The sorriest generation

[bigjeep]

If the World War II generation was America's greatest generation (while it was great, I believe the founding generation was actually America's greatest), this generation is America's sorriest generation! In fact, I am ashamed of my generation.

Furthermore, it seems the one coming behind me is even worse, if that's possible. If God doesn't miraculously intervene on behalf of our once great nation, we are doomed! And I do not say this lightly or without deliberation.

Financially, America is bankrupt and living on borrowed monies. In all likelihood, it is beyond financial recovery. Culturally, America is decadent and, apart from divine intervention, beyond repair. Politically, America has abandoned constitutional government and is now in the hands of lawless thugs. Spiritually, America is apostate. The vast majority of America's Christian leaders are aiding and abetting our spiritual demise. Every single standard of national greatness has fallen into the basement!

America has lost its identity and is fast losing its language! We have lost our Christian heritage, and most Christians either don't notice or don't care. We are losing our borders and our resolve to protect them. Foreigners control our debt, and now President Bush wants to give them control of our ports. And for the most part, foreigners even control our foreign policy. In addition, politicians and preachers alike are slaves to the rich and powerful.

Beyond that, our nation has become addicted, yes, even obsessed, with sports, leisure, and gambling! Sports celebrities are more than icons, they are gods! Leisure is more than a pastime, it is the greatest motivation for living. It seems that all people dream about is having the financial ability to retire.

By retirement they mean living a life without responsibility, duty, or obligation. In other words, a life of total self-absorption. And since most are unwilling or even incapable of earning such a life, gambling is the preferred method of obtaining this ultimate life of irresponsibility.

Let me ask a question: what is this greedy generation going to leave their posterity? The answer is NOTHING! On the whole, this generation doesn't know how to give; it only knows how to take.

This generation doesn't care about out-of-control federal spending, because its personal spending is out-of-control. It doesn't know how to hold politicians accountable to the Constitution, because it cannot even hold its own children accountable to much of anything.

I am reminded of the Old Testament story of King Hezekiah who, after being told by the prophet Isaiah that his sons would be conquered by Babylon and taken into slavery and judgment, responded by saying that at least "there shall be peace in my days."

In other words, as long as Hezekiah could sit on his easy chair, he just didn't care. As long as he did not have to endure the pain and affliction of divine judgment, he was satisfied. As long as he was comfortable, he didn't really care what kind of heartache and grief his children and grandchildren would be forced to experience. Everything revolved around his own peace and comfort. If you ask me, the word for that is SORRY. And if you ask me further, that is exactly where this generation of Americans finds itself today.

What kind of generation is it that does not give a rip about what kind of country it is leaving for its children? What kind of spoiled, selfish brats have we become that we can be so flippant about the continual loss of our country's liberties and freedoms? What kind of self-centered monsters have we become that our great ambition in life is to sit back, do nothing, accomplish nothing, change nothing, resist nothing, and leave nothing?

When the wicked king Belshazzar saw God's finger writing warnings of judgment on the wall, he trembled. He had good reason to tremble. That same night, he was killed and his kingdom conquered.

To anyone with eyes to see, God is writing His warnings of judgment all over the walls of America. However, we are even worse than Belshazzar. We don't even know how to tremble!



Chuck Baldwin is Founder-Pastor of Crossroads Baptist Church in Pensacola, Florida. In 1985, the church was recognized by President Ronald Reagan for its unusual growth and influence.

[NC Cat]

I'm more a glass half full kinda guy myself...:rolleyes:

[BOURBON TOWN CAT FAN]

Nice post, you should have posted it under the political discussion section though.

[Will Lavender]

Guy needs to tone down the exclamation points.

[Littlemeyer]

I kind of feel sorry for a guy that miserable. I don't know, maybe its just me, but I kind of enjoy being alive right now. Things are pretty good...

Of course, that could be because I live in Kentucky. I kinda like it here...:dude:

[Jeff Craddock]

I read things like this and wonder who wrote more or less the same thing twenty years ago....or twenty years before that.....and so on. There will always be someone(s) who come up with "we are going to hell in a handbasket" scenarios, but I agree with Littlemeyer. If you look around you and see what this guy sees, how miserable would you feel?

I like my life and am grateful for all of it, joy and pain alike. (Even if I don't live in Kentucky. ;)) And almost everyone I know is involved in helping others in some way, either professionally or doing some kind of volunteer work....or both.

If he wants to point fingers at the rest of us--guys with that level of self-righteousness rarely recognize their own shortcomings--then he can certainly do so. But there really are better ways of making things better than pointing out what a bunch of miserable wretches the rest of us are. :shock:

[Stucat]

Jeff Craddock wrote: I read things like this and wonder who wrote more or less the same thing twenty years ago....or twenty years before that.....and so on. There will always be someone(s) who come up with "we are going to hell in a handbasket" scenarios, but I agree with Littlemeyer. If you look around you and see what this guy sees, how miserable would you feel?

I like my life and am grateful for all of it, joy and pain alike. (Even if I don't live in Kentucky. ;)) And almost everyone I know is involved in helping others in some way, either professionally or doing some kind of volunteer work....or both.

If he wants to point fingers at the rest of us--guys with that level of self-righteousness rarely recognize their own shortcomings--then he can certainly do so. But there really are better ways of making things better than pointing out what a bunch of miserable wretches the rest of us are. :shock:


I agree Jeff that this guy must be miserable because he only sees the worst in people not the best. At least he is a step up from the preacher in Kansas that leads protests during military funerals from Iraq yelling at grieving families thattheir child died for nothing as God is going to destroy America because of "gays." To me that is one sick reverand. Lately motor cycle gangs have come and created a protective barrier between the preacher and his protestors and the familiesat the military funerals. Thankfully someone is not going to let the "good reverand" get by with disrupting funerals. That something like that could happen really makes me wonder about life in the United States today.:question

[HOMEYCAT]

I would like to reiterate Jeff C's message in a fashion which has been told. Every generation, indeed every four year time period and every six month period might believably be described as, "It was the best of times, It was the worst of times."

[Blue Heaven]

Excellent post Bigjeep! If folks today can't see not just America, but the World as a whole getting worse and worse then I really feel sorry for them.

Makes me think of a quote by Edmund Burke: "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."

[bigsky]

bigjeep wrote:
If the World War II generation was America's greatest generation (while it was great, I believe the founding generation was actually America's greatest), this generation is America's sorriest generation! In fact, I am ashamed of my generation.

Furthermore, it seems the one coming behind me is even worse, if that's possible. If God doesn't miraculously intervene on behalf of our once great nation, we are doomed! And I do not say this lightly or without deliberation.

Financially, America is bankrupt and living on borrowed monies. In all likelihood, it is beyond financial recovery. Culturally, America is decadent and, apart from divine intervention, beyond repair. Politically, America has abandoned constitutional government and is now in the hands of lawless thugs. Spiritually, America is apostate. The vast majority of America's Christian leaders are aiding and abetting our spiritual demise. Every single standard of national greatness has fallen into the basement!

America has lost its identity and is fast losing its language! We have lost our Christian heritage, and most Christians either don't notice or don't care. We are losing our borders and our resolve to protect them. Foreigners control our debt, and now President Bush wants to give them control of our ports. And for the most part, foreigners even control our foreign policy. In addition, politicians and preachers alike are slaves to the rich and powerful.

Beyond that, our nation has become addicted, yes, even obsessed, with sports, leisure, and gambling! Sports celebrities are more than icons, they are gods! Leisure is more than a pastime, it is the greatest motivation for living. It seems that all people dream about is having the financial ability to retire.

By retirement they mean living a life without responsibility, duty, or obligation. In other words, a life of total self-absorption. And since most are unwilling or even incapable of earning such a life, gambling is the preferred method of obtaining this ultimate life of irresponsibility.

Let me ask a question: what is this greedy generation going to leave their posterity? The answer is NOTHING! On the whole, this generation doesn't know how to give; it only knows how to take.

This generation doesn't care about out-of-control federal spending, because its personal spending is out-of-control. It doesn't know how to hold politicians accountable to the Constitution, because it cannot even hold its own children accountable to much of anything.

I am reminded of the Old Testament story of King Hezekiah who, after being told by the prophet Isaiah that his sons would be conquered by Babylon and taken into slavery and judgment, responded by saying that at least "there shall be peace in my days."

In other words, as long as Hezekiah could sit on his easy chair, he just didn't care. As long as he did not have to endure the pain and affliction of divine judgment, he was satisfied. As long as he was comfortable, he didn't really care what kind of heartache and grief his children and grandchildren would be forced to experience. Everything revolved around his own peace and comfort. If you ask me, the word for that is SORRY. And if you ask me further, that is exactly where this generation of Americans finds itself today.

What kind of generation is it that does not give a rip about what kind of country it is leaving for its children? What kind of spoiled, selfish brats have we become that we can be so flippant about the continual loss of our country's liberties and freedoms? What kind of self-centered monsters have we become that our great ambition in life is to sit back, do nothing, accomplish nothing, change nothing, resist nothing, and leave nothing?

When the wicked king Belshazzar saw God's finger writing warnings of judgment on the wall, he trembled. He had good reason to tremble. That same night, he was killed and his kingdom conquered.

To anyone with eyes to see, God is writing His warnings of judgment all over the walls of America. However, we are even worse than Belshazzar. We don't even know how to tremble!



Chuck Baldwin is Founder-Pastor of Crossroads Baptist Church in Pensacola, Florida. In 1985, the church was recognized by President Ronald Reagan for its unusual growth and influence.

Never mind Belshazzar, it's the BullshizzER that's ole Chuck's throwin around.

Reminds me of theancient writings in the Ge'Hai faith, where the sacred Roach was LOST! Woest to ye, that droppeth the Roach, whilst motoring down the highway of life! For unto you much was given, but ye failed to heed the warnings and grasp the consecrated clip, and now the ember scorcheth the sacred jewels, and ye shall be condemned to the fire that passeth human understanding!

bigsky can marry any couple with a license and twenty bucks. he was recognized last weekand has moved to an undisclosed location.In 1985, he did have an unusual growth that resembled Nancy Reagan's head burnt off at the proctologists office.

[UKSam]

Stucat wrote: Jeff Craddock wrote: I read things like this and wonder who wrote more or less the same thing twenty years ago....or twenty years before that.....and so on. There will always be someone(s) who come up with "we are going to hell in a handbasket" scenarios, but I agree with Littlemeyer. If you look around you and see what this guy sees, how miserable would you feel?

I like my life and am grateful for all of it, joy and pain alike. (Even if I don't live in Kentucky. ;)) And almost everyone I know is involved in helping others in some way, either professionally or doing some kind of volunteer work....or both.

If he wants to point fingers at the rest of us--guys with that level of self-righteousness rarely recognize their own shortcomings--then he can certainly do so. But there really are better ways of making things better than pointing out what a bunch of miserable wretches the rest of us are. :shock:


I agree Jeff that this guy must be miserable because he only sees the worst in people not the best. At least he is a step up from the preacher in Kansas that leads protests during military funerals from Iraq yelling at grieving families thattheir child died for nothing as God is going to destroy America because of "gays." To me that is one sick reverand. Lately motor cycle gangs have come and created a protective barrier between the preacher and his protestors and the familiesat the military funerals. Thankfully someone is not going to let the "good reverand" get by with disrupting funerals. That something like that could happen really makes me wonder about life in the United States today.:question
Recently Evansville lost a young man to the war and this same group came to protest. There were many vets that came with signs, many had bikes, made noise etc that would drown out the protestors. The signs were large enough to block out the view of the protestors as well.

I did not attend but have talked to several SWAT guys who were detailed to the funeralin case of violence. They were all proud of the actions of the Veterans and bikers. They made a great statement, were supportive of the family and were very understanding of the fact that we (the police) were charged with protecting the rights of the protestors (that's our job, personal beliefs aside).

I am not going to express my views about the war in this thread. I see both sides and it would be much too lengthy to explain. Regardless of "why". I do support anyone that is brave enough to represent, defend and be willing to die for my country.

I also have a lot of trouble with someone who proclaims to be a "man of God" that uses a funeral of someone as a pulpit for their beliefs.

[HOMEYCAT]

Blue Heaven wrote: Excellent post Bigjeep! If folks today can't see not just America, but the World as a whole getting worse and worse then I really feel sorry for them.

Makes me think of a quote by Edmund Burke: "All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing."
It's ironic that you feel sorry for those who can see the good in humanity.

That, when we actually look around, when compared to the problems of the past, today doesn't seem all that bad. There is also love all over this planet. It just doesn't make for good headlines.

Bless your neighbor instead of being crippled by the headlines. Bless your enemies and they will get off your back. Your burden will be lifted.

This world is getting better in ways. Think of the freedom at hand. Evil doesn't have a prayer ofwinning over mankind. It is as pathetic as the bunkered Hitler.

[bigjeep]

I want to thank you guys for making me feel so much better. I had no idea the world was in so much harmony. Lets drink a coke to it...

[Will Lavender]

bigjeep wrote: I want to thank you guys for making me feel so much better. I had no idea the world was in so much harmony. Lets drink a coke to it...





I don't see anyone in the thread suggesting that there is "so much harmony" in the world.

But you have to admit that this guy holds an extreme position.

One can say, "The world contains love," yet on the other hand say, "There is evil in the world."

This guy's point seems to have no room for love. He is so afraid of evil and doom that he has a pessimistic, fatalistic tunnel vision.

Personally, I don't want any part of what he's selling. I feel sorry for his congregation.

[bigsky]

Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today...

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace...


Call me a dreamer...

[bigjeep]

if by extreme positionyou meanpreaching about debt, corruption, borderless America, money grubbing preachers, our obsession of sports, especially sunday mornings instead of church, parents who not only can or will take care of their kids as babiesand could care less what happens to them as adults...sorry it wasn`t a feel good piece. The articlehas sort of an old fire and brimstone flavor to it. It`s meant to warn us and maybe scare us.

[oruacat2]

When you describe it that way it has more of a GOP-platform-feel to it, which I suspect is why you posted it to begin with.

KD

[Will Lavender]

bigjeep wrote: It`s meant to warn us and maybe scare us.
Really? Tough to tell. You know, considering the sermon was so subtle and all. :?

[PatioDaddio]

Lots of this kind of rhetoric going around.....

"If God doesn't miraculously intervene on behalf of our once great nation, we are doomed! "

This baptist pastor's gonna be part of the mob...you know...when a "national emergency" hits us

(like a terror bomb, whatever...it's gonna happen)

he's gonna be the guychecking your "papers" (like, you know, your hand or your forehead)......to make sure that unless you have the mark, you cannot buy or sell.

All in the name of "god" doncha know.....

"They will kill you, thinking they do God a service"....

Everybody...the world.... isbeing set up for just this.

[ukwebfan]

Most everyone I know looks at me as a positive individual but I blame Baby Boomers for many of the problems in this country. We only seem to be leaving a legacy of greed and instant gratification to our children. Although injecting discipline and patience only lands us in jail and scorns of ridicule. Maybe my parents blame themselves too but my generation talked the talk in the 60's and 70's but don't walk the walk anymore.

[sardiscat]

Until I saw the paragraph about sports, I thought this wasaquote from one of the Founding Fathers.

[surveyor]

Will Lavender wrote: Guy needs to tone down the exclamation points.


You're kidding, right?

That's what you came away with after reading it, that 6 exclamation points are too many? :)

[VIIBanners]

Give me that old time religion....
Give me that old time religion....

And it's good enough for me.:rolleyes:



I'll take "I'll Fly Away" anyday of the week over this brain washing.

[bigsky]

ukwebfan wrote: Most everyone I know looks at me as a positive individual but I blame Baby Boomers for many of the problems in this country. We only seem to be leaving a legacy of greed and instant gratification to our children. Although injecting discipline and patience only lands us in jail and scorns of ridicule. Maybe my parents blame themselves too but my generation talked the talk in the 60's and 70's but don't walk the walk anymore.

That's pretty accurate. I think the faults of Bill Clinton are the faults of his generation; self absorbtion and a lack of disclipline.