just one ?

[ukfanaticus]

? For all the BCG protectors on the NATION,,,, Can you HONESTLY say you all think Mark Coury is one of UKs best 5 players ? If so please , Try to convince me , Ive seen about 4 highschool teams this year he couldn't play on more less start 4 ! Excuse me if him starting is my fault as most of you think everything is someones fault besides the master BCG !:mad:

[Stucat]

Well something is wrong with UK basketball this year. We all know that but I am not sure it is all Coury's fault.

[Bombastic Blue]

Apparently, Mark Coury is the new Saul!

[Josh]

Honestly, I don't think very many of these players are truly deserving of a start other than Patrick. You can throw in just about any other player into whatever spot you want and the results aren't going to change unless something drastic happens with this team.

[UFWildcat]

Coury should not be playing.

We have enough guys on the bench that are more effective than him. I don't care who comes in but he shouldn't be playing.

The hustling effect in practice is one thing, but he brings nothing to the table.

I cringe everytime he is in the game.

Sorry, a little harsh I know, but that's how I feel.

[BigBlue75]

? For all the BCG protectors on the NATION,,,, Can you HONESTLY say you all think Mark Coury is one of UKs best 5 players ? If so please , Try to convince me , Ive seen about 4 highschool teams this year he couldn't play on more less start 4 ! Excuse me if him starting is my fault as most of you think everything is someones fault besides the master BCG !:mad:

First off, who exactly is "protecting" our coach? I wasn't aware that he needed or requested protection.

Secondly, I don't think anyone would say or be in agreement that Mark Coury is one of UK's five best players.

Thirdly, You're not the only UK fan that's dissatisfied with the product that's been put on the floor so far. There's no need for all the anger! Calm down! Sheesh! :icon_rolleyes:

[Tom Blevins]

Mark Coury may be starting, (although he didn't start in the last game) but he is 8th in minutes per game, averaging 16.5. I predict his minutes will go down as Jared Carter and/or Morakinyo Williams develop. If Perry Stevenson ever gets his weight up to 220 pounds or more, you'd also see his minutes go way down, but that won't happen this year. Or if all our guards ever get healthy at the same time, (not just well enough to play, but well enough to play at full strength) you might see the 4 guard lineup on the floor.

[towles1]

Mark Coury may be starting, (although he didn't start in the last game) but he is 8th in minutes per game, averaging 16.5. I predict his minutes will go down as Jared Carter and/or Morakinyo Williams develop. If Perry Stevenson ever gets his weight up to 220 pounds or more, you'd also see his minutes go way down, but that won't happen this year. Or if all our guards ever get healthy at the same time, (not just well enough to play, but well enough to play at full strength) you might see the 4 guard lineup on the floor.

Isnt this team having a hard time getting started in games? Then why start a guy you arent going to play? The complaining on these boards would be minimal if the best players were playing, even if we were losing. If BG was playing the best players from start to finish and they get beat by SD I might even by into the talent argument a little bit.

[catszoom54]

I agree and to me it should be principle to start the best five no matter the position so: Pat, Crawford, Ramel, Meeks, and Jasper should start.

[towles1]

I agree and to me it should be principle to start the best five no matter the position so: Pat, Crawford, Ramel, Meeks, and Jasper should start.

Some mix of three of those should be on the court at all times.

[pjquirk]

The complaining on these boards would be minimal if the best players were playing, even if we were losing.

Sorry Tow, just had to call you on this one! I know what you are saying, but we all know that with this record that there is no "minimal" amount of complaining on Internet message boards when it comes to UK Basketball.

We are in complainers heaven right now. Anyone who didn't think Coach Smith was the problem can now complain about how the situation is now worse. Anyone who thinks another coach should have been selected can complain all day long. Anyone who just isn't happy with the way the team is performing can complain all night long. Anyone who thinks Martin Newton should be back on tv complain about how the team would be winning more with Martin's insights from the sidelines!

[wildcat74]

I agree and to me it should be principle to start the best five no matter the position so: Pat, Crawford, Ramel, Meeks, and Jasper should start.


This would work wonders against anyone with any size. Haven't we seen enough players out of position the last 10 years? Not saying that coury is the answer, he clearly should play much less start.

Personally, I'd like to see Stewart play more at the 4 just for developments sake. If we're going to lose to these teams at least let the ones with greatest potential develop.

[UFWildcat]

If we're going to lose to these teams at least let the ones with greatest potential develop.

That's what I'm SCREAMIN' :eek:

[KYISSUPREME]

Other than Patterson, does it really matter who is in the game? If someone is better than Coury, then maybe they should try to work harder than him in practice and get the playing time. That would a novel thing.

[Blue 24/7]

Other than Patterson, does it really matter who is in the game? If someone is better than Coury, then maybe they should try to work harder than him in practice and get the playing time. That would a novel thing.

That doesn't seem so hard does it. By now, even a blind man could see that others are playing in front of me because they're not lazy in practice. What on earth would keep them from working their tails off in practice to earn playing time. Seems like a stand-off and so far my money's on BG to win it.

[towles1]

Other than Patterson, does it really matter who is in the game? If someone is better than Coury, then maybe they should try to work harder than him in practice and get the playing time. That would a novel thing.

Sure would. They could work really hard and get the start then maybe they would get to play 4 minutes and sit the rest of the game. Thats motivation!

[KYISSUPREME]

Sure would. They could work really hard and get the start then maybe they would get to play 4 minutes and sit the rest of the game. Thats motivation!

Look, Towel. We can do this all day, but I'll wear you out. If these other players are as good as you suggest, why don't they seem to be able to outwork and outplay Coury? Put up or shut up.

[swimuk1]

Apparently, Mark Coury is the new Saul!


Now that is funny,,,,maybe Mark was adopted...from TX....sorry but his post was funny..:icon_lol:

[towles1]

Look, Towel. We can do this all day, but I'll wear you out. If these other players are as good as you suggest, why don't they seem to be able to outwork and outplay Coury? Put up or shut up.

If you think there arent people that are outperforming Coury you cant read the newspaper or dont understand PPG and RPG.

[Blue 24/7]

Look, Towel. We can do this all day, but I'll wear you out.


I'm not so sure about that Supreme. He has been a member for a day and is averaging 93 post per day. How's that for stats :)

[pjquirk]

Arguing about whether a specific player or players should or should not be playing is rediculous. Every healthy player on the team has gotten minutes and other than Patterson and Meeks, nobody played consistently to the level which most would expect.

So instead of picking which players have played worse than the others, let's start looking at what each player could do to perform BETTER. What does it benefit anyone to say this play sucks or that player really sucks. If you want the TEAM to perform better, let's talk about how that happens. Not in terms of pointing blame, but in terms of specific actions to take.

[swimuk1]

Personally, I'd like to see Stewart play more at the 4 just for developments sake. If we're going to lose to these teams at least let the ones with greatest potential develop.

So if he continues to sleep in meetings and not work in practice he should be PT due to development. What message would that be sending.

Please do not get me wrong....I too feel something it missing. There are too many threads to count with post from myself stating just that but what is all comes down to is that BG is doing what HE thinks is best. Instilling a work ethic that preludes ability or talent. It worked at UTEP it worked at AM...so lets just sit back...throw some more things at the TV...grit our teeth and see where he takes us.

[towles1]

Arguing about whether a specific player or players should or should not be playing is rediculous. Every healthy play on the team has gotten minutes and other than Patterson and Meeks, nobody played consistently to the level which most would expect.

So instead of picking which players have played worse than the others, let's start looking at what each player could do to perform BETTER. What does it benefit anyone to say this play sucks or that player really sucks. If you want the TEAM to perform better, let's talk about how that happens. Not in terms of pointing blame, but in terms of specific actions to take.

It hard to get to that conversation when a lot of peoples stance on here is, "the players suck and have no talent." If thats your point of view, what else is there to talk about?

[KYISSUPREME]

If you think there arent people that are outperforming Coury you cant read the newspaper or dont understand PPG and RPG.

Who was it that said stats are for losers?

[KYISSUPREME]

I'm not so sure about that Supreme. He has been a member for a day and is averaging 93 post per day. How's that for stats :)

It's not the quantity of the posts, it the quality.

[towles1]

Who was it that said stats are for losers?

Tough to argue when you are wrong, huh?

[pjquirk]

It hard to get to that conversation when a lot of peoples stance on here is, "the players suck and have no talent." If thats your point of view, what else is there to talk about?

If anyone's point of view is that "the players suck and have no talent." then I still say what good does it do to argue about who sucks the most? Let's talk about what a particular player should do to improve. Ball handling drills, free throw reps, 3-point reps, footwork drills. We claim to be the most knowledgeable fans and love to play coach, so let's talk about what we would do given the current team, current situation, to make the most out of the rest of the season.

[Bombastic Blue]

PLEASE! Shut this pissin' contest down!

[KYISSUPREME]

Tough to argue when you are wrong, huh?

But you just seem to keep doing it.

[KYISSUPREME]

What's the stats on Crawfords assist-to-turnover ration? Or his or his posession-to-turnover ratio? I really don't mean to sound like I hate Joe. I don't. But he is not in the class of Bogans or Fitch. And keep in mind, thier stats were formed on better teams, where everything was spread out a little more.