Coach Gillispie on not wanting to be called "Clyde"

[JohnJ]

Here is an interesting article I saw on another board and am posting here especially for the people with an unnatural fascination/fetish/whatever involving the name "Clyde."

http://www.810whb.com/scripts/archives/getStory.asp?article=9403

... Their friendship has even withstood Self including Gillispie's middle name of "Clyde" whenever he refers to his former assistant. A little habit Self picked up to avoid confusion with two Billys on the same staff.

"Only Bill Self can get away with that," Gillispie said. ...

[Josh]

Yeah, I don't understand the desire to not call our coaches (present and former), "Coach ........."

To me, he's either Coach or Coach Gillispie. Not Billy or Billy Clyde or BCG or whatever. I just don't like it for some reason. I'm sure it irritates him as well.

[Will Lavender]

I think it has to do with Clyde having a distinctly Southern feel. Sounds like he could have walked right out of Eastern Kentucky onto the Rupp Arena floor.

But heck! I'm gonna have to change my sig. The last thing I want is to tick Billy Cly...er...Coach Gillispie off. :eek:

[TrueblueCATfan]

I have alwyas felt he should be addressed Coach Gillispie

[RV]

It's actually Coach Gillispie.

[UKhoov]

If he keeps up the recruiting like he has and manages to gets us where we want to be.....I'll call him whatever he wants me to call him.

[Hurricanefballfan]

I think it has to do with Clyde having a distinctly Southern feel. Sounds like he could have walked right out of Eastern Kentucky onto the Rupp Arena floor.

what is with the eastern kentucky reference ? don't know if i get that or what you are trying to say there. wasn't it coach gillispie that said, "i am just a down home country boy". so under those pre tenses, wouldn't it to be expected that people would call him clyde? also, i don't recall that the article states why he doesn't like being called that. just a joking comment about self is the only one who can get away with it. seems like a little bit of conjecture and presumption on your part.

[bluegrassking]

I'll be sticking with Billy Clyde because I like it.

[SamKat]

I will revere the new era of Coach Billy Gillispie at Kentucky. I really believe it will be a great ride with our Texas Coach.

[Brian McCat]

I'll be sticking with Billy Clyde because I like it.

Got that passive/aggressive thing going on, dontcha? ;)

[Will Lavender]

what is with the eastern kentucky reference ? don't know if i get that or what you are trying to say there. wasn't it coach gillispie that said, "i am just a down home country boy". so under those pre tenses, wouldn't it to be expected that people would call him clyde?

That's exactly what I'm saying.

[Kentucker]

I'm from Eastern Kentucky so Billy Clyde sounds natural to me, but if he prefers something else then I'll change.

Welcome to Kentucky, Coach!

[Bird]

How about calling him the "Honorable Sir form the State of Texas Mr. William Clyde Gillispie the Third, Esq." It has a nice flow to it I think

[RCS]

At his introduction, he said, 'wait I have 2 first names. It is Billy Clyde.' Doesn't sound like he minds being called Billy Clyde considering he is the one who told us to do so. I am sticking with it.

[BowlingGreenUKGrad]

I've always had a problem with coaches who feel they have to be addressed as "Coach so-and-so" like their title is so important that it's disrepect to be addressed by their regular name. I'm not saying Gillispie is like this, just coaches in general.

It's not like you're a judge or a congressman or a doctor ... you're just a coach.

[zonetoncatfan]

I hope to be calling him "Coach of the 2008 NCAA Champs" by next April!!!! :)

[Stucat]

I think it has to do with Clyde having a distinctly Southern feel. Sounds like he could have walked right out of Eastern Kentucky onto the Rupp Arena floor.

But heck! I'm gonna have to change my sig. The last thing I want is to tick Billy Cly...er...Coach Gillispie off. :eek:


"Sounds like he could have walked right out of Eastern Kentucky onto the Rupp Arena floor."


As far as that goes Will any part of Kentucky.

[CATHYnKY]

I'll be sticking with Billy Clyde because I like it.

Me too. I'll try not to reference Coach Gillispie as Billy Clyde, but it will be hard. Wait til he steps on to the floor at Big Blue Madness and the first game at Rupp. Bet he won't mind being called Billy Clyde

[bluegrassking]

Got that passive/aggressive thing going on, dontcha? ;)

Elaborate. I made a statement of my opinion.

[Brian McCat]

Elaborate.

Passive-aggressive behavior refers to passive, sometimes obstructionist resistance to authoritative instructions in interpersonal or occupational situations. It can manifest itself as resentment, stubbornness, procrastination, sullenness, or repeated failure to accomplish requested tasks for which one is assumed, often explicitly, to be responsible. It is a defensive posture and, more often than not, only partly conscious. For example, people who are passive-aggressive might take so long to get ready for a party they do not wish to attend, that the party is nearly over by the time they arrive.*

* or call someone Clyde that does not wish to be called Clyde.

link (http://www.answers.com/topic/passive-aggressive)

[BrassowFan]

I think it has to do with Clyde having a distinctly Southern feel. Sounds like he could have walked right out of Eastern Kentucky onto the Rupp Arena floor.

But heck! I'm gonna have to change my sig. The last thing I want is to tick Billy Cly...er...Coach Gillispie off. :eek:

I think that it is common in rural areas, not just Eastern Kentucky, that both first and middle names are used in passing. The only guess that I can make is that in those areas, people are more likely to pass names down from one generation to the next, therefore using the middle name to distinguish between father & son.:shrug1:

Personally, it's a practice that I've never cared for. I've always hated names like "Ruth Ann", "Mary Jo" and various others so I can understand where Coach Gillispie is coming from. IMO, if you felt the need to embellish the first name, maybe it's a poor choice and the parents should find another. Luckily for me, I guess, growing up in Louisville, it wasn't that common of a practice, except for some who were within a generation of moving to the city.

[POEKLM]

I haven't read this whole thread but I know if I heard Marsha Jean from my mother I was in TROUBLE!!!

[TrueblueCATfan]

I haven't read this whole thread but I know if I heard Marsha Jean from my mother I was in TROUBLE!!!

same here Marsha..I always knew when I was called by both names I was in deep trouble

[bluegrassking]

Passive-aggressive behavior refers to passive, sometimes obstructionist resistance to authoritative instructions in interpersonal or occupational situations. It can manifest itself as resentment, stubbornness, procrastination, sullenness, or repeated failure to accomplish requested tasks for which one is assumed, often explicitly, to be responsible. It is a defensive posture and, more often than not, only partly conscious. For example, people who are passive-aggressive might take so long to get ready for a party they do not wish to attend, that the party is nearly over by the time they arrive.*

* or call someone Clyde that does not wish to be called Clyde.

link (http://www.answers.com/topic/passive-aggressive)

The basketball coach isn't an authority figure to me. If Billy Clyde wants to cut me a check then I'll reexamine this but until then he is a public figure.

[Will Lavender]

Personally, it's a practice that I've never cared for. I've always hated names like "Ruth Ann", "Mary Jo" and various others so I can understand where Coach Gillispie is coming from. IMO, if you felt the need to embellish the first name, maybe it's a poor choice and the parents should find another. Luckily for me, I guess, growing up in Louisville, it wasn't that common of a practice, except for some who were within a generation of moving to the city.

Thanks a lot!

Sincerely,
Will Bob

[Chaz]

The basketball coach isn't an authority figure to me. If Billy Clyde wants to cut me a check then I'll reexamine this but until then he is a public figure.
It dosen't matter if he is an authority figure to you or not. It is being Blantantly disrepectful to continue to call a person by a name which you know they do not wish to be addressed by.

[BrassowFan]

Thanks a lot!

Sincerely,
Will Bob

:icon_lol:

[Josh]

It dosen't matter if he is an authority figure to you or not. It is being Blantantly disrepectful to continue to call a person by a name which you know they do not wish to be addressed by.

I agree with you, Chaz. Whether Coach is a public figure, authority figure, or an action-figure, if his wishes are not to be called "Billy Clyde" or "Clyde," we should not be against it at all and should respect his wishes. I don't understand why anyone would go against that, even if he'll never see it in the friendly confines of Wildcat Nation.

[RCS]

I actually read the article for the first time and it sounds to me like he is just kidding around. Considering that he brought it up at the pep rally, I seriously doubt he actually minds being called Billy Clyde.

[Stucat]

I actually read the article for the first time and it sounds to me like he is just kidding around. Considering that he brought it up at the pep rally, I seriously doubt he actually minds being called Billy Clyde.


I read the article several times myself RCS and I agree with you. I think Coach Gillispie made the statement about Billy Clyde in jest. I think a few of our fans may have a problem with Billy G. being called Billy Clyde but I don't think our Coach does.

[bluegrassking]

Why are people up in freaking arms about this anyway?

Guess what? If the man hadn't introduced himself as such then I would have never known Clyde was his name because I never would have bothered to find out. Unlike many who care about celeberities, I could care less what goes on outside of entertaining me.

and

Most would attest that I have little issue being directly aggressive when I elect to.

If I need a shrink then a armchair type surely wouldn't be up for the job. I seldom halfstep. If I'm nuts then someone with a few classes that I've taken myself won't be much help.

[BrassowFan]

Why are people up in freaking arms about this anyway?

I posted my personal preference on the topic, but in the scheme of things, it isn't a big deal, unless it is something that he truly doesn't like, in which case we should respect his wishes.

[bleedbluelady]

I posted my personal preference on the topic, but in the scheme of things, it isn't a big deal, unless it is something that he truly doesn't like, in which case we should respect his wishes.

Exactly. What could be the rationale someone wants to address somebody by a name they don't like? :shrug1::confused:

[bret1555]

I've always had a problem with coaches who feel they have to be addressed as "Coach so-and-so" like their title is so important that it's disrepect to be addressed by their regular name. I'm not saying Gillispie is like this, just coaches in general.

It's not like you're a judge or a congressman or a doctor ... you're just a coach.

I think this is all relative to how you view coaching. If you believe coaches are "just coaches," then I have an argument. In survey after survey throughout the years, athletic coaches have ranked closely behind parents as the main influences on people's lives (specifically males). As a coach myself, I take great pride in the title of Coach. Much like Doctors or Lawyers, Coaches are professionals. Judge is not a profession, it is a job, a person who becomes a judge is generally in the law profession. It is the title itself which necessitates a title. Congressman, Senator, Mr. President, etc. are all similar; none of these positions is a profession, they are jobs. The title of the job is what rates specific manner of address. In my book, a coach of the state university is justified in expecting the courtesy of being addressed as "Coach," in much the same way that, as a teacher and coach, I would expect people in the community who don't know me to refer to me as Mr. or Coach.

Sorry to go off on a tangent, I just felt the need to defend the coaching profession.