Go To EBay And Look At Some Of Those Bids

[ukfanman]

Go to EBay and look at the way those things are being bidded up.

Insane!!!!!!!!!

[jkeller]

What does it say about a person who has waited in line forever to get tickets just to turn around and sell them?

[matt colvin]

says they shouldn't have gotten those tickets.

can anything be done about that?

[jkeller]

We should turn them in. It should definitely be a crime to sell things you got for free for $400.

[matt colvin]

I know, is there any way to do that?

[jkeller]

I don't know

[Radiated]

No way to do anything about it. Happens alal the time on ebay. That is the way of the beast.

Talking about camping out for them: Playstation 3, WII, anything people want and anticipate will show up on ebay as oon a they are available.

This world is about making money, and this is what people do.

[Catligula]

There is something you can do - Don't bid on them!!! And tell everyone else you know that got hosed this morning not to bid.

[flacat22]

that sucks but hey we had a former player hock his championship ring on Ebay too...like the previous poster said its all about the almighty dollar. Id be concerned about the ticket's authenticity.:icon_mad:

[CatsFan4Evr]

You can guarantee that those of us that camped out in WildcatRick's group are not selling ours online. These people are some of the most faithful fans on the planet. If I had extras, I'd give them away for free.

[crs]

i've always understood the law to be you cant sell tickets for more than face value. thats illegal. thats the definition of scalping.

[Radiated]

i've always understood the law to be you cant sell tickets for more than face value. thats illegal. thats the definition of scalping.

I don' think scalping is illegal online and I don't think there is anything that could be done about it.

[Cory]

i've always understood the law to be you cant sell tickets for more than face value. thats illegal. thats the definition of scalping.

I thought that was only within two blocks of Rupp or something...

Cory

[PJ]

"#Act 436, 155-Scalping of sports tickets. Any person who sells a ticket to any sporting event at a price in excess of the price appearing on the ticket shall be fined not less than fifty dollars nor more than one hundred dollars."


So pretty much what they're doing is illegal. I couldn't sell them knowing that my blue brothers aren't going, I might be giving mine away...

[EricBigNally]

As far as the "what can we do" thing, I'm not sure if there is any legal action that can be taken. I know I've looked at tickets to UK basketball games before and they usually have some kind of cap that EBAY issues to the tickets based on the face value. obviously, its ridiculously higher than face value but I know that there is an actual difference depending on the value of the tickets. I dont know what you can be done about selling a ticket that was free (minus the minor handling fee things). Either way, I couldn't do it in good conscience. I have my 4 tickets and believe me if any of the people that already plan to go with me abck out for whatever reason, the notice will go here to those people that are just like me. I couldn't imagine asking $300 for something I got for $8. I guess I don't go after that "get rich quick" thing as nice as it would be. I'd rather keep myself the way I am and not have that $300..... just my 2 cents about those that are taking advantage of the many unfortunate kind folk out there...I was insanely lucky that I decided to try one last time before heading out to Commonwealth Stadium. Good luck guys on getting some seats without taking out another mortgage

[CatsFan4Evr]

As far as the "what can we do" thing, I'm not sure if there is any legal action that can be taken. I know I've looked at tickets to UK basketball games before and they usually have some kind of cap that EBAY issues to the tickets based on the face value. obviously, its ridiculously higher than face value but I know that there is an actual difference depending on the value of the tickets. I dont know what you can be done about selling a ticket that was free (minus the minor handling fee things). Either way, I couldn't do it in good conscience. I have my 4 tickets and believe me if any of the people that already plan to go with me abck out for whatever reason, the notice will go here to those people that are just like me. I couldn't imagine asking $300 for something I got for $8. I guess I don't go after that "get rich quick" thing as nice as it would be. I'd rather keep myself the way I am and not have that $300..... just my 2 cents about those that are taking advantage of the many unfortunate kind folk out there...I was insanely lucky that I decided to try one last time before heading out to Commonwealth Stadium. Good luck guys on getting some seats without taking out another mortgage

On eBay, I've noticed that typically the sellers will not "sell" the tickets- they get around the rules by selling a poster for a couple hundred bucks, and give you the tickets for "free".

[UKManGillispieFan71]

Ast the old saying goes "something is only worth what someone else is willing to pay for it". Anyone that knows me well would be shocked to hear I was out of bed at 6:30 on a Saturday morning. (Until I told them it was for UK Tickets.) I was furious, and sat there until about 7:40 trying to get the damn thing to work. With that being said, I will probably purchase a couple of seats off E-bay if I can get them for less than an obscene price. They would not be available if people were not willing to pay for them. Welcome to the good old USA. (What they are doing is not any different than scalping regular season single game tickets.) However, I would love for UK to track down the owners of the Season Ticket books for sell on E-bay. Anyone scalping season tickets deserves to have their rights to those seats revoked.

[EricBigNally]

On eBay, I've noticed that typically the sellers will not "sell" the tickets- they get around the rules by selling a poster for a couple hundred bucks, and give you the tickets for "free".

I had not realized that. When I first read this post I went to ebay and just did a search and looked at a few prices and decided I didn't want to look anymore... When I read your post, I went back and opened up a couple of them. I guess that's how they can by with it....interesting. Simple and it gets them what they want. Now just imagine if people would apply themselves differently. The world would certainly be different. Thanks for pointing that out.

[JayB]

One of the auctions I saw was a scam... It said you are bidding on a small rubber band wrapped around 4 tickets lower arena.. You can take that quite literally. Ive seen it a million times. YOUR BIDDING ON A SMALL RUBBER BAND. That and many other scams can be found on ebay. Ive seen tons of court cases where people were selling a picture of an ipod for 300$ lol how these people sleep at night beats me.

[she~cat]

I dont know any thing about E-bay but it seems to me that something that was meant to be free (BBM tickets)...it should be illegal to sell them...IMO


Oh - I think I just read where they were not free?...my mistake

[CyberCat]

You can guarantee that those of us that camped out in WildcatRick's group are not selling ours online. These people are some of the most faithful fans on the planet. If I had extras, I'd give them away for free.

I second this.

[UKMustang]

You can guarantee the group with the UkMustang will not be selling any of our tickets. We were next in line with WildcatRick's group and we know their group were not the ones selling the tickets on Ebay either. I think people that were there getting tickets just to sell on Ebay are not true Wildcat fans. I think the true Wildcat fans should be there to help each other, not try to screw each other by making money off of other Wildcat fans because the tickets were Free. I just want everybody to know we weren't the ones selling the lower level tickets.

[BlueHatWildcat]

ok i'll admit it i'm selling mine. I'm a very broke college student and I need the money. I don't call putting hundreds of miles on my car, missing 2 days of work, and eating out 6 times free. I even offered my tickets to two people on WildcatNation. One accepted and his will be mailed FREE to him tommorow and the other said to give them away if someone else wanted them.

[Rockober]

ok i'll admit it i'm selling mine. I'm a very broke college student and I need the money. I don't call putting hundreds of miles on my car, missing 2 days of work, and eating out 6 times free. I even offered my tickets to two people on WildcatNation. One accepted and his will be mailed FREE to him tommorow and the other said to give them away if someone else wanted them.

Please post in the tickets section if you are needing or selling tickets. Also, remember that all tickets to be offered on this site should be sold at face value.

[POEKLM]

I was standing in line right next to a scalper. He was trying his best to get some of my tickets. I saw him on the corner outside of Commonwealth doing his thing before the football game.

[chworld22]

I would be willing to bet that there are two types of people that are selling those tickets on ebay. One type are the students that got the tickets so they can make some extra money on there. The other are professional ticket scalpers/brokers that do it for a living.

[BlueHatWildcat]

just to clarify i am using my tickets and have given my tickets to everyone who asked for them. i am selling some extras and giving more away.

[she~cat]

sounds like they need to put a limit on how many you can get..(that is if they dont already)..I dont know....but i am not willing to pay for something that I could have gotten for free.:mad:...but hey thats just me.

[chworld22]

sounds like they need to put a limit on how many you can get..(that is if they dont already)..I dont know....but i am not willing to pay for something that I could have gotten for free.:mad:...but hey thats just me.

I think the limit if four per id but if you have a few people go up there together with the plan of selling them all and they all get 4 then they would go quick as they did. I think they should set the limit at 2 that would take it down alot. But people with families would have to have more people go with them which would suck for them but it would help the real fans get tickets.

[she~cat]

I think the limit if four per id but if you have a few people go up there together with the plan of selling them all and they all get 4 then they would go quick as they did. I think they should set the limit at 2 that would take it down alot. But people with families would have to have more people go with them which would suck for them but it would help the real fans get tickets.


I agree...lower the limit.....We are driving in that week-end any way to go to the football game...and had planned on BBM as well...but I guess that just aint gonna work out.

[chworld22]

I agree...lower the limit.....We are driving in that week-end any way to go to the football game...and had planned on BBM as well...but I guess that just aint gonna work out.

I talked to ticketmaster and they said that they were planning on releasing some more tickets before the event to check back later.

[matt colvin]

I talked to ticketmaster and they said that they were planning on releasing some more tickets before the event to check back later.

:mad: Oh so they magically found some more tickets?

Can you please let us know when that happens?

[chworld22]

:mad: Oh so they magically found some more tickets?

Can you please let us know when that happens?

Yea I plan on trying it every other day until the day of and if one of the days they find the extra ones then I will post it on here and send you a PM

[matt colvin]

I sure appreciate it :thumbup:

[she~cat]

me too...thanks!:)

[Doug Hardin]

Yes, it's illegal in Kentucky. Someone quoted the KRS above.

But it goes on all the time for a number of reasons. First, it's not illegal in every state. I think it's legal in Ohio and Indiana, so if someone were to get their hands on some tickets and take them back to one of those states and sell them, it wouldn't be a crime.

Second, enforcement against online scalpers is very difficult and not really worth the trouble. A prosecutor could determine the physical location of a scalper by tracking down IP numbers and such, but to do so would be a bit of hassle. The KRS says that violation of the scalping statute is a "violation," so it's treated like a speeding ticket (i.e., less than a misdemeanor). Sometimes cops will crack down on the on-site scalpers (the backwards hat guy at the stadium with dozens of tickets in one hand and an "I Need Tickets" sign in the other), but that's about it.

I had my own dilemma Saturday morning when I finally got some tickets. My girlfriend (an Indiana resident) wanted to get on my computer and order 4 tickets to scalp. I told her that it was illegal and that I didn't want to her to do it b/c there are good UK fans that want to go and shouldn't have to pay $100 a ticket. She reminded me (1) that it wasn't illegal because she lives in Indiana and (2) that I had sold my U of L student football tickets on StubHub.com last year for considerably more than face value, then got about as mad as I've ever seen her get when my best defense was, "Yeah, but that's different because . . . um . . . well, because . . . ummm . . . I don't like Louisville or Louisville fans and don't mind charging them outrageous prices, but it would be wrong to do that to fellow fans." By the time I saw that I was in a no-win situation and let her use my computer for such illegalities, the best seats available were in the nosebleed section, so she gave up.

[Bluesong]

Another option that may help is, if you scroll all the way to the bottom of the eBay page, there is a link where you can report that item. If it's illegle, eBay may pull the ad or even delete the account.

I have seen them do it before when key words were put in the ad topic to generate more hits. For example, selling a rubber band...you are not allowed to put UK tickets in the title to generate hits when someone does a search.

[Bluesong]

I reported on one this morning. This was eBay's response:

We will thoroughly review the listing(s) or Want It Now post(s) you have reported for violations of our Search Manipulation guidelines. We often rely on members like you to bring these violations to our attention. We base our decisions for this offense on a review of the content of the item description and/or item title.

In item descriptions, we search for unrelated keywords that appear to have been included to manipulate eBay's search engines. These lists of keywords may be hidden in drop-down boxes, reduced to small fonts or typed in a font that matches the listing's background color ("white on white" for example).

In item titles, we look for unrelated keywords, unnecessary comparisons, brand name misuse and other language that may be misleading. In light of our privacy policy, we cannot share any action taken by eBay with respect to this listing or post. If we determine that the listing or post violates eBay policy, we may: 1. Send the seller an informational alert; 2. Remove the listing or post; or 3. Suspend the seller.Account suspensions are usually reserved for those sellers that continuously disregard policy. For more information on Search Manipulation, please visit: http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/keyword-spam.html (http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/keyword-spam.html)

Thank you for your report. Regards, The eBay Community Watch Team

[crazzedcats22]

People are allowed to do whatever they want with the tickets. While I don't necessarily agree 100% with it, it's their right (as long as it's legal). If I were able to come across some extra tickets that I wasn't using I would do the exact same thing. There are multimillion dollar companies that's business is selling tickets. I don't see why people are getting so upset about it. They got online or camped out like everyone else did. What they do with the tickets is their business.

[she~cat]

I am upset because we made plans to drive 4 hours with kids to attend this event..the tickets were meant to be free so by someone ordering a bunch to make profit really hacks me off...and that is my right:mad:

[BOURBON TOWN CAT FAN]

People are allowed to do whatever they want with the tickets. While I don't necessarily agree 100% with it, it's their right (as long as it's legal). If I were able to come across some extra tickets that I wasn't using I would do the exact same thing. There are multimillion dollar companies that's business is selling tickets. I don't see why people are getting so upset about it. They got online or camped out like everyone else did. What they do with the tickets is their business.


This is America............and it's called capitalism.

[Wildcatcrazy11]

This is America............and it's called capitalism.

I have to agree here. Just because it isn't the "just" cause doesn't mean people are not going to partake in it. Some of these ebay sellers if not most of them did wait in line to get their tikets. I don't think it is fair to be selling sets of 4 tickets for 500 dollars but doesn't it speak to the enormity of our program? Not many other schools have fans that would actually pay 500 buccks for these tickets...

[m0fats]

but this is THE event for people who can't afford $500 tickets. The silver spooners have every other game to get great seats and watch great games, but BBM is for the diehards that can afford their time but not their finances.

"This is America" is a cop out, "This is Greed".

[she~cat]

but this is THE event for people who can't afford $500 tickets. The silver spooners have every other game to get great seats and watch great games, but BBM is for the diehards that can afford their time but not their finances.

"This is America" is a cop out, "This is Greed".


you hit the nail on the head...I was thinking it ...wanted to post it, but decided to sit on my hands....glad you pointed that out:thumbup:

[Cory]

but this is THE event for people who can't afford $500 tickets. The silver spooners have every other game to get great seats and watch great games, but BBM is for the diehards that can afford their time but not their finances.

"This is America" is a cop out, "This is Greed".

Like the others up there, I'm not sure why everyone's getting so upset about this. Who are we to judge someone who slept on the sidewalk for three days for 4 tickets to a scrimmage? I'd say they worked for them. (of course, this comes from someone who slept on the sidewalk for three days for 4 tickets to a scrimmage...)
I'm not saying it's legal, or right, but its their decision. I'd call anyone who camps out for three days, or pays $500 for 4 tickets to a scrimmage a "diehard".
Cory

[CyberCat]

but this is THE event for people who can't afford $500 tickets. The silver spooners have every other game to get great seats and watch great games, but BBM is for the diehards that can afford their time but not their finances.

"This is America" is a cop out, "This is Greed".

This statement represents exactly how I personally feel about it.

[she~cat]

well...there are those of us who dont live in the state of Ky and were unable to camp out for 3 days and "work" for our tickets but were confident that we could get tickets on-line:icon_rolleyes:

[WildcatRick]

Like the others up there, I'm not sure why everyone's getting so upset about this. Who are we to judge someone who slept on the sidewalk for three days for 4 tickets to a scrimmage? I'd say they worked for them. (of course, this comes from someone who slept on the sidewalk for three days for 4 tickets to a scrimmage...)
I'm not saying it's legal, or right, but its their decision. I'd call anyone who camps out for three days, or pays $500 for 4 tickets to a scrimmage a "diehard".
Cory

The tickets are free, but the students I saw damn sure earned them, IMO. I know of several people in line behind us that sold every ticket they got and will not even attend and I think that crap, but they aren't my tickets. Having said that I watched students go to class all day, study in front of their tents and sleep on the sidewalk for 3 or 4 nights. Those that kept two tickets and sold their other pair is fine by me. Some of those kids didn't have the money to buy food in line and are being hammered by people that wont go get in line and complain when they aren't given freebies.

For those that live out of the area I feel your pain, but I have done this for 20 straight years and never lived closer than Nashville. Are you upset the kids may make a few dollars or are you mad that someone that stood in line isnt giving you something for free that they had to sacrifice for? Some folks want something for nothing and their complaining does nothing but ruin this for the ones that do the right thing and do give their tickets away.

Some of you are casting an awfully wide net, IMO. If you need tickets so badly that you want to possibly get a student in trouble that is just trying to have some pocket money, then PM me and I will bust my butt the next few days and try to get you some seats. If you don't want tickets you just want to fight the good fight, find another crusade as there are much bigger tragedies in the world.

Just an FYI, I had over 25 PM's asking me for tickets, some people that had the same opportunity I did asked me for 4 tickets:eek:. I gave away every ticket, save one, to friends that I know needed the assistance, and I do that every year. There were scalpers down there waiting for people as they got out of line and I had the cops remove them from the area, but I knew they were scalpers and I see them every football and basketball game.

UK did try to add the voucher system to keep people from going through line twice, it just didnt work. There is little they can do about that outside of barcoding the backs of our hands with permanent ink.:thumbdn:

Like I said, PM me and I'll see what I can do, but if you dont at least try to get in line stop blaming the ones that do and complain about Ticketmaster. I also want to make it clear that I am not talking about everybody in this thread, some have legit complaints and I know those folks personally.

Good post, Cory.

[WildcatRick]

well...there are those of us who dont live in the state of Ky and were unable to camp out for 3 days and "work" for our tickets but were confident that we could get tickets on-line:icon_rolleyes:

It may not be work, but it is a sacrifice whether you like it or not. Your complaints should be with Ticketmaster and I am getting tired of seeing people that did sacrifice get hammered because the online ticket sales didnt work. I have come from out of state for 20 years to camp out, that was my choice, sorry it doesnt work out for you, I truly am.

You or Kev PM me and tell me what you need and I'll fix it, probably can do better than you could have done online anyway.

[she~cat]

It may not be work, but it is a sacrifice whether you like it or not. Your complaints should be with Ticketmaster and I am getting tired of seeing people that did sacrifice get hammered because the online ticket sales didnt work. I have come from out of state for 20 years to camp out, that was my choice, sorry it doesnt work out for you, I truly am.

You or Kev PM me and tell me what you need and I'll fix it, probably can do better than you could have done online anyway.


I appreciate that but, you miss my point...I'm upset that some ordered on-line and or camped out to get bunch of tickets that were supposed to be free to turn around and try to make a profit....thats what bugs me...the only way that I see to stop that is for the powers that be to start charging for the tickets to begin with....

[WildcatRick]

I appreciate that but, you miss my point...I'm upset that some ordered on-line and or camped out to get bunch of tickets that were supposed to be free to turn around and try to make a profit....thats what bugs me...the only way that I see to stop that is for the powers that be to start charging for the tickets to begin with....

I am not missing anything. I am sure I dislike scalpers as much as you do, I had the cops run off a couple at Memorial Saturday. My problem is everybody being lumped into one group. I explained that in my first post. You rolled your eyes and used "work", and I am here to tell you I saw kids that did sacrifice(work) and earned their 4 seats and I don't care what they do with their 2 extras.

Did you not get tickets because they ran out or because of Ticketmaster having tech problems? The voucher system made it very difficult for people to go through the line more than once. People that ended up with extra seats did it by bringing friends. I saw a lot of people that didn't arrive until Saturday cut line in front of people that had camped out all week. I also saw a lady and her daughter sneak in behind my group like it was owed to her and now every single ticket she got is on eBay for BIG dollars and she is a business owner. I just hate seeing some good kids that actually need some money being labeled as greedy and malicious when most only got their allotted 4 seats.

So, PM me.

[chworld22]

I am not missing anything. I am sure I dislike scalpers as much as you do, I had the cops run off a couple at Memorial Saturday. My problem is everybody being lumped into one group. I explained that in my first post. You rolled your eyes and used "work", and I am here to tell you I saw kids that did sacrifice(work) and earned their 4 seats and I don't care what they do with their 2 extras.

Did you not get tickets because they ran out or because of Ticketmaster having tech problems? The voucher system made it very difficult for people to go through the line more than once. People that ended up with extra seats did it by bringing friends. I saw a lot of people that didn't arrive until Saturday cut line in front of people that had camped out all week. I also saw a lady and her daughter sneak in behind my group like it was owed to her and now every single ticket she got is on eBay for BIG dollars and she is a business owner. I just hate seeing some good kids that actually need some money being labeled as greedy and malicious when most only got their allotted 4 seats.

So, PM me.

I understand the students selling them for sure I have been there and needed money as a student I understand that and if I could have gotten out of class to go I would have done the same probably. Heck I could have paid for my season tickets with those Madness tickets alone. The scalpers and like you said business owners that got in there to get the tickets simply to sell them are the ones that make me a little hot under the collar.

What happens are you get the stuff shirts down in the lower level like you do in a lot of those seats during the regular season and all they do is sit on their hands all game. I went to three regular season games last year and it was the same everytime the majority of the noise comes from the rafters (not all but most of the noise since there are great fans in every section). It just sucks that every UK fans that wants a ticket cant get one without having to resort to paying big money to a scalper or having to beg for some (thanks Rick). But that will be the same every year not every one that wants one is going to get it any year so there are going to be some pissed off people regardless of if they put it in Madison Square Garden.

[WildcatRick]

I do see everybody points. But I also see some folks that wont go get in line and don't try to get them on-line, yet they expect people that did sit out there for 4 days and nights to hand them over multiple tickets when they are only alloted 4 anyway. In the past I have had extra seats and always given them away to people that don't have the means to get them. But there are people that asked me for 4 dang tickets before I even had one!!

Sooner or later the whole process will be overhauled. Everytime they try to fix it(it wasn't broken)they screw it up worse. I know for a fact that several students stood down there for 5 hours Thursday morning and was never given vouchers, and when they went to the basketball office they were threatened with "penalties" and told not to come back to the offices. They had to go to class and got bumped way back in the line and then cut in front of by a bunch of adults Saturday morning.:mad: I didnt appreciate the way those kids were treated, not at all.

The police and some folks at UK don't want the camping out for tickets to continue and are looking for any excuse to stop it altogether.

[chworld22]

I do see everybody points. But I also see some folks that wont go get in line and don't try to get them on-line, yet they expect people that did sit out there for 4 days and nights to hand them over multiple tickets when they are only alloted 4 anyway. In the past I have had extra seats and always given them away to people that don't have the means to get them. But there are people that asked me for 4 dang tickets before I even had one!!

Sooner or later the whole process will be overhauled. Everytime they try to fix it(it wasn't broken)they screw it up worse. I know for a fact that several students stood down there for 5 hours Thursday morning and was never given vouchers, and when they went to the basketball office they were threatened with "penalties" and told not to come back to the offices. They had to go to class and got bumped way back in the line and then cut in front of by a bunch of adults Saturday morning.:mad: I didnt appreciate the way those kids were treated, not at all.

The police and some folks at UK don't want the camping out for tickets to continue and are looking for any excuse to stop it altogether.

I don't agree with them trying to stop the camping out! I think that is BS. The guys that sit down there (including yourself) are some of the most passionate fans in the world regardless of what team you are talking about. Most of the guys and girls that go down there are doing it because they love it they get to hang out with UK fans for a few days and camp out with the more die hard fans in the nation playing cornhole and everything (I saw that when I drove by memorial). I for one couldn't do it and I admire the people that are able to put up with camping out on concrete for three days. I don't really think there is anything wrong with the system now (except for ticketmasters process).

[Cory]

The voucher system would've worked great this year had UK done one thing differently: enforce it. It was a joke. I was #38 in line (according to the almighty voucher), and I know there had to be at least 75 people ahead of me come Saturday morning. My solution: simply set aside one window on each side for the first 100 people in line who are supposed to have vouchers. Stack the 400 BEST tickets on each side in said window and let the people with vouchers go through IN NUMERICAL ORDER and get tickets that correspond with their place in line. Let those without vouchers fight it out for the remaining tickets in the other three windows on each side. Sure, it might require a little more effort on the part of UK, but I can think of at least 38 people that would've appreciated it last Saturday morning.
Honestly, the people who cut line make me more upset than the people who are selling their tickets. I can't say that I would turn down $250 for a couple of my Row A tickets.

Cory

[Ky Man]

The tickets are free, but the students I saw damn sure earned them, IMO. I know of several people in line behind us that sold every ticket they got and will not even attend and I think that crap, but they aren't my tickets. Having said that I watched students go to class all day, study in front of their tents and sleep on the sidewalk for 3 or 4 nights. Those that kept two tickets and sold their other pair is fine by me. Some of those kids didn't have the money to buy food in line and are being hammered by people that wont go get in line and complain when they aren't given freebies.

For those that live out of the area I feel your pain, but I have done this for 20 straight years and never lived closer than Nashville. Are you upset the kids may make a few dollars or are you mad that someone that stood in line isnt giving you something for free that they had to sacrifice for? Some folks want something for nothing and their complaining does nothing but ruin this for the ones that do the right thing and do give their tickets away.

Some of you are casting an awfully wide net, IMO. If you need tickets so badly that you want to possibly get a student in trouble that is just trying to have some pocket money, then PM me and I will bust my butt the next few days and try to get you some seats. If you don't want tickets you just want to fight the good fight, find another crusade as there are much bigger tragedies in the world.

Just an FYI, I had over 25 PM's asking me for tickets, some people that had the same opportunity I did asked me for 4 tickets:eek:. I gave away every ticket, save one, to friends that I know needed the assistance, and I do that every year. There were scalpers down there waiting for people as they got out of line and I had the cops remove them from the area, but I knew they were scalpers and I see them every football and basketball game.

UK did try to add the voucher system to keep people from going through line twice, it just didnt work. There is little they can do about that outside of barcoding the backs of our hands with permanent ink.:thumbdn:

Like I said, PM me and I'll see what I can do, but if you dont at least try to get in line stop blaming the ones that do and complain about Ticketmaster. I also want to make it clear that I am not talking about everybody in this thread, some have legit complaints and I know those folks personally.

Good post, Cory.
I have read a lot of your post WCR and agree with a lot of what you say, but on this I totally disagree with you. Just because someone sleeps on the street does not give them the right to break the law or go around it. The I don't have any money arguement does not hold water with me either, just because you don't have money does not give you the right to break the law either. I know a lot of people who does not have a lot of money but they sure don't break the law to get it, college kid or not. I saw on ebay where this one person had 20 tickets, is that ok to, not only breaking the law but breaking the spirit of how these tickets were to be given out. Four to a household, not 20 just because they found a way to get 16 more than they shoud have gotten. I am not picking a fight with you or anyone else on here but just expressing my opinion. And no, I didn't get any tickets and I was up at 5:00 in order to try to get some tickets. I did not sleep on the sidewalk but I did try to get tickets the fair way. I did not cheat. Now no one can tell me that people who got 20 tickets or 12 tickets or any over the four they were suppose to get did it the fair way. But like I said...everyone has a right to their opinion.

[chworld22]

I have read a lot of your post WCR and agree with a lot of what you say, but on this I totally disagree with you. Just because someone sleeps on the street does not give them the right to break the law or go around it. The I don't have any money arguement does not hold water with me either, just because you don't have money does not give you the right to break the law either. I know a lot of people who does not have a lot of money but they sure don't break the law to get it, college kid or not. I saw on ebay where this one person had 20 tickets, is that ok to, not only breaking the law but breaking the spirit of how these tickets were to be given out. Four to a household, not 20 just because they found a way to get 16 more than they shoud have gotten. I am not picking a fight with you or anyone else on here but just expressing my opinion. And no, I didn't get any tickets and I was up at 5:00 in order to try to get some tickets. I did not sleep on the sidewalk but I did try to get tickets the fair way. I did not cheat. Now no one can tell me that people who got 20 tickets or 12 tickets or any over the four they were suppose to get did it the fair way. But like I said...everyone has a right to their opinion.

Valid points :thumbup:

[WildcatRick]

I have read a lot of your post WCR and agree with a lot of what you say, but on this I totally disagree with you. Just because someone sleeps on the street does not give them the right to break the law or go around it. The I don't have any money arguement does not hold water with me either, just because you don't have money does not give you the right to break the law either. I know a lot of people who does not have a lot of money but they sure don't break the law to get it, college kid or not. I saw on ebay where this one person had 20 tickets, is that ok to, not only breaking the law but breaking the spirit of how these tickets were to be given out. Four to a household, not 20 just because they found a way to get 16 more than they shoud have gotten. I am not picking a fight with you or anyone else on here but just expressing my opinion. And no, I didn't get any tickets and I was up at 5:00 in order to try to get some tickets. I did not sleep on the sidewalk but I did try to get tickets the fair way. I did not cheat. Now no one can tell me that people who got 20 tickets or 12 tickets or any over the four they were suppose to get did it the fair way. But like I said...everyone has a right to their opinion.

Not all of them are doing it illegally. I never said anything about the ones that got 20 tickets, of course there are some extreme cases. I have already said(several times) I dislike scalpers as much or more than anybody, but I will NOT lump some kids that sell 2 of their 4 seats in with the 20 ticket eBayers you mentioned. Dont preach to me about the 'spirit' of it, the spirit was to wait in line and go straight in, no tickets involved, but that was changed. Every change they have made since then has taken away the spirit of BBM. I know the true spirit of it, I have camped out in that same line for 20 straight years and NEVER sold one single ticket. I dont need the sprit lecture from somebody that got up at 5:00 that morning.

People that got up to get theirs online have nothing to complain about when it comes to the ones that camped out, one in no way affects the other. No matter what happened at Memorial the fiasco of Ticketmaster and people ordering multiple tickets online should be your beef.

I watched them allow a known scalper go through line last year(cutting line several times)over and over, yet they pulled an 19 year old student out of the line after he went to the back of the line ONCE. Until UK and the Police do something about the gameday scalping that goes on at Rupp and Commonwealth where football fans are being charged over $100 for a $10 parking pass, this is nothing to be whining about. Where is the spirit crusade for that?

There is no BBM spirit in getting up at 5:00 to get them on the internet, period. That was added to help out of state fans or ones that didnt have the means to get seats. I wish there was a fool proof system to get the tickets out evenly and to the people that intended to use them, but that just wont happen until they do away with the tickets and seat you as you line up, the way it was originally. Of course that brings up a whole new set of problems. There certainly is no spirit in getting a student in trouble for selling two seats cause you want to lump him in with an obvious pro that has 20.

Do you still need seats? In the spirit of BBM I will get you tickets if you need them, just PM your address. I do know some folks that have extras and they would never charge anybody for them.

[Wildcatcrazy11]

The tickets are free, that's what it says on the ticket..."free" However, in order to get good seats, an extra commitment needs to be made. This isn't about who has money and who doesn't, or who lives out of state and who doesn't. Its about those people who made the COMMITMENT to get in line Wed. morning to get those good seats. My row A ticket should say "must get in line Wed. morning" Under the price paid.

I honestly feel that the people complaining on here are the ones who do not have tickets. For whatever reason they were not able to make the commitment that I made to get my tickets. With that said, I am not selling on ebay because I know plenty of diehards that deserve to be there. I am sellling my tickets to them for a lot less than the ebayers. The people that want tickets now and don't have them also must make a commitment. That commitment, whether you like it or not is money. Its the way the world works.

Believe me, it is very hard knowing that I could post my extra's on ebay and pay for 2 years worth of books, but I can't bring my self to sell out like that. With that said, the committment I made is worth something. IMO, I waited in line for those tickets for 3 days... there has to be a monetary value on that.

[WildcatRick]

The tickets are free, that's what it says on the ticket..."free" However, in order to get good seats, an extra commitment needs to be made. This isn't about who has money and who doesn't, or who lives out of state and who doesn't. Its about those people who made the COMMITMENT to get in line Wed. morning to get those good seats. My row A ticket should say "must get in line Wed. morning" Under the price paid.

I honestly feel that the people complaining on here are the ones who do not have tickets. For whatever reason they were not able to make the commitment that I made to get my tickets. With that said, I am not selling on ebay because I know plenty of diehards that deserve to be there. I am sellling my tickets to them for a lot less than the ebayers. The people that want tickets now and don't have them also must make a commitment. That commitment, whether you like it or not is money. Its the way the world works.

Believe me, it is very hard knowing that I could post my extra's on ebay and pay for 2 years worth of books, but I can't bring my self to sell out like that. With that said, the committment I made is worth something. IMO, I waited in line for those tickets for 3 days... there has to be a monetary value on that.

If anybody here has a legit reason to complain its you. I know you got cut in front of and I tried to have something done about it. The lady and her daughter that cut you have every ticket they got listed on eBay now and those seats should have been yours. Students got shafted in this process, IMO.

[CatsFan4Evr]

If anybody here has a legit reason to complain its you. I know you got cut in front of and I tried to have something done about it. The lady and her daughter that cut you have every ticket they got listed on eBay now and those seats should have been yours. Students got shafted in this process, IMO.

I understand that those of you who woke up at 6:45 AM and got online to buy tickets may have had issues. However, those diehard and compassionate fans that slept on the concrete for three nights deserve the tickets more than you do. Period.

For those of you who were cut in front of by others- I feel for you. You are the only ones, besides the students that had to go to class and never got vouchers, who should be complaining.

Those of us that took the initiative to camp out for the tickets got rewarded. We have tickets. But for people to complain on here about how it's "not fair" for out-of-staters is crap. The vast majority of our group was from somewhere other than Lexington, with a few from Tennessee. I think the diehard fans need the tickets, and if you woke up at 6:45 AM on Saturday to buy the tickets online, then you're not very diehard IMO.

[JayB]

I wake up at 5 every morning, so Ide have to sleep in to be that diehard :) I know bad joke sorry :)

[chworld22]

I understand that those of you who woke up at 6:45 AM and got online to buy tickets may have had issues. However, those diehard and compassionate fans that slept on the concrete for three nights deserve the tickets more than you do. Period.

For those of you who were cut in front of by others- I feel for you. You are the only ones, besides the students that had to go to class and never got vouchers, who should be complaining.

Those of us that took the initiative to camp out for the tickets got rewarded. We have tickets. But for people to complain on here about how it's "not fair" for out-of-staters is crap. The vast majority of our group was from somewhere other than Lexington, with a few from Tennessee. I think the diehard fans need the tickets, and if you woke up at 6:45 AM on Saturday to buy the tickets online, then you're not very diehard IMO.

This is Bull ****! I'm not die hard? I have been to every UK Football game for the past four years and I have been to at least one away game for the past five. I have season tickets to this years basketball I am paying almost 500 dollars for. I have student season tickets this years football cats because I am a student here. And I am not die hard because I didn't want to camp out on the concrete for three days. I'm not taking anything away from you guys since that shows great commitment but to say that someone that got up at 6:45 to get tickets on line isn't die hard is ridiculous.

I have been a UK fan since I was old enough to know better and now I get to go to school here and because I didn't camp out I am not die hard. Well if being die hard means that I THINK I am better than other fans because I sacrifice more then I don't want to be die hard!

[WildcatRick]

This is Bull ****! I'm not die hard? I have been to every UK Football game for the past four years and I have been to at least one away game for the past five. I have season tickets to this years basketball I am paying almost 500 dollars for. I have student season tickets this years football cats because I am a student here. And I am not die hard because I didn't want to camp out on the concrete for three days. I'm not taking anything away from you guys since that shows great commitment but to say that someone that got up at 6:45 to get tickets on line isn't die hard is ridiculous.

I have been a UK fan since I was old enough to know better and now I get to go to school here and because I didn't camp out I am not die hard. Well if being die hard means that I THINK I am better than other fans because I sacrifice more then I don't want to be die hard!

To be fair, you also called out people as not being "real fans" earlier in this thread, so thats all about interpretation. You cant call out someone for being less of a fan than you and then get worked up over his definition of die hard fans. Just an opinion!!

[chworld22]

To be fair, you also called out people as not being "real fans" earlier in this thread, so thats all about interpretation. You cant call out someone for being less of a fan than you and then get worked up over his definition of die hard fans. Just an opinion!!

Difference being that I was talking about people who had already bought their tickets in the lower level of basketball games that were sitting on their hands and I never used the words "real fans." There is a HUGE difference between people that pay 200 bucks to sit by the court and SIT the whole game and people that camp out for three days to get madness tickets. If you want to call them out as not being Die Hard then go right ahead but to tell people that because they didn't want to camp out that they are not die hard it a much much bigger leap.

And I did get worked up because there are a huge amount of people out there that couldn't come out there to camp out because they just couldn't for many reasons. I agree that the fans that do that are bigger UK fans than me if he had phrased it like that then I wouldn't have taken offense but to tell eveyone that didn't come out there and camp for three days that they are not Die Hard UK fans is wrong regardless of how you cut it.

[WildcatRick]

Difference being that I was talking about people who had already bought their tickets in the lower level of basketball games that were sitting on their hands and I never used the words "real fans." There is a HUGE difference between people that pay 200 bucks to sit by the court and SIT the whole game and people that camp out for three days to get madness tickets. If you want to call them out as not being Die Hard then go right ahead but to tell people that because they didn't want to camp out that they are not die hard it a much much bigger leap.

And I did get worked up because there are a huge amount of people out there that couldn't come out there to camp out because they just couldn't for many reasons. I agree that the fans that do that are bigger UK fans than me if he had phrased it like that then I wouldn't have taken offense but to tell eveyone that didn't come out there and camp for three days that they are not Die Hard UK fans is wrong regardless of how you cut it.

You never used the term "real fans"?? Really??

Your quote.....

"I think the limit if four per id but if you have a few people go up there together with the plan of selling them all and they all get 4 then they would go quick as they did. I think they should set the limit at 2 that would take it down alot. But people with families would have to have more people go with them which would suck for them but it would help the real fans get tickets."


That is your opinion and he stated his, I know him and I doubt very seriously that he thinks hes a better fan than you. People tell me I am a lot worse than that for sleeping on the sidewalk for days on end to get into a glorified practice, but I dont get worked up over it.

[chworld22]

You never used the term "real fans"?? Really??

Your quote.....

"I think the limit if four per id but if you have a few people go up there together with the plan of selling them all and they all get 4 then they would go quick as they did. I think they should set the limit at 2 that would take it down alot. But people with families would have to have more people go with them which would suck for them but it would help the real fans get tickets."


That is your opinion and he stated his, I know him and I doubt very seriously that he thinks hes a better fan than you. People tell me I am a lot worse than that for sleeping on the sidewalk for days on end to get into a glorified practice, but I dont get worked up over it.

You are right I did use that term I read back over all my posts and missed it.

I understand you know him so you are taking up for his post and his opinion but calling people out for not being die hard fans because they don't want to camp out for three days to get tickets and saying that "real Fans" could get tickets are at two different ends of the spectrum. I meant it as there were tons of people that weren't real fans who got tickets for resale online there are tons of fans that are die hard fans that are reselling their tickets as well (I would say not as many).

I think that all of the people including yourself that camped out for those lower level seats are the cream of the crop as far as UK fans are concerned including CatsFan4Evr. But you can't call out other fans for not being "Die Hard" because they didn't for whatever their reasons good or bad. That is more of the point I was trying to make. Maybe I went a little over the top with it but the point is still valid.

I do a lot for UK and their sports teams and university and I consider myself Die Hard Bleed Blue though and though so I get a little pushed out of shape when someone suggests otherwise.

[WildcatRick]

I don't disagree with you at all!! I am no better of a fan than you or anybody else. They tried to get me to say I was on TV and in the paper the other day and I refused. These terms mean different things to different people, but I am sure CF4E doesn't think hes more die hard than anybody else. I am just against labeling any fan with a level of fanaticism.

I know a guy that is as true blue as they come, but he was labeled as less of a fan because he didnt like Tubby. He was called a hater, a racist and names I cant say over it, and I guarantee he was none of the above. Hard to base anything like that on what is said on a message board.

You meet up with all of us before BBM and I will make him apologize for saying you werent die hard!!;)

[chworld22]

I don't disagree with you at all!! I am no better of a fan than you or anybody else. They tried to get me to say I was on TV and in the paper the other day and I refused. These terms mean different things to different people, but I am sure CF4E doesn't think hes more die hard than anybody else. I am just against labeling any fan with a level of fanaticism.

I know a guy that is as true blue as they come, but he was labeled as less of a fan because he didnt like Tubby. He was called a hater, a racist and names I cant say over it, and I guarantee he was none of the above. Hard to base anything like that on what is said on a message board.

You meet up with all of us before BBM and I will make him apologize for saying you werent die hard!!;)


LOL ok I will meet up with you guys before madness if or when I am lucky enough to get some tickets :icon_biggrin:. But you don't have to make him apologize I am sure he will do that on his own after he sees me roll up dressed from head to toe in Blue. As long as Blue Jeans count.

You are right labeling levels of fandom is wrong regardless of the the label or the reasoning. I never meant my original post to mean that UK fans that were selling their tickets were less of fans but I meant it as more of the business lady you talked about getting them for pure profit.

I shouldn't have gotten so pissed at the original post anyway.

[WildcatRick]

LOL ok I will meet up with you guys before madness if or when I am lucky enough to get some tickets :icon_biggrin:. But you don't have to make him apologize I am sure he will do that on his own after he sees me roll up dressed from head to toe in Blue. As long as Blue Jeans count.

You are right labeling levels of fandom is wrong regardless of the the label or the reasoning. I never meant my original post to mean that UK fans that were selling their tickets were less of fans but I meant it as more of the business lady you talked about getting them for pure profit.

I shouldn't have gotten so pissed at the original post anyway.

Your tickets are taken care of.:thumbup:

[chworld22]

Your tickets are taken care of.:thumbup:

:icon_biggrin::icon_biggrin:

[bump63]

I understand that those of you who woke up at 6:45 AM and got online to buy tickets may have had issues. However, those diehard and compassionate fans that slept on the concrete for three nights deserve the tickets more than you do. Period.

For those of you who were cut in front of by others- I feel for you. You are the only ones, besides the students that had to go to class and never got vouchers, who should be complaining.

Those of us that took the initiative to camp out for the tickets got rewarded. We have tickets. But for people to complain on here about how it's "not fair" for out-of-staters is crap. The vast majority of our group was from somewhere other than Lexington, with a few from Tennessee. I think the diehard fans need the tickets, and if you woke up at 6:45 AM on Saturday to buy the tickets online, then you're not very diehard IMO.

Thats a pretty harsh statement friend--not everyone had the chance
to camp out for tickets. and it certainly does not make you any more diehard
than those who had to work or were too ill to camp out.

[Littlemeyer]

I think the diehard fans need the tickets, and if you woke up at 6:45 AM on Saturday to buy the tickets online, then you're not very diehard IMO.

I hope this wasn't meant the way it came across.

[Radiated]

I'm sorry, a fan that cannot get off work for 3-4 days, drive for 12 hours, and lose hundreds of dollars by taking off work are just as much fans as anyone.

I could have got off and went, but after being off work for 3 months last year.

I commend that that had the chance to camp out. They not only got great tickets, but they had 3 days of fun interaction with other fans, players, etc.

But selling tickets and making money is the American way now.

[Wildcatcrazy11]

Diehard or not diehard, those who camped out made a much greater commitment to good seats than other fans did. Despite the diehard factor, these fans are allowed to do whatever they want with their tickets.

IMO if you don't like the fact people are selling their tickets than you need to camp out and get the same tickets and not sell them. I'm not saying its fair, but life's not fair. Either make an effort to change the process, camp out to get your tickets, or stop complaining.

[chworld22]

Diehard or not diehard, those who camped out made a much greater commitment to good seats than other fans did. Despite the diehard factor, these fans are allowed to do whatever they want with their tickets.

IMO if you don't like the fact people are selling their tickets than you need to camp out and get the same tickets and not sell them. I'm not saying its fair, but life's not fair. Either make an effort to change the process, camp out to get your tickets, or stop complaining.

I can't argue with that.:thumbup:

[m0fats]

Rick, you have the patience of Job.

http://digitalcollections.uwyo.edu/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/gob.JPG


Despite all of the tension in this thread it's nice that most qualms have be settled with real acts of generosity. Big ups for helping everyone out when you could have gone the way of internet scalper and put a down payment on a new car. :thumbup:

[poodoo]

Rick, you have the patience of Job.

http://digitalcollections.uwyo.edu/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2007/01/gob.JPG


Despite all of the tension in this thread it's nice that most qualms have be settled with real acts of generosity. Big ups for helping everyone out when you could have gone the way of internet scalper and put a down payment on a new car. :thumbup:

AMEN to that. Too, his patience is not his best trait. It's a beautifully soft, kind, generous heart. That's "our" WildcatRick, folks.

[Gunsmoke]

Wow..people sure put a lot of their heart and soul into this thread and I commend all for doing so. That being said..WHERE ARE MY TICKETS!!!!!!!!:icon_mrgreen:

I know..the checks in the mail!!!!:eek::icon_lol::widcat:

[CatsFan4Evr]

I never meant to imply that people who got their tickets online weren't "diehard". All I meant is that those that camped out on the concrete made a commitment for FREE tickets and should be rewarded with the better seats. There are plenty of opportunities to see this team play during the season. My stance is simply that those who camped out for 3 days should get the guaranteed, better seats. I apologize to those that didn't get tickets, but several on here and on other boards want the distribution to go strictly online, which is insane. Where's the fun in that?

For those of us that camp out, getting great seats is pretty cool. The best part is actually camping out. Getting to see friends that you haven't seen in a year is the best thing about it. I guess those of us who camp out are a little sensitive about distribution, because who knows if we will even have one next year.

I apologize if I came off with an attitude. That wasn't my intention.

[WildcatRick]

I never meant to imply that people who got their tickets online weren't "diehard". All I meant is that those that camped out on the concrete made a commitment for FREE tickets and should be rewarded with the better seats. There are plenty of opportunities to see this team play during the season. My stance is simply that those who camped out for 3 days should get the guaranteed, better seats. I apologize to those that didn't get tickets, but several on here and on other boards want the distribution to go strictly online, which is insane. Where's the fun in that?

For those of us that camp out, getting great seats is pretty cool. The best part is actually camping out. Getting to see friends that you haven't seen in a year is the best thing about it. I guess those of us who camp out are a little sensitive about distribution, because who knows if we will even have one next year.

I apologize if I came off with an attitude. That wasn't my intention.

I knew what you meant. Thanks for clearing that up.

[chworld22]

I never meant to imply that people who got their tickets online weren't "diehard". All I meant is that those that camped out on the concrete made a commitment for FREE tickets and should be rewarded with the better seats. There are plenty of opportunities to see this team play during the season. My stance is simply that those who camped out for 3 days should get the guaranteed, better seats. I apologize to those that didn't get tickets, but several on here and on other boards want the distribution to go strictly online, which is insane. Where's the fun in that?

For those of us that camp out, getting great seats is pretty cool. The best part is actually camping out. Getting to see friends that you haven't seen in a year is the best thing about it. I guess those of us who camp out are a little sensitive about distribution, because who knows if we will even have one next year.

I apologize if I came off with an attitude. That wasn't my intention.

Now this I agree with!

[cnice11]

I don' think scalping is illegal online and I don't think there is anything that could be done about it.

First of all I want to make clear, I do not condone scalping at all. But, its hard to say anything about scalpers, when people get hosed by ticket brokers all the time. I remember looking up tickets on ticketmaster for UK bball game one time and a ticket that cost i think they are $20-$30, is sold for hundreds or even thousands on ticketmaster.

[chworld22]

First of all I want to make clear, I do not condone scalping at all. But, its hard to say anything about scalpers, when people get hosed by ticket brokers all the time. I remember looking up tickets on ticketmaster for UK bball game one time and a ticket that cost i think they are $20-$30, is sold for hundreds or even thousands on ticketmaster.

Ticket brokers are different though because they are based out of different cities. If you live in New York you can sell a ticket to a UK game for any price you want. Same thing with tax online. If you buy something from dell and have it shipped to IN you don't have to pay sales tax because Dell doesn't have any business in IN. It is the same concept with resale of ball game tickets.