The guys name is G l a z e r...

[AndyPopCat]

In this installment Glazer details his nightmare trip to Kentucky to see the Bengals:

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/7145394?CMP=OTC-K9B140813162&ATT=5

Yes, it's not a typo, I'm in Kentucky: They said I'd never, ever step foot in Georgetown. I've often joked around that I would never go, being that I'm an ethnic Yawka and I'd stick out worse than Joe Pesci would, or actually did, in "My Cousin Vinny." I mean, I'm a complete dead giveaway for someone who, well, isn't from Kentucky.

Just as the folks from small towns like this have certain preconceived notions about the Big Apple and loud, arrogant, obnoxious, aggressive folks like myself, I've seen things on TV about how city boys and hillbillies don't exactly mix.

Sorry, Georgetown but there was nothing to change my view in the least.

First of all, it's in a dry county. Why is there anywhere in America that is dry? Let's get real people. Not selling alcohol in one area is the dumbest thing in the world. You know what it does? It forces you to travel long distances to the next county to get drunk and then drive aaaaalllll the way back to Georgetown. How stupid is this rule? It also leads to the freaking hillbilly who was selling moonshine out of the back of his truck. Did I just say moonshine? Did I just say hillbilly? Folks, I'm not making this stuff up.

There are actually people who still sell moonshine in Kentucky and there was a guy giving it out from the back of his pickup the weekend I was there.

How do I say this gracefully and without half of Kentucky wanting to hang me by my you know whats? Let's be honest, parts of Kentucky don't exactly have a reputation for hording the members of MENSA or the contestants for the National Spelling Bee. With that in mind, I'm begging the folks in the Georgetown area to hire a full-time scout to walk around the town and correct grammar and spelling in order to dispel the myths.

The two best signs in America are both in Georgetown. First one hung in a WalMart that read, "All movies needs to be pay in electronics." Huh? You is a honor student? Didn't, oh, I don't know, ONE PERSON realize that sentence simply isn't English?

Then, I didn't see this sign but I heard about it, the local Wendy's originally had their big sign out front say, "Now hiring closers." However, the "c" in closers fell off so for a while Wendy's was "Now hiring losers."

Nice.

Worst bar I've been to on the road: The Pub in Lexington, Ky. I've written about places I've loved but I have to give both sides of it. A few Bengals friends and I drove down to Lexington on a Sunday evening to find a few beers and arrived at The Pub in Lexington at 10:30. We were immediately informed that we could only get one round because as the waitress explained, "The police will come in and grab them right off your table at 11 p.m. sharp."

Are you kidding me? That's what the police spend their time on in this town? Are they chasing around bootleggers in old Studebakers? Can you imagine that?

Anyway, back to the waitress and her 11 p.m. cutoff. Last I checked I'm good for a little over a beer in a half hour. Last call? Fine, everyone in my party will have three drinks each and we'll have them polished off at 10:55. Guaranteed!

The waitress, bartender and manager all panicked over this idea as if Elliott Ness would raid the place at any minute. Come on people, we're all adults here. We're talking three lousy beers.

That wasn't the bad part, though. The manager, a total Doogie Howser-looking goober, walked over and the following is the actual conversation that ensued:

Goober Pyle, Manager Extraordinaire: "I understand you ordered three rounds but we can't do that because all alcohol has to be finished by 11."

Aggressive New Yawka Glaze: "That's OK buddy, we'll have them finished off for you, no problem."

Goober Pyle, Manager Extraordinaire: "We can't do that, the police will take them out of your hands. I'm sorry."

Aggressive New Yawka Glaze: "It's OK, I'm willing to do the time."

Goober Pyle, Manager Extraordinaire: "Sorry, it's not going to happen. I can only give you one. We're only looking out for your best interests."

Are you kidding me? This is where I got a little... frustrated shall I say.

Aggressive New Yawka Glaze: "Doogie, you want to protect my best interests, get me a **** 401K plan! Don't let me buy a dog from Bad Newz Kennels but don't tell me you're going to play drink police."

Goober Pyle, Manager Extraordinaire: "It's for your own safety, sir."

Aggressive New Yawka Glaze: "I'm so lucky to have a guardian angel like you at my side. Seriously, where were you when I fell out of that tree house when I was 8, or the time I got my *** choked out in the Octagon or the or the time I took a blow torch in high school and cut off the roof of my car so I could have a convertible. Thank you so much oh Hillbilly guardian."

Goober Pyle, Manger Extraordinaire: "(Blank look)"

The best part of it was we had to drive another 20 minutes to find another place to drink and the waitress from The Pub actually found us there and wanted to sit and drink with us. Let's get this straight, you refuse to serve us and then want to sit and have drinks with us? Aggressive New Yawka Glaze made that the most uncomfortable five minutes of conversation she's spent in a bar in a long, long time.

That night was the longest five years I've spent at one place in my life.

[The Old School JPS]

The bar manager should've have given the loudmouth his three beers to pound in 5 minutes before closing, because after that the loudmouth gets in his car and if he crashes into someone, the bar get sued.

If he hit a telephone pole instead of another car, I don't think it would have bothered me.

[TransientAlum]

Well, that got a response out of me.

[Doug Hardin]

I'm not normally a violent person, but I would like to fight this guy.

[AndyPopCat]

Well, that got a response out of me.

Am I missing something or have the comments been removed?

[bleedbluelady]

I'm not normally a violent person, but I would like to fight this guy.

I'll help you. :mad:

[TransientAlum]

Am I missing something or have the comments been removed?

No that was the totality of my comment.

I love being from Kentucky it is my home - always. This is about stereotyping and generalizations. Replace Hillbilly or Gomer or Goober or whatever he called the owner with any derogatory racial term and the same effect is achieved.

Glazer, in my eyes, has identified himself as a bigot.

[bigjeep]

AndyPopCat has this on the football forum...

[AndyPopCat]

No that was the totality of my comment.

I love being from Kentucky it is my home - always. This is about stereotyping and generalizations. Replace Hillbilly or Gomer or Goober or whatever he called the owner with any derogatory racial term and the same effect is achieved.

Glazer, in my eyes, has identified himself as a bigot.

TA, not your post here on WCN. I'm looking for the comments made to Glazer on the FoxSports site. I saw them earlier at the end of the article and now they appear to be gone?

[matt57]

I've read that and i don't really see what the big deal is. it's his opinion and he's entitled to it. on top of that, most of what he said made sense.

[Matt Dillon]

I'm trying to figure out what this has to do with UK bb.

[bigjeep]

I sent my comments to Fox Sports and not to the obnoxious yankee because I don`t want glazer to think a Cantuckian can tipe on a puter...

[matt colvin]

:icon_rolleyes:

[Will Lavender]

I merged the two threads on this piece because I didn't really see the need for three on the board. (There's one over in General as well.)

[Blue Heaven]

It's got nothing to do with basketball, but it's got everything to do with all Kentuckians, UK fan or not, bombarding this turds e-mail. I am going to send him an ugly one and I encourage others to follow suit, if you haven't already. Glazer, you just opened up a HUGE can of worms and we Kentuckians are about to open up a HUUUGGGEEE can of you know what!:mad:

[Will Lavender]

I've read that and i don't really see what the big deal is. it's his opinion and he's entitled to it. on top of that, most of what he said made sense.

Well, he's clearly trying to rip Kentuckians in a general manner, so in that case it probably is a big deal if you're a native Kentuckian.

Personally, I just think the whole piece is incredibly stupid. People are people; trying to come off as smarter, slicker, meaner just because you're from a certain spot in the world is truly deranged. New York City definitely doesn't have the market cornered on gravitas or pig-headedness (and clearly this guy sees himself as an overly aggressive betamale), and Georgetown, Kentucky most certainly doesn't have the market cornered on grammatical mistakes.

I just see this as more evidence of the long, sad plight of sports journalism in America. Some of these guys get paid to basically make their readers angry, and that's about all they're good at.

[Matt Dillon]

It's got nothing to do with basketball, but it's got everything to do with all Kentuckians, UK fan or not, bombarding this turds e-mail. I am going to send him an ugly one and I encourage others to follow suit, if you haven't already. Glazer, you just opened up a HUGE can of worms and we Kentuckians are about to open up a HUUUGGGEEE can of you know what!:mad:

For the record, I've spent my entire life in SE Ky. I've been a faithful UK fan for the past 52 years, and I'm proud of my mountain heritage. Having said all that, this is much ado about nothing in my opinion. People are entitled to feel the way they want. It just so happens Glazer has a job that gives him a national audiance.

[Will Lavender]

For the record, I've spent my entire life in SE Ky. I've been a faithful UK fan for the past 52 years, and I'm proud of my mountain heritage. Having said all that, this is much ado about nothing in my opinion. People are entitled to feel the way they want. It just so happens Glazer has a job that gives him a national audiance.

Sending the guy e-mails doesn't mean that the one doing the e-mailing is trying to tell Glazer that he can't have an opinion.

It's just...disagreement. Disagreement about a ridiculous opinion.

[bigjeep]

For the record, I've spent my entire life in SE Ky. I've been a faithful UK fan for the past 52 years, and I'm proud of my mountain heritage. Having said all that, this is much ado about nothing in my opinion. People are entitled to feel the way they want. It just so happens Glazer has a job that gives him a national audiance.


If he`d made fun of Chester`s limp would it have offened you?;)

[TrueblueCATfan]

I'll help you. :mad:

me too..slap him upside the head

[TransientAlum]

For the record, I've spent my entire life in SE Ky. I've been a faithful UK fan for the past 52 years, and I'm proud of my mountain heritage. Having said all that, this is much ado about nothing in my opinion. People are entitled to feel the way they want. It just so happens Glazer has a job that gives him a national audiance.


It is never acceptable to stereotype regions of people. That is called blind hatred. Make it about a skin color instead of geography and it is called racism.

There is no difference.

[Matt Dillon]

If he`d made fun of Chester`s limp would it have offened you?;)

I assume your comment is a result of my moniker. Not at all since Dennis Weaver wasn't really handicapped. Had he made fun of someone with a legit disabilty, I would have felt pity for Glazer.

[gerntz]

I think his points about dry counties is right on. This is the home of bourbon for crap sakes. Dry counties make about as much sense as Fletcher's campaign against gambling.

[TransientAlum]

Yeah, dont argue about dry counties. Just noticed that the comments on his blog entry were turned off. They are still up for previous articles. Got a feeling someone knows a nerve has been hit that should not have been.

[bigjeep]

I assume your comment is a result of my moniker. Not at all since Dennis Weaver wasn't really handicapped. Had he made fun of someone with a legit disabilty, I would have felt pity for Glazer.

I`d hope a brick didn`t hit you in the head to make you realize it was a joke...ofcourse, if your defending Glazer I hope your wearing a hard hat...

[UedK]

me too..slap him upside the head

I'd love to see a couple of our beautiful Widcat Nation ladies smack this guy around, but of course him being from the land of the wierd Jersey or wherever he'd probably be into getting smacked around.

[TransientAlum]

Comments are back and they are ugly.

[Brian McCat]

How do I say this gracefully and without half of Kentucky wanting to hang me by my you know whats? Let's be honest, parts of Kentucky don't exactly have a reputation for hording the members of MENSA or the contestants for the National Spelling Bee.

hahaha, this moron is complaining about the intelligence of Kentuckians, and he can´t spell hoarding correctly! :big_grin::big_grin::big_grin:

[BigBlueAces]

I'm shocked that some of my fellow Kentuckians aren't incensed by this article. It is an extremely prejudicial article and FOX should absolutely do something about it. It is chock full of inaccuracies, and if Glazer is "exaggerating" the truth in this awful piece, then he needs to come clean on it. If I was the owner of The Pub, I would be having a fit right now. I'm in the restaurant business and I would strongly doubt that any Manager would state that the cops would come in and take beer right out of a guest's hands. The City of Georgetown should be ticked off that he states he couldn't get a beer there!! Can't you dine in Applebee's/O'Charley's and enjoy a beer or cocktail?? I think you can..... This guy's awful article is just one example of how journalism in this country has gone to @#$%.......

[BigBlue75]

"Well, I hope Mr. GLazer will remember...

A SOUTHERN MAN DON'T NEED HIM AROUND, ANYHOW!!!:mad: "

[Mark Blueblood]

"Well, I hope Mr. GLazer will remember...

A SOUTHERN MAN DON'T NEED HIM AROUND, ANYHOW!!!:mad: "

Exactly. I went to UK with a couple guys from New Jersey that whined and complained constantly about Kentucky. I asked them what they were doing here and why didn't they go back to New Jersey if it was so great.

They could never answer the question.

[Coldstream]

Well, he's clearly trying to rip Kentuckians in a general manner, so in that case it probably is a big deal if you're a native Kentuckian.

Personally, I just think the whole piece is incredibly stupid. People are people; trying to come off as smarter, slicker, meaner just because you're from a certain spot in the world is truly deranged. New York City definitely doesn't have the market cornered on gravitas or pig-headedness (and clearly this guy sees himself as an overly aggressive betamale), and Georgetown, Kentucky most certainly doesn't have the market cornered on grammatical mistakes.

I just see this as more evidence of the long, sad plight of sports journalism in America. Some of these guys get paid to basically make their readers angry, and that's about all they're good at.

BINGO. I see this a lot up here in the Northeast as I work with a lot of New Yorkers and from the surrounding areas. Most are good people but there are a few that just have this need to puff out their chest, spew venom when things don't go their way or if they meet someone they just think they are better than. Glazer is no different and is a victim of himself. Like how I deal with these kind of people up here or anywhere esle.. just stand back and let Glazer keep digging that grave for himself.

[RCS]

The funny thing is, Georgetown isn't a dry county. They have beer and wine by the glass in restaurants. You can't buy it in a store, so I guess it is partially dry, but if the guy just wanted a drink, go get one. Also, taking one experience, which sounds like was his fault, and applying it to an entire state is just stupid and lazy. I won't respond to this guy just like I don't respond to the 5 year old repeating everything I say. Both are not worth your time.

[TrueblueCATfan]

I'm trying to figure out what this has to do with UK bb.

it doesn't..Some UL fan has already started a thread about it on the smack forum............

[Matt Dillon]

The funny thing is, Georgetown isn't a dry county. They have beer and wine by the glass in restaurants. You can't buy it in a store, so I guess it is partially dry, but if the guy just wanted a drink, go get one. Also, taking one experience, which sounds like was his fault, and applying it to an entire state is just stupid and lazy. I won't respond to this guy just like I don't respond to the 5 year old repeating everything I say. Both are not worth your time.

Exactly RCS. If Glazer's opinion meant anything to me, I might respond. Since it doesn't, why should I waste my time and energy. Besides, laughing at the hornet's nest he has stirred may be entertainment for him.

[Josh]

What I sent Fox Sports:

You know, there comes a time when a writer should worry more about the content of what he is writing rather than the response he will get from it. What Glazer wrote was nothing more than stereotypical nonsense, and had he made a racial comment, he would be blasted for it. But because he is talking about Kentucky, he gets a pass. The funny thing about his article was that it wasn't even remotely necessary. He just threw it in there to be a jerk. It wasn't funny, it wasn't true, and it wasn't good journalism. Searching for a reaction in the way Glazer tried to is not quality, it's sad, it's disgusting, and it's juvenile.

And before he bashes the grammar of a particular group of people, maybe he should try reading over his article and correcting his punctuational mistakes.

It is a shame that a great organization such as Fox Sports would allow this to go on their website. I will never think the same about Jay Glazer or Fox Sports. I wasn't aware that losing readers was what you were going for. I guess I was wrong.

Eh, like it will make a difference. Oh well, it was worth it.

[poodoo]

I just see this as more evidence of the long, sad plight of sports journalism in America. Some of these guys get paid to basically make their readers angry, and that's about all they're good at.

Well-said, Will. Also, the piece is absolutely ridiculous and not even worth a comment.

FWIW, Dick Gabriel just suggested on his WLAP show for us not to e-mail the fellow, as it would just make him happier that he's getting the attention. He also noted that e-mailing Fox Sports would simply mean his possibly getting a raise for getting so much attention as a writer and that the e-mails would NOT result in Glazer's being fired. Gabriel's advice was to IGNORE IT. Gabriel's advice made me think back to my dear mother, who always taught me simply to IGNORE IGNORANCE.

I myself am not making any suggestions. It's each person's right to decide what he or she wants to do, as I see it. In addition, I thought Josh's e-mail to Fox Sports was EXCELLENT.

Thinking back, though, I remember how some here suggested I e-mail Rick Bozich one of my posts. My reaction had been that I would simply be wasting my time. I have never e-mailed Rick Bozich. I likewise have never bothered to e-mail his bosses complaining about his work. In contrast, I HAVE e-mailed folks I have thought might read and seriously consider the points I was making.

In fact, I (along with Mel and many others) did e-mail the LHL about some of the extreme and unfair negativity toward the UK football program from one of the writers in Coach Brooks' early years (while any positives were ignored). I won't bother to do so again, FWIW, and I remember Mel saying essentially the same. It was WASTED time. Then again, I don't think there's a need for that right now, and will hopefully NEVER be needed again. :) GO CATS! GO RICH!

[Dr. H Lecter]

He's getting what he wants from us. A rise. He can go to his boss and brag about all the emails and comments he received.

The best thing to do is to ignore him.

The funny thing however is that he spelled hoarding incorrectly after making a comment about MENSA. You couldn't make something that rich up.

As for the Wal-Mart sign, it was written in a way that all of Wal-marts customers who are illegal aliens from Mexico could understand it. Thats called serving your customers.

[Mino859]

If one would like to contact Jay Glazer about him being a prejudiced bigot , please email him at jayglazer@foxsports.com.

[WildcatRick]

So of course (and understandably), many Kentuckians have been upset about Glazer and his comments because it reinforces stereotypes of Kentucky that a lot of folks dont like. Glazer's use of the word "hillbilly" and "goober" to describe Kentuckians has made many people so mad that they are engaging in letter writing campaigns to get Glazer fired. Heck, one Lexington TV station even did a story tonight on the whole affair and the furor that a "national journalist" (although I question whether either word applies to Glazer) had caused in the area.

While I understand all the furor and the fact that many are upset, I have an even more basic question, who the heck is Jay Glazer to talk about anything? The internet has brought about a whole world of supposed journalists (like myself) whose qualifications to opine on sports can be as bare as the groupie list for Bruce Pearl. These people need to have no actual writing ability (JD Salinger Glazer is not), good looks (think Bill Goldberg pre-steroids) or discernable talent/connection to the field (well Glazer did go to Pace University, where I am sure he encountered many Mensa members and Spelling Bee champions). Yet the mere fact they have an audience means that what they say is often deemed important. Well I am here to say that at least in the case of Jay Glazer, it is most certainly not.

Lets be real here for a second. Jay Glazer epitomizes the worst kind of person that one has to deal with when from Kentucky. Born and raised in New York, he possesses not only Northeastern entitlement syndrome but also its terrible corrolary, the "I am so cute and clever disease." You know these guys and if you attended Duke as I did, you know them in bunches. They are neither as smart as they believe, as funny as they think they are (usually when obnoxiously yelling in their Mets or Yankees jersey) or as worldly as aggressive as they like to portray (bring that attitude to Leslie County and see what happens to you Jay). They look down on those from places like Kentucky, even though the people who they belittle are substantially nicer, more genuine and a hell of a lot more interesting than they will ever be. Instead they mock, go home and laugh heartily at the uncultured masses. It is these people whose mere presence makes me nauseous and who are a primary reason I moved back to the Bluegrass state.

So Kentuckians, dont get mad and angry and spew out emails. Instead do something that even a mediocre intellect and talent like Glazer can understand…..mock him right back. For even though he has a hot wife (unbelievably) Jay Glazer's ability makes Andy Katz look like Red Smith (look him up when you get a chance Jay, you might learn something). He will forever be the guy who stands on the sideline and tells us that Joseph Addai may have a ripped toenail and that our fantasy team would be better if we sit Joey Harrington this week. As the old saying goes, even a blind squirrel finds a nut (his story about Wendys is funny), but at the end of the day, Glazer will always be the sports reporters version of Tony Danza…..a guy relevant only to the extent he can be mocked. Rather than take out your anger on a no-talent like Glazer (who in five years will be replaced with a young hot woman who can do his job cheaper and with better looks) and read Tom Wolfe's "Last American Hero" about his visit to the south to see Junior Johnson race in the 60s…..well do that and take that picture of Katz off your dartboard and replace it with Glazer…..he deserves it more anyways.

http://blog.kentuckysportsradio.com/?p=3289

[Coldstream]

Fox Sports pulls Glazer article Kentucky Sports Radio:
While not making an official statement about the matter, it looks as if Fox Sports has pulled Jay Glazer's article ripping the state of Kentucky. It is no longer on the website and links to the piece come up empty. Glazer takes another shot at Kentucky in his newest article (although more in [...]

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[poodoo]

He's getting what he wants from us. A rise. He can go to his boss and brag about all the emails and comments he received.

The best thing to do is to ignore him.

The funny thing however is that he spelled hoarding incorrectly after making a comment about MENSA. You couldn't make something that rich up.

Lecter, I hope you see this post. Ironically, your post was being written essentially the same time as mine. I had posted Dick Gabriel's advice, which matches yours, along with my beloved mother's advice to IGNORE IGNORANCE. :) I just thought THAT was a "funny thing," too. :big_grin: GO CATS! GO RICH!

[CoquieKat]

Oh well--if the choice came down to being a hillbilly or being like Glazer...give me hillbilly any day! ;)

[TransientAlum]

Too bad it couldn't have been reported for what it was in the National Press but glad it was pulled at least Fox Sports is acknowledging how truly ugly the article was.