hopson???????????

[wildcat537]

has he signed or what.....i have read that he has and that he hasnt....if anyone knows please fill me in....he would look really good in blue and white

[matt57]

ok here is the latest....as of 9:22 est he has not signed. in an interview thursday his mom said he would sign friday. today @ noon she says that he will not sign. my advice is to just wait until you hear the hopson camp say that he will NOT be going to msu. once you hear that then you can get excited because we should be at the top of the list with G-tech and UT. there are a lot of factors @ play here and we will probably never understand them all, i doubt it's anything shady, i think it's just an overprotective parent who thinks she knows where her son needs to be.

[billoliver40]

There are not a lot of kids in the Western part of the state that are really hot on going to Kentucky.

Reasons?
Most kids from comparitively smaller towns (Hopkinsville, Owensboro, etc)
either are more comfortable at schools such as Western and Eastern Ky, or want a taste of life in Louisville.

Students from western Ky are continually overlooked by UK. It doesn't give a good feeling. (Ravi Moss, anyone)
Students from western Ky seldom have great careers at Kentucky. They have done well as college players at Vandy, Tennessee, and even St Johns, but for some reason not at UK.

There have been a few guys from the Hopkinsville area lately that really have had a tough time for one reason or another at Kentucky...Rick Ahrens and Curtis Pulley in football, J Carrier from Bowling Green...each situation had its own reasons, but when you don't have that success factor, interest fades.

[westtncat]

There are not a lot of kids in the Western part of the state that are really hot on going to Kentucky.

Reasons?
Most kids from comparitively smaller towns (Hopkinsville, Owensboro, etc)
either are more comfortable at schools such as Western and Eastern Ky, or want a taste of life in Louisville.

Students from western Ky are continually overlooked by UK. It doesn't give a good feeling. (Ravi Moss, anyone)
Students from western Ky seldom have great careers at Kentucky. They have done well as college players at Vandy, Tennessee, and even St Johns, but for some reason not at UK.

There have been a few guys from the Hopkinsville area lately that really have had a tough time for one reason or another at Kentucky...Rick Ahrens and Curtis Pulley in football, J Carrier from Bowling Green...each situation had its own reasons, but when you don't have that success factor, interest fades.
Where do you get that info? What would make a kid from western ky want to taste life in Lousiville over Lexington? Seem like a lot of guessing on how kids you dont know think. I am from western ky...maybe the talent hasnt been there or maybe they have been overlooked but i do know that in western ky the only school of choice is U.K. I dont know of anyone in this part of the state that would prefer eastern or western over U.K.?? Lousiville basically doesnt exist as far as most people here think. You dont have to take my word for it...im sure other fans from western ky will tell you the same thing. I dont know why you would single out western ky kids..we dont have many kids in the state from either end that attend U.K. In the end I think bigger cities provide more talent..for the most part KY is a rural state. Just less to choose from I would guess.

[JayB]

Loserville doesn't compare to Lexington life.

"Source" - Personal experience.- I've been there done both. Hated every min of Lovle, people are stuck up cocky about football too...

I am glad to hear that the GW T shirt Ricky P thing was a lie made up by the DUKE lovin weirdo !

[billoliver40]

Where do you get that info? What would make a kid from western ky want to taste life in Lousiville over Lexington? Seem like a lot of guessing on how kids you dont know think. I am from western ky...maybe the talent hasnt been there or maybe they have been overlooked but i do know that in western ky the only school of choice is U.K. I dont know of anyone in this part of the state that would prefer eastern or western over U.K.?? Lousiville basically doesnt exist as far as most people here think. You dont have to take my word for it...im sure other fans from western ky will tell you the same thing. I dont know why you would single out western ky kids..we dont have many kids in the state from either end that attend U.K. In the end I think bigger cities provide more talent..for the most part KY is a rural state. Just less to choose from I would guess.

I'm Sure you're right about the kids you know....just talking about some of the ones I've met...and you're also correct about not many UK players coming from in-state, but the largest percentage seem to be from the Eastern part of Kentucky. Also agreed on the poplulation piece of your post....lotsa fans were kind of worried about CBG seeming to spend a lot of time early on in the Houston area...but the fact is that particular city probably has as many BBall players as the whole state of Kentucky.
Great to read everyone's postings...love to hear different ideas.

[UKcat]

Loserville doesn't compare to Lexington life.

"Source" - Personal experience.- I've been there done both. Hated every min of Lovle, people are stuck up cocky about football too...

I am glad to hear that the GW T shirt Ricky P thing was a lie made up by the DUKE lovin weirdo !
They said on the t.v. coverage during the game that espn had confirmed, through GW that he did buy the t-shirts; is this not true, or did I miss something???

[nicholasvilleFAN]

Where do you get that info? What would make a kid from western ky want to taste life in Lousiville over Lexington? Seem like a lot of guessing on how kids you dont know think. I am from western ky...maybe the talent hasnt been there or maybe they have been overlooked but i do know that in western ky the only school of choice is U.K. I dont know of anyone in this part of the state that would prefer eastern or western over U.K.?? Lousiville basically doesnt exist as far as most people here think. You dont have to take my word for it...im sure other fans from western ky will tell you the same thing. I dont know why you would single out western ky kids..we dont have many kids in the state from either end that attend U.K. In the end I think bigger cities provide more talent..for the most part KY is a rural state. Just less to choose from I would guess.

I have to agree with the previous poster. I was born in Paducah, grew up in Eastern KY, lived in both Lexington and Louisville.

In general, KY is broken up into 3 sections, Lexington serves E KY. Cincy serves NKY, and Louisville serves W KY. Most folks from Western Kentucky view Louisville or Nashville as their travel destination for shopping, etc. Most of the TV coverage is focused from those areas.

By the way, one poster said that Louisville life doesnt compare to Lexington life, while I love Lexington, Louisville is much more of a city. It is much more of a college student friendly, kid friendly, and adult friendly city and Lexington cannot compare.

[westtncat]

I have to agree with the previous poster. I was born in Paducah, grew up in Eastern KY, lived in both Lexington and Louisville.

In general, KY is broken up into 3 sections, Lexington serves E KY. Cincy serves NKY, and Louisville serves W KY. Most folks from Western Kentucky view Louisville or Nashville as their travel destination for shopping, etc. Most of the TV coverage is focused from those areas.

By the way, one poster said that Louisville life doesnt compare to Lexington life, while I love Lexington, Louisville is much more of a city. It is much more of a college student friendly, kid friendly, and adult friendly city and Lexington cannot compare.
perhaps this is a differnt part of ky your talking about...where im from louisville and even nashville are too far to do any shopping. then again...i lived in the most western part of ky...any further and your in missouri. even hopkinsville is a bit from me. where im from boys dream of playing at u.k.

[JayB]

I have to agree with the previous poster. I was born in Paducah, grew up in Eastern KY, lived in both Lexington and Louisville.

In general, KY is broken up into 3 sections, Lexington serves E KY. Cincy serves NKY, and Louisville serves W KY. Most folks from Western Kentucky view Louisville or Nashville as their travel destination for shopping, etc. Most of the TV coverage is focused from those areas.

By the way, one poster said that Louisville life doesnt compare to Lexington life, while I love Lexington, Louisville is much more of a city. It is much more of a college student friendly, kid friendly, and adult friendly city and Lexington cannot compare.


Yeah........OK... ummmm NO.. Its not friendly....

[CatFanInTheBathtub]

I love my hometown, Louisville, I love Lexington, I thought this thread was about Scotty Hopson ????

[RaviMoss#1fan]

he was suppost to signed last nite friday nite at his Madness to welcome in the UHA Basketball season but didnt do it so all signed show he not going to signed with State he taking more time

[JayB]

I love my hometown, Louisville, I love Lexington, I thought this thread was about Scotty Hopson ????

Very True.

I don't know what to think about Hopson not signing, very weird. Can't wait to find out what happens tho.:icon_biggrin:

[billoliver40]

Very True.

I don't know what to think about Hopson not signing, very weird. Can't wait to find out what happens tho.:icon_biggrin:
Could be anything. Schools making big plays (I saw a quote of one coach who said he really didn't get after a kid until just after he announced and before he signed because then he knew what he had to compete against)

Friends and family might be working on SH to get him to consider someplace else.

Scotty H just enjoying the last chance to be the man in charge....after he signs the LOI, he's pretty much property of whoknowswho State U.

[KapitalCat]

Looking more and more like Hopson will wait until spring. Three major players at the moment, UK, Ga Tech and UofL...I suppose MSU may still be in the mix.

[BigBlueManiac]

They are most certainly waiting until the spring. What they aren't indicating is whether there are any other "players" (school wise) that are prompting this holdoff.

Rumors around the old home town for a long time have been he'd never play at MSU, but theres no indication what might be an alternative.

[wildcat537]

then we might still be in the mix

[atltoddy2]

I am from WKY and would love to see him in UK Blue.

[chworld22]

I have to agree with the previous poster. I was born in Paducah, grew up in Eastern KY, lived in both Lexington and Louisville.

In general, KY is broken up into 3 sections, Lexington serves E KY. Cincy serves NKY, and Louisville serves W KY. Most folks from Western Kentucky view Louisville or Nashville as their travel destination for shopping, etc. Most of the TV coverage is focused from those areas.

By the way, one poster said that Louisville life doesnt compare to Lexington life, while I love Lexington, Louisville is much more of a city. It is much more of a college student friendly, kid friendly, and adult friendly city and Lexington cannot compare.

I think you need to take a recent look around Lexington. I lived in Louisville for the first 22 years of my life and the last 4 in Lexington. While Louisville is much larger and therefore has certain things that Lexington doesn't. Lexington as far as college life kills Louisville! In Lexington you actually feel like you are in college instead of visiting it three or four times a week. The campuses themselves are not even close UK has a much much better campus when it comes to actual facilities as well as the beauty of it. Lexington has grown leaps and bounds over the last three to four years alone. This town is reaching out in every direction and it is only getting bigger. Louisville on the other hand has less growth and the only major thing they have added within the last few years besides sports fields for student and their entertainment is 4th street live.

All in all both have the pluses and minuses. But I think Lexington is much better college town so if you are comparing them in that way you would have to give Lex the edge.

[nicholasvilleFAN]

I think you need to take a recent look around Lexington. I lived in Louisville for the first 22 years of my life and the last 4 in Lexington. While Louisville is much larger and therefore has certain things that Lexington doesn't. Lexington as far as college life kills Louisville! In Lexington you actually feel like you are in college instead of visiting it three or four times a week. The campuses themselves are not even close UK has a much much better campus when it comes to actual facilities as well as the beauty of it. Lexington has grown leaps and bounds over the last three to four years alone. This town is reaching out in every direction and it is only getting bigger. Louisville on the other hand has less growth and the only major thing they have added within the last few years besides sports fields for student and their entertainment is 4th street live.

All in all both have the pluses and minuses. But I think Lexington is much better college town so if you are comparing them in that way you would have to give Lex the edge.

I love Lexington as well. And you are right, Lexington is more of a colege town, but I think Louisville has much more to offer. Just my opinion. No one has to agree.

[chworld22]

I love Lexington as well. And you are right, Lexington is more of a colege town, but I think Louisville has much more to offer. Just my opinion. No one has to agree.

I think it really depends on what you are looking for.

[ImForKy]

...apparently he's going to let mama decide. :icon_rolleyes: :shrug1:

On Saturday, Hopson didn't want to say a lot about his college situation.
“I did not sign,” Hopson said. “I really don’t want to talk about it right now. I'm letting my mom take care of a lot of it now. I am going to lay back and focus on basketball and school and let her take care of the college thing for me.”

http://www.courier-journal.com/blogs/demling/blog.html

[teamchemistry09]

Lets hope mama is a UK fan

[Wildcatcrazy11]

Lets hope mama is a UK fan

"That darn FOOOOOZEBALL IS THE DEVIL! Bobby, now I told ya UK is where your going to school ya hear?"

[teamchemistry09]

"That darn FOOOOOZEBALL IS THE DEVIL! Bobby, now I told ya UK is where your going to school ya hear?"

I wonder if hell be with mama and coach G at the same time

[JayB]

I wonder if hell be with mama and coach G at the same time

LOL

[JayB]

I thought the story was that he wanted UK and his mom didn't? I hope I'm wrong anyways.

[billoliver40]

I thought the story was that he wanted UK and his mom didn't? I hope I'm wrong anyways.
Latest word around the Hopkinsville rumor mill is that SH is pretty much keeping his own council about his decision. Probably safe to assume he's still serious about Miss State....and I would imagine UK would be an outside shot. Other rumor has it that Louisville's interest has reached the serious stage.
No real work if his mother "likes" UK or not, but the fact is that Kentucky did NOT show much more than a very light interest in Scotty H the past couple of years....blame who you want, for whatever reason...and that has left a bad feeling in the community.

[ImForKy]

.
No real work if his mother "likes" UK or not, but the fact is that Kentucky did NOT show much more than a very light interest in Scotty H the past couple of years....blame who you want, for whatever reason...and that has left a bad feeling in the community.

And Loserville did, I suppose?? :icon_rolleyes:

[BRN2BNK]

I'm starting to hear Hopson is a potential head case--we'd almost have to guaruntee a starting spot for him so he could bold to the NBA after year one. Is he that good? I'm not sure.

[RaviMoss#1fan]

im not sure he NBA JUST LETS he proved it in high school but he hasnt proved it in College Yet. Their only a few people i seen jump out of high school that was ready L. James and a guy name K.Bryant I dont see UK getting him i still believe he end up at Miss State.

[BRN2BNK]

You are just a western KY homer, like me. I understand your affinity. Anytime a kid asks for a two year plan, he's got some very different priorities from other normal kids that generally get recruited at UK. Having said that, I'm not sure he is a two year plan type of talent. Just my opinion though.

[wildcatcrazy]

In the interest of fairness, I am a Darius Miller fan--big time.

That said, I have seen Hopson play twice in the last week to ten days and there is NO WAY he goes to the NBA after one season in college.

He plays when he wants to---and while he has talent, that is a sign of immaturity.

Do not get me wrong--I hope he comes to UK--especially now that it appears Legion is toast (what is it with kids from Michigan (Crawford) and UK?????).

Trust me--Hopson may be "one and done" wherever he goes but unless he matures A BUNCH and plays hard every minute--he'll be "one and done" in the NBA as well.

Miller is much the better player at this point and I think Darius will stay four years.

[BRN2BNK]

I concur with you

[RaviMoss#1fan]

being from Hoptown Following Him since he been at UHA I dont see this guy a NBA player after TWO YEARS. Miss State just map that out to make him think he would be so they would get him. Patterson will be a NBA Star before Hopson that just what i think

[wildcatcrazy]

Ravi,

I totally agree:

1) I hope he comes to UK.

2) No way he goes to the NBA after 2 years unless his ability, attitude and effort improve by 1000 percent.

No shot at the kid--I've seen him twice in the last 10 days and he can play--but he has some growing up to do in a bunch of areas.

NBA ready--no way.

[BRN2BNK]

Thats my biggest problem. Good talent, too young in the mind. Thinks he is way too good.

[RaviMoss#1fan]

i seen two guys come staight from high school that ended up being the best and that Lebron James and Kobe Bryant. This guy wont be ready in Two Season and if he plays in the Sec for Miss State he sure wont get draft in the first round maybe if he went to Florida and Shine lol.

[ShelbyvilleCathead]

How big does Legion's decision effect Hopson? Anybody think this could help or hurt UK?

[RaviMoss#1fan]

i think Scotty is Miss State Bound Still dont matter what Alex does. He only two years and wants to go to the NBA and Miss State already done map his two years out and then hes gone.

[wildcatcrazy]

He better get a LOT better or he'll be playing pro ball in Italy in two years.

Not a shot at the kid--just an observation after watching him play twice in the last two weeks.

My suspecion is that he does not play hard all of the time but he can overcome that as he gets more mature. That said, Miller is (or at least was on that night) clearly a LOT better than Hopson.

Don't get me wrong, Hopson can play at UK right now.

[lribookend]

[quote=wildcatcrazy;358712]

Do not get me wrong--I hope he comes to UK--especially now that it appears Legion is toast (what is it with kids from Michigan (Crawford) and UK?????).
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Most on here are probably way too young to remember, but Bob Fowler, a highly regarded recruit from Detroit in the mid 1970's (had a 42 inch vertical leap, as I recall), left after his first semester at UK. I believe another recruit from Minnesota (don't recall his name) also left that same semester. Does anyone else remember?

[lribookend]

The kid from Minnesota was Pat something? Does anyone recall?

[countrycat]

[quote=wildcatcrazy;358712]

Do not get me wrong--I hope he comes to UK--especially now that it appears Legion is toast (what is it with kids from Michigan (Crawford) and UK?????).
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Most on here are probably way too young to remember, but Bob Fowler, a highly regarded recruit from Detroit in the mid 1970's (had a 42 inch vertical leap, as I recall), left after his first semester at UK. I believe another recruit from Minnesota (don't recall his name) also left that same semester. Does anyone else remember?

I rember Fowler. I believe he came in the same year as Kenny Walker, who could also jump a little.

[matt colvin]

[quote=lribookend;359317]

I rember Fowler. I believe he came in the same year as Kenny Walker, who could also jump a little.

Fowler's first and only season as a Cat was '76. Sky's first was '83

[wildcatcrazy]

Wow--some of us are way too old.

First kid with a 40 inch verical leap that I can remember----and he couldn't drop it in the bucket from that high!

[lribookend]

Wow--some of us are way too old.

First kid with a 40 inch verical leap that I can remember----and he couldn't drop it in the bucket from that high!

Shooting was definitely not his forte, LOL. I always wonder how things turn out for players who left UK. It would make a great book......players who transferred from UK.......what happened next?

[countrycat]

My memory is in bad shape. I meant Mr. James Lee. Thanks foe the correction.

[countrycat]

Sorry about the mixup. My memory is really bad. Lets try James Lee.

[DonnieKat]

Um, back to Hopson. A very reputable poster on another board says that Hopson to UK is looking very good. Great news!!!

[SouthsideBlue]

Whats up Big Blue nation I'm new to the WCN and I'm trying to get over the IU game. Hopson would be great playing next to PP, does anyone know if Darius is trying to get him on board? Does anyone know the status of Chad Jackson from Rose Hill?

[BlueheartMattB]

The kid from Minnesota was Pat something? Does anyone recall?

Here's a list of transfers from UK: http://www.bigbluehistory.net/bb/Statistics/playertransferfromuk.html

[lribookend]

Here's a list of transfers from UK: http://www.bigbluehistory.net/bb/Statistics/playertransferfromuk.html

Wow, the list is longer than I realized. Thanks for sharing the link!

[ibleedblue2]

There are a number of schools lokking to land him.I hope Darius can have a little influence on him to sign w/ U.K. He is aphenomenal athlete.

[CatClaws1]

Just read on KSR that Coach Billy G has been in contact with him and that the recent struggles of the program don't effect him and his decision making at all

[Tom Blevins]

[quote=wildcatcrazy;358712]

Do not get me wrong--I hope he comes to UK--especially now that it appears Legion is toast (what is it with kids from Michigan (Crawford) and UK?????).
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Most on here are probably way too young to remember, but Bob Fowler, a highly regarded recruit from Detroit in the mid 1970's (had a 42 inch vertical leap, as I recall), left after his first semester at UK. I believe another recruit from Minnesota (don't recall his name) also left that same semester. Does anyone else remember?

I remember Bob Fowler. He stayed for his entire freshman year, as I recall. He transfered to Iowa State when Lynn Nance, the assistant who recruited him, took a job as the head coach there. Bobby jumped center for us in overtime of the last men's varsity game ever in Memorial Coliseum. Mike Phillips, our starting center, had been thrown out of the game durring regulation. I don't remember if Fowler got the tip, but Kentucky won the game, defeating Mississippi State 94-93.

[Tom Blevins]

My memory is in bad shape. I meant Mr. James Lee. Thanks foe the correction.

Actually, Janes Lee's first season was even earlier, 1975. Don't feel like the lone ranger, though. I don't remember who we recruited the same year as Kenny Walker. Possibly Todd May, but I'm not sure. There have just been too many recruits over two many years for me to remember them all.

[Colonel-Catfan]

Todd May did come in with Sky Walker, and as I recall was often subbed into the game before Walker. I played against Todd in HS, and oflten wonder "What if he had stayed?"

[ibleedblue2]

It looks as though our team's struggles right now would lure Hopson our way even more. He could come in and be a star at once.

[billoliver40]

It looks as though our team's struggles right now would lure Hopson our way even more. He could come in and be a star at once.

Or....he could be Alex Legion again. Scotty has had a history with discipline problems in basketball (This is not a knock, it's just a fact.) I'm not talking trouble with the law or at home.... from what I've heard he's a pretty good kid...he has just been so far ahead of most players his age group that he succeeds by pretty much doing his own thing.

I just have concerns about how he would react in a system where there is a premium put on discipline and a team first no matter what concept.

Good luck to the young man wherever he ends up.

[countrycat]

I just have concerns about how he would react in a system where there is a premium put on discipline and a team first no matter what concept.


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This is something everyone has to accept out of HS. Legoin refused to grow up and accept the hard work IMO.

[Catdaddy]

Todd May did come in with Sky Walker, and as I recall was often subbed into the game before Walker. I played against Todd in HS, and oflten wonder "What if he had stayed?"

Todd May was the best HS player I ever saw, to this day he is unbelievable in old man leagues, happy as he can be. A lot of people just don't have the want to that others have, not saying that's bad, but I wish I had been born with the gifts Todd was given.

[ibleedblue2]

an All-American. I would really like to see him wearing the Blue and White. From what I have seen, Coach doesn't allow any one player to shine. When you have a star guys, you need to let him have his moments on the court. Yes, they have to play team ball, but if they can exploit a matchup then let them go. Hopson is without a doubt a star. I just don't know if he will be allowed to shine under BCG.What do you guys think?:widcat:

[billoliver40]

an All-American. I would really like to see him wearing the Blue and White. From what I have seen, Coach doesn't allow any one player to shine. When you have a star guys, you need to let him have his moments on the court. Yes, they have to play team ball, but if they can exploit a matchup then let them go. Hopson is without a doubt a star. I just don't know if he will be allowed to shine under BCG.What do you guys think?:widcat:

You could be right. I disagree in a way, though....Acie Law is a wealthy young man today because he DID shine while working BGs system.

I will agree that individual play is entertaining at times. But it can also be distressing when that big ol' star doesn't shine so bright some days.

I just have a real sinking feeling that if Scotty Hopson comes to UK, there will be the same troubles as Alex Legion....and to boot, I had never even HEARD of Alex Legion being a problem.

I really feel that the best place for SH is somewhere else. If it's Tennessee or Louisville or Mississippi State, God love 'im....
my opinion (along with a dollar for a cuppa coffee) is SH will not be a fit for Billy Gillispie and the Kentucky Wildcats.

Sooooo...he'll probably light us up for 40 twice a year for about 3 years.