Kansas over Mizzou??

[nwmn9386]

I don't understand this. The final BCS rankings have Mizzou higher than Kansas, yet Kansas gets the bid? How is that? I'm not arguing, just want to know how they did that.

[catlovercardhater]

Yea... this was retarded. I guess this reaffirms the fact that losing your conference champ. game is worse than not even playing in it.....thats a load of crap. Some conferences don't even play in one.

[The Old School JPS]

Someone posted in another thread that Kansas' strength of schedule was 109 out of 119.

If your SOS is 109 out of 119 you should not even get to go to a 2nd tier bowl like the Cotton, much less a BCS bowl.

Kansas played one worthy opponent all season: Missouri. And Missouri beat them like a drum. Missouri goes 11-2 because they play and lose two times to the #3 team in the country (Oklahoma); Kansas goes 11-1 playing no one and gets to go to a BCS game ahead of a team that clearly proved two weeks ago that it was obviously superior to Kansas? That is a ripoff.

It's becoming that everything that ought to earn merit (playing tough opponents, playing a conference championship game, playing in a tough conference) becomes an obstacle to being treated as a good football team, and all the things that are hallmarks of weaklings who are pretenders (playing pathetic schedules, avoiding difficult teams, playing in a weak conference, having no conference championship game) become pluses in terms of getting a BCS bid.

They should penalize teams from conferences that do not have a championship game, among other things.

I guess though that we now have a precedent that not winning your conference or even your division should not be a bar to going to a BCS bowl. If that's the case, they probably should have an automatic BCS bid for the 2nd place team in the SEC East. Better that team than, say, Hawaii . . .

At any rate, is the Orange Bowl fixated on producing the worst possible BCS bowl every year, or what? Taking Kansas is a joke. Last year they had Wake Forest and Louisville. Penn State vs. Oklahoma after the 2005 season ended up being a close, exciting game, but few were excited about it beforehand. The year before that they left out an undefeated Auburn team in order to have Oklahoma get smoked, 55-19, in the putative national championship game. Going back, I think the last time they put together a good, interesting matchup for the Orange Bowl was Oklahoma vs. Florida State after the 2000 season.

[cumberlandredskin]

I agree Kansas over Missouri was bad. Missouri is a much better team,IMO. The other BCS team I don't get is Illinois. I haven't heard much about this pick. But how did they get in? Was it because they were the next Big Ten team in line since Ohio State went to the championship game? I was really hoping the Rose Bowl would be USC vs Oklahoma. That would have been a fantastic matchup. But this is college football and we can't have that in the bowls.

[Doug Hardin]

This is beyond the canned, "Oh my God can you believe how stupid the BCS is" outrage we hear every year. For that kind of thing, everyone's entitled to an opinion.

But this isn't a matter of "I think this team is better" vs. "No, I think that team is better." There is an objective, irrefutable argument that Missouri was more deserving than Kansas. The only possible objective line of thinking I can come up with is that Kansas had one loss, whereas Missouri had two. I think that's the biggest flaw (examining number of losses more than number of quality wins) in the system, but that's for another post.

But seriously, how does a lower-ranked team get an invitation over a team from the same conference that beat said lower-ranked team only two weeks ago? What is the justification that the Orange Bowl/BCS Committee is using?

[RCS]

The Rose gives strong preference to Big 10 and Pac 10 teams. If the #1 team is in the BCS CG they will almost always take the second team even if their are most deserving teams.
The Big 12's problem is that they were very top heavy. They had 3 teams with 2 or less losses. It is rediculous that Missouri was left out, but it also would have been crazy for Kansas to be left out with an 11-1 record. It probably would have been the only 1 loss BCS team to ever be left out of the BCS(or did that happen to Wisc last year?)

[RV]

Once the top two teams are determined by the BCS that's it. The other BCS bowls are not bound by rankings in any way. They can choose who they like as they go through their pecking order. While I agree that Missouri got hosed their being left out was due to the preference of the Orange bowl - not any conspiracy by the BCS.

[The Old School JPS]

Maybe the Orange Bowl people were pleased with having the least watched BCS bowl in history last year when Wake Forest and Louisville played, and decided to try to beat their own record by inviting Kansas.

[bleedbluelady]

Maybe the Orange Bowl people were pleased with having the least watched BCS bowl in history last year when Wake Forest and Louisville played, and decided to try to beat their own record by inviting Kansas.

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[surveyor]

Missouri got shafted to say the least.