carter

[primetimealvey#3]

who don't carter play


if you have any suggestions tell me please

[catmandoo025]

He doesn't contribute at all.:shrug1:

[Jazz]

He doesn't contribute at all.:shrug1:
hasnt been on the floor enough to see if he could or not:shrug1:

[kjscott17]

Carter han'st shown the athletic ability to play in the man to man in your face style defense that Billy G. stresses on playing..

But I agree that he should get a shot!!!

[dj4cats]

i agree carter should be getting some minutes. he cant be more unproductive than harris was yesterday. i keep hearing that you earn your time in practice. sometimes there are players who are not great practice players but when the game start, they produce. after watching harris yesterday, carter should be given a chance at least. after all, we are only a twisted ankle (from our players with size - patterson stevenson coury) from having to play him anyway and before the SEC season is when this needs to be determined if he can help the Cats or not.

[ibleedblue2]

I'm kind of up in the air w/Carter. He never plays any. Does anyone know exactly why? Does he participate in practice? Pay attention? Or is he just lazy? Is he scared of reinjuring his shoulder? This guy is 7'. His big body could be used if he would just hustle and play hard. I'm just very disappointed w/ him this year. :shrug1:
hasnt been on the floor enough to see if he could or not:shrug1:

[RaleighCat]

My theory on this situation isn't just about Carter, so here it goes:

Coach Gillispie must be dealing with some serious issues behind the scenes- with multiple players- to explain why Carter, Williams and Stewart aren't playing. It appears personality issues caused the Legion defection/rejection as well.

Maybe Carter isn't playing because of something happening off the practice court? I don't know, but it's certainly a possibility. Same with AJ Stewart. He got ZERO minutes against UAB, and Coach gave no explanation.

If Coury can earn big minutes, then anyone can earn minutes if they do what Coach Gillispie expects. Something is going on with a few guys that are either basketball related or deeper. Either way, they're not meeting Gillispie's standards.

[wildcat74]

He does get a chance to play. In practice!

If he isn't showing that he can play in practice, what makes people beleive he can show it in a game? He simply isn't skilled enough to play here...its a cold-fact.

If the guy is getting beat out by coury then something is wrong.

Raleigh brought up another point, there are relationships that just may not be working out, remember none of these guys were recruited by BG. They may just not get along for whatever reason.

[Colonel-Catfan]

"If Coury can earn big minutes, then anyone can earn minutes if they do what Coach Gillispie expects. Something is going on with a few guys that are either basketball related or deeper. Either way, they're not meeting Gillispie's standards."

Couldn't have said it better myself. I am a HS coach, not basketball although I have done that too, and I expect certain things from my players. The one's that do these things get the majority of the PT.

[Randy]

I don't see how any of you Carter supporters can think for a minute that he deserves to be getting minutes. He's terrible.

[ibleedblue2]

I don't see how any of you Carter supporters can think for a minute that he deserves to be getting minutes. He's terrible.



I'm not a Carter supporter. He is on our team, but sits over on the bench. If we are so terrible, then he could'nt hurt us right? I know he is terrible, but so are a couple of others who START.

[Randy]

I'm not a Carter supporter. He is on our team, but sits over on the bench. If we are so terrible, then he could'nt hurt us right? I know he is terrible, but so are a couple of others who START.

I agree totally with that..If i had my wishes we would be getting a look at Stewart and Williams instead of those two.

[BigblueDrew]

It is truely a sign of a losing program when its fans cast about desperately for a way to pound a square peg in a round hole. Folks there is no answer to our delima ON OUR BENCH. I used to wonder what it was like for all those people that we used to beat all the time. I often pondered how depressing it would be to be a fan of one of them. Now I am finding out. We are not going to wish our way out of this hole, nor are the Jared Carters of the world going to lead us out. We are just going to have to bite the bullet and wait for better days.

[Matt Dillon]

It is truely a sign of a losing program when its fans cast about desperately for a way to pound a square peg in a round hole. Folks there is no answer to our delima ON OUR BENCH. I used to wonder what it was like for all those people that we used to beat all the time. I often pondered how depressing it would be to be a fan of one of them. Now I am finding out. We are not going to wish our way out of this hole, nor are the Jared Carters of the world going to lead us out. We are just going to have to bite the bullet and wait for better days.

Exactly.

[Craig the Blueheart]

I don't see how any of you Carter supporters can think for a minute that he deserves to be getting minutes. He's terrible.

Have you forgotten that the guy suits up for our team? He may not be the most talented or athletic player in the country, but you should consider how harsh this sounds to his family and friends if they were to read it (and trust me, some of them lurk here). He has been a huge disappointment, and I don't see the changing any time soon with the small glimpses we have had. I am rooting like crazy for that to turn around, however.

[Randy]

Have you forgotten that the guy suits up for our team? He may not be the most talented or athletic player in the country, but you should consider how harsh this sounds to his family and friends if they were to read it (and trust me, some of them lurk here). He has been a huge disappointment, and I don't see the changing any time soon with the small glimpses we have had. I am rooting like crazy for that to turn around, however.

For me to read where someone called me or a family member terrible would be no different than to read where someone had called me or a family member "A HUGE DISAPPOINTMENT". I get the feeling though that had i chose those words instead of terrible that we'd still be having this discussion anyway.

[RP_McMurphy]

This message board has as many rebounds as Jared Carter has for the year. ZERO and that's why doesn't play.

[Josh]

Have you forgotten that the guy suits up for our team? He may not be the most talented or athletic player in the country, but you should consider how harsh this sounds to his family and friends if they were to read it (and trust me, some of them lurk here). He has been a huge disappointment, and I don't see the changing any time soon with the small glimpses we have had. I am rooting like crazy for that to turn around, however.

If family members and friends are lurking on these forums, I'm sure they are equally as bothered to read that Jared is a "huge disappointment" as when they read that "he's terrible." There is no difference.

[sardiscat]

"This message board has as many rebounds as Jared Carter has for the year. ZERO and that's why doesn't play."

This board is only 3 behind Carter in minutes played, too. Nobody can make a case for Carter not playing based on what he has done in games this year. My own theory is that the new coach is as looney as Eddie Sutton ("I'll start Robert Lock and Eric Manual, but Richard Madison and Cedric Jenkins aren't going to get off the bench, the fact that Madison averaged 10 rebounds a game last year be damned") when it comes to deciding who to play.

[crazzedcats22]

who don't carter play


if you have any suggestions tell me please

easy....he's not any good. Sorry to hate on him, I wish the situation was different, but if you are 7'2, 260 pounds and you ARE NOT currently seeing time for UK, you have absolutely ZERO chance of playing once we get some good players on this team.

[Randy]

If family members and friends are lurking on these forums, I'm sure they are equally as bothered to read that Jared is a "huge disappointment" as when they read that "he's terrible." There is no difference.


Exactly the point i tried to make to a few posts ago. He's basically saying the same thing and trying to dog me for it.

[wildcat74]

but if you are 7'2, 260 pounds and you ARE NOT currently seeing time for UK, you have absolutely ZERO chance of playing once we get some good players on this team.

Not sure why its hard for people to understand this. I wonder if Jared wasn't from KY, would anyone care that he doesn't play????

[matt57]

Not sure why its hard for people to understand this. I wonder if Jared wasn't from KY, would anyone care that he doesn't play????

you already know the answer. he sits right next to carter. his name is mike williams. nobody starts a thread or even brings up williams' playing time. personally, i've never seen anything out of carter that makes me think he can help us even a tiny little bit. he's slow, weak, not a good defender, and he's not very athletic. the highlight of his career is a hook shot against kansas while we were down by 40. if carter can't beat out mark coury for PT then he doesn't deserve to see the floor.

[wildcat74]

you already know the answer. he sits right next to carter. his name is mike williams. nobody starts a thread or even brings up williams' playing time. personally, i've never seen anything out of carter that makes me think he can help us even a tiny little bit. he's slow, weak, not a good defender, and he's not very athletic. the highlight of his career is a hook shot against kansas while we were down by 40. if carter can't beat out mark coury for PT then he doesn't deserve to see the floor.


I certainly agree with your last sentence. Thats what makes this a no brainer. He's not practicing against tim duncan! If you cant beat out coury then you shouldn't see much pt, imo.

[matt57]

even more to the point. if you really sit and think about it all. i'm sure the first team practices together. so, that would mean that carter is going up against patterson or coury every day in practice. which means he's got a 4 inch height advantage on whoever he matces up against in practice. if he's not producing against coury or patterson why would coach g expect him to show up against hansborough, dj white, caracter, or any other decent post player?

[Radiated]

Carter has played 106 minutes in his career. 5.3 minute average. Seems like he has really gotten an opportunity to play.

Why not give him a chance. Nobody has gave him a chance since day 1. It's not like Courey gives all that much when he is on the court.

[matt57]

Carter has played 106 minutes in his career. 5.3 minute average. Seems like he has really gotten an opportunity to play.

Why not give him a chance. Nobody has gave him a chance since day 1. It's not like Courey gives all that much when he is on the court.

decent point. but, don't you think it's odd that 2 seperate coaching staffs have neglected playing him???? it's not like anyone has a grudge against him. there comes a time to call a spade a spade.

[lighthouse]

Have you forgotten that the guy suits up for our team? He may not be the most talented or athletic player in the country, but you should consider how harsh this sounds to his family and friends if they were to read it (and trust me, some of them lurk here). He has been a huge disappointment, and I don't see the changing any time soon with the small glimpses we have had. I am rooting like crazy for that to turn around, however.

Hey Craig, it seems several just can't understand the reason for your post.

[ChrisB60]

Folks, like it or not, Jared Carter is not UK Caliber, I think we only maybe have 2 or 3 UK Caliber players on this team. Lets face the facts that Jared isn't one of them. I think that Carter has had his chance and you are right, he has had time to prove himself. The kid looks like Gumby out there when he is playing with a nasty smirk on his face. Now does that mean I hate carter and wish he would go away...NO! I think hes a nice guy and believe me folks, hes not necessarily getting the shaft either. Tuition at UK is relatively high and he is getting a free education with everything paid for. So I woudnt feel sorry for the kid just yet. If he cant handle the Coury flurry in practice or PPat, who thinks he can handle anyone else? He should be dominating PPat, he has been playing at this level for 3 years now. That said, lets not get to feeling too sorry for this kid, hes had an opportunity, he gets one in practice daily and cant make ammends to it. Not BCG;s or anyone elses fault. And if I were his parents I would tell him to suck it up or hit the high road, but make sure you have the cash to pay for school because you have a free ride at a premier university already, dont screw it up!

[UKBOO]

^^^
WOW,
So Carter has "had his chance"? When was that? Carter played in spots his frosh year. Name me one 7 fter that wasn't a "project" coming into college before the NBA rules changed? If a kid could play at all, they could skip "GO". MOST big centers need time to develop.

His next year, he hurts his shoulder in the first or second game. He hasn't really played since and he's just a few months away from being cleared. Anyone that has had the same injury twice knows you have some extra mental stuff to over come.. Then, lets throw the rust on top of that...

So when did he "have his chance"? I don't want him to play if others can contribute more, but to say he won't ever be a player is quite short sighted, in my opinion...

Modern day UK centers that looked worse as a frosh:
Naz
Maglore

They turned out pretty good...

[Lon25]

Looking at Carter's competition I would agree that he has to be better than what is being put out there. The question would be if he is going all out or just never recovered from his injury. :shrug1:

He has to catch the ball better than Stevenson.
He moves as well as Courey.
He is 7 foot tall with average strength for the position.

I see more potential with playing time than the other two. But he is abviously not proving it in practice. I hope he shows something soon.

[RaleighCat]

^^^
Modern day UK centers that looked worse as a frosh:
Naz
Maglore

They turned out pretty good...

Not even close. Magloire played in all 40 games as frosh for the '97 squad. He averaged 5 ppg and 4 rbs. He played nearly as many mintues as Nazr did that season on a LOADED team.

Magloire really matured as a senior after almost entering the draft after his junior season. It was obviously the right move for UK and Magloire both.
But don't equate Carter and Magloire as freshmen.

Carter has been hampered and slowed by injury for certain. But he's not earning time on the practice court right now. Same could be said of his freshman season.

[UKBOO]

Not even close. Magloire played in all 40 games as frosh for the '97 squad. He averaged 5 ppg and 4 rbs. He played nearly as many mintues as Nazr did that season on a LOADED team.

Magloire really matured as a senior after almost entering the draft after his junior season. It was obviously the right move for UK and Magloire both.
But don't equate Carter and Magloire as freshmen.

Carter has been hampered and slowed by injury for certain. But he's not earning time on the practice court right now. Same could be said of his freshman season.

We are going to have to agree to disagree on this one. Naz was a mess. Over weight. Timid.. If I remember right, he had to get time on the "JV" squad. Maglore had some of the worst hands and feet ever. He did take up space. We aren't talking PT here, we are talking talent. Both were "projects" in every sense of the word. The fact that Carter had guys playing in fron to him his one full year doesn't change that.

[RP_McMurphy]

To Jared for his first rebound of the season. I know it's hard being 7-2 and being forced to rebound but I know you can do it Jared. Just lift those arms and jump your two inch vertical and reach out. Go ahead and do it....then we'll wait till next year for your next rebound.

[catdmd]

I think he ought to be put in for a few minutes and let him bang. Don't understand why he hasn't been given a shot.

[sardiscat]

We don't know what's going on in practice. Hell, coach might not even be letting Carter on the court in practice. That's what my high school coach did to me. He took a personal dislike to me and relegated me to the far end of the bench. Only reason I was third string is we didn't have a fourth string. The one problem for him with this was, I consistently torched the first string for 10 points in 5 minutes or something along those lines whenever he put me into a scrimmage. His solution for that was to just not let me play even in practice.

[wildcat74]

We don't know what's going on in practice. Hell, coach might not even be letting Carter on the court in practice. That's what my high school coach did to me. He took a personal dislike to me and relegated me to the far end of the bench. Only reason I was third string is we didn't have a fourth string. The one problem for him with this was, I consistently torched the first string for 10 points in 5 minutes or something along those lines whenever he put me into a scrimmage. His solution for that was to just not let me play even in practice.

Again, personality issues could be at play here as well. Remember, their were no recruiting relationships between any of these players and coach, other than PP.

[Randy]

You practice like you play and vice versa. As a couple of people have already stated, he's getting his chance to showcase his skills in practice and obviously he's not impressing BG enough to be able to get actual gametime minutes. Also as it has already been stated, this kid's getting a free ride to go to school.

[GOCATS2]

I WENT TO SCHOOL WITH CARTER. HE WAS A JUNIOR WHEN I GRADUATED. HE WAS 7'0 IN HIGH SCHOOL AND YET HE WASN'T THAT GOOD ON THE COURT. I PUSHED HIM AROUND DOWN LOW AND I AM ONLY ABOUT 6'3. BUT WHEN TUBBY WAS LOOKING AT HIM I ALSO REMEMBER A NORTH CARLINA COACH COMING T0 SCOTT COUNTY. (ROY WILLIAMS). HE NEVER HAS IMPRESSED ME AND HE NEVER WILL. I LIKE HIM AS A PERSON BUT AS A MAJOR D-1 PLAYER:thumbdn:. I HOPE THE BEST FOR HIM BUT HE SHOULD HAVE WENT TO ANOTHER SCHOOL. SORRY JARED BUT YOU NEED TO GO.

[RaleighCat]

We are going to have to agree to disagree on this one. Naz was a mess. Over weight. Timid.. If I remember right, he had to get time on the "JV" squad. Maglore had some of the worst hands and feet ever. He did take up space. We aren't talking PT here, we are talking talent. Both were "projects" in every sense of the word. The fact that Carter had guys playing in fron to him his one full year doesn't change that.

My point is that Carter played behind Woo and Shag his freshman year (as backups to Morris). Woo has become a cult hero to some, but he just wasn't a very good player at our level. And Shag was a grease fire. The competition for playing time wasn't that great.

Magloire played in every single game as a freshman. You can knock his hands and feet all you want. But you can't knock the fact that he played in every game for the returning national championship Cats. That's saying something.

[boomdaddy]

We are going to have to agree to disagree on this one. Naz was a mess. Over weight. Timid.. If I remember right, he had to get time on the "JV" squad. Maglore had some of the worst hands and feet ever. He did take up space. We aren't talking PT here, we are talking talent. Both were "projects" in every sense of the word. The fact that Carter had guys playing in fron to him his one full year doesn't change that.

You must have not seen Mags play. Jamaal was tha man on D, always has been. He started to become an offensive force, by his junior year. His senior season was one of the most dominating seasons ever, from a UK big man. Mags was never a project. He was an enforcer, in the paint, from day 1.

[charms]

I think Jared looked good so far, 2 blocks, 4 points. Maybe a little PT is what he needed to get going, I still see room for improvement but not just him the whole team.:icon_biggrin:

[wildcat74]

Except for the fould 40 feet from the basket, he has looked decent. Hope he builds on it.

[charms]

yeah I agree, but at least I see some hope:icon_smile:

[charms]

I just wonder what if Coach would have went to Carter ealier. I think he would have played a little better and could have given us a little bit of threat on the inside, at least in the second half. JMO

[WingoCatFan]

Carter has 6 points, 4 rebounds, 2 blocks and only 1 TO.
There is definately room for improvement, but I believe that he could be a big compliment when playing at the same time as Patterson. Maybe we will get the chance to see soon.
I think he proved that he is not nearly as bad as many posters have made him out to be.

[crazzedcats22]

Carter has 6 points, 4 rebounds, 2 blocks and only 1 TO.
There is definately room for improvement, but I believe that he could be a big compliment when playing at the same time as Patterson. Maybe we will get the chance to see soon.
I think he proved that he is not nearly as bad as many posters have made him out to be.

I think that's as good as it gets. Houston didn't have a player that was over 6-9 play last night. That means Carter had AT LEAST 5 inches on every guy that guarded him and he still couldn't do anything.

[UKBOO]

I think that's as good as it gets. Houston didn't have a player that was over 6-9 play last night. That means Carter had AT LEAST 5 inches on every guy that guarded him and he still couldn't do anything.

Still couldn't do anything? Sometimes I think we are watching different games. LOL UK went to him 4 times. He scored on three. He had to be within one or two of the leading rebouder last night in limited minutes. I thought he had three blocks. I think he got credit for two. He altered more.

And he couldn't do anything?

[crazzedcats22]

Still couldn't do anything? Sometimes I think we are watching different games. LOL UK went to him 4 times. He scored on three. He had to be within one or two of the leading rebouder last night in limited minutes. I thought he had three blocks. I think he got credit for two. He altered more.

And he couldn't do anything?

Not really sure what your definition of anything is, but I don't consider 6 points, 4 rebounds a whole heck of a lot. Maybe you are happy with that output, I'm not sure. Especially with the size advantage he had on the guys guarding him.

[WingoCatFan]

I think that's as good as it gets. Houston didn't have a player that was over 6-9 play last night. That means Carter had AT LEAST 5 inches on every guy that guarded him and he still couldn't do anything.

There are a lot of teams that will only have 1 player over 6-9. If Patterson is in the game, who do you think they will be gaurding?
I am not saying Carter is the savior of the team. I just think he would compliment Patterson at least equally as well as Harris or Coury. I would expect that Carter would improve will a little more playing time. He did not set the world on fire playing against Huston, but was tied for 3rd highest scorer for UK. It is much less painful, at least for me, to watch Carter try to contribute than it is to watch Porter.

[wildcat74]

I think that's as good as it gets. Houston didn't have a player that was over 6-9 play last night. That means Carter had AT LEAST 5 inches on every guy that guarded him and he still couldn't do anything.

What was really dissappointing is that not of his rebounds were balls that didn't fall into his hands. He has a hard time going after the ball for a rebound, as if hes permenently stuck to the ground. Nonetheless, I think it was his best perfomrance as a cat so far.

[sardiscat]

"but I don't consider 6 points, 4 rebounds a whole heck of a lot."

If he hadn't scored a point last night, he still brought Houston's posterizing party to a complete stop when he was on the court. He blocked two and altered every Houston layup attempt after that. What front line player did UK have with a better line than Carter last night? If your front-line players are only going to get 6 points and 2 rebounds, better that they be seven feet tall than 6'7".

[UKBOO]

^^
Carter isn't going to create his own options. We do not want him to. His job is to make himself available. he did that. The times he got the ball he did what he was supposed to do. He scored. He still isn't fighting for boards and still finished with 4. How many minutes? 12-17?

People will not see that he can help the team because they have already decided he can not.

I'm not saying he can every game, but I'm willing to give the kid a shot when he earns a shot.

At least then, people should look at it objectively.

[swimuk1]

The only way I feel Carter helps us in many cases is rebounding and blocks. If B could put him in the game just for those with PP in there too, well maybe he could at least stop or alter an inside game on the defensive end. When we play teams with faster guys (see last night) and he comes away from the rim, he will get beat and leaves someone else to pick up and that leads to a lay up..again see last night. Though his blocking out skills need some refiing....but there were about 5 others than could use the same clinic.

[UKcat98]

We don't know what's going on in practice. Hell, coach might not even be letting Carter on the court in practice. That's what my high school coach did to me. He took a personal dislike to me and relegated me to the far end of the bench. Only reason I was third string is we didn't have a fourth string. The one problem for him with this was, I consistently torched the first string for 10 points in 5 minutes or something along those lines whenever he put me into a scrimmage. His solution for that was to just not let me play even in practice.

I feel ya man. My situation was exactly the same as yours, except I had 2 different coaches my jr. & sr. years. Same result, however.

Lemme guess. Small town?

[UKBOO]

^^
Putting Carter on one block and 2 Pat on the other would make 2 Pat's life much easier on the offensive end as well. They both have to be accounted for, so 2 Pat would probably get a smaller guy on him. If the larger guy played him, then post up Carter while he has the smaller guy.

If this team is supposed to be running the offense through the post, then get to it. Until now I've given them a little bit of a break since 2 Pat is too small to post up with no help. But if Carter's earning minutes, then give it a try with 2 Pat at his natural position!

[sardiscat]

"Lemme guess. Small town?"

The coach was from a small town. I was from Louisville. He had played for UL. I made no secret about being a UK fan. He liked guys who did a lot of rah-rahing and made it a point to show how hard they were trying, even if they didn't get any results. I was quietly efficient. He had been a "C" student only by studying his butt off. I made straight "A"s without trying real hard. He liked you to always try to get inside for layups. I didn't see the point because a 20 footer for me was like a layup. He also didn't like that the fastest guard on the team could blow right past me, but I was the smallest forward on the team when I played up front. What really steamed his butt, though, was that I played 1000% better in games (including scrimmages) than I looked in practice drills. Like Gillispie, he didn't believe that was possible and it sort of challenged his entire system of beliefs. I always thought I was trying hard in practice, but when somebody started keeping score something changed in my head and I became absolutely fearless.

[ChrisB60]

For Carter to be a 7'0" person he sucks in the post. He cannot post up, he gets pushed around, he's timid and he has the same smirk on his face the whole ding dang game! I mean people, the kid should be a beast! He is getting pushed around by guys that hes at least 6 inches taller than. He is committing fouls that freshman commit.

Some of you people on this board seem to have a problem taking criticism, whether you know his family or not. I am sure he is a nice guy, but I am tired of nice guys wearing UK basketball uniforms, He is soft and will never be a great player and that is just life. Just like I will never be 6 ft, he will never be a good UK basketball player, give it up folks!

[sardiscat]

For Carter to be a 7'0" person he sucks in the post. He cannot post up, he gets pushed around, he's timid and he has the same smirk on his face the whole ding dang game! I mean people, the kid should be a beast! He is getting pushed around by guys that hes at least 6 inches taller than. He is committing fouls that freshman commit.

Some of you people on this board seem to have a problem taking criticism, whether you know his family or not. I am sure he is a nice guy, but I am tired of nice guys wearing UK basketball uniforms, He is soft and will never be a great player and that is just life. Just like I will never be 6 ft, he will never be a good UK basketball player, give it up folks!

Did it make you feel big to post that? Do you now feel important because you, a little nobody, can criticize a great big UK basketball player? Did you note it in your diary that, you, ChrisB60, on December 19, 2007, said a UK player sucks? Will you show it to your grandchildren someday when you're telling them all the great things you did in your life? Carter had the best line of any UK frontcourt player last night. He made you look bad because you had already said he wasn't any good about a million times on this board. You don't know a basketball from a hole in the ground, but you're a big man because you can say on a message board that a UK basketball player sucks and nobody can stop you.

[grillman]

as far as carter playing as a freshman , with injuries and the two redshirt years , you might as well count him as a freshman . but he still looks out of shape and the few times that he recieved the ball the houston players [3 or 4 ] collasped on the middle and even the most experienced might have trouble getting the shot off with three players on him . i'm not pro-carter or against him . this team is not going to get better until we get a better team chemistry and the reserve's like carter and the injured players get back up to speed , and on the same page as THE COACH . I AM A FIRM BELIEVER THAT ALL FANS SHOULD SUPPORT THE COACH UNTIL HE PROVES HIMSELF OTHERWISE , [OTHERWISE] MEANS MORE THAN A FEW GAMES OR HALF OF SEASON . I PERSONNALLY DON'T LIKE BEING SECOND GUESSED WHEN I' M THE BOSS [WHEN MY WIFE LETS ME ] AND I'M SURE THAT COACH DOES'T EITHER . if he's half as smart as i think he is he probally does't read these forum .

[UKhoov]

For Carter to be a 7'0" person he sucks in the post. He cannot post up, he gets pushed around, he's timid and he has the same smirk on his face the whole ding dang game! I mean people, the kid should be a beast! He is getting pushed around by guys that hes at least 6 inches taller than. He is committing fouls that freshman commit.

Some of you people on this board seem to have a problem taking criticism, whether you know his family or not. I am sure he is a nice guy, but I am tired of nice guys wearing UK basketball uniforms, He is soft and will never be a great player and that is just life. Just like I will never be 6 ft, he will never be a good UK basketball player, give it up folks!

Taller doesnt neccisarily make you stronger. And given that this kid has had 2 major surgeries on his shoulder, his mentality on bangin on the inside is gonna be a bit tentative. Who cares what expression he has on his face, Joe Crawford hasnt made a face in 4 years and seems to be doing alright.

Also given the fact that he really hasnt played a game in what...2 years...he not gonna suddenly pick up a ball and be the second coming of Sam Bowie.

I dont understand the need for a personal attack on a player when this is really the only game anyone has seen him play more than 2 minutes, and he actually steps in did a decent job.

Do I want him to be stronger in the post, do I want him to grab more boards, do I want him to be ferocious in the paint....YES.

But let this kid have a chance to prove he is something, before you decide he is nothing!:icon_evil:

IMO, Jared did a nice job with the 16mins he had lastnight. I hope this is something for him to build on, so all the HATERS will leave him alone.

[ChrisB60]

Did it make you feel big to post that? Do you now feel important because you, a little nobody, can criticize a great big UK basketball player? Did you note it in your diary that, you, ChrisB60, on December 19, 2007, said a UK player sucks? Will you show it to your grandchildren someday when you're telling them all the great things you did in your life? Carter had the best line of any UK frontcourt player last night. He made you look bad because you had already said he wasn't any good about a million times on this board. You don't know a basketball from a hole in the ground, but you're a big man because you can say a UK basketball player sucks on a message board and nobody can stop you.

No I can say a UK player sucks because I have an opinion and I am entitled to it. Unlike you sir or ma'am, I like to face the facts. Carter is terrible, Porter is terrible, Stevenson is terrible, Coury tries and thats the facts. Will I tell my grandchildren? Your damn right I will, they need to face reality and the reality of this world is cruel. You need to wake up and see what many other people see and and face the facts that Jared Carter is not a very good basketball player! Is he better than me in basketball? Yes! Is he also getting a free ride to a 4 year university taht is about a 60,000 commitment? YES!!! So he is not leaving empty handed here. People should realize that this team has a few talented players on it and the rest are mid-major caliber at best. Mid-Major I say. Tubby Smith is responsible for this monster and we saw that last night. Maybe he is the smartest man for seeing the writing on the wall and LEAVING, thats right he RESIGNED!!!!!!

I will defind my analysis of any player on here. I may not know basketball well, but even with a college degree, I along with many other people can spot the people who really should be out on that court. Look at the UNC game this year and KANSAS last year. We were out talented and that never should have happened. Carter or not. I am sorry, I am sure your a friend of the Carter family and tell them their son seems like a nice guy, but he does not belong on a basketball court. He was getting pushed around and could not establish a post presence last night at all against men he was atleast 5 or 6 inches taller than. Ill post the game on You Tube and slow motion the plays with Carter in there!

Good Day!!!

[ChrisB60]

Taller doesnt neccisarily make you stronger. And given that this kid has had 2 major surgeries on his shoulder, his mentality on bangin on the inside is gonna be a bit tentative. Who cares what expression he has on his face, Joe Crawford hasnt made a face in 4 years and seems to be doing alright.

Also given the fact that he really hasnt played a game in what...2 years...he not gonna suddenly pick up a ball and be the second coming of Sam Bowie.

I dont understand the need for a personal attack on a player when this is really the only game anyone has seen him play more than 2 minutes, and he actually steps in did a decent job.

Do I want him to be stronger in the post, do I want him to grab more boards, do I want him to be ferocious in the paint....YES.

But let this kid have a chance to prove he is something, before you decide he is nothing!:icon_evil:

IMO, Jared did a nice job with the 16mins he had lastnight. I hope this is something for him to build on, so all the HATERS will leave him alone.

Two different coaches have given him the same similar fate, bench duty!
I am not personally attacking the kid, I said he seemed like a good person, if I said he was a complete jerk, that would be a personal attack. I could go on similar rants about each player on this team. i face the facts folks, i am simply voicing my displeasure with the way specific individuals play! That is not a personal attack, if you want a fair assessment of this team I will give you this:

Guards: some injured, #32 and #3 playing with fairly little heart, picks it up late in the game!

Forwards: #54 is the best one on the team. #15 doesnt play much, seems to be out of position a lot, has heart and tries

Centers: Each 7 footer has yet to prove themselves. If they cant do it in practice, there is no way they can do it in a game.

Overall: this team needs help and heart!

[poodoo]

I wonder how many listened to Jodie Meek's extensive PRAISE of Jared Carter after last night's game. He also said that was what they had been seeing from Jared in practice lately. Jodie sounded quite enthused and brought up Jared's play a second time during his intercview as POG. I happen to think that Jodie knows something about basketball.

I just hope we see continued improvement from Jared, for we do need him. Personally, I don't think it's helpful or fair to any of our players to say that a certain player "sucks." While I realize that our talent level at some positions does not match the level we have usually witnessed in the past, I appreciate each player's effort enough not to insult him with such an extreme comment. No personal offense is intended toward anyone. Merely my humble opinion on the matter.

P.S. In regard to Jared, specifically, Coach G just expressed that Jared has improved and may become a good player for us someday.

[UKBOO]

I wonder how many listened to Jodie Meek's extensive PRAISE of Jared Carter after last night's game. He also said that was what they had been seeing from Jared in practice lately. Jodie sounded quite enthused and brought up Jared's play a second time during his intercview as POG. I happen to think that Jodie knows something about basketball.

I just hope we see continued improvement from Jared, for we do need him. Personally, I don't think it's helpful or fair to any of our players to say that a certain player "sucks." While I realize that our talent level at some positions does not match the level we have usually witnessed in the past, I appreciate each player's effort enough not to insult him with such an extreme comment. No personal offense is intended toward anyone. Merely my humble opinion on the matter.

P.S. In regard to Jared, specifically, Coach G just expressed that Jared has improved and may become a good player for us someday.


You get a standing O from me.
And given that UK is having a hard time signing another center, if Carter and/or Williams can come on and develop, it eases the need a little.
I think even if you doubt Carter will ever be a player, you should still root for him and hope you are wrong.

[ImForKy]

No I can say a UK player sucks because I have an opinion and I am entitled to it. Unlike you sir or ma'am, I like to face the facts. Carter is terrible, Porter is terrible, Stevenson is terrible, Coury tries and thats the facts. Will I tell my grandchildren? Your damn right I will, they need to face reality and the reality of this world is cruel. You need to wake up and see what many other people see and and face the facts that Jared Carter is not a very good basketball player!
Good Day!!!

Okay, ChrisB60. Yes, you can say that a UK player "sucks" and you can defend it on this board and go just as far as the mods will allow you to. You can tell your grandchildred anything you want. However, let me make a suggestion: rather than vent your cowardly anger anonymously, go out some night (or day for that matter) go look up Jared, or Michael, or Perry or any of the other players you are so eager to criticize and downgrade and SAY IT TO THEIR FACE!! One suggestion though: make sure your insurance is paid up because I have a feeling you're going to need it!! :tongue3: