Alex Legion Transferring per Fox Sports

[Cooter74]

Said it had nothing to do with playing time but rather his relationship with Billy Clyde. If you ask me Alex had aspirations of being a star on the team and his ego could not handle Billy Clyde being so demanding.

[crazzedcats22]

http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/7522442

Holy crap....this is a big mess up on Billy G's part....this is not good IMO. Things are starting awfully ugly got Billy. You make it work with guys of his caliber. I'm not liking what I am hearing about Billy G. Players not liking him, issues with Mitch, issues with UK...this is making us look bad!!

[RaviMoss#1fan]

that sucks Alex Legion would of been a star at uk

[matt colvin]

:shock::icon_evil:

[m0fats]

You make it work with guys of his caliber.

I couldn't disagree more. It's that kind of attitude that leads to selfish players messing up a game plan for an entire team. I wish it would have worked, but if he can't buy into the system then he can't play.

[lighthouse]

I hate to hear this news. Legion is a great talent, and will miss a good career with UK. This makes 2 teams he has committed to and left, not a good record.

[crazzedcats22]

I hate to hear this news. Legion is a great talent, and will miss a good career with UK. This makes 2 teams he has committed to and left, not a good record.

Easy there...he left Michigan because they fired the coach that recruited him. He is leaving UK because billy G can't/doesn't want to get along with him. I thought everyone said the days of players transfering were over?!?!?!

[RaviMoss#1fan]

i havent heard nothing beside that fox sports reported maybe billy G can explain tonite on his show that would be a great lost and then With Carter leaving we slim on the beach until we get Jasper and Meeks back Rough year going to be for the Basketball glad we still got football

[wildcat74]

Its a shame that a player wouln't give it more than 6 weeks to make a decision like this. Just confirms that primadonna players want instant gratification without hard work. Good luck alex.

[lighthouse]

Easy there...he left Michigan because they fired the coach that recruited him. He is leaving UK because billy G can't/doesn't want to get along with him. I thought everyone said the days of players transfering were over?!?!?!

Facts are facts and reasons are reasons. He made 2 commitments and didn't honor them. I hope he changes his mind.

[BowlingGreenUKGrad]

Easy there...he left Michigan because they fired the coach that recruited him. He is leaving UK because billy G can't/doesn't want to get along with him. I thought everyone said the days of players transfering were over?!?!?!

And this isn't even a Tubby-recruited player. That's the most troubling thing.

[SouthBeachWildcat]

Its a shame that a player wouln't give it more than 6 weeks to make a decision like this. Just confirms that primadonna players want instant gratification without hard work. Good luck alex.

I won't go as far as caling him a primadonna, but he definitely should give it more of a chance than 6 games.

[crazzedcats22]

And this isn't even a Tubby-recruited player. That's the most troubling thing.

I agree, an occasional transfer (ala a Carter type player, etc...) is expected and understood. A transfer of a top player, top ranked recruit in your first year at the helm can only lead to trouble in recruiting later.

[RaleighCat]

Like all things this story is going to have multiple angles to consider:

Legion bolted on Michigan before coming to UK.

It's obvious he's not happy sitting for most of the UNG game- who would be?

Reminds me of Joe Crawford's early unhappiness. Crawford's family came down to the UNC game his freshmen season and he didn't play much. Almost packed up and went home with them. The coincidences are scary.

BCG is down to one single recruit of his own (Patterson). Maybe he took Legion too quickly just to get some positive momentum going? Maybe he's really not the Gillispie-kind of player? Who knows at this point.

Very frustrating to hear this, especially if it's all true. Legion is a special talent who just needs to settle into being part of a team. He's good, but not that good right now. I'd rather see him ride it out because there is a place for him in our lineup.

[KY Native in IN]

well, it's not the end of the world....if he doesn't want to fit in at UK and work with the coach...then adios amigo...

this players running the show and not following the coach's lead is wrong....i don't care how "good" or "talented" a player is if they feel it's "their" team and they know what's best, i'm sorry, the coach is the coach, HE is in charge...and i think we all know Coach G abides by this rule....the players may run the show in the pros, but not in college, i don't care if you're michael jordan or lebron james caliber, you do what the coach wants you to do....

i think we all saw transfers coming with Coach G being as hardcore as he is...let's face it some people just don't wanna work that hard, they want a national championship and being a first round draft pick dumped in their lap for free....

so i guess Coach G is on the crap list now with everybody....he got him here, if he's not going to WORK under Coach G, then what else can you do?...

if this is 100% factual that is....

[crazzedcats22]

well, it's not the end of the world....if he doesn't want to fit in at UK and work with the coach...then adios amigo...

this players running the show and not following the coach's lead is wrong....i don't care how "good" or "talented" a player is if they feel it's "their" team and they know what's best, i'm sorry, the coach is the coach, HE is in charge...and i think we all know Coach G abides by this rule....the players may run the show in the pros, but not in college, i don't care if you're michael jordan or lebron james caliber, you do what the coach wants you to do....

i think we all saw transfers coming with Coach G being as hardcore as he is...let's face it some people just don't wanna work that hard, they want a national championship and being a first round draft pick dumped in their lap for free....

so i guess Coach G is on the crap list now with everybody....he got him here, if he's not going to WORK under Coach G, then what else can you do?

if this is 100% factual that is....

I would agree that we saw transfers, but not from the players HE BROUGHT IN!!!! Everyone on here is blaming Legion for not adapting/conforming to Billy G, how do we know it's not more on Billy G?

[KY Native in IN]

i justhtink Coach G is old school....you work, you work as hard as you can and you get what you work for...i.e. playing time, etc....if you're not cutting it he's going ot tell you, he's not going to molley coddle the tender sensitive
youth of today and their massive egos....i'm sure it's not the first recruit to bolt from the coach that recruited them....

let's remember, teenagers can be awfully fickle...and Coach G doesn't seem to tolerate much of that mess....get in there, get tough or get out of the way...

[RaleighCat]

I would agree that we saw transfers, but not from the players HE BROUGHT IN!!!! Everyone on here is blaming Legion for not adapting/conforming to Billy G, how do we know it's not more on Billy G?

We don't. But like I said, maybe BCG rushed to sign Legion without really checking him out. It happened very quickly as I recall and I don't know if Legion was being recruited by Gillispie while at TX A&M.

If he really doesn't want to be in Lexington it's better to let him go. We don't need a devisive attitude in the locker room. This might also give Coach Gillispie some perspective for the future as well. You can learn something from every situation if you allow yourself to.

[Craig the Blueheart]

Simply put, this is really disappointing news. Legion was one of the biggest bright spots on this team, but now he is gone. If you remember, he was a big reason that the BG honeymoon was so incredible; we all operated under the assumption that this would be how UK would work after years of recruiting lulls. I hope this is an aberration.

[westtncat]

I would agree that we saw transfers, but not from the players HE BROUGHT IN!!!! Everyone on here is blaming Legion for not adapting/conforming to Billy G, how do we know it's not more on Billy G?
why would coach g do something to distance legion? coach g has coached for a little while...please lets dont question coach g here..thats where these kids get the big heads. legion played some..hes a freshman still learning..for whatever reason hes gone..coach g is the last person i will blame. i cant believe an 18 year old kid is put on the same level as a coach? coach knows best..lets trust him. he played the same 5 players last year most of the time...so i dont believe he plays mind games i just believe he plays who he feels gives the effort he demands. also..whos to say legion isnt just home sick..could be that simple

[MudCat]

I would agree that we saw transfers, but not from the players HE BROUGHT IN!!!! Everyone on here is blaming Legion for not adapting/conforming to Billy G, how do we know it's not more on Billy G?

I'm not "blaming" anyone necessarily, but the bottom line is there are two positions on a team like this:

-Player(s)
-Coach

Since he's the only one who's said to be transferring, I think you have to give the coach the benefit of the doubt to this point.

Again, taking into account the previous information regarding Joe Crawford, and we're only six games into the season, I'm leaning toward he's not happy, for whatever reason, but they're his reasons.

Also, back to my original point: IMO, it's not the Coach's job to conform to the players, it's the other way around.

What's that line from the movie 'Crimson Tide'?: "We're here to preserve democracy, not practice it." (I think it was 'Crimson Tide'.)

That's the way I look at it.

Besides, as far as discipline goes (if that is the issue), wouldn't you think A.J. Stewart would have a bigger gripe? Not so much for getting benched for sleeping in a meeting, but being basically thrown to the media to explain it?

(I didn't have a problem with that, either, but seems to me that would be more bruising to a kid's ego.)

Anyway, just a thought.

[matt colvin]

We don't know anything yet. Someone mentioned Crawford. Might end up the same way here before it's over. i hope Coach will shed some light on it at 6:00, but I doubt it will happen.

Not a good at all though given our current roster situation.

[chworld22]

Easy there...he left Michigan because they fired the coach that recruited him. He is leaving UK because billy G can't/doesn't want to get along with him. I thought everyone said the days of players transfering were over?!?!?!

Billy G doesn't have to get along with anyone! That is not a coachs job his job is to coach not to attend to these players ego's or make them feel better. They are young men not babies if you want to be babied go somewhere else this isn't the school for you.

Personally I hate to see him leave because he great talent! But, if he can't get a long with our coach then let him leave!

[bowpro]

I wouldnt just assume that FOX has the story right just yet. There might not even be a story. I am sure that BCG will shed some light on this tonight.

[AugustaDan]

Said it had nothing to do with playing time but rather his relationship with Billy Clyde. If you ask me Alex had aspirations of being a star on the team and his ego could not handle Billy Clyde being so demanding.
Seemingly, every single thing about Legion's recruiting saga was impulsive. This doesn't seem out of character.

[surveyor]

Well, assuming the story IS correct, big deal.

Sure, it's dissapointing, but it's a two way street - and the coach STILL DOES call the shots, no?

I'm not getting all worked up just because some kid may have been mad that the new coach ain't gonna smooch his arse or coddle him.

Coach G has stated on his radio program that everyone starts anew/clean slate with him. That goes for starts, playing minutes, etc.

[WildcatMountaineer]

This isn't good - considering this was BCG's recruit.

But, maybe Legion sees the writing on the wall.


Liggins + Miller + Hopson = no PT for Legion.


We'll be fine.

[matt57]

listen, i was as excited by this kids talent and potential as much as anyone. but, let's be real. he's been associated with UK for what now, 6 months???? if he's giving up already than maybe it's best we wave bye to him. i really like the kid and hope he finds a better situation for him. but, for a player whose myspace page said he was going to be in the league in two years, he sure did give up pretty quickly. also, there could be tons of other factors at play here. i've mentioned it before and it still holds true. i'm totally confident in BCG's ability to make this his team. let us also take the lone silver lining from this cloud. this could be all the motivation mr. scotty hopson needs to be swayed from msu to uk.

[ukbob]

I think he is just the 1st to do this, IMO.

I have felt for a while there would be transfer(s), but I did not think it would be him.

You cannot spin this situation in a positive light at all.

Billy has his work cut out for him on many levels, IMO.

[KY Native in IN]

2 words, Patrick Patterson....this guy has impressed me WAAAAYYYY more than Legion....not that Legion is without talent....but i think Patterson is gonna be a major mover and shaker for the Cats, just like Jodie when he gets his health back....Lord willing he'll be here all 4 years, but we'll see....

transfers....if they wanna go let 'em...it only hurts us if they stay

with Coach G at the helm i think the future is very bright and we'll see some nets come down

[Terry623]

http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/7522442

Holy crap....this is a big mess up on Billy G's part....this is not good IMO. Things are starting awfully ugly got Billy. You make it work with guys of his caliber. I'm not liking what I am hearing about Billy G. Players not liking him, issues with Mitch, issues with UK...this is making us look bad!!

A big mess up on Coach G's part??? What players dislike him and your source? Further, I didn't know the coach was there to be the players' best friend. I sure don't think my boss is my best friend yet he has made me better at what I do. It's widely reported Coach G has not signed a contract yet but what other issues are there with Mith, with UK and your source for documenting these issues?

One player is reported as transferring and it's time to take the Coach to task. Please.

[westtncat]

http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/7522442

Holy crap....this is a big mess up on Billy G's part....this is not good IMO. Things are starting awfully ugly got Billy. You make it work with guys of his caliber. I'm not liking what I am hearing about Billy G. Players not liking him, issues with Mitch, issues with UK...this is making us look bad!!
I just cant believe this whole post! unbelieveable!! You make it work?? the player makes it work or not..not vice versa...

[surveyor]

I can imagine certain players at ANY school would dislike such a regiment that they wouldn't voluntarily choose for themselves.......................

I wunner how many folks liked "Gunny Highway" at the onset, lol. :icon_lol:

[crazzedcats22]

A big mess up on Coach G's part??? What players dislike him and your source? Further, I didn't know the coach was there to be the players' best friend. I sure don't think my boss is my best friend yet he has made me better at what I do. It's widely reported Coach G has not signed a contract yet but what other issues are there with Mith, with UK and your source for documenting these issues?

One player is reported as transferring and it's time to take the Coach to task. Please.

I love it...some of the people on here are hilarious!!!! When players transfered when Tubby was the coach it was always his fault. Now a player transfers when Billy G is the coach and it is the player's fault. Comical!

[catlovercardhater]

While I think BCG is a GREAT coach, and has a great work ethic.... I think he is like a boss that you just DON'T want to work for.... that only cares about the job, and does not really care what others or his employees ( in this case his players) think of him. I think BCG needs to work on his PR skills a little more. I'm not saying he should be as nice as Tubby..... but I am saying that he needs to be a bit more understanding and kind to people.
I have noticed on the call in show... BCG only wants to talk about what he feels is necessary...everything else he will be frank with you and say... I'm not going to answer this question, or he will say, no you are wrong, and I'm right... there is no gray area. If he coaches like he treats people on the call in show sometimes... I could see how it would be hard to work for BCG.

I have a feeling BCG is just going to do his normal thing tonight on the call-in show and NOT talk about the Legion situation. I hope to god though we can still work something out with him. He is a great talent, and we REALLY need him now.

[crazzedcats22]

I just cant believe this whole post! unbelieveable!! You make it work?? the player makes it work or not..not vice versa...

are you serious??? How many times have you seen a coach run out of town because he can't get a long with certain players?

[leroybyrd]

I love it...some of the people on here are hilarious!!!! When players transfered when Tubby was the coach it was always his fault. Now a player transfers when Billy G is the coach and it is the player's fault. Comical!

I agree, very comical. Also, agree with Bob above, you cannot spin this in a positive light at all. This looks very bad for Billy G. and those that said our program would be set way back if Tubby were run off are proving to be right in the short term.

[westtncat]

are you serious??? How many times have you seen a coach run out of town because he can't get a long with certain players?
honest answer??? never..maybe something similar in the nba but we are talking about an 18 year old kid...does billy g have a history of this...we have played 6 games...

[crazzedcats22]

honest answer??? never..maybe something similar in the nba but we are talking about an 18 year old kid...does billy g have a history of this...we have played 6 games...

again, I'll just say it's funny that people were all over Tubby when a player transfered, and now that the savior, Billy G, has someone transfer it's all the players doing....funny stuff!!!

I think it has to do with the fact the coaches will say anything and lie their asses off to get a kid to go to a school, and maybe Legion called him on it and wasn't happy with what he was told a few months ago and what is happening present day.

[ukwebfan]

And this isn't even a Tubby-recruited player. That's the most troubling thing.We have a winner for the most ridiculous Tubby bashing post yet. Ever think maybe, just maybe it has more to do with 18 or 19 year-old ego's than the credentials of 2 highly respected coaches?

[MudCat]

again, I'll just say it's funny that people were all over Tubby when a player transfered, and now that the savior, Billy G, has someone transfer it's all the players doing....funny stuff!!!

I can't speak for anyone else, but the way I look at it is that if a player decides to transfer, it's ultimately the player's decision/responsibility.

(Edit: Obviously, that's not always the case, but I stand by that being the rule and not the exception.)

[westtncat]

I agree, very comical. Also, agree with Bob above, you cannot spin this in a positive light at all. This looks very bad for Billy G. and those that said our program would be set way back if Tubby were run off are proving to be right in the short term.
oh my gosh..im not believing this...anyone remember caruth? i think certain kids cant get along with certain styles...coach g has alot of kids on the team that havent gone anywhere.

[Terry623]

I love it...some of the people on here are hilarious!!!! When players transfered when Tubby was the coach it was always his fault. Now a player transfers when Billy G is the coach and it is the player's fault. Comical!

I was a fan of Tubby but felt his leaving was best for the program and for Tubby. I still do.

But, I find posts such as your original post to be careless as it fans a flame that many times does not exist. So, I'll ask you a second time, what other players have a problem, and outside of an executed contract what problem exists between Coach G and Mitch and the University?:shrug1:

[WildcatMountaineer]

Calm down folks.


A kid transferred because he didn't like the coach.


The sky is not falling

[KY Native in IN]

billy gillispie is the ultimate hard a** ....he's not going to take crap from anyone let alone a wishy washy freshman....and that's just as it should be....

what would Adolph Rupp do with some of these primadonna ball players we have these days?

we don't need a wimpy coach anymore than we need a freshman that don't wanna be here....GO COACH G!!!!!

[Gunsmoke]

Everyone go back and re-read all of the articles from Coach Gillispie's former players and other proven coaches and find out what they have to say about him. Then try to find fault in the way the man coaches. He has coached this way everywhere with success and comes with the highest of recommendations from top coaches and his players loved him. If Legion can't cut it, or anyone else for that matter, then hit the road jack and don't let the door hit you on the __ on the way out.

[Craig the Blueheart]

Here is a note to everyone: this thread is headed in a really awful direction. We need to stay the course and discuss rather than calling out individuals for their posts.

[John Clay Rice Jr.]

We do need a shooter and Legion is a great one.

[ukwebfan]

I think he is like a boss that you just DON'T want to work for.... that only cares about the job, and does not really care what others or his employees ( in this case his players) think of him. I think BCG needs to work on his PR skills a little more. I'm not saying he should be as nice as Tubby..... but I am saying that he needs to be a bit more understanding and kind to people.Looks like we've come full-circle. Maybe if Tubby's dad had offspring with Billy's mom. Nah! We probably wouldn't like that coach either. :vbg:

[crazzedcats22]

I was a fan of Tubby but felt his leaving was best for the program and for Tubby. I still do.

But, I find posts such as your original post to be careless as it fans a flame that many times does not exist. So, I'll ask you a second time, what other players have a problem, and outside of an executed contract what problem exists between Coach G and Mitch and the University?:shrug1:


You answered your own question on this one!

I agree Tubby's leaving was best for UK, I was just pointing out the hipocracy that exists between what Tubby did and what Billy G is doing.

[catlovercardhater]

We need him this year... bottom line... or we will be lucky to make it in the NIT...especially if we dont see meeks or jasper.

[westtncat]

Calm down folks.


A kid transferred because he didn't like the coach.


The sky is not falling
excatly! :thumbup:

[BrassowFan]

Let's face it, this doesn't mean we should cancel the season but it does shorten the honeymoon a bit for BCG. There is a lot of smoke around the program right now.. hopefully that's just old dust blowing out with the winds of change... we'll all know in good time.

[catmandoo025]

This is not good IMO.

Now there is a certain contention in some of these posts that suggests that a coach need not take any crap off of a player and doesn't need or have to be liked by his players. That is correct to certain poiint. I really feel that the players need to respect and like a coach to give full effort for that coach. I have played for coaches which the players did not like to be around and that is nothing but a cancer for cohesiveness. Coaches are NOT dictators, they are leaders. Now I have no clue what is going on behind closed doors, but Legion's transfer is a bad thing.

I do not believe a coach should never stroke a player's ego or make unnecessary accomodations. One thing that they should know however is how to relate and know which buttons to push to get max effort. IMO BCG has pushed the wrong buttons on a very talented player. Any normal player doesn't want to sit out a year for tranffering, so Legion must have been VERY unhappy. Not BCG's fault, but it's scary given our situation is already not good right now.

[Gunsmoke]

Disciplining the undisciplined always come with repercutions. People start falling by the wayside. This program needed discipline from the top down or we will not reach the heights we so aspire to. Success isn't just handed to you. It comes with hard work, huge demands and high expectations. Conform to the plan or don't. It is sometimes just that simple.

[matt57]

you guys really crack me up. ok lets look at this from another sport's angle. let's say it's a boxing match. cue mike buffer:

and in this corner:
-3 time big12 coach of the year
-man responsible for taking an unhappy acie law and making him into a first round draft pick
-coach who has been prasied be several former players and even the coach who took his old job who thanked him for leaving a PROGRAM behind
-coach who has engineered 2 remarkable turnarounds at UTEP and a&m

and in this corner:
-18 year old 4* shooting guard
-player who aspires to be in the NBA in 2 years
-player who was averaging 17 minutes a game and still unhappy

so, who you got???? i know who i'm laying my money down on.

[CaliUKFan]

maybe this decision (if true) raises an eyebrow (so to speak) for Hopson thus causing him to move away from Miss State to UK.

[Coldstream]

Hate to see Legion leave but if that is the case, so be it. This opens the door wide-open for Hopson. A KY boy should understand the KY tradition better than anyone else.

[Gunsmoke]

maybe this decision (if true) raises an eyebrow (so to speak) for Hopson thus causing him to move away from Miss State to UK.
Possibly the silver lining to the proverbial cloud.:shrug1:

[Terry623]

You answered your own question on this one!

I agree Tubby's leaving was best for UK, I was just pointing out the hipocracy that exists between what Tubby did and what Billy G is doing.

No, I don't think I did. I went back to your original post and you stated " Players not liking him, issues with Mitch, issues with UK...this is making us look bad!!" This states issues, more than one with Mitch and the same thing with UK. Players, more than one, don't like him.

I simply want you to support your post or agree that Coach G may have lost a player today and has not signed a contract (that we know of.)

[surveyor]

I love it...some of the people on here are hilarious!!!! When players transfered when Tubby was the coach it was always his fault. Now a player transfers when Billy G is the coach and it is the player's fault. Comical!

I agree, very comical. Also, agree with Bob above, you cannot spin this in a positive light at all. This looks very bad for Billy G. and those that said our program would be set way back if Tubby were run off are proving to be right in the short term.

While it may be comical with regard to the fans who've changed their opinions of player transfers under Tubby and under Gillispie, I've always felt that it's NOT the coaches fault (regardless of who the coach is).
The player makes his decision to come or not to a school based on things that are general public knowledge and things known only to him, his family and/or the coach.

By the way, which posters hereon are being "hypocritical" in your eyes regarding transfers situations under Smith and Gillispie?
Or is it merely a generalization with no proof as to whether ANY posters hereon held contrasting sentiments in that regard?:confused:

[matt57]

ok, more to the story coming out now. per matt jones on his radio show, legion's mother was rather vocal saturday at the game about PT. so, maybe we're looking at an overprotective parent as well. this is also the women who "prophecized" a final four this year.

[westtncat]

again, I'll just say it's funny that people were all over Tubby when a player transfered, and now that the savior, Billy G, has someone transfer it's all the players doing....funny stuff!!!

I think it has to do with the fact the coaches will say anything and lie their asses off to get a kid to go to a school, and maybe Legion called him on it and wasn't happy with what he was told a few months ago and what is happening present day.
I don't agree with this post...first off...why are you even bringing tubby into this..nothing whatsoever to do with one single thing here.. you think it has to do with the FACT??? you shouldnt even be allowed to say that! so you know whats going on? if your aware of this fact please fill us all in a little more...what was legion told?

[SouthBeachWildcat]

I have an idea, how about we wait until we get the official word from UK and Gillispie before we dawg the kid and coach anymore

[Terry623]

Hate to see Legion leave but if that is the case, so be it. This opens the door wide-open for Hopson. A KY boy should understand the KY tradition better than anyone else.


True. I'm curious if the coaching staff's recent visit to watch Hopson play had an impact on young Mr. Legion?!

[FCFS82]

Could there have been a personal issue about the coach and the player?

Interesting.

[lribookend]

I'll wait to hear if the rumors are true or false. All I can say is that I was very surprised when Legion was quoted (before the season began) as saying he was "dominating" some of the summer pick-up games with his new teammates, and was often "the best player out there". As I recall, he also said he hoped he would start even as a freshman. It sounded to me like he had extremely high aspirations, and a very high opinion of his skills and ablity. Those comments worried me at the time, (although several posters - you know who you are - said they welcomed a player with such an attitude if he could back it up). I was a little horrified, myself. But I decided that maybe given some game experience, he would temper his aspirations a bit. Doesn't appear that it happened. That is unfortunate. I wish the best for him, whether he stays or leaves.

[TrueblueCATfan]

not good news....I am still waiting for the blame it on Tubby post.....

[catsfan20]

listen, i was as excited by this kids talent and potential as much as anyone. but, let's be real. he's been associated with UK for what now, 6 months???? if he's giving up already than maybe it's best we wave bye to him. i really like the kid and hope he finds a better situation for him. but, for a player whose myspace page said he was going to be in the league in two years, he sure did give up pretty quickly. also, there could be tons of other factors at play here. i've mentioned it before and it still holds true. i'm totally confident in BCG's ability to make this his team. let us also take the lone silver lining from this cloud. this could be all the motivation mr. scotty hopson needs to be swayed from msu to uk.


Agreed.

[Tom Blevins]

I think Legion should be treated the way Joe Crawford was when he decided to transfer durring his freshman year. Tell him he won't be granted a release UNLESS he gives it a fair trial. Make him stay here until the end of the school year, or else he sits out two years and loses a years elgibility. If he wants to leave after playing out the season, then we wish him well and let him go. But he needs to give Kentucky and Coach Gillispie a fair chance first.

[Craig the Blueheart]

I think Legion should be treated the way Joe Crawford was when he decided to transfer durring his freshman year. Tell him he won't be granted a release UNLESS he gives it a fair trial. Make him stay here until the end of the school year, or else he sits out two years and loses a years elgibility. If he wants to leave after playing out the season, then we wish him well and let him go. But he needs to give Kentucky and Coach Gillispie a fair chance first.


Another just posted this thought in another thread:

If Legion did not sign a UK LOI, because he had signed one at Michigan and had been released, then he will not be subject to the transfer penalty.

[Tom Blevins]

Another just posted this thought in another thread:

If Legion did not sign a UK LOI, because he had signed one at Michigan and had been released, then he will not be subject to the transfer penalty.

I wasn't aware of that possibility, Craig. Thanks for pointing that out.

[Craig the Blueheart]

I wasn't aware of that possibility, Craig. Thanks for pointing that out.

I had completely forgotten about that finite issue myself... It was a good catch by Los Gatos.

[DCWildcat]

I have an idea, how about we wait until we get the official word from UK and Gillispie before we dawg the kid and coach anymore

I like it

[NashvilleUK]

Really quick - as of 6:12pm CST, no mention of any of this on ESPN.com or any of the links to the More News or Wire. Is this the "Les Miles to Michigan" rumor factory just pumping out stuff to get more views at their advertisers, because the first news is very vague. Has a lot of the same feel as the first news of Miles to Michigan....

Just wondering....nothing against FoxSports.com but I can't imagine ESPN not doing a story on a UK player leaving...

[Craig the Blueheart]

Really quick - as of 6:12pm CST, no mention of any of this on ESPN.com or any of the links to the More News or Wire. Is this the "Les Miles to Michigan" rumor factory just pumping out stuff to get more views at their advertisers, because the first news is very vague. Has a lot of the same feel as the first news of Miles to Michigan....

Just wondering....nothing against FoxSports.com but I can't imagine ESPN not doing a story on a UK player leaving...

It is probably a good idea not to pass final judgement on this situation yet.

[wildcatcrazy]

Add me to the list of those that are concerned about Gillespie.

I am ALREADY weary of hearing that players get playing time based upon how they practice. (At the risk of embarassing myself with an Allen Iverson quote "We're talking PRACTICE.")

I've been watching UK for a long time (yes, I'm old) and I cannot remember (outside of probation) starting a weaker lineup than we started against North Carolina.

Three of the five kids starting are not high D-1 talent--and the are starting because they PRACTICED well??????????????????

In regard to Legion, he is playing behind players that he is CLEARLY better than--and Gillespie chooses to not plan for the future.

I will save the rest of my rant and leave it at that.

[jaken]

I came here hoping to see a post from a "particular" poster. Not here. Seems as if there has been some "comment" from one of the player's parent(s). Whoever it was, they know what the deal is with CBC and they're backing his "madness and methods" 100%. JD, over at TCP, won't tell who it was, but he made it clear there's not a problem with CBC, just Legion. Ask Law what he thought about CBC that first Semester. Ask him what he thinks about CBC now. Maybe Law should give Legion a call and explain to him what it takes (and what the rewards are). Gillispie said that the players would hate him until January.......Legion's one that might not be able to handle the heat in the kitchen.

[justford]

We do need a shooter and Legion is a great one.

No matter how good you are, you can't score sitting on the bench :shrug1:

[catlovercardhater]

There is something going on with legion...b/c on the call in show they WOULD NOT talk about him...as I said they wouldn't.

[justford]

UK Basketball, like life, will continue with or without this young man. One more scholarship to fill.:shrug1:

[chworld22]

I am offically unsubscribing to this thread. It is craziness!

A player transfers and it is the coachs fault because he won't baby him enough. It wasn't Tubby's fault and it isn't Billy fault either. Some kids don't get alone with coachs and that is all there is to it. Legion wants to move on let him we don't need kids here that don't want to work with the coach and under his system.

[Blue 24/7]

While I think BCG is a GREAT coach, and has a great work ethic.... I think he is like a boss that you just DON'T want to work for.... that only cares about the job, and does not really care what others or his employees ( in this case his players) think of him. I think BCG needs to work on his PR skills a little more. I'm not saying he should be as nice as Tubby..... but I am saying that he needs to be a bit more understanding and kind to people.
I have noticed on the call in show... BCG only wants to talk about what he feels is necessary...everything else he will be frank with you and say... I'm not going to answer this question, or he will say, no you are wrong, and I'm right... there is no gray area. If he coaches like he treats people on the call in show sometimes... I could see how it would be hard to work for BCG..


Evidently I have been living in a cave. 1st of all, I didn't notice that the reason for the transfer has been disclosed. Yet some of you are sure that it's because G doesn't want to get along with players. Some of you have gone back and researched fan response to transfers under Tubby and notice that it's much different this time. And somehow, somebody knows how G treats his players and that he's not understanding enough. How could he be so insensitive??? And good cow how he treats those intelligent callers with the great questions on the call-in show. My question would be, why on earth would he sit and take questions from a bunch of rednecks (which I am btw) who think they know more about his team than he does. Maybe that's the part of the contract keeping him from signing it. Would be for me.

[lilproUK98]

UK Basketball, like life, will continue with or without this young man. One more scholarship to fill.:shrug1:

Exactly.

The big blue train will continue to roll on. We can let Alex and his Mom off at the next stop. Coach G will continue to do it his way and if a player and/or his mother doesn't like it he will find a player just as talented or even more talented to take his place.

I have complete faith in Coach G. It will be tough this year growing and getting through the injuries and conflicts. Honestly, if/when we get Meeks back it will be hard to get Legion playing time anyway. And with Liggins and Miller and now possibly Hopson all coming on board next year we will be loaded at guard with Meeks and Jasper already there. So, in the long run, we are fine. And I for one am still, or maybe even more excited, about the future of Kentucky Basketball.

I say if you can't cut it and you want to transfer, the sooner the better. That just frees up one more scholarship for Coach G to use on another great, talented and hard-working team player.

[ukbob]

Folks are looking for who is at fault. Fairly natural I would think, but be careful.

First of all, he is not gone yet. BG has not spoken to Legion yet. Think Crawford his Freshman year after the Kansas game when he left only to return.

Second....if he goes, then the fault most likely belongs to multiple people, if there is a fault to be found.

And as the previous poster said....UK basketball is bigger than any one player...or coach.

All this needs to be fleshed out and put to bed. This season is already going to be a long one for UK fans. These incidents just make it worse.

[Josh]

you guys really crack me up. ok lets look at this from another sport's angle. let's say it's a boxing match. cue mike buffer:

and in this corner:
-3 time big12 coach of the year
-man responsible for taking an unhappy acie law and making him into a first round draft pick
-coach who has been prasied be several former players and even the coach who took his old job who thanked him for leaving a PROGRAM behind
-coach who has engineered 2 remarkable turnarounds at UTEP and a&m

and in this corner:
-18 year old 4* shooting guard
-player who aspires to be in the NBA in 2 years
-player who was averaging 17 minutes a game and still unhappy

so, who you got???? i know who i'm laying my money down on.

This is one of the better posts of the thread. That about sums it up for me. I'm as disappointed as anyone that Legion decided to leave, but let's be real here: Coach has a record of being tough and demanding certain things, and he has received praise from his former players.

I said it a few months ago that it just *seemed* that Alex had a me-first attitude and I was wanting that assumption to be dead wrong but it doesn't look like it is. He was likely babied in high school by his coaches and when he gets to a situation where he is not playing to the expectations of our coach, he sulks and wants to leave. This is a more likely scenario and I wouldn't blame our coach for anything in this, but I blame it on a player who can't get it in his head that he's not all he thought he was cracked up to be.

[matt colvin]

Well, if Alex should end up staying, I guess we know what a lot of people really thought about him. :icon_neutral:

I went to the radio show. Coach is a little hard to read, but he didn't show any outward concern about the situation. Take that fwiw, and also remember what you payed for it before you assign any values to it :icon_lol:.

[bluescat]

I think we should contact Dionne Warwick on the Psychic Friends Network and see if she can channel Legion's mom and see what's really going on. The whole premise of this thread is ridiculous.
I think the best thing for Coach would be to start kissing his behind right now so that we can go back to the way it was when Coach Smith was here and the inmates ran the asylum.
If the young man doesn't want to get with the program let him make like a baby and head out.
Ciao!

[RichieFarmersMustache]

So where is Legion transferring to?

Sucks we are losing him. He looked like the type of player that could get real hot and carry us offensively at times. We'll be OK though once we get Meeks/Jasper back and bring in Liggins and Miller next season.

[bump63]

http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/7522442

Holy crap....this is a big mess up on Billy G's part....this is not good IMO. Things are starting awfully ugly got Billy. You make it work with guys of his caliber. I'm not liking what I am hearing about Billy G. Players not liking him, issues with Mitch, issues with UK...this is making us look bad!!

I disagree, I say the coach is the coach, the players play for him.

[JOHN BLUEBLOOD]

I hate to hear this news. Legion is a great talent, and will miss a good career with UK. This makes 2 teams he has committed to and left, not a good record.

Exactly, this kid quit Michigan too. Seems everyone is leaning BCG now, I guess many wanted us back to the top-10 with mediocre to good talent. Does anyone pay attention to the fact that Meeks and Jasper are out? no, it's just climb on BCG's back.

[Adolph Rollingover]

Simply put, this is really disappointing news. Legion was one of the biggest bright spots on this team, but now he is gone. If you remember, he was a big reason that the BG honeymoon was so incredible; we all operated under the assumption that this would be how UK would work after years of recruiting lulls. I hope this is an aberration.
personalties often do not mix. Coach Pitino lost his "star recruit" Jonathan Bender after a very short time. Some kids just are not able to meet the demands. Why throw blame? I wish Alex the best, but guess what, most major college coaches, will demand the same discipline.

[countrycat]

I am a UK fan, not a Legion fan. Coaches coach and players play. If your boss let certain employees do certain things just to keep them happy I bet you wouldn't like. The same thing is happening here. Some want our coach to be lax with Legion because he can shoot, and if he does he has chaos on the team with the rest of the team. I hope Legion stayes but if he don't see ya later.

[charms]

Didnt this happen with Crawford? If he changes his mind great, if he doesnt good luck.

[NashvilleUK]

Just remember everyone - nothing is official yet. Still nothing on ESPN.com about it @ 8:13pm CST.

[sac_daddy]

What is it with the guys from Michigan and their desire to pack it in during the first semester. C'mon, Alex...toughen up and get back to work. We'd love to have you but will live without you.

[bluekat4life]

Just let me know when it is confirmed!

[freethrow]

I expected something like this out of this kid. I was reading his comments a few months back about how he was going to work into a starting job right away and so forth. I guess he had his bubble busted one too many times?

On hearing players hating the coach, all of them did at first at A&M and then they loved him after realizing he was making them better players.

[flacat22]

are you serious??? How many times have you seen a coach run out of town because he can't get a long with certain players?


Happens all the time in the NBA and other professional sports but I think it very rarely happens on the college level where coaches are paid to coach and teach and are not under the constant pressure from the front office and GM to acquiesce to the player because of his HUGE contract, marketability and selling out corporate luxury boxes. Apples and oranges if you ask me.

[wildcatcrazy]

This type of thread kinda makes me want to require age to be a part of a post. With all due respect, some are clueless.

I realizie I am in the minority but many of you want to trash Legion and igorn the fact that Coach is struggly-----to say the least.

Legion was one of about five kids on the team that are D-1 level and he played less than 10 minutes against NC while we had three players start and play double those minutes----and there is NO WAY they are D-1 talent that can lead you to a National title.

I am big-time in the minority but BCG needs to adapt and adjust--and that does not mean coddle Legion or anyone else. To suggest that we should not be concerned--at true UK fans--over the events of the last two months is putting your head in the sand IMO.

[SouthBeachWildcat]

This type of thread kinda makes me want to require age to be a part of a post. With all due respect, some are clueless.

I realizie I am in the minority but many of you want to trash Legion and igorn the fact that Coach is struggly-----to say the least.

Legion was one of about five kids on the team that are D-1 level and he played less than 10 minutes against NC while we had three players start and play double those minutes----and there is NO WAY they are D-1 talent that can lead you to a National title.

I am big-time in the minority but BCG needs to adapt and adjust--and that does not mean coddle Legion or anyone else. To suggest that we should not be concerned--at true UK fans--over the events of the last two months is putting your head in the sand IMO.

you do realize Legion and his mother met with Gillispie about possibly transferring the night before the UNC game right? you really expect coach to give him big minutes after that? give me a break

[matt colvin]

you do realize Legion and his mother met with Gillispie about possibly transferring the night before the UNC game right? you really expect coach to give him big minutes after that? give me a break

Wanted to point out that few people knew this before today. So the questions about his playing time prior to this news were warranted I suppose.

[KY Native in IN]

personalties often do not mix. Coach Pitino lost his "star recruit" Jonathan Bender after a very short time. Some kids just are not able to meet the demands. Why throw blame? I wish Alex the best, but guess what, most major college coaches, will demand the same discipline.

yes, if he does bail, where does he think he's gonna go and not have to work for it and just be accepted as a "god" and be allowed to call his own shots?....that is if it's all on the level....

you billy bashers don't expect him to "adapt and adjust" do you?....he's a texan and he's a bulldog, he'll do just like ronald reagan, tell you to go to hell with a big smile on his face...GO COACH, don't take ANY crap!!!!!....just have a little patience coach is going to get the Cats back on top, just hang in there....

[matt57]

This type of thread kinda makes me want to require age to be a part of a post. With all due respect, some are clueless.

I realizie I am in the minority but many of you want to trash Legion and igorn the fact that Coach is struggly-----to say the least.

Legion was one of about five kids on the team that are D-1 level and he played less than 10 minutes against NC while we had three players start and play double those minutes----and there is NO WAY they are D-1 talent that can lead you to a National title.

I am big-time in the minority but BCG needs to adapt and adjust--and that does not mean coddle Legion or anyone else. To suggest that we should not be concerned--at true UK fans--over the events of the last two months is putting your head in the sand IMO.

OK, so by adapt and adjust what do you mean exactly???? do you wan't him to stop being so demanding and require less work in practice???? if that's what you mean then your asking him to stop doing the things that got him this job. IMO that's just asking for trouble. maybe, just maybe it's the fans who should adapt and adjust. this guy's way works just give it time or we can continue to prove the national media correct on how we over react to EVERYTHING.

[DRCATFAN]

I'm not going to pass judgement until we hear some facts. Also, no matter the facts BCG deserves a few years to prove hiumself. That being said, I hate to see some of the things happening that I hated about Tubby. Players transferring, and rewarding PT on practice versus talent. You don't bend over backwards for talented players, but you do have be able to deal with this type of ego. Pitino was a master at this.

I've very interested to hear more facts on this issue. The only positive I can see coming from this is it opens up more PT for Porter :)

[wildcat74]

billy gillispie is the ultimate hard a** ....he's not going to take crap from anyone let alone a wishy washy freshman....and that's just as it should be....

what would Adolph Rupp do with some of these primadonna ball players we have these days?

we don't need a wimpy coach anymore than we need a freshman that don't wanna be here....GO COACH G!!!!!


Good post. Let the man coach and let the chips fall where they may and reassess this time next year. This is going to be a rebuilding process. I personally don't by the 'its not about playing time'. In the end that is what it boils down to, players don't want to work hard to play. They just want to play.

[scfcats]

Man that sux, that's awful news if Legion goes through with it. :icon_cry:

Best of luck to him.

Go CATS! :widcat:

[wildcat74]

do you wan't him to stop being so demanding and require less work in practice???? if that's what you mean then your asking him to stop doing the things that got him this job.


EXACTLY! Very good point. The players that will suck it up will reap a reward in the end. The ones that dont want to work hard have an easy way out at any point. Do the names Pelfrey, Feldhaus, Farmer and Woods sound familiar?

[KYISSUPREME]

are you serious??? How many times have you seen a coach run out of town because he can't get a long with certain players?

Matt Daugherty ring a bell?

[yitbos]

This type of thread kinda makes me want to require age to be a part of a post. With all due respect, some are clueless.


Couldn't agree with you more......except for who you are referring too.


Legion was one of about five kids on the team that are D-1 level and he played less than 10 minutes against NC while we had three players start and play double those minutes----and there is NO WAY they are D-1 talent that can lead you to a National title.

I am big-time in the minority but BCG needs to adapt and adjust--and that does not mean coddle Legion or anyone else. To suggest that we should not be concerned--at true UK fans--over the events of the last two months is putting your head in the sand IMO.

Give me a break.....everyone on this team could be on a D1 team somewhere....maybe not a top tier D1 school...but a D1 school none the less. Coach has been here a few months and already you know better than he does?

Its attitudes like this that give UK fans bad names........we all know that the cupboard was somewhat bare when he got here. We all know that we are missing 2 important members of our team. We all knew this would be a rough season. But yet people are already clamoring for Coach's head because they know better than he does how to coach UK.

[yodude]

Looking at Alex, I can't believe anyone would think the kid doesn't practice hard. It's very athletic and in shape. Sure that's only half of it, but come on, who here has been to a practice. SO much speculation! My take is if Coury and Porter are working so hard in practice to get the playing time, then how come they aren't improving much?

OT: This board is so much better than Cats Pause.. that forum is so sad, its hard to even read.

[KYISSUPREME]

This type of thread kinda makes me want to require age to be a part of a post. With all due respect, some are clueless.

I realizie I am in the minority but many of you want to trash Legion and igorn the fact that Coach is struggly-----to say the least.

Legion was one of about five kids on the team that are D-1 level and he played less than 10 minutes against NC while we had three players start and play double those minutes----and there is NO WAY they are D-1 talent that can lead you to a National title.

I am big-time in the minority but BCG needs to adapt and adjust--and that does not mean coddle Legion or anyone else. To suggest that we should not be concerned--at true UK fans--over the events of the last two months is putting your head in the sand IMO.

While I normally wouldn't call anyone out about a post, the age thing is a bit much. Advanced age doesn't necessarily mean advanced wisdom. Condescending to the younger folks on our site really is not cool. And what exactly is "struggly"? Just curious. Do you mean quarrelsome, maybe? Oh, and I'm 42 years old. Do I pass the age requirement?

[Mr. T]

Reading stuff like this (http://www.mlive.com/weblogs/print.ssf?/mtlogs/mlive_wolverines/archives/print119109.html) (link yanked from another board) makes me think maybe there was a little attitude issue either with player, parent, or both. This with a Michigan decommitment and now a transfer just tells me that this is a young man that isn't too dedicated to ANYTHING.

This quote from the article linked above should just send red flags up everywhere - "If you didn't know much about Country Day and you came to watch us play you wouldn't know I was their best player."

[yodude]

Didn't he get out of Michigan 'cause of a coaching change there?

[Mr. T]

Didn't he get out of Michigan 'cause of a coaching change there?

Sure and lots of players do. But he also wants to transfer here after 6-7 games (which isn't enough time to figure out jack squat) and he wanted to transfer high (or prep or whatever) schools as well while complaining about not being in the offense as much as he should be there (see the quote in my first post). Sounds like player or mama thinks they know better than coaches do.

I don't know, I'm just going by what I read there, but anyone who wants to transfer after as few a games as he's had here has issues.

[LiveBlue]

From what I have read, this is more of Legion's whack-job mother's doing than it is Alex. From what I've heard, when Gillispie talked to Alex on Friday and Saturday, Alex said he was happy and wanted to be here. But his mother, who thinks she is a prophet by the way, wasn't particularly fond of the coach. I kind of feel for the kid.

[KYISSUPREME]

Sure and lots of players do. But he also wants to transfer here after 6-7 games (which isn't enough time to figure out jack squat) and he wanted to transfer high (or prep or whatever) schools as well while complaining about not being in the offense as much as he should be there (see the quote in my first post). Sounds like player or mama thinks they know better than coaches do.

I don't know, I'm just going by what I read there, but anyone who wants to transfer after as few a games as he's had here has issues.

I think you and several others have hit the nail squarely on the head, Mr. T. And I think the mother has issues, as well. The whole Final Four prophecy thing just struck me as nuts at the time. Anyone who would tell a reporter that kind of stuff has some issues. And being a protective parent is one thing, overbearing is another. I read on Matt Jones' site that she was badmouthing Coach the whole UNC game, along with another player's parent. These parents have to realize that they ARE public figures if they choose to bring it upon themselves. And they need to conduct themselves in a responsible manner at such events. She would do well to conduct herself in a more mature manner in such incidents. That kind of behavior from PARENTS at a game, out in PUBLIC, sure isn't going to do anyone any good. If Legion and his momma aren't strong enough to be involved with UK, they should leave. UK needs strong kids AND parents. Just my opinion.

[JayB]

I think you and several others have hit the nail squarely on the head, Mr. T. And I think the mother has issues, as well. The whole Final Four prophecy thing just struck me as nuts at the time. Anyone who would tell a reporter that kind of stuff has some issues. And being a protective parent is one thing, overbearing is another. I read on Matt Jones' site that she was badmouthing Coach the whole UNC game, along with another player's parent. These parents have to realize that they ARE public figures if they choose to bring it upon themselves. And they need to conduct themselves in a responsible manner at such events. She would do well to conduct herself in a more mature manner in such incidents. That kind of behavior from PARENTS at a game, out in PUBLIC, sure isn't going to do anyone any good. If Legion and his momma aren't strong enough to be involved with UK, they should leave. UK needs strong kids AND parents. Just my opinion.


Yeah ill admit ! I'm guilty to. I was chanting with them " Put Dusty in !"


LOL j/k of course

[ChattyKat]

Momma's devine intervention--


“It’s unfortunate and not what I wanted to hear, but I understand,” Gillispie said in a news release. “We met with Alex and his mother Friday, and she informed us of her desire to seek a release for her son. Shortly after that meeting, Alex told me that he still wanted to be a part of our program. He played in the game against North Carolina Saturday and seemed happy when I spoke with him Sunday.”

http://www.kentucky.com/454/story/248550.html

[trueblue24]

IMO players with a "high caliper" statis that transfer to another school after signing with a major college kinda never get heard from much again. Do you believe this has ran across Alex's mom's mind since she had high hopes of a NBA career. It just seems like this would be a step in the wrong direction. Any thoughts.

[jkeller]

From what I have read, this is more of Legion's whack-job mother's doing than it is Alex. From what I've heard, when Gillispie talked to Alex on Friday and Saturday, Alex said he was happy and wanted to be here. But his mother, who thinks she is a prophet by the way, wasn't particularly fond of the coach. I kind of feel for the kid.

I think if he really does want to be here then he should stay, no matter what his mother thinks about it. He's 18, 19 years old or whatever, his mother can't control his life against his will.

[MrsBigBlue75]

When I read that Alex's mother met with the Coach G and SHE told him that Alex was unhappy, then I knew right away his mother was unhappy not Alex and she is calling the shots. Alex told Coach G that he was happy and played on Saturday. Mom complains to everyone who will listen on Saturday at the game about Coach G. Monday, Alex is leaving.

This is a mother who has her whole son's life planned out. There was an article written back several months ago about her being a prophet. In that article, she stated that her son was going to to play in the NBA and then come be a prophet.

Remember Michael Bradley and his dad.

I'm sorry that Alex is leaving but I'm not sorry to see his mom go.

[John Clay Rice Jr.]

You're ruining our program. BTW I'm just kidding. We'll be fine. Better him than Patterson.

[jkeller]

When I read that Alex's mother met with the Coach G and SHE told him that Alex was unhappy, then I knew right away his mother was unhappy not Alex and she is calling the shots. Alex told Coach G that he was happy and played on Saturday. Mom complains to everyone who will listen on Saturday at the game about Coach G. Monday, Alex is leaving.

This is a mother who has her whole son's life planned out. There was an article written back several months ago about her being a prophet. In that article, she stated that her son was going to to play in the NBA and then come be a prophet.

Remember Michael Bradley and his dad.

I'm sorry that Alex is leaving but I'm not sorry to see his mom go.

This just goes to show you that these kind of mothers aren't just limited to local beauty pageants for 5 year olds and figure skating competitions...

[WILD1]

One player does not a program make...to paraphrase someone's signature...UK was here before him and we'll be here long after he's gone.
I presume there were reasons the kid didn't see as much PT as he'd expected, reasons I'm sure he could have resolved if he'd chosen to, (HINT: DO ALL THE THINGS, EVERYTIME, THAT B.C.G. SAYS TO IN ORDER TO PLAY/START-PERIOD!), and maybe his Mom, if we can believe those reports, didn't like him sitting the bench and playing second-fiddle to PP? If so, it's an incredibly short-sighted and petty attitude.
Oh well, such is life...I wish him well.

[BowlingGreenUKGrad]

Originally Posted by BowlingGreenUKGrad
And this isn't even a Tubby-recruited player. That's the most troubling thing.

Quote:

We have a winner for the most ridiculous Tubby bashing post yet. Ever think maybe, just maybe it has more to do with 18 or 19 year-old ego's than the credentials of 2 highly respected coaches?


How on earth do you get off accusing me of bashing Tubby with this post? My whole point is that it's not unusual for a player to leave when a new coach comes in and it's unexpected for a player to transfer so suddenly during his freshman year for the coach that actually brought him in.

Geeze...

[FatCatDaddy]

Well, I wish Alex the best, but if he was not happy here then we do not need him.

[ukwebfan]

I'm not going to pass judgement until we hear some facts. Also, no matter the facts BCG deserves a few years to prove hiumself. That being said, I hate to see some of the things happening that I hated about Tubby. Players transferring, and rewarding PT on practice versus talent. You don't bend over backwards for talented players, but you do have be able to deal with this type of ego. Pitino was a master at this. Yet players transferred, were suspended and left early for the NBA under Pitino as well. No coach is immune to this behavior.

[OldCatFan]

Good luck Alex. I hate to see you go and wish you good luck in the future. I do believe you would have had a bright future with the Cats.

[poodoo]

personalties often do not mix. Coach Pitino lost his "star recruit" Jonathan Bender after a very short time. Some kids just are not able to meet the demands. Why throw blame? I wish Alex the best, but guess what, most major college coaches, will demand the same discipline.

:thumbup::thumbup:, Adolph, especially the "WHY THROW BLAME?"!!!

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Good luck Alex. I hate to see you go and wish you good luck in the future. I do believe you would have had a bright future with the Cats.

What a nice post, OldCatFan. Also, I have the same feelings.

Most of all, from my readings last night, I see that there is a chance that Alex MAY return to the Cats. I hope that is the case, for Coach G has said that Alex is an "outstanding young man." That's enough for me.