes. So you think because hes a public figure he should be held to a higher standard. You think Clinton should have been kicked out of office or was he ok because he "didnt inhale" And look at yourself, Im sure you have kids and maybe even grandkids, nieces, nephews, little cousins or whatever. Does that stop you from kicking back and having a cold one every once in a while. You are with kids, certainly some sort of a figure to them in their lives, why should you have the right to drink?

[CardinalNation]

Well theres a difference in drugs and alcohol. Billy G wasnt on drugs. Would you get fired for drinking and driving? Doubtful. And you are also telling me that where you work there are NO kids at all? Or do you live in a nursing home? I know people who have been injured and killed by a drunk driver and my opinion will always stay the same. Everyone deserves a second chance because we all make mistakes. So you think because hes a public figure he should be held to a higher standard. You think Clinton should have been kicked out of office or was he ok because he "didnt inhale" And look at yourself, Im sure you have kids and maybe even grandkids, nieces, nephews, little cousins or whatever. Does that stop you from kicking back and having a cold one every once in a while. You are with kids, certainly some sort of a figure to them in their lives, why should you have the right to drink?
Drugs and drunk driving are both illegal. No kids where I work at. Clinton was never arrested. Yes, I have kids (grown), but I have never had a cold one and got behind the wheel of a car. Sorry son, but drunk drivers will get no sympathy from me.

[teamchemistry09]

Drugs and drunk driving are both illegal. No kids where I work at. Clinton was never arrested. Yes, I have kids (grown), but I have never had a cold one and got behind the wheel of a car. Sorry son, but drunk drivers will get no sympathy from me.

He never got convicted. Thats the point you are missing. Drunk drivers get no sympathy from you but kids who smoke marijuana do? All you guys said when Okoye admitted it was it shows honesty and maturity. But when a grown man drives home drunk and admits to it and says it was a mistake and mans up by saying that it is in his past and he changed it thats wrong? Sounds a little biased to me

[CardinalNation]

He never got convicted. Thats the point you are missing. Drunk drivers get no sympathy from you but kids who smoke marijuana do?
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Please show me where I said anything of the kind. My goodness, you're making up stuff now!

[crazzedcats22]

He never got convicted. Thats the point you are missing. Drunk drivers get no sympathy from you but kids who smoke marijuana do? All you guys said when Okoye admitted it was it shows honesty and maturity. But when a grown man drives home drunk and admits to it and says it was a mistake and mans up by saying that it is in his past and he changed it thats wrong? Sounds a little biased to me

exactly!!

[CardinalNation]

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Originally Posted by teamchemistry07 http://www.wildcatnation.net/forum/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.wildcatnation.net/forum/showthread.php?p=281743#post281743)
He never got convicted. Thats the point you are missing. Drunk drivers get no sympathy from you but kids who smoke marijuana do? All you guys said when Okoye admitted it was it shows honesty and maturity. But when a grown man drives home drunk and admits to it and says it was a mistake and mans up by saying that it is in his past and he changed it thats wrong? Sounds a little biased to me

exactly!!
exactly!!
Oh brother, give me a break! First of all, there is a difference in what kids and grown men do. And do you think your coach was innocent? He was driving down a one way street the wrong way, failed several field sobriety tests, and refused to take a Breathalyzer test. That's why he sent more than 1,000 handwritten notes to UTEP season ticketholders, apologizing for embarrassing the basketball program and the university. Coach and OJ must have the same lawyers.http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g22/cardinal_photos/thlmao.gif

[chworld22]

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He never got convicted. Thats the point you are missing. Drunk drivers get no sympathy from you but kids who smoke marijuana do? All you guys said when Okoye admitted it was it shows honesty and maturity. But when a grown man drives home drunk and admits to it and says it was a mistake and mans up by saying that it is in his past and he changed it thats wrong? Sounds a little biased to me

exactly!!

Oh brother, give me a break! First of all, there is a difference in what kids and grown men do. And do you think your coach was innocent? He was driving down a one way street the wrong way, failed several field sobriety tests, and refused to take a Breathalyzer test. That's why he sent more than 1,000 handwritten notes to UTEP season ticketholders, apologizing for embarrassing the basketball program and the university. Coach and OJ must have the same lawyers.http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g22/cardinal_photos/thlmao.gif

If he failed several field test why did they send him home without arresting him? It all makes no sense to me and I think it has all been blown up since he is a guy in the public eye.

[teamchemistry09]

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Please show me where I said anything of the kind. My goodness, you're making up stuff now!

So you are telling me that you think Okoye should be punished? I gurantee you that once you said something to the extent of it shows his good character. And theres a difference in what kids and grown men do your right. Grown men admit to stuff they did YEARS ago and can face the heat and have moved on. Okoye could have been getting high up until 2 or 3 months ago. Why would he stop? Billy G admitted to moving on from his past and said it was a mistake, all Okoye did was say he smoked marijuana. Not once did he say he had moved on

[PitinoLooksBetterInRed]

This is stupid to argue. Everyone, except for some Cat Fans, thinks Okoye showed his maturity by admitting to smoking Marijuana. Who cares if Billy G got a DUI, it doesnt affect his coaching and I'm pretty darn sure he wont ever do it again being at UK now, not to mention he wasnt found guilty. Willard admitted to his mistake and we shouldnt be arguing about an assistant coach anyway. I just bring up about Billy G when someone bashes Okoye, even though i dont care about his dui. Both these subjects are obviously pretty touchy, so lets just not talk about it. Everything has been said already anyway.

These subjects should be in the "no fly zone" as someone said a month or two ago.

[PitinoLooksBetterInRed]

So you are telling me that you think Okoye should be punished? I gurantee you that once you said something to the extent of it shows his good character. And theres a difference in what kids and grown men do your right. Grown men admit to stuff they did YEARS ago and can face the heat and have moved on. Okoye could have been getting high up until 2 or 3 months ago. Why would he stop? Billy G admitted to moving on from his past and said it was a mistake, all Okoye did was say he smoked marijuana. Not once did he say he had moved on

BTW, Okoye said he experimented with it once as a freshman (i think?) because he was curious and doesnt anymore. So he has moved on if i remember it correctly from espn.

[teamchemistry09]

This is stupid to argue. Everyone, except for some Cat Fans, thinks Okoye showed his maturity by admitting to smoking Marijuana. Who cares if Billy G got a DUI, it doesnt affect his coaching and I'm pretty darn sure he wont ever do it again being at UK now, not to mention he wasnt found guilty. Willard admitted to his mistake and we shouldnt be arguing about an assistant coach anyway. I just bring up about Billy G when someone bashes Okoye, even though i dont care about his dui. Both these subjects are obviously pretty touchy, so lets just not talk about it. Everything has been said already anyway.

These subjects should be in the "no fly zone" as someone said a month or two ago.

I just dont get how everyone thinks Okoye showed maturity by admitting it but when Billy G talks about it it means nothing. He admitted he made a mistake, just like Okoye.

[CardinalNation]

I just dont get how everyone thinks Okoye showed maturity by admitting it but when Billy G talks about it it means nothing. He admitted he made a mistake, just like Okoye.
He didn't get caught. Billy got caught, and still tried to talk his way out of it. One was 16, (and didn't drive) and the other was a grown man. Are you too blind to see the difference??
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[chworld22]

He didn't get caught. Billy got caught, and still tried to talk his way out of it. One was 16, (and didn't drive) and the other was a grown man. Are you too blind to see the difference??
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Drinking and driving is against the law as much as using drugs are.

Also, to something you mentioned earlier about him saying he had only tried it once. Come on are you so naive to believe that just because he said that was his only time that it is true? What would you think he would say I smoked every weekend until last year.

[CardinalNation]

Drinking and driving is against the law as much as using drugs are.

Also, to something you mentioned earlier about him saying he had only tried it once. Come on are you so naive to believe that just because he said that was his only time that it is true? What would you think he would say I smoked every weekend until last year.
No ch, I'm not naive. I'd be willing to bet that the majority of the football team, basketball team, baseball team, and chess club from both schools have smoked pot before. But you don't see any difference in a kid smoking pot, and a grown man driving down the wrong side of the road after drinking?? And people keep bringing up Williard. I'm on record as saying he should have been fired. But at least he admitted what he did, and pleaded guilty. Coach Billy Clyde claimed he was "Lost" in a new town. I guess he was out recruiting at 2:30 AM.http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g22/cardinal_photos/bonk.gifGood lawyers got Billy Clyde off easy. Yes, I believe in second chances (Or in Billy Clyde's case, 3rd chances), but I believe you must prove yourself, and when you're in the Public eye, be ready to take the heat.

[chworld22]

No ch, I'm not naive. I'd be willing to bet that the majority of the football team, basketball team, baseball team, and chess club from both schools have smoked pot before. But you don't see any difference in a kid smoking pot, and a grown man driving down the wrong side of the road after drinking?? And people keep bringing up Williard. I'm on record as saying he should have been fired. But at least he admitted what he did, and pleaded guilty. Coach Billy Clyde claimed he was "Lost" in a new town. I guess he was out recruiting at 2:30 AM.http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g22/cardinal_photos/bonk.gifGood lawyers got Billy Clyde off easy. Yes, I believe in second chances (Or in Billy Clyde's case, 3rd chances), but I believe you must prove yourself, and when you're in the Public eye, be ready to take the heat.

I never said that I didn't think that members of both teams hadn't smoked I am sure that the majority of them have or atleast been around it. But I also think that it is possible that he wasn't drinking and driving and was lost. I know that I have pulled the wrong way down a one way road many times in my day in a city that I was new too. If he was out at 2:30 I am also sure that he had been drinking but was he drunk? That was never proven because he was allowed to go home and then later arrested. If the cop thought he was really a threat to the roads why didn't he get taken in right then?

Basically I don't think you should be talking about it since one of your ex coaches did the exact same thing and was actually convicted of it. Regardless of your personal stance on the situation. The guy was still a member of the staff that was coach your team and you didn't stop liking the team because of it. Also, I would like to point out that the subject of Willard haiving done that was never even really discussed in this forum because the majority of the people on her believe that is something that should be off limits. But I guess you are not part of that majority!

[CardinalNation]

I never said that I didn't think that members of both teams hadn't smoked I am sure that the majority of them have or atleast been around it. But I also think that it is possible that he wasn't drinking and driving and was lost. I know that I have pulled the wrong way down a one way road many times in my day in a city that I was new too. If he was out at 2:30 I am also sure that he had been drinking but was he drunk? That was never proven because he was allowed to go home and then later arrested. If the cop thought he was really a threat to the roads why didn't he get taken in right then?

Basically I don't think you should be talking about it since one of your ex coaches did the exact same thing and was actually convicted of it. Regardless of your personal stance on the situation. The guy was still a member of the staff that was coach your team and you didn't stop liking the team because of it. Also, I would like to point out that the subject of Willard haiving done that was never even really discussed in this forum because the majority of the people on her believe that is something that should be off limits. But I guess you are not part of that majority!
Does Any of this make sense??
Gillispie was given several field sobriety tests and failed some of them, but refused to take a Breathalyzer test, according to the El Paso Times. Gillispie was taken to a police station and later offered to give the officers a blood test, which is more accurate than a breath test. But the officers did not take the test, his lawyers said. He was released and not charged.
Willard took responsiblity and plead guilty. Billy Clyde refused a breathalyzer but "later" offered a blood test??? I was born at night, but not last night. I'm willing to let this thread die out, but please don't insult anyone's intelligence by saying Billy Clyde was "lost". Give me one reasonable explanation why the police would take Billy Clyde to the police station, after he refused a breathalyzer test and failed sobriety tests, and just let him go. I'm not that stupid, and I hope that you're not. And Willard wasn't discussed here? I wish the pages went back that far. Do you really think Grover didn't bring it up? You must have been in a coma that week. You don't have to be a Sherlock Holmes to know that.............
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[PitinoLooksBetterInRed]

Does Any of this make sense??
Gillispie was given several field sobriety tests and failed some of them, but refused to take a Breathalyzer test, according to the El Paso Times. Gillispie was taken to a police station and later offered to give the officers a blood test, which is more accurate than a breath test. But the officers did not take the test, his lawyers said. He was released and not charged.
Willard took responsiblity and plead guilty. Billy Clyde refused a breathalyzer but "later" offered a blood test??? I was born at night, but not last night. I'm willing to let this thread die out, but please don't insult anyone's intelligence by saying Billy Clyde was "lost". Give me one reasonable explanation why the police would take Billy Clyde to the police station, after he refused a breathalyzer test and failed sobriety tests, and just let him go. I'm not that stupid, and I hope that you're not. And Willard wasn't discussed here? I wish the pages went back that far. Do you really think Grover didn't bring it up? You must have been in a coma that week. You don't have to be a Sherlock Holmes to know that.............
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No charges were made b/c they found out he had 4-5 beers over a 3 hour period, which doesnt put him over the blood-alcohol limit in Texas.

[chworld22]

Does Any of this make sense??
And Willard wasn't discussed here? I wish the pages went back that far. Do you really think Grover didn't bring it up? You must have been in a coma that week. You don't have to be a Sherlock Holmes to know that.............
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Did you not catch the part of my reply that said MOST of us didn't discuss it. Did I say none of us? NO because I know that would not be the case. So I guess we can throw you in the same catergory with him now?

[chworld22]

No charges were made b/c they found out he had 4-5 beers over a 3 hour period, which doesnt put him over the blood-alcohol limit in Texas.

Does Any of this make sense??
Gillispie was given several field sobriety tests and failed some of them, but refused to take a Breathalyzer test, according to the El Paso Times. Gillispie was taken to a police station and later offered to give the officers a blood test, which is more accurate than a breath test. But the officers did not take the test, his lawyers said. He was released and not charged.
Willard took responsiblity and plead guilty. Billy Clyde refused a breathalyzer but "later" offered a blood test??? I was born at night, but not last night. I'm willing to let this thread die out, but please don't insult anyone's intelligence by saying Billy Clyde was "lost". Give me one reasonable explanation why the police would take Billy Clyde to the police station, after he refused a breathalyzer test and failed sobriety tests, and just let him go. I'm not that stupid, and I hope that you're not. And Willard wasn't discussed here? I wish the pages went back that far. Do you really think Grover didn't bring it up? You must have been in a coma that week. You don't have to be a Sherlock Holmes to know that.............
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Even your own fan base thinks it should be a none subject!

[CardinalNation]

Did you not catch the part of my reply that said MOST of us didn't discuss it. Did I say none of us? NO because I know that would not be the case. So I guess we can throw you in the same catergory with him now?
Well, you should put yourself in that category, because you've brought up Willard (and several other UK fans have too) in this very thread. If I really wanted to play hardball, I could bring up Jason Watts. As far as I'm concerned, I've said all that I'm going to on this subject. (for now anyway) I've made my point.
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[chworld22]

Well, you should put yourself in that category, because you've brought up Willard (and several other UK fans have too) in this very thread. If I really wanted to play hardball, I could bring up Jason Watts. As far as I'm concerned, I've said all that I'm going to on this subject. (for now anyway) I've made my point.
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I brought up only to point out that you had a coach in the same situation. If you hadn't started in on our coach then it would never have been brought up.

The only pint you have made is that peoples personally lives are really fair game here and that is a point that is well taken and will be put to good use later on down the road so thanks.

[lighthouse]

This discussion has been going on for several days, and what has it accomplished? People make mistakes, just like those involved in the discussion have. Whether you're a Cat or cardinal fan, doesn't make the other side's mistake worse. What's the Good Book say about throwing the first stone? :shrug1:

[chworld22]

This discussion has been going on for several days, and what has it accomplished? People make mistakes, just like those involved in the discussion have. Whether you're a Cat or cardinal fan, doesn't make the other side's mistake worse. What's the Good Book say about throwing the first stone? :shrug1:

That was the one and only thing I was trying to point out to begin all of this!