View Full Version : Question for Ark. Fans
Brian McCat
09-18-2007, 04:00 PM
You guys had a pretty turbulent offseason. Have the repercussions pretty much settled down, or are there still rumblings in Fayetteville?
RBLtoHOG
09-18-2007, 04:18 PM
If your talking about what was going on with our head coach, It won't be over until he is gone. I do however think it has calmed down enough to where our team can concentrate on football and not all the other drama.
davidson287
09-18-2007, 04:26 PM
Rbl is right as long as Nutt is here there will be rumbles..but it has calmed down quite a bit...now if we lose Sat...
King-Tusk
09-18-2007, 04:33 PM
The hardcore fans who went digging into his personal life are still upset, but out of options at this point. If we lose many more games, the # of hits will increase on firehoustonnutt.com.
WildcatRick
09-18-2007, 04:40 PM
Were any of you guys up here for the 7 OT game? I met some of the classiest and most knowledgeable fans I had ever encountered from an opponent.
davidson287
09-18-2007, 04:45 PM
I wasn't...wish I was we were still in the military at the time ...it was PAC10 for us :icon_frown:.. Thanks for the compliment though we have some good fans as I think all of the SEC does..
of course everyone has those that you wish you could shove into the nearest trash can too
RBLtoHOG
09-18-2007, 04:51 PM
I was sitting at home trying to keep my heart from beating out of my chest
lighthouse
09-18-2007, 05:31 PM
I sat with some great Ark. fans at the SEC basketball tourney, but after 250 Woo-pig-sooie's, it sure made me glad I was a UK fan. :eek: :icon_lol: :icon_lol:
I. Melvin
09-18-2007, 05:35 PM
Somewhat OT, but the best sporting event I ever saw in person was the UK / Arkansas overtime thriller at the SEC Basketball Tournament. Between the two fanbases, we packed that oversized barn known as the Georgia Dome.
HogFaninGA
09-18-2007, 08:42 PM
You guys had a pretty turbulent offseason. Have the repercussions pretty much settled down, or are there still rumblings in Fayetteville?
I don't know why the others Hog fans on here are implying that things have cooled down since the start of the season, but from my vantage point it has gotten worse. I have a feeling our program will never be able to unite the fanbase until Houston Nutt is fired or quits. He has done so much damage to our program that it doesn't matter about wins or losses anymore.
I can give you reason after reason as to why things have turned for the worse for our program, but it would take up so much space that your admins might ban my post. It is that long. Visit my site if you want to learn about our Nutt.
HogFaninGA
09-18-2007, 08:43 PM
The site is www.Razorbacktalk.com (http://www.Razorbacktalk.com).
HogFaninGA
09-18-2007, 08:46 PM
The hardcore fans who went digging into his personal life are still upset, but out of options at this point. If we lose many more games, the # of hits will increase on firehoustonnutt.com.
It goes deeper than that and you know it. Lets don't be disingenious to these people. It goes way deeper than his personal life.
HogSTJunkie
09-18-2007, 09:51 PM
Nutt S**ks in my opinion, and I'll always continue to hate him
HogFaninGA
09-18-2007, 10:20 PM
Nutt S**ks in my opinion, and I'll always continue to hate him
I agree and numerous players feel the sameway.
Visit razorbacktalk.com for the latest injury reports and news on Hog football and other topics.
HogSTJunkie
09-18-2007, 10:24 PM
I never get tired of seeing this pic:icon_smile:
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1067/1405168966_7b5dd34a76_o.jpg
THROWITDEEP
09-19-2007, 02:21 AM
I'm personally not a NUTT fan myself and I think he should have left last year, but we have him back and that's that. He will not be there forever and will probably leave after this year. :thumbup:
Brian McCat
09-19-2007, 02:25 AM
That day, I thought that the NCAA would re-visit the overtime rules because of the length of that game. Talk about an unbelievable 5 hours.
I never get tired of seeing this pic:icon_smile:
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1067/1405168966_7b5dd34a76_o.jpg
THROWITDEEP
09-19-2007, 02:32 AM
That day, I thought that the NCAA would re-visit the overtime rules because of the length of that game. Talk about an unbelievable 5 hours.
I don't think they ever saw it going that far Brian. Our game this weekend could see some OT.
UK78ALUM
09-19-2007, 05:08 AM
of course everyone has those that you wish you could shove into the nearest trash can too
Yes indeed, and shove their (expletive, expletive, expletive) cowbells right in there on top of 'em as well !!! ;)
cnice11
09-19-2007, 07:59 AM
I sat with some great Ark. fans at the SEC basketball tourney, but after 250 Woo-pig-sooie's, it sure made me glad I was a UK fan. :eek: :icon_lol: :icon_lol:
i went to the SEC basketball tourney about three years ago, and the met some Arkansas fans and they were some of the nicest people i had ever been around. The only thing that bothered me about them was Pig suey cheer
davidson287
09-19-2007, 12:35 PM
:icon_mrgreen: you will never hear anything like the hog call ...I guess if I was a fan of another school it might be annoying...but alas I am a hog fan and that is what we grow up hearing...
As to the debate of Houston Nutt I bow out..I am not a Nutt fan but the season is here and that is all I care about. I draw the line at personal..anything coaching wise is fair game ..
and who ever said dump the blanky blank cow bells I agree!!
leroybyrd
09-19-2007, 04:15 PM
Personal life aside, how can you hate a coach so much that:
1) Won the West last year
2) Had you in the SEC Championship game
3) Had you in the mix for a National title late in the season?
You guys (Arkansas) had a phenomenal season last year and you say he has damaged the program beyond repair? I don't get it. It's not like you are a perrenial power. It seemed to me that Mustain and company needed to shut up and play. From afar, the whole situation seemed like such a joke, here you are putting together a championship type season and several guys are having secret meeting, going over the coach's head about playing time, etc?
I would love to hear the other side.
HogFaninGA
09-19-2007, 10:12 PM
Personal life aside, how can you hate a coach so much that:
1) Won the West last year
2) Had you in the SEC Championship game
3) Had you in the mix for a National title late in the season?
You guys (Arkansas) had a phenomenal season last year and you say he has damaged the program beyond repair? I don't get it. It's not like you are a perrenial power. It seemed to me that Mustain and company needed to shut up and play. From afar, the whole situation seemed like such a joke, here you are putting together a championship type season and several guys are having secret meeting, going over the coach's head about playing time, etc?
I would love to hear the other side.
With all due respect, your post clearly shows that you have no idea what you are talking about. I don't have the time or patience to go over it, but what Nutt did would not be tolerated at any other school. If you knew how the politics are played in AR you might have a better understanding how Nutt survived this past year. If you truly have any desire to learn the truth about all of this then visit razorbacktalk.com.. You will learn why many people are upset.
BTW, while we won 10 games last year, we lost the last 4 out of 5. The 2 years prior to last year, Nutt had 2 back to back losing seasons even after being the HC for so long with mediocre result (his bowl record is dismal to say the least).
AR is a football school and we have higher expectations than say Vandy or UK. Mediocrity isn't or shouldn't be accepted, but what made people more upset with Nutt was his lack of morals and integrity.
Good luck Sat..
leroybyrd
09-19-2007, 11:03 PM
With all due respect, your post clearly shows that you have no idea what you are talking about. I don't have the time or patience to go over it, but what Nutt did would not be tolerated at any other school. If you knew how the politics are played in AR you might have a better understanding how Nutt survived this past year. If you truly have any desire to learn the truth about all of this then visit razorbacktalk.com.. You will learn why many people are upset.
BTW, while we won 10 games last year, we lost the last 4 out of 5. The 2 years prior to last year, Nutt had 2 back to back losing seasons even after being the HC for so long with mediocre result (his bowl record is dismal to say the least).
AR is a football school and we have higher expectations than say Vandy or UK. Mediocrity is or shouldn't be accepted, but what made people more upset with Nutt was his lack of morals and integrity.
Good luck Sat..
I keep hearing from UA fans that people don't know what they are talking about and they should go to razorbacktalk.com and that theydon't have time to explain it here, etc, etc, blah, blah, blah.
Yeah, I'm a UK fan, I don't know the details so explain it here. You're on this site, go ahead and tell us the deal. From several hours away and from your post, it looks you have ridiculous expectations that should not be that much different than UK or Vandy because you haven't won anything in a long time and you are trying to run off a coach that put the best team on the field that he had and won the SEC West, got to the Championship game and got you into the National Title conversation. It just doesn't make sense, unless there is something we don't know, so tell us.
Again, you are Arkansas. You are not Oklahoma, Texas, Fla. St., Nebraska, Ohio State, Michigan, etc. You are getting to bowl games and most recently won the West and had national title hopes. Not only that, you have the likely Heisman trophy winner and another potential candidate in Jones. Seems Nutt has brought your program back to heights it hasn't seen in what 30-35 years.
Tell me where I am wrong. I am always willing to learn.
HogFaninGA
09-19-2007, 11:14 PM
I keep hearing from UA fans that people don't know what they are talking about and they should go to razorbacktalk.com and that theydon't have time to explain it here, etc, etc, blah, blah, blah.
Yeah, I'm a UK fan, I don't know the details so explain it here. You're on this site, go ahead and tell us the deal. From several hours away and from your post, it looks you have ridiculous expectations that should not be that much different than UK or Vandy because you haven't won anything in a long time and you are trying to run off a coach that put the best team on the field that he had and won the SEC West, got to the Championship game and got you into the National Title conversation. It just doesn't make sense, unless there is something we don't know, so tell us.
Again, you are Arkansas. You are not Oklahoma, Texas, Fla. St., Nebraska, Ohio State, Michigan, etc. You are getting to bowl games and most recently won the West and had national title hopes. Not only that, you have the likely Heisman trophy winner and another potential candidate in Jones. Seems Nutt has brought your program back to heights it hasn't seen in what 30-35 years.
Tell me where I am wrong. I am always willing to learn.
Like I said I don't have the time or patience. Tell you what. Lets trade coaches. You can have HDN and the baggage that comes with him and we will take your coach.
The point of my original response to you was that I wouldn't make rash judgements on a issue I don't know anything about. To do so, well---nevermind.
Keep believing what you want. It doesn't matter. I predict the better coach will win Saturday, not the better team. You guys will win because of our lack of coaching and the fact that HDN has NEVER in the last 9 years ever won a SEC game following a SEC loss. History will repeat itself Sat. against a team we should beat.
I always find it funny whenever I talk to people from other SEC schools they tell me what a wonderful coach ole Nutt is, but when I ask them if they would trade coaches they always say hell NO. Wonder why that is?
leroybyrd
09-19-2007, 11:39 PM
Like I said I don't have the time or patience. Tell you what. Lets trade coaches. You can have HDN and the baggage that comes with him and we will take your coach.
The point of my original response to you was that I wouldn't make rash judgements on a issue I don't know anything about. To do so, well---nevermind.
Keep believing what you want. It doesn't matter. I predict the better coach will win Saturday, not the better team. You guys will win because of our lack of coaching and the fact that HDN has NEVER in the last 9 years ever won a SEC game following a SEC loss. History will repeat itself Sat. against a team we should beat.
I always find it funny whenever I talk to people from other SEC schools they tell me what a wonderful coach ole Nutt is, but when I ask them if they would trade coaches they always say hell NO. Wonder why that is?
I still haven't heard you back up what you are trying to say, just hiding behind "you don't know what you are talking about, so don't speak on it." So I'll drop it because you obviously won't go there.
Why do you think you should beat UK? What aspect of the game do you do better? Maybe the running game, I'll give you, but what else? I believe we are the better coached team, but we are aslo the better team right now. That seems pretty clear to everyone except Arkansas fan. But really, considering the two teams on the field, what are you better at? See if you break it down we are better at D-Line, Linebackers, DB's, receivers and QB. I'll give you O-line and RB's. Depth--equal at this point, coaching, Uk is better. So just how do you say you should beat us but won't only because of coaching?
Again, I think your expectations are ridiculous.
johnkyblue
09-19-2007, 11:44 PM
I'm curious now... what's the baggage?
Brian McCat
09-20-2007, 12:41 AM
The point of my original response to you was that I wouldn't make rash judgements on a issue I don't know anything about.
I always find it funny whenever I talk to people from other SEC schools they tell me what a wonderful coach ole Nutt is, but when I ask them if they would trade coaches they always say hell NO. Wonder why that is?
I think youīre over-reacting a bit. A genuine question was asked, and you snapped his head off. Evidently, you donīt have much love for your coach, and thatīs fine. If you canīt answer the question without attacking the poster, then....donīt! ;)
I do recognize that Arkansas has played on the national scene in years past, but much of that time, you were still in the old SWC, which is off the radar screen for us.
UK78ALUM
09-20-2007, 06:03 AM
With all due respect, your post clearly shows that you have no idea what you are talking about. I don't have the time or patience to go over it,
Then why are you here? If you are that time constrained and impatient, clearly your time would be better spent on more important projects.
AR is a football school and we have higher expectations than say Vandy or UK.
Higher expectations? Oh please, AR is a former member of the most corrupt "football schools" ever assembled, the former SWC. Whether or not AR was proven to be involved, or even implicated, the fact is that those "football schools" caused an entire conference to disintegrate. UK has certainly had its share of problems and probation, but I agree with you here - we're not in your (former) league.
BowlingGreenUKGrad
09-20-2007, 09:21 AM
Is it just me, or do some of y'all find the similarities between the Nutt situation at Arkansas and the Tubby Smith situation here kinda striking?
LuckyRazor
09-20-2007, 09:33 AM
Like I said I don't have the time or patience. Tell you what. Lets trade coaches. You can have HDN and the baggage that comes with him and we will take your coach.
The point of my original response to you was that I wouldn't make rash judgements on a issue I don't know anything about. To do so, well---nevermind.
Keep believing what you want. It doesn't matter. I predict the better coach will win Saturday, not the better team. You guys will win because of our lack of coaching and the fact that HDN has NEVER in the last 9 years ever won a SEC game following a SEC loss. History will repeat itself Sat. against a team we should beat.
I always find it funny whenever I talk to people from other SEC schools they tell me what a wonderful coach ole Nutt is, but when I ask them if they would trade coaches they always say hell NO. Wonder why that is?
Who are you... geesh...
Sometimes people get stuck on one thing and can't get pass it... HDN has done a lot for our football program and I really don't think anyone can sit back and say he hasn't ... his personal life is his personal life... now if you want to grip about his coaching then grip.. but can you do it without bringing up his personal life... and over on someone else's board too...maybe you should just keep all the bashing of the coach on your board and not someone elses...
Ok sorry had to get that out....
Brian McCat
09-20-2007, 10:16 AM
Ok sorry had to get that out....
Works for me.
:icon_smile:
HogFaninGA
09-20-2007, 10:20 AM
Who are you... geesh...
Sometimes people get stuck on one thing and can't get pass it... HDN has done a lot for our football program and I really don't think anyone can sit back and say he hasn't ... his personal life is his personal life... now if you want to grip about his coaching then grip.. but can you do it without bringing up his personal life... and over on someone else's board too...maybe you should just keep all the bashing of the coach on your board and not someone elses...
Ok sorry had to get that out....
Get past it? Complaining about HDN on someone elses board? I was answering a question that was asked by someone on this board. The question in and of itself was to broad to answer and would of taken wayyyyyyyy too much time. If the original poster is genuinely interested in the answer then I suggest he visit my Hog site or another Hog site(one that has posters and doesn't go around spamming other board's members without permission) to get the answer.
As far as HDN personal life. What I'm referring to has NOTHING to do with his personal life (eventhough there is plenty of stuff there), but everything to do with the program (players, staff, donations). Please don't assume what others are thinking if you don't know them.
OK sorry had to get that out.....
leroybyrd
09-20-2007, 11:22 AM
Get past it? Complaining about HDN on someone elses board? I was answering a question that was asked my someone on this board. The question in and of itself was to broad to answer and would of taken wayyyyyyyy too much time. If the original poster is genuinely interested in the answer then I suggest him to visit my Hog site or another Hog site(one that has posters and doesn't go around spamming other board's members without permission) to get the answer.
As far as HDN personal life. What I'm referring to has NOTHING to do with his personal life (eventhough there is plenty of stuff there), but everything to do with the program (players, staff, donations). Please don't assume what others are thinking if you don't know them.
OK sorry had to get that out.....
But you still haven't answered the question. I think you are a Mustain/Springdale 6 or 8 (or whatever it was) homer and you can't get past that whole situation.
HogFaninGA
09-20-2007, 11:35 AM
But you still haven't answered the question. I think you are a Mustain/Springdale 6 or 8 (or whatever it was) homer and you can't get past that whole situation.
You sure you are not a Hog and/or HDN fan? I'm reading between the lines here, but it seems you know more than you are willing to say. Most of this stuff has nothing to do with the Springdale players. Oh well, doesn't matter. I done talking about it. If you want to learn more you know where to go.
I want to wish you guys the best of luck on Sat.. I'm looking forward to seeing UK's explosive offense.
If any of your guys/gals are going to the game in AR, please stop by our tailgate. It will be at "The Gardens" which is right beside Bud Walton (Basketball arena). We will have a big banner that says Razorbacktalk.com. Free food and drink.
Take care.
johnkyblue
09-21-2007, 02:58 PM
The question in and of itself was to broad to answer and would of taken wayyyyyyyy too much time. If the original poster is genuinely interested in the answer then I suggest he visit my Hog site or another Hog site(one that has posters and doesn't go around spamming other board's members without permission) to get the answer.
Please take the time, because as it stands, Oscam's razor has Houston Nutt rated fairly highly in my mind. Your suggestion, to look around the other board, is way too much work for me. You brought it up, you should deliver. If you don't, that's cool, but Nutt will still be rated fairly high in my mind. If the Arkansas fan base rids themselves of him, I will have to look at them funny.
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