Who's The Best QB In The Country?

[CardinalNation]

Let's see what ESPN thinks. Click Here (http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/ivp/index?id=2867738)

Bow to the mighty Brian Brohm, Bluebellies!
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[4thecards]

What???? No Andre' Woodson???? But...he's in the SEC!!!! He played against Florida and Auburn and LSU!!! He won the first bowl game at UK since Milli Vanilli were topping the charts!!!


I knew the folk at ESPN were anti-Wildcat!

That's it, I'm never watching ESPN again!!!

BOYCOTT ESPN!!!!!!!!!!!

[matt57]

ya know, i have no complaints at all about brohm topping that list. but, imo woodson should be on there before john parker wilson of alabama and matt stafford of UGA. the kid had a great year last year and will likely have as good or better of a year this year. but, i agree brohm is easily the # 1 guy in the country. i just hope he stays healthy this year.

[teamchemistry09]

Once again, like Cardinalnation said in another post, thats one mans opinion. Everyone has different opinions on who is the best. But the numbers I posted on another thread show it. Woodson and Brohm are neck and neck but Woodson still has more potential. Brohm has already peaked. And he has a bigger chance of injury. Hit him a few times and he gets all nervous back in the pocket. Hell be a bust in the pros just like everyone else in his family. In 5 years hell be an assistant at Trinity

[TrueblueCATfan]

Let's see what ESPN thinks. Click Here (http://sports.espn.go.com/broadband/ivp/index?id=2867738)

Bow to the mighty Brian Brohm, Bluebellies!
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he is good...but he is NOT the best in the country

[teamchemistry09]

All they can do is try and make jokes. They have no support what so ever so im not letting them get to me. Once they realize they have no chance in an argument they just resort to being immature

[CardinalNation]

All they can do is try and make jokes. They have no support what so ever so im not letting them get to me. Once they realize they have no chance in an argument they just resort to being immature
You like jokes? Try Clicking Here (http://youtube.com/watch?v=PR-AOZy4JJk)to remind yourself about last year. Enjoy!

[lighthouse]

Please, continue your cockiness. I'm so glad your QB is getting all this attention, it can affect his attitude. If ours improves as much this year as he did last year, his time will come. Pre-season attention means nothing when the season starts. OBTW, did you notice how many SEC QB'S were on that list?

[Yuleofell]

All they can do is try and make jokes. They have no support what so ever so im not letting them get to me. Once they realize they have no chance in an argument they just resort to being immature


No support? Brohm is the number one QB in the country. Woodson might be a 6th round draft pick IF he picks it up a notch this season. The only comparison is in your imagination. He would be in a dead heat with Pat Carter to be our 3rd string QB.

P.S. 2 out of the top 10 are Big East QBs. That is 20% of the top ten best QBs and 25% of the total number of Big East starting QBs.

[MercerTitans]

[QUOTE=Yuleofell;283684]Woodson might be a 6th round draft pick IF he picks it up a notch this season. [QUOTE]

With posts like that, you're a candidate to be on one of those ESPN commercials where they "talk sports out of their (rear)".

[TrueblueCATfan]

No support? Brohm is the number one QB in the country. Woodson might be a 6th round draft pick IF he picks it up a notch this season. The only comparison is in your imagination. He would be in a dead heat with Pat Carter to be our 3rd string QB.

P.S. 2 out of the top 10 are Big East QBs. That is 20% of the top ten best QBs and 25% of the total number of Big East starting QBs.

your opinion..if Woodson is not good then explain how he threw for 31 TD's and had 3515 yards against one of the toughest schedules in the country

[teamchemistry09]

No support? Brohm is the number one QB in the country. Woodson might be a 6th round draft pick IF he picks it up a notch this season. The only comparison is in your imagination. He would be in a dead heat with Pat Carter to be our 3rd string QB.

P.S. 2 out of the top 10 are Big East QBs. That is 20% of the top ten best QBs and 25% of the total number of Big East starting QBs.

Brohm is the number 1 QB according to like 2 people who arent uofl fans. Most people have him in the top 10 but not at number 1. You wont convince me that Brohm is better than John David Booty, Pat White, Colt Brennan, Colt McCoy, Eric Ainge, the guy from Texas Tech (cant think of his name) and even Weinke out of Michigan. Woodson will be a 1st round pick this year because he only gets better after every game. Woodson will come close to 40 TDs this year and probably hit close to 4000 yards. Brohm will most likely have the better record but that says nothing about him being the number 1 QB in the nation. That just means that he has a better team and easier schedule. I gurantee Woodson will have better numbers than Brohm this year. Write it down

[CardinalNation]

I gurantee Woodson will have better numbers than Brohm this year. Write it down
I did!:icon_confused::thumbup:

[teamchemistry09]

Youll be regreting that about half way through the season when Woodsons numbers are through the roof.

[TrueblueCATfan]

I did!:icon_confused::thumbup:

funny thing is..he had better numbers this past season than Brohm

[teamchemistry09]

Yes he did. But Brohm played with a sore thumb lol. The guy gets hit 2 or 3 times in a game and expects to be pampered for weeks. So much for the composure QBs are supposed to have

[CardinalNation]

Yes he did. But Brohm played with a sore thumb lol. The guy gets hit 2 or 3 times in a game and expects to be pampered for weeks. So much for the composure QBs are supposed to have
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[Yuleofell]

funny thing is..he had better numbers this past season than Brohm

Huh? Did you find this on the Blew Blocker stats line?

Brohm QB rating 159.08 63.6% completion percentage 9.7 yds/attempt

Woodson QB rating 154.5 63% completion perecentage 8.4 yds/attempt

When looking at QB's NFL teams look heavily at completion percentage and yards per attempt. Brohm's were down slightly due to the nagging injuries he had last season. He should have been better than 10 yards per attempt and had his QB rating around 170. Woodson's numbers were fantastic against lesser competition and bottomed badly against good opponents. This is why Brohm will be a #1 draft pick and why Woodson still has work to do.

[TrueblueCATfan]

Huh? Did you find this on the Blew Blocker stats line?

Brohm QB rating 159.08 63.6% completion percentage 9.7 yds/attempt

Woodson QB rating 154.5 63% completion perecentage 8.4 yds/attempt

When looking at QB's NFL teams look heavily at completion percentage and yards per attempt. Brohm's were down slightly due to the nagging injuries he had last season. He should have been better than 10 yards per attempt and had his QB rating around 170. Woodson's numbers were fantastic against lesser competition and bottomed badly against good opponents. This is why Brohm will be a #1 draft pick and why Woodson still has work to do.

how many TD's did Brohm throw last season and how many yards did he have

[chworld22]

Huh? Did you find this on the Blew Blocker stats line?

Brohm QB rating 159.08 63.6% completion percentage 9.7 yds/attempt

Woodson QB rating 154.5 63% completion perecentage 8.4 yds/attempt

When looking at QB's NFL teams look heavily at completion percentage and yards per attempt. Brohm's were down slightly due to the nagging injuries he had last season. He should have been better than 10 yards per attempt and had his QB rating around 170. Woodson's numbers were fantastic against lesser competition and bottomed badly against good opponents. This is why Brohm will be a #1 draft pick and why Woodson still has work to do.

You would be one to talk about lesser competition! Anyone with any talent should be able to feast in the big least. If he was playing the competition that Woodson did from week to week then his numbers would be WAY down.

Brohm played against UK, Temple, Miami (FL), Syracuse, WVU, Rutgers, USF, PITT, UCONN, and Wake. Of them you could maybe make a case for two maybe three decent to good defenses.

Woodson played Louisville, TSU, Ole Miss, UF, Central Michigan, South Flordia, LSU, Miss St., UGA, Vandy, Lousiana-Monroe, UT, and Clemson of which you could make a case for atleast 4 maybe up to 6.

[CardinalNation]

I love Woodson. If it wasn't for him, UK could have beaten us 2 years ago. I loved it when he fumbled on the one yard line.
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[BamaCat86]

Two years later and he was still out of bounds before he lost control of the football. Instant replay isn't all that it is made out to be!

Lucky break for U OF SMELL!

[Cards R Best]

Two years later and he was still out of bounds before he lost control of the football. Instant replay isn't all that it is made out to be!

Lucky break for U OF SMELL!

....and 3 years later Patty Sparks still walked before he was fouled. Lucky break for ULAKAY....but you know what we lost that game you lost the football game so that evens that out. Lets get on the Sept 15th(boy that really sucks)!!!!!!!

[chworld22]

....and 3 years later Patty Sparks still walked before he was fouled. Lucky break for ULAKAY....but you know what we lost that game you lost the football game so that evens that out. Lets get on the Sept 15th(boy that really sucks)!!!!!!!

And the play before that Ravi Moss or Azibuke (I forgot who) got screwed on that blocking call that was a charge. So if you want to play that card then we can go back and forth all say about that game.

That out of bounds call was obvious and the refs whiffed on it. As well as many other calls that day.

[rickdacatkilla]

funny thing is..he had better numbers this past season than Brohm

sorry sister even if that is true...that's because we HAD a running game...unlike uk. period.

[rickdacatkilla]

You like jokes? Try Clicking Here (http://youtube.com/watch?v=PR-AOZy4JJk)to remind yourself about last year. Enjoy!

man, who sings that song??? it rocks..Let's start a riot,,I'll be screaming that the rest of the night.

[Yuleofell]

You would be one to talk about lesser competition! Anyone with any talent should be able to feast in the big least. If he was playing the competition that Woodson did from week to week then his numbers would be WAY down.

Brohm played against UK, Temple, Miami (FL), Syracuse, WVU, Rutgers, USF, PITT, UCONN, and Wake. Of them you could maybe make a case for two maybe three decent to good defenses.

Woodson played Louisville, TSU, Ole Miss, UF, Central Michigan, South Flordia, LSU, Miss St., UGA, Vandy, Lousiana-Monroe, UT, and Clemson of which you could make a case for atleast 4 maybe up to 6.

Brohm's numbers

vs miami Qb rating 203.6 completions 71.4%
West Virginia 200.14 73.1%
Rutgers 103.67 48.1%
Wake Forest 147.42 70.6%


Woodson's
vs. LSU QB rating 66.7 completions 37.8%
Georgia 133.5 71.9%
Florida 126.8 70.3%
UL 159.6 37.5%

[chworld22]

Brohm's numbers

vs miami Qb rating 203.6 completions 71.4%
West Virginia 200.14 73.1%
Rutgers 103.67 48.1%
Wake Forest 147.42 70.6%


Woodson's
vs. LSU QB rating 66.7 completions 37.8%
Georgia 133.5 71.9%
Florida 126.8 70.3%
UL 159.6 37.5%

Woodson's
vs. Tenn Yds. TD's
Woodson 39-26-0 282 1 41 1 (Completions 67%)

vs. Clemson (who Beat Wake with Defense)
Woodson 28-20-0 299 3 70 4 (Completions 71%)


And Miami should not even be included in your stats they sucked this year

[PitinoLooksBetterInRed]

Woodson's
vs. Tenn Yds. TD's
Woodson 39-26-0 282 1 41 1 (Completions 67%)

vs. Clemson (who Beat Wake with Defense)
Woodson 28-20-0 299 3 70 4 (Completions 71%)


And Miami should not even be included in your stats they sucked this year

Miami couldve taken out Clemson at the time you played them (losing 4 of their last 5). And this shows we cant go by QB rating because Woodson was a complete choke against Louisville last year. He didnt complete a single pass in the first quarter and racked up yards against our prevent defense once we were coasting at 28-0.

[teamchemistry09]

We all understand that you guys destroyed us last year but we are talking about the whole season not just one game. Woodson threw for more yards than Brohm and had the same amount of TDs. They both had good games and bad games. But the numbers dont lie. They are in a dead heat

[chworld22]

We all understand that you guys destroyed us last year but we are talking about the whole season not just one game. Woodson threw for more yards than Brohm and had the same amount of TDs. They both had good games and bad games. But the numbers dont lie. They are in a dead heat

And it is still a FACT that Woodson did against better competition! But Woodson racked up against weak teams right? Brohm racked up against weak teams all year long. What did he have against Temple. How do you send your first string quarter back out there in the second half?

[teamchemistry09]

Yea I love it that they talk about the weak competition we played but we played more ranked teams than they did. I guess those ranked teams had bad defenses right?

[chworld22]

Yea I love it that they talk about the weak competition we played but we played more ranked teams than they did. I guess those ranked teams had bad defenses right?

Yea and all of the teams they played had greatly under estimated defenses.

[4thecards]

We all understand that you guys destroyed us last year but we are talking about the whole season not just one game. Woodson threw for more yards than Brohm and had the same amount of TDs. They both had good games and bad games. But the numbers dont lie. They are in a dead heat

You are forgetting that Brohm sat out two games.

Brohm averaged 277 ypg, if you add that on(x2) to his total from last year, that gives him 3649 yards for the season. Compared to Woodson's 3515. Still close, but Brohm would have had more. I mean, if we are going to be fair about it.

[TrueblueCATfan]

....and 3 years later Patty Sparks still walked before he was fouled. Lucky break for ULAKAY....but you know what we lost that game you lost the football game so that evens that out. Lets get on the Sept 15th(boy that really sucks)!!!!!!!

choke ..choke.....isn't that the game you blew a 16 point lead on your home court with Franko doing the macarena on the BIRD

[TrueblueCATfan]

Owned

[TrueblueCATfan]

And the play before that Ravi Moss or Azibuke (I forgot who) got screwed on that blocking call that was a charge. So if you want to play that card then we can go back and forth all say about that game.

That out of bounds call was obvious and the refs whiffed on it. As well as many other calls that day.

I believe it was Azibuke.....he was floored by O'Bannon..no call......Sparks was hacked by 2 who fell on top of him...it was the RIGHT call.....the birds blew it and they know it

[TrueblueCATfan]

sorry sister even if that is true...that's because we HAD a running game...unlike uk. period.

....so you are saying I am right

[rickdacatkilla]

I tried to end this debate on the football board, both are good QB's, Brohm is a better passer, Woodson is a better athlete. Brohm will go higher in the draft, both should have good NFL careers...We are lucky to have 2 of the best QB's in the nation here in KY. Nuff said.

Also, Brohm missed the Temple game last year and a few others so the stat line is a little misleading...

[chworld22]

I tried to end this debate on the football board, both are good QB's, Brohm is a better passer, Woodson is a better athlete. Brohm will go higher in the draft, both should have good NFL careers...We are lucky to have 2 of the best QB's in the nation here in KY. Nuff said.

Also, Brohm missed the Temple game last year and a few others so the stat line is a little misleading...

Brohm did NOT miss the Temple game (Brohm, Brian 29-16-1 307 1 57 1)! He actually played almost the entire game since since Petrino felt it neccessary to rub it in Temples face.

He missed two whole games against sub par teams so his stats would have been higher but they would have been misleading also.

[PitinoLooksBetterInRed]

Brohm did NOT miss the Temple game (Brohm, Brian 29-16-1 307 1 57 1)! He actually played almost the entire game since since Petrino felt it neccessary to rub it in Temples face.

He missed two whole games against sub par teams so his stats would have been higher but they would have been misleading also.

Brohm wasnt 100% healthy until the WVU game. After he hurt his thumb he spent the next 3 weeks rehabbing his knee again because it still wasnt 100%. Then against Cincy and Syracuse his thumb wasnt 100%.

Also, why is it a "Fact" Woodson didnt better in big games? Andre was a complete choke against Louisville (until we used our prevent defense) and LSU. Are you counting Georgia a big game? Brohm was one bad quarter from leading us to a national championship, and i still think the O-line was more to blame in the Rutgers game.

[chworld22]

Brohm wasnt 100% healthy until the WVU game. After he hurt his thumb he spent the next 3 weeks rehabbing his knee again because it still wasnt 100%. Then against Cincy and Syracuse his thumb wasnt 100%.

Also, why is it a "Fact" Woodson didnt better in big games? Andre was a complete choke against Louisville (until we used our prevent defense) and LSU. Are you counting Georgia a big game? Brohm was one bad quarter from leading us to a national championship, and i still think the O-line was more to blame in the Rutgers game.

Being injuried is no excuse against teams like he played before that WVU game anyway.

Also I never said he played better in big games I said he played against better competition and there is no way you can argue against that. I know that Brohm had better stats than Woodson without a doubt he played better overall this season. I just think that if Woodson played the type of competition that Brohm did then the numbers would be a lot closer than they are now.

[CardinalNation]

Two years later and he was still out of bounds before he lost control of the football. Instant replay isn't all that it is made out to be!

Lucky break for U OF SMELL!
I was there and saw it with my own eyes. He fumbled away the ballgame, single handily. Thank you again, Mr. Woodson. If I ever see you out, sometime, I'll buy you a drink!
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[TrueblueCATfan]

I was there and saw it with my own eyes. He fumbled away the ballgame, single handily. Thank you again, Mr. Woodson. If I ever see you out, sometime, I'll buy you a drink!
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buy him a drink..but I thought you did not drink and drive...which is???????

[CardinalNation]

buy him a drink..but I thought you did not drink and drive...which is???????
Who said a thing about driving? And do you think all drinks are alcohol? I'll buy him a lemonade or an iced tea. Get your mind out of the gutter, girl.:icon_lol:
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[4thecards]

Brohm did NOT miss the Temple game (Brohm, Brian 29-16-1 307 1 57 1)! He actually played almost the entire game since since Petrino felt it neccessary to rub it in Temples face.

He missed two whole games against sub par teams so his stats would have been higher but they would have been misleading also.

subpar competiton? KSU went to a bowl and I believe MSTU did also. Don't forget about the cupcakes on UK's schedule. You don't play Florida EVERY week.

[MercerTitans]

subpar competiton? KSU went to a bowl and I believe MSTU did also. Don't forget about the cupcakes on UK's schedule. You don't play Florida EVERY week.

O course we don't . . . we also play the likes of Tennessee, UGA, LSU, UL, Arkansas . . .

Laughable that you mention MTSU . . . guess you think since they went to a bowl, that must mean that they are "quality" competition. They play in the SUN BELT! Give me a break! All those years in C-USA must have foggied your mind as to what a good football league is.

[chworld22]

subpar competiton? KSU went to a bowl and I believe MSTU did also. Don't forget about the cupcakes on UK's schedule. You don't play Florida EVERY week.

LOL come on dude you did not seriously say something about them making a bowl as a way to say they weren't cupcakes. There are so many bowls now all you have to do is hit 500 to get a chance at one. Central Michigan went to a bowl last year (in which they BEAT Middle Tenn by the way pretty easily).

[Yuleofell]

LOL come on dude you did not seriously say something about them making a bowl as a way to say they weren't cupcakes. There are so many bowls now all you have to do is hit 500 to get a chance at one. Central Michigan went to a bowl last year (in which they BEAT Middle Tenn by the way pretty easily).

He's right. Uk went to a friggin bowl game! That tells you right there how watered down bowls have become.

Was it Louisiana-Monroe or Louisiana-Lafayette that almost beat the might Kitties last season?

[CardinalNation]

[quote=MercerTitans;284500]laughable that you mention MTSU . . . guess you think since they went to a bowl, that must mean that they are "quality" competition. quote]


Not everyone gets to play in the Gaylord Hotels Music City Bowl.
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[chworld22]

He's right. Uk went to a friggin bowl game! That tells you right there how watered down bowls have become.

Was it Louisiana-Monroe or Louisiana-Lafayette that almost beat the might Kitties last season?

[quote=MercerTitans;284500]laughable that you mention MTSU . . . guess you think since they went to a bowl, that must mean that they are "quality" competition. quote]


Not everyone gets to play in the Gaylord Hotels Music City Bowl.
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I never said UK was "quality" competition and you are right the gaylord bowl isn't that great but it is better than going to the motor city bowl or the hawaii bowl. It doesn't really matter which bowl you go to if it isn't a BCS then it is a consilation prize.

[rickdacatkilla]

Named after this Gaylord....

[TrueblueCATfan]

Named after this Gaylord....

Freaking funniest movie ever............