Coach must coach- players must play

[SamKat]

I don't want to see the young man leave, but I am solidly on the coach's side in this. Somebody mentioned Acie Law who was considering leaving Texas A & M early on, but was so happy he stayed and became nearly the player of the year last season.

Go Cats!

[charms]

I don't want to see the young man leave, but I am solidly on the coach's side in this.

I agree 100%

[BigblueDrew]

The inmates have been running the asylum long enough, I support the coach 100#

[countrycat]

The inmates have been running the asylum long enough, I support the coach 100#

I like that. lol

[wildcatcrazy]

I do not--and I'm old enough to understand the consequences.

Coach Gillespie needs, in my opinion, look in the mirror a bit.

We've got two kids hurt--likely out for the season. Probably five that cannot play on this level and only a handfull that can play at the D-1 level and Legion was one of those handfull--now he is gone.

Gillespie--and I know I will get hammered--had better figure out pretty quick that he is being paid to produce---and I've got some serious concerns about him as a person and as a coach.

Bash away.

[countrycat]

I do not--and I'm old enough to understand the consequences.

Coach Gillespie needs, in my opinion, look in the mirror a bit.

We've got two kids hurt--likely out for the season. Probably five that cannot play on this level and only a handfull that can play at the D-1 level and Legion was one of those handfull--now he is gone.

Gillespie--and I know I will get hammered--had better figure out pretty quick that he is being paid to produce---and I've got some serious concerns about him as a person and as a coach.

Bash away.

I feel you may be blaming the wrong coach for the lack of UK calaber players. I realize players are injured and I guess coach is responsible for that to. Nobody wants us to win more than I do but you can not show favorits on a basketball team just to satisfy a player. I hope Legion stayes but if he doesn't we will still be UK tomarrow.

[surveyor]

Bash away.

Nah.

Yer doin' a fine job yerself............

[countrycat]

Looks like everyone can blame Legions mom from what Im just read. Said Legion was happy after UNC game. Now thats pitiful IMO.

[BrassowFan]

I agree to a point, however, I believe in the Pitino philosophy that you treat and motivate each player individually. IMHO, when you get players at the level that we're expecting, that's exactly what you have to do to be successful. The jury is still out on whether our coach is able to do just that.

At this point, I'm fully behind the coach, however, I am less excited about the apparent direction of the program than I was just two short months ago.

[UK Lola]

Gillespie--and I know I will get hammered--had better figure out pretty quick that he is being paid to produce---and I've got some serious concerns about him as a person and as a coach.

Bash away.

You've got guts.

[KY Native in IN]

You've got guts.

UK Lola, you're dang avatar fools me every time...

[KY Native in IN]

and I've got some serious concerns about him as a person and as a coach.
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man, that's just kooky talk....do we want a lilly livered pasty faced jelly legged wimp for a coach?

no way man, i'll take the ferocious hard nosed bulldog anyday...Coach is going to produce and then some when all the kinks get worked out...a coach like Billy G. just needs a platform like UK to really, really shine in a big way and it'll happen, maybe not this season, but it WILL happen and we'll be back on top

[BrassowFan]

man, that's just kooky talk....do we want a lilly livered pasty faced jelly legged wimp for a coach?

no way man, i'll take the ferocious hard nosed bulldog anyday...Coach is going to produce and then some when all the kinks get worked out...a coach like Billy G. just needs a platform like UK to really, really shine in a big way and it'll happen, maybe not this season, but it WILL happen and we'll be back on top

I agree to a point. I think that it's one thing to be a bulldog but it's something else when a coach cannot adapt his methods to connect and motivate individual players. I'm not saying that this is the case with BG, but it is the perception that many are putting out there on his behalf.

You might like those who cannot adapt but IMHO, that was the real criticism of Tubby Smith, that he was so head strong about his way that he never adapted to the talent around him.

As I said, it's way too early to start making judgements about this coach, there's a lot of time to judge the direction of the program, however, I think that I can say that the honeymoon is over.

[UK Lola]

I agree to a point. I think that it's one thing to be a bulldog but it's something else when a coach cannot adapt his methods to connect and motivate individual players. I'm not saying that this is the case with BG, but it is the perception that many are putting out there on his behalf.

You might like those who cannot adapt but IMHO, that was the real criticism of Tubby Smith, that he was so head strong about his way that he never adapted to the talent around him.

As I said, it's way too early to start making judgements about this coach, there's a lot of time to judge the direction of the program, however, I think that I can say that the honeymoon is over.

As fair and objective post as I have seen tonight.

[countrycat]

I agree to a point. I think that it's one thing to be a bulldog but it's something else when a coach cannot adapt his methods to connect and motivate individual players. I'm not saying that this is the case with BG, but it is the perception that many are putting out there on his behalf.

You might like those who cannot adapt but IMHO, that was the real criticism of Tubby Smith, that he was so head strong about his way that he never adapted to the talent around him.

As I said, it's way too early to start making judgements about this coach, there's a lot of time to judge the direction of the program, however, I think that I can say that the honeymoon is over.

Please do not take this the wrong way but its times like this were you see what someone is made of as a coach. And I am going to give him time to get his own players in place. I am not as upset about Legion leaving as our previous coach left us in bad shape with this team. Anyone who thaught we would win the SEC or go far in the national championship is not realistic because of the lack of UK caliber players we were left with. And one more thing IMHO a coach never has to adapt, players do if you are a good coach. I don't think Petino changed. What about Bobby Night, think he ever changed for a player.

[BrassowFan]

one more thing IMHO a coach never has to adapt, players do if you are a good coach. I don't think Petino changed. What about Bobby Night, think he ever changed for a player.

I disagree. While Pitino never adapts his work ethic, I think that he does adapt his style of play and his motivation techniques based on the individuals that he has before him.

Bob Knight on the other hand, doesn't bend for anyone. While I have the upmost respect for the man as a coach, he's not the example of what I believe is successful at this level.

As stated before, Tubby Smith is another example of a coach who was unwilling to adjust his style of play, or his methods, and we lost a lot of talent as a result.

I think that in the end, it's all on how you define adapting. Again, as I stated before, I'm not sure if this is a situation where BG failed to connect with his team, it just seems to be the perception that many are giving and in the end, time will tell. The truth is that in order to get the best talent you have to coach in a way that allows them to be themselves, while pushing them together as a team.

[wildcat74]

The inmates have been running the asylum long enough, I support the coach 100#


:thumbup::thumbup:

[countrycat]

How many times if you remember did we get beat by South Carolina because Pitinon would not get out of his fill court press. There guards would get a smile a mile wide when they would see us in it. And I think from what I have heard BCG may be going the extra mile with the meetings in his office as far as one on one , eye to eye instruction. I believe he cares more for his players than any coach I have heard of. Also Night won 2 or three championships, and has won more games than anyone in mens basketball. What does it take to be success for you.

[westtncat]

I do not--and I'm old enough to understand the consequences.

Coach Gillespie needs, in my opinion, look in the mirror a bit.

We've got two kids hurt--likely out for the season. Probably five that cannot play on this level and only a handfull that can play at the D-1 level and Legion was one of those handfull--now he is gone.

Gillespie--and I know I will get hammered--had better figure out pretty quick that he is being paid to produce---and I've got some serious concerns about him as a person and as a coach.

Bash away.
are you drinking? you side with legion on this? i cant even begin to decsribe how totally off base you are. All the problems you describe have nothing to do with coach g. If legion wants to leave...what does coach g do to make him stay? start him? so then you are prisoner to the players that dont get their way for the rest of your career. how the heck you tell coach g to look in the mirror is beyond me. hes paid to produce?? well hell if thats all that matters lets bring sutton back..lets cheat! when comments like that are made its then i know some fans could truely care less about the coach or the players...only thing that matters is the wins and losses. :thumbdn:

[wildcat74]

I do not--and I'm old enough to understand the consequences.

Coach Gillespie needs, in my opinion, look in the mirror a bit.

We've got two kids hurt--likely out for the season. Probably five that cannot play on this level and only a handfull that can play at the D-1 level and Legion was one of those handfull--now he is gone.

Gillespie--and I know I will get hammered--had better figure out pretty quick that he is being paid to produce---and I've got some serious concerns about him as a person and as a coach.

Bash away.


I was going to...but, I really, really don't even know how to respond to this.

[cdrw]

The inmates have been running the asylum long enough, I support the coach 100#

I suspect coach is more then 100 lbs.

[Stucat]

I agree with and support Coach Gillispie on this problem with Legion. If BCG allowed Legion to tell him how to coach then shouldn't all of the rest of players do the same thing? What we would have would be a team in chaos. There can only be one boss when it comes to a coach and his players and that is the coach. Frankly as good as Legion was I would rather see him leave than have Coach Gillispie cave in to his whims.

[yodude]

I think its great.. and by great I mean pathetic, that all anyone can do is bash Alex and act like they know anything about the situation. We're all a bunch of big heads if we can sit here online and assume Alex was disrespectful to Coach or is leaving because he didn't get PT or whatever else we want to say. Outside of basketball, do you realize how many freshmen transfer schools? There's probably a lot to his decision to go..
General comments, not towards any of you posters necessarily.

And please, Tubby left the program with players capable of playing D1 basketball... now they just have to step up and play. Lets get over Tubby; he's gone, Billy's squad, Billy's problems, Billy's decisions, and Billy's losses. He's had the team all summer up until now, it's HIS team and they should know what to expect from him and how he wants to play now. So, just because they aren't winning big has little to do with OTS anymore. Its really sad to see two players leave already, but its not the end of the world. Life goes on outside of basketball.

[Stucat]

yodude,

There is always the possibility that his mother made the decision for him. As a long time teacher myself I found many of the problems that some students had were caused by their mother or father. Those parents who wanted to work with the teachers and the school generally had children who did the best in school. I know that it is hard to go against your mother or father but in Alex's case it looks like it was the mother. Left to his own devices I get the impression that Alex might still be here.

I for one am not blaming Tubby Smith for anything as this is Billy G.'s team now. However you did say that your post was not for just one poster so I guess you didn't mean me.

[yodude]

Yeah, it wasn't directed at anyone, since I've been reading some stuff over at CatsPause too. It is probably a great possibility that Legion's mom had something to do with it and that's incredibly disheartening as well. I mean as much as we want our team to win and everything, they are students first and athletes second.. number 1 should always be them. So hopefully he can find some place he'll be happier; like I said many students transfer.

[nicholasvilleFAN]

Maybe this is stating the obvious, but it looks and sounds like coach is very frustrated with the work ethic and mindset of the returning players. Not sure what happened with Legion, maybe some of the frustration is trickling down from the seniors. I don't know. But it sure seems to be making room for more players that the he needs/wants. Whatever it is, does it seem Pitino like?

[bluescat]

Nuff said!

[TransientAlum]

Whatever it is, does it seem Pitino like?


There are a lot of parallels.