Your best guess as to UK's bowl destination?

[The Old School JPS]

Peer into your crystal ball and give us your best guess as to UK's bowl destination.

[VirginiaBlue]

This isn't anything more than wishful thinking for me. Living here in VA, I'd love for UK to play either UVA or VT. We would, as our past senator George Allen said about the Democrats, "knock their soft teeth down their whiny throats".:icon_mrgreen:

[BigBlue75]

I picked the Chik-fil-A against Va Tech.

[gerntz]

9-3 Sugar - we're the best record with the best wins
8-4 Atlanta - a guess If MSu also 8-4, think they go to Cotton. TN or GA to Sugar, other to Outback, FL to Cap 1, AU - ? Liberty ?
7-5 Liberty - just don't see MCB back-to-back

[RaviMoss#1fan]

ChikFilA bowl in Catlanta i take that

[Buck_Naked]

....for any of you who put stock/faith in that website.

LIBERTY: C-USA #1 vs. SEC #6/7 (Dec. 29, 4:30 p.m., ESPN)
The Matchup: Houston vs. Kentucky
The Buzz: If you like defense, you wouldn't want to watch this one.


This is straight from their site, even the snide remark about the defenses.

They have also dropped Woodson all the way to 7th place on their power rankings for QB's (U of L's Brohm is 11th in case you were wondering).

[caliparifan]

I just want to see them play and win a bowl game again. We have no idea what next year is going to be like.

[Kentucker]

I agree. I'd almost prefer seeing them blast an unsuspecting Houston team in the Liberty than to lose in a higher bowl to a B10 team. Two straight bowl wins sounds a lot better to the Ohio and Illinois recruits than does a loss to a Michigan or Illinois.f

[KWICD]

I think that loss to Mississippi State will continue to haunt them. The got to the Liberty Bowl. One of the worst stadiums in the world.

[Captain Morgan]

Catlanta against Boston College. Two great QB's !

[ShelbyvilleCathead]

Illinois in Tampa. Unless us or them fall apart in the next two weeks.
I see LSU & GA winning out, sorry but I do, and going to a NC & BCS game. Florida finishes 2nd in SECE and secures a spot in the Capital One Bowl, we beat UT and secure our spot in the Outback Bowl(Why wouldn't they want us),Auburn beats Bama to lock up the Cotton Bowl. UT to the Chick-Fila-Bowl. Bama heads on up to the Music City Bowl Slyvester takes the scrappy Bulldogs of Miss St. nowhere to play in the Independence Bowl. South Carolina, Arkansas and Vandy if they could pull out another win would hope to fall in elsewhere if possible.

[ShelbyvilleCathead]

Just thought about what I just posted. GA & LSU both can't run the table. Do anyone think GA would still get a BCS bid if they lose in the SEC CG ?

[jh4uk]

Catlanta against Boston College. Two great QB's !


i agree with you capt.

[The Old School JPS]

I don't think the Liberty Bowl is likely. I just can't see the Music City Bowl not taking UK, should the ChikFilA or Outback not take the Wildcats.

I also think that this season UK would fare very, very well against just about any team from the ACC or Big Ten. I'd love to see the program serve notice by laying a loss on an old school traditional power like Penn State or a currently well regarded program like Virginia Tech or Wisconsin. (I think I'd enjoy that more than seeing UK expose Boston College or Virginia as overrated posers.)

This isn't anything more than wishful thinking for me. Living here in VA, I'd love for UK to play either UVA or VT. We would, as our past senator George Allen said about the Democrats, "knock their soft teeth down their whiny throats".:icon_mrgreen:

Let's hope UK does better with that boast than George Allen did. I believe he's still coughing up his teeth courtesy of Senator Webb.

[BOURBON TOWN CAT FAN]

Do we want to see UK - Clemson round 3 ? I would think that bowl reps try not to have rematches of the previous year also.

[RV]

If we win 8 we play on New Year's day in Tampa.

If we win 9 we will play in Orlando or possibly New Orleans. Depends on the mood of the Sugar Bowl reps.

[jwade]

If we win 9, UGA beats Ga Tech, UT beats Vandy, and UF beats both Fla Atlantic and FSU, then the final East standings are as follows:

UF 9-3/5-3 East Champion by virtue of beating UK
UK 9-3/5-3 Second by virtue of beating UT
UT 8-4/5-3 Third by virtue of beating UGA
UGA 9-3/5-3

UF and LSU meet in the SEC championship game. If LSU wins, they play for the national championship. UF likely draws into the Sugar Bowl. The way I read the BCS selection criteria, we won't play in a BCS Bowl (i.e. the Sugar Bowl) because: (1) we're not eligible for automatic qualification under provisions 1 through 6, nor (2) we won't qualify under provision 7 unless our BCS ranking improves to 14 or better. Being as we're now ranked 23, I see that as unlikely. In this case, I see us in Capital One.

If UF wins the SEC championship game, they draw into the Sugar Bowl. Assuming LSU drops to 3 or lower in the BCS, they likely draw in as an at-large team to either the Orange or the Fiesta Bowls and we still go to Capital One.

If we win 8 by losing to UGA and beating UT, that leaves us tied with UT behind UGA and UF. In this case, UGA goes to the SEC championship game (with similar consequences as described for UF above) and UF goes to Capital One. I have little doubt that Outback would then choose us over UT.

However, if we win 8 by losing to UT and beating UGA then UT goes to the championship game. If UT then loses to LSU, there's a good chance that they won't draw in as an at-large team because their BCS ranking would have to improve from their current 20 to at least 14. In this case maybe UF or UGA draws in as the SEC at-large team with the other going to Capital One, and we still squeak into the Outback (although they would have to bypass UT). If neither UF nor UT nor UGA draws an at-large invitation, then everyone gets knocked down a peg which puts us in the Peach. Although the bowl reps do have some limited flexibility in extending invitations, as when the Outback bypassed UGA in our favor in 1998.

The key, as always, is to get 2 teams into the BCS. This is easier this year because of the elimination of Notre Dame (see provision 4).

I think. But I still ordered Sugar Bowl tickets today, just in case. :icon_mrgreen:

Here's the link to BCS selection criteria. It's fun reading. http://www.bcsfootball.org/bcsfb/definition



Jim

[RV]

Right now the BCS rankings are:

Georgia #9
Florida #12
Tennessee #20
Kentucky #23
Georgia Tech unranked
Florida State and Florida Atlantic unranked
Vanderbilt unranked.

If we win 9, UGA beats Ga Tech, UT beats Vandy, and UF beats both Fla Atlantic and FSU, then the final East standings are as follows:

UF 9-3/5-3 East Champion by virtue of beating UK
UK 9-3/5-3 Second by virtue of beating UT and UGA
UT 8-4/5-3 Third by virtue of beating UGA
UGA 9-3/5-3

If Florida beats LSU, both would get BCS bids and the following scenarios are irrelevant.

Given the above scenario if Florida loses to LSU in the SEC CG, the Gators would be 9-4 and slipping to around 12-15 in the BCS.

Georgia having lost to UK and beating an unranked GaTech would also fall to the 12-15 range.

Tennessee having lost to UK and beating an unranked Vandy would drop down to 25 or so.

UK having beaten #9 Georgia and top 25 Tennessee to finish out the season would easily jump into the top 15 and probably the top 12 AND be the second place team in the East AND have a better overall record than Florida. Ergo with it's legions of fans, would be highly attractive to the Sugar and within the listed criteria.

[Los Gatos]

Just thought about what I just posted. GA & LSU both can't run the table. Do anyone think GA would still get a BCS bid if they lose in the SEC CG ?

Actually both LSU and UGa can run the table. In fact, it's a very likely scenario. If UT-K beats both Vandy and UK, they, not UGa, will go to the SEC championship game. Assuming LSU wins the SEC champ game, UGa finishes 10-2 and is likely to go to the Sugar, Fla to Cap One, UT-K to Outback.

[jwade]

UK having beaten #9 Georgia and top 25 Tennessee to finish out the season would easily jump into the top 15 and probably the top 12 AND be the second place team in the East AND have a better overall record than Florida. Ergo with it's legions of fans, would be highly attractive to the Sugar and within the listed criteria.

I don't think so.

First, as I read the qualifying criteria you have to be 14 or higher get a bid to a BCS bowl (except for the mid-major provision #3). If we only get to 15, we can't get in as I read the rules.

Second, we will have a better overall record than UF only because UF will have played an additional game, and that game being the SEC championship against the #1 BCS team. However UF is still the division champ, they still beat us head-to-head, and they will likely finish ahead of us in the BCS rankings. Under these conditions I don't see any way the Sugar can take us over UF.

But hey, I ordered my Sugar tix just in case.


Jim

[gerntz]

If teams tie in a division's standing, I understand that all tieees are co-champs of that division but one plays in the champ game by tie breaker, i.e., the tiebreaker is for champ game participation, not for who is division champ.

If that's the case, we can go to any bowl game.

[Los Gatos]

....for any of you who put stock/faith in that website.

LIBERTY: C-USA #1 vs. SEC #6/7 (Dec. 29, 4:30 p.m., ESPN)
The Matchup: Houston vs. Kentucky
The Buzz: If you like defense, you wouldn't want to watch this one.


This is straight from their site, even the snide remark about the defenses.

They have also dropped Woodson all the way to 7th place on their power rankings for QB's (U of L's Brohm is 11th in case you were wondering).

Rivals has up-dated their projection and now have us in the Outback vs Michigan.

http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=739017

[ctab5]

I would love to see them play Michigan.. I'm an Ohio State fan and a Kentucky fan so I def. wouldn't mind seeing Michigan lose to Ohio State and Kentucky ... in the same year.

[UKGrad87]

If we win 8 by losing to UGA and beating UT, that leaves us tied with UT behind UGA and UF. In this case, UGA goes to the SEC championship game (with similar consequences as described for UF above) and UF goes to Capital One. I have little doubt that Outback would then choose us over UT.

Here's the link to BCS selection criteria. It's fun reading. http://www.bcsfootball.org/bcsfb/definition



Jim


I just don't get where you and RV are coming from that 8 wins gets us to Tampa, even given the scenario we lose to UGA and beat UT. UT is 4-2 in the conference, so if they beat Vandy and lose to us, they finish 5-3 in the SEC, while we are 4-4. Florida will also be 5-3, while Georgia will be 6-2. This places us 4th in the SEC East.

OK, Georgia loses to Tech, then to LSU in the SECC, while Florida loses to FSU. LSU is in the NC game with the rest locked out, since all remaining teams will have at least 4 losses.

I believe the Cotton will want the Bama/Aub winner. Therefore, Georgia, the loser of the SECC, will likely go to the Cap One.

Therefore, with only one BCS team, the Outback would have to skip two teams with better conference records to select us.

We need to beat Tennessee, have 2 teams make the BCS, and hope bowl officials pull another 1998 to make the Outback Bowl. Possible? Sure, but hardly a sure thing even with 8 wins.

[ShelbyvilleCathead]

Right now the BCS rankings are:

Georgia #9
Florida #12
Tennessee #20
Kentucky #23
Georgia Tech unranked
Florida State and Florida Atlantic unranked
Vanderbilt unranked.

If we win 9, UGA beats Ga Tech, UT beats Vandy, and UF beats both Fla Atlantic and FSU, then the final East standings are as follows:

UF 9-3/5-3 East Champion by virtue of beating UK
UK 9-3/5-3 Second by virtue of beating UT and UGA
UT 8-4/5-3 Third by virtue of beating UGA
UGA 9-3/5-3

If Florida beats LSU, both would get BCS bids and the following scenarios are irrelevant.

Given the above scenario if Florida loses to LSU in the SEC CG, the Gators would be 9-4 and slipping to around 12-15 in the BCS.

Georgia having lost to UK and beating an unranked GaTech would also fall to the 12-15 range.

Tennessee having lost to UK and beating an unranked Vandy would drop down to 25 or so.

UK having beaten #9 Georgia and top 25 Tennessee to finish out the season would easily jump into the top 15 and probably the top 12 AND be the second place team in the East AND have a better overall record than Florida. Ergo with it's legions of fans, would be highly attractive to the Sugar and within the listed criteria.
Have I ever told you I like the way you think.:icon_mrgreen: Didn't think we could still have the possibility of playing in a BCS game. I know the stars have to allign and come together, but atleast it is still possible.

[RV]

I just don't get where you and RV are coming from that 8 wins gets us to Tampa, even given the scenario we lose to UGA and beat UT. UT is 4-2 in the conference, so if they beat Vandy and lose to us, they finish 5-3 in the SEC, while we are 4-4. Florida will also be 5-3, while Georgia will be 6-2. This places us 4th in the SEC East.

OK, Georgia loses to Tech, then to LSU in the SECC, while Florida loses to FSU. LSU is in the NC game with the rest locked out, since all remaining teams will have at least 4 losses.

I believe the Cotton will want the Bama/Aub winner. Therefore, Georgia, the loser of the SECC, will likely go to the Cap One.

Therefore, with only one BCS team, the Outback would have to skip two teams with better conference records to select us.

We need to beat Tennessee, have 2 teams make the BCS, and hope bowl officials pull another 1998 to make the Outback Bowl. Possible? Sure, but hardly a sure thing even with 8 wins.

Bowls 'choose' their teams. They don't have to go by where you finish. Last year we finished ahead of Georgia but the Peach 'chose' them over us. The only criteria is you have to be within one game of the other teams eligible for that selection. Therefore we would have to be 8-4 to be considered if the other teams under consideration are 9-3. Also the Outback Chairman is a UK alum AND they know how many fans we would bring (50K). The main reason cities have bowls is economics.

Regardless, I believe the SEC will have two of the 10 teams in the BCS and that will move everyone up a notch. All we have to have is two teams in the top 14 of the BCS for that to happen and we may have as many as 4 when the dust settles.

[I. Melvin]

Bottom line is we need to win these games.

Beat UT at the very least ...