View Full Version : BCG's Junction Boys?
baldcat
12-03-2007, 07:21 PM
You all know the story about how Bear Bryant ran a brutal, hellish training camp when he first got to A&M.
Just wondering if we could be seeing the modern day BBall equivalent right here in ole Kentucky with all the transfer talk.
Cutting the wheat from the chaff perhaps?
Los Gatos
12-03-2007, 08:00 PM
You all know the story about how Bear Bryant ran a brutal, hellish training camp when he first got to A&M.
Just wondering if we could be seeing the modern day BBall equivalent right here in ole Kentucky with all the transfer talk.
Cutting the wheat from the chaff perhaps?
I wonder how many understood the reference to "Junction Boys" before reading your post? Or how many would have understood a reference to "The Thin Blue Line"?
BigBlueAngus
12-03-2007, 08:02 PM
I did
bluescat
12-03-2007, 08:09 PM
I did too. I read them both.
BigblueDrew
12-03-2007, 09:28 PM
I sure did, a distant cousin of my fathers played on that A$M team. Dad got a first hand description of it from him and told me about it. It certianly WOULDN"T hurt my feelings if thats what Gillespie is doing.
charms
12-03-2007, 09:47 PM
Honestly I got the first, not the second.
bret1555
12-03-2007, 10:41 PM
Bear ran just as hellacious a practice regimen at UK. . . I've read stories about guys packing their bags and sliding them down the trash chutes in the dorms in order to make an inconspicuous getaway.
Still, the Bear had 75-100 guys to work through. BCG doesn't have that luxury. I am all for toughness, but there comes a time when you are cutting off your nose to spite your face.
Can't blame him for the Legion thing, necessarily, because we really don't know anything (and it seems there may be some parent issues). However, if more leave, there would have to be some questions raised, wouldn't there?
BigBlueManiac
12-03-2007, 10:53 PM
A friend of mine played for Bear at UK. He once dropped an easy pass that would have been for a touchdown. After the game, he apologized to Bear for dropping the pass.
The Bear told him, "Son, don't worry about it. It won't happen again".
It didn't, as Bear didn't allow them to throw to him again during his career.
KY Native in IN
12-03-2007, 11:06 PM
You all know the story about how Bear Bryant ran a brutal, hellish training camp when he first got to A&M.
Just wondering if we could be seeing the modern day BBall equivalent right here in ole Kentucky with all the transfer talk.
Cutting the wheat from the chaff perhaps?
seperating the sheep from the goats....
i think Coach knows what he's doing myself...
A friend of mine played for Bear at UK. He once dropped an easy pass that would have been for a touchdown. After the game, he apologized to Bear for dropping the pass.
The Bear told him, "Son, don't worry about it. It won't happen again".
It didn't, as Bear didn't allow them to throw to him again during his career.
-LMAO- Wow that is tough....But I guess he wouldn't have to worry dropping it anymore lol
sardiscat
12-04-2007, 03:41 PM
"You all know the story about how Bear Bryant ran a brutal, hellish training camp when he first got to A&M.
Just wondering if we could be seeing the modern day BBall equivalent right here in ole Kentucky with all the transfer talk."
I hope not. Bryant's record was 1-9 that year.
crazzedcats22
12-04-2007, 03:46 PM
Bear ran just as hellacious a practice regimen at UK. . . I've read stories about guys packing their bags and sliding them down the trash chutes in the dorms in order to make an inconspicuous getaway.
Still, the Bear had 75-100 guys to work through. BCG doesn't have that luxury. I am all for toughness, but there comes a time when you are cutting off your nose to spite your face.
Can't blame him for the Legion thing, necessarily, because we really don't know anything (and it seems there may be some parent issues). However, if more leave, there would have to be some questions raised, wouldn't there?
You would definitely have to question things if more leave as is being said. With some of these players and their egos, right or wrong, they won't and don't want to put up an overly demanding coach. That is the kind of coaching/system that works at lesser schools where kids aren't being recruited by every top basketball program and don't have the choices of schools to go to. I'm not saying that's whats going on at UK but if their are one or two more players that leave this year you would have to question Billy G and his methods.
I personally think BCG is trying to set a tone for the program this year. I don't have a problem with that. YOu set a ton of everyone working their butts off and playing hard and it will somewhat self purpetuate. I would guess he is being harder this year than he will be in the future because he had to get everyone on the same page. Next year he will only have to convince the freshman and he will have the upperclassmen to help. Every year it gets easier as the players know what to expect and already know the system. If you run off a few kids in the process it happens. Setting the right tone is more important in the long run than success this year or a couple of players.
bret1555
12-04-2007, 06:10 PM
I have a friend who seems to "come by" an awful lot of info over the years and he mentioned that there may have been a problem between Legion's mother and BCG. . . Being a minister, it seems she did not appreciate the language the coach used and things of that nature.
Take that with a grain of salt.
crazzedcats22
12-04-2007, 06:25 PM
I have a friend who seems to "come by" an awful lot of info over the years and he mentioned that there may have been a problem between Legion's mother and BCG. . . Being a minister, it seems she did not appreciate the language the coach used and things of that nature.
Take that with a grain of salt.
I have heard that a few times now. Apparently, he can get pretty intense with the language!
catdmd
12-04-2007, 06:29 PM
No need for salty language from a coach. I hope this is not the case. To use that kind of language is just ignorant.
yitbos
12-04-2007, 06:37 PM
Many people use that type of language in everyday life. You can be assured that any word that he might use, has been heard by these kids from another coach, friend, or opponent on and off the court.
If they are upset by a few foul words, then they need to get out of competitive sports now.
BigBlueManiac
12-04-2007, 06:39 PM
No need for salty language from a coach. I hope this is not the case. To use that kind of language is just ignorant.
And commonplace. I think you have to pass ' Cussin 101' to get your coaches license.
BigBlue75
12-04-2007, 06:49 PM
It's important to note that since the "Junction Boys" movie was released, several of the surviving players, including some of the ones portrayed in the film, came out and said many of the events either never happened or were blown out of proportion for the sake of the movie.
I think it's safe to assume that Coach G's practices aren't like that.
bret1555
12-04-2007, 09:25 PM
And commonplace. I think you have to pass ' Cussin 101' to get your coaches license.
I disagree. . . Roy Williams is renowned for eschewing curse words and he has been a pretty successful coach. I try to never curse in front of my own players. I see it as a responsibility as a mentor to model intelligent speech to my young student-athletes.
There is the language you may use in private, with close friends, and then there is language you use in public. Some may say that is hypocritical, I say it is simple propriety.
Not saying it makes anyone a bad person, or a bad coach, just that there are more appropriate ways to express displeasure.
DCCatFan
12-05-2007, 09:58 AM
This whole thing is playing out like the script for Hoosiers. New coach. Runs his team into the ground boot camp style, where players don't even shoot for a couple of weeks (right out of the Norman Dale playbook). Parents get upset and players leave the team (and remember -- some came back and were ready to work). Fans get highly restless, until Jimmy Chitwood saves the day and Shooter Flatch becomes an assistant, well on their way to glory.
Now, I don't know who our Jimmy Chitwood is, but I hope to hell Anette Legion doesn't become our Shooter Flatch!! Mr. Meeks, on the other hand...
Doug Hardin
12-05-2007, 11:56 AM
This whole thing is playing out like the script for Hoosiers. New coach. Runs his team into the ground boot camp style, where players don't even shoot for a couple of weeks (right out of the Norman Dale playbook). Parents get upset and players leave the team (and remember -- some came back and were ready to work). Fans get highly restless, until Jimmy Chitwood saves the day and Shooter Flatch becomes an assistant, well on their way to glory.
Now, I don't know who our Jimmy Chitwood is, but I hope to hell Anette Legion doesn't become our Shooter Flatch!! Mr. Meeks, on the other hand...
Norman Dale and Billy Gillispie are both single, middle-aged men. Perhaps at some point this season Gillispie will share a kiss with Barbara Hershey that seems awkward and unnecessarily forced into the story.
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