View Full Version : Tipton: Too many Cats commitments?
AndyPopCat
07-08-2007, 08:23 AM
AKRON, Ohio --Recruiting analysts and college coaches aren't the only people who have noticed the many commitments Billy Gillispie has picked up in his three months as Kentucky coach.
So, too, have the committed players and other prospects being wooed by Kentucky.
For Willie Warren, a senior-to-be from Fort Worth, Texas, the commitments are off-putting.
"It's going to be tough for Kentucky now," Warren said yesterday after playing his first game in the LeBron James Skills Academy.
Warren was one of the first prospects mentioned as a possible UK target after Gillispie became coach. They shared a Texas background, and Gillispie had already established a relationship while coaching Texas A&M.
But now that Gillispie has gotten commitments from such guards as DeAndre Liggins (Class of 2008), G.J. Vilarino (Class of 2009) and K.C. Ross-Miller (Class of 2010), Warren is cooling on Kentucky....
http://www.kentucky.com/269/story/118357.html
Well he should have committed already :) Now hes tasting a bit of dust.
Got_Billie_G?
07-08-2007, 10:27 AM
Who cares....right he should have committed 5 months ago, and to say that Liggins is a deterrant is stupid, Liggins will most likely play the point, with Vilarino...and if Warren is as good as he thinks he is he won't be around by the time KC Ross Miller gets here...we don't need Warren as bad since we have Liggins and I think he knows it, we need to focus on gettins a SF/PF/C
UKSam
07-08-2007, 10:27 AM
With the number of pg's that have comitted to us I would have to agree that playing time is going to be hard to get.
I do love the recruitment excitement that has been generated in the last three months. I am just amazed how the recruitment game has changed. In the past if a jr was looked at it was because they happened to be in a game where coaches were looking at a good sr. Now looking at 8th-9th graders......Wow.
RP_McMurphy
07-08-2007, 11:00 AM
I will always take having too many players over too few players.
mrgwildcat
07-08-2007, 11:17 AM
lol. ur right, he should have done it a long time ago. he's had way to many chances and way too long. he's just hurting himself. how is it Billy G's fault that he is looking for other players because u cant make up ur mind?
DCWildcat
07-08-2007, 11:28 AM
Tipton is ridiculous. I found myself wondering if he could still possibly stay as negative as he could after Tubby left. Now that Gillispie's in charge and is doing as close to a perfect job as one can reasonably expect, Tipton is still finding ways to insert negativity where none can possibly exist.
I wonder how long he spent convincing Warren that the commitments should be off-putting before he finally got him to say it.
Then, of course, there's the insinuation that Gillispie's duping players with the point guard/lead guard distinction.
I have never seen any hometown newspaper with as much of an anti-hometown sports slant as the LHL.
KennesawCat
07-08-2007, 12:22 PM
This whole concept of "It's going to be hard for UK to get commitments because they have so many commitments" is on the same vein as a great quote by Yogi: "No one goes to that restaraunt anymore because it's too crowded."
BUDDYRUPP
07-08-2007, 01:13 PM
:widcat: jmo, but tippton's job for lhl, to me it is like the guy who works for
the sewer plant, you know the one with stick who stirs up a bad smell.
he gets paid to do this, because it sells newspapers. would i want to
know this guy, no. would i want to dig and find out details about his job,
no. if anyone ask me about him or his job, i would probably say, sorry,
i am not interested in that line of work, the job just is too tasteless,
oooh, the smell, i really do not know how they find anyone to do such
a awful, unhealthy job. i want even discuss something like that.
rupp: winning is everything!!:icon_lol::icon_rolleyes::shrug1:
bleedbluelady
07-08-2007, 01:22 PM
Warren is a kid and as his mother has said, he talks too much. So, I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. But, I doubt this comment would go over well with any of the coaches at major programs...
"I want to get in and make an immediate impact," Warren said. "I don't want to go to a school where if I don't play well right away, I can be substituted for."
matt colvin
07-08-2007, 01:25 PM
Warren is a kid and as his mother has said, he talks too much. So, I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. But, I doubt this comment would go over well with any of the coaches at major programs...
"I want to get in and make an immediate impact," Warren said. "I don't want to go to a school where if I don't play well right away, I can be substituted for."
I thought about posting that too, but I didn't. Makes your change your mind a little about him, doesn't it? Give me Clarke and a big guy, and I'll be happy as a kid at Christmas!
Go Cats!!
bleedbluelady
07-08-2007, 01:32 PM
I thought about posting that too, but I didn't. Makes your change your mind a little about him, doesn't it? Give me Clarke and a big guy, and I'll be happy as a kid at Christmas!
Go Cats!!
Meh. Consider the source. :shrug1:
matt colvin
07-08-2007, 01:52 PM
Meh. Consider the source. :shrug1:
Yeah, I know Tipton probably helped coax him into that, but you still need to be mature enough to know what you're saying. I'll say this, Willie: listen to your mom :thumbup:
Terry L. Wildcat
07-08-2007, 03:01 PM
Too many commitments :icon_rolleyes: :icon_rolleyes: :icon_rolleyes:
katfever
07-08-2007, 05:03 PM
That young man needs a major attitude adjustment- I would prefer he not come to UK if he thinks like that.
KY Blue in Carolina
07-08-2007, 07:02 PM
I cannot imagine a problem I'd rather have.
bluecat406
07-08-2007, 10:42 PM
The problem here is not Willie Warren, It's Jerry Tipton. I might be wrong, but I think the first question Tipton asked Coach Gillispie in his press conference after being hired was "how does it make you feel to be the 3rd choice for Kentucky's coach." Classless. Does anyone know Tipton's hearald Leader email address? Maybe if he gets some requests for positive articles instead of negative he'll change his outlook.
Tipton is ridiculous. I found myself wondering if he could still possibly stay as negative as he could after Tubby left. Now that Gillispie's in charge and is doing as close to a perfect job as one can reasonably expect, Tipton is still finding ways to insert negativity where none can possibly exist.
I wonder how long he spent convincing Warren that the commitments should be off-putting before he finally got him to say it.
Then, of course, there's the insinuation that Gillispie's duping players with the point guard/lead guard distinction.
I have never seen any hometown newspaper with as much of an anti-hometown sports slant as the LHL.
I was just thinking the same thing. Some people just enjoy misery, finding absolutely anything and trying to turn it into a negative, and then bestowing it upon others. What a shame to live life that way.
I'm in agreement with everyone else. I'll take the "too many recruits" approach rather than "too few."
If the team is full of players, why do you care if others are turned off? Makes zero sense, but then it is Tipton. This is a new low for him. Too many commitments? Seriously? Since when is signing top 30 guys a bad thing?
BigBlue75
07-09-2007, 12:10 PM
Warren is a kid and as his mother has said, he talks too much. So, I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. But, I doubt this comment would go over well with any of the coaches at major programs...
"I want to get in and make an immediate impact," Warren said. "I don't want to go to a school where if I don't play well right away, I can be substituted for."
Well, I agree that a comment like that could cause a few coaching eyebrows to be raised, but as much as anything, I think it speaks to Warren's maturity level. He needs to realize that while he might be the BMOC at the high school he goes to, when he goes to college, especially if it's UK, he's going to be surrounded by guys just like him. Further, even impact players are going to have an off-night from time to time and he needs to be able to deal with having to ride the pine if he isn't on his game.
Having said that, I don't think this is something to be especially concerned with. This is still a kid we're dealing with and sometimes he's going to run his mouth before his brain is engaged.
DonnieKat
07-09-2007, 01:38 PM
Tipton is an idiot. He chastizes Tubby for poor recruiting and then chastizes Bill Gillispie for agressive recruiting. Who can win with this guy?
I may be in the minority here, but I'm glad Washington isn't coming and Willie Warren has cooled on Kentucky. Ideally, I want Zeller, Crez (the Polish guy) and Darius Miller to fill the last three spots.
caliparifan
07-09-2007, 02:10 PM
I'm double his age and I still run my mouth without thinking every once in a while. I think the kid might be feeling slighted by the recent onslaught of guards who have committed while he was trying to play the field. Sorry, kiddo, I guess we'll see you wearing red then.
WW is a great talent, and I would love to have him, but I also won't be losing any sleep over not getting him. Like he said, we have plenty of guards. Zeller, Miller and either Clark, Hopson or another big and I will be happy as a clam. Zeller or another impact big is key to this class. You take a guy like WW any time you can due to his talent, but he is far from a need at this point.
ukbob
07-09-2007, 04:17 PM
Tipton sucks.
Hey, we need a negative stance on BG's recruiting so let's go hunt down a 17 year old impetuous kid to interview. Heck, we knew he had given 3 bad verbals already so he must be willing to throw us some quotes to encite the UK fans, eh?
Warren will grow up one day and understand that he isn't the hottest ticket in the world.
And when he does, Tipton and his slanted articles will still suck.
DCWildcat
07-09-2007, 05:14 PM
Tipton sucks.
Hey, we need a negative stance on BG's recruiting so let's go hunt down a 17 year old impetuous kid to interview. Heck, we knew he had given 3 bad verbals already so he must be willing to throw us some quotes to encite the UK fans, eh?
Warren will grow up one day and understand that he isn't the hottest ticket in the world.
And when he does, Tipton and his slanted articles will still suck.
The glorious return of ukbob! Welcome back partner.
RaleighCat
07-09-2007, 05:19 PM
Tipton's act is really wearing thin. It will be interesting to see how BCG handles him as the seasons roll on. I sense enough fire in Coach Gillispie to think he won't put up with much media BS. Where Tubby withdrew from the media circus at times, BCG might just punch right back. We shall see.
matt colvin
07-09-2007, 05:25 PM
Tipton's act is really wearing thin. It will be interesting to see how BCG handles him as the seasons roll on. I sense enough fire in Coach Gillispie to think he won't put up with much media BS. Where Tubby withdrew from the media circus at times, BCG might just punch right back. We shall see.
I hope he does, especially in press conferences. The one on youtube suggests just that. He's not going to go Bobby Knight, but if you ask a stupid question, well you'll get a......
DCWildcat
07-09-2007, 05:43 PM
I hope he does, especially in press conferences. The one on youtube suggests just that. He's not going to go Bobby Knight, but if you ask a stupid question, well you'll get a......
What youtube video are you referring to? I haven't seen it.
matt colvin
07-09-2007, 06:08 PM
What youtube video are you referring to? I haven't seen it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwC7vaeBnpE
The reply I'm referring to is at about 32 seconds into the video. It's also just nice to see some of how our coach handles the media after a loss.
Also, thought I'd throw in a video of him after a win, lol. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQ5b4ebtpiE&mode=related&search=
And I now apologize for detracting from the subject of the thread, which we all love so dearly (Tipton :thumbdn:)
I would MUCH rather have good recruits worried that there may not be room left for them in the class than our recent experience of ploddingly putting together classes of "projects" that never develop and failing to convince nobodies that they should sign with UK over going to prep school.
Tipton is just looking for a reason to complain, and I guess his new reason is, "there's too much good news." I think Coach Gillispe will run circles around Tipton and the other cranky duffers like him, and I'm looking forward to seeing it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwC7vaeBnpE
The reply I'm referring to is at about 32 seconds into the video. It's also just nice to see some of how our coach handles the media after a loss.
Also, thought I'd throw in a video of him after a win, lol. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQ5b4ebtpiE&mode=related&search=
And I now apologize for detracting from the subject of the thread, which we all love so dearly (Tipton :thumbdn:)
Good stuff, Matt. Coach was just peeved off, naturally, but I liked his response. "I'm not trying to be mean, but what was your take on it?" It was a subtle way of saying, "Really, you're asking me that?" The whole switch-a-roo on the press.
This guy rocks.
BigblueDrew
07-09-2007, 11:20 PM
This might be THE DUMBEST article I have ever read. I run a treatment center in a prison and the articles in the Prison Gazette FAR exceed the standards of the LHL. Shockingly bad reporting and writing.
matt colvin
07-09-2007, 11:24 PM
I wanted to point out the thread John Blueblood posted in the basketball forum, calling us "to arms" or in reality, "to our pens" against Tipton and his horrible writings!!!! If enough write in legitimate complaints, we might have our voice heard!!! Strength in numbers.
poodoo
07-12-2007, 10:40 PM
Warren is a kid and as his mother has said, he talks too much. So, I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. But, I doubt this comment would go over well with any of the coaches at major programs...
"I want to get in and make an immediate impact," Warren said. "I don't want to go to a school where if I don't play well right away, I can be substituted for."
I couldn't read the Tipton piece as it is no longer available (and I don't think I mind missing it, as negativity is not my "cup of tea"). I will comment on this quote, though. I think I now understand why the young man verbally committed to BAYLOR before his mom helped him to change his mind. :icon_lol:
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