The Officiating

[Will Lavender]

The refs are starting to fall apart.

In the last three minutes, Woodbury has walked and then scored, and then that NBA continuation.

I'm getting nervous.

[lilproUK98]

The refs are starting to fall apart.

In the last three minutes, Woodbury has walked and then scored, and then that NBA continuation.

I'm getting nervous.

ABSOLUTELY SUCKS! Like i said, i hate watching our road games. It is just rediculous.

[NOWIS]

It almost looks like they are making a video of how not to call a ball game

[Rockober]

Now we are playing International ball.

[Will Lavender]

Okay...

No walk on the long pass against the press?

No goaltending when Patterson's shot was on the rim?

This would be funny if it weren't so pathetic.

[IAM4UK88]

We just have to deal with this. If Kentucky must beat both the other team and the refs, so be it. Let's go 'Cats!

[KYISSUPREME]

Sure looks like they are trying to give the game to UGA, and are succeeding. This is the worst ref job I have seen yet. And that is saying something. This is painful to watch. MSU game all over again.

[Will Lavender]

Let's get Albert Jackson's hands off the dribbler when he goes out on that trap, too, okay?

Sheesh. I don't think they're listening to me.

[NOWIS]

I can't wait for Lighthouse to tell us what a marvelous job the officials did

[lilproUK98]

I can't wait for Lighthouse to tell us what a marvelous job the officials did

LOL........Mr. Valentine A+ LOL

[Will Lavender]

OUR BALL!

That ball went off Gaines's knee, didn't it?

[DCWildcat]

I can't wait for Lighthouse to tell us what a marvelous job the officials did

He's got more experience officiating than everyone else on this board combined. If his opinion differs from mine, I generally defer to him, knowing his expertise vs. my limited knowledge.

[NOWIS]

He's got more experience officiating than everyone else on this board combined. If his opinion differs from mine, I generally defer to him, knowing his expertise vs. my limited knowledge.

Gerald Boudreaux has a lot of experience also but I don't believe his explanations. If you think Jasper committed an intentional foul and Bliss didn't, I guess you and I can agree to disagree. I like to read Lighthouse's reports, but I feel he is entirely too generous to his colleaguesl

[BamaCat86]

I liked Kellogg's remark about Bliss climbing Patterson's back for a rebound and got away with no call.

I'll give these guys credit that officiating NCAA men's basketball is a tough job, but when we're the SEC you would think that there are better people available than what we have seen this year.

As for Gerald Boudreaux, I never cared for him when he was on the court.

[collision course]

Gerald Boudreaux has a lot of experience also but I don't believe his explanations. If you think Jasper committed an intentional foul and Bliss didn't, I guess you and I can agree to disagree. I like to read Lighthouse's reports, but I feel he is entirely too generous to his colleaguesl

i can't wait for the SEC to tell us how we are wrong to think that should have been an intentional on the bradley play. were the officials always this bad, or do we just notice it more now?

[IAM4UK88]

were the officials always this bad, or do we just notice it more now?

Neither. They were not always so bad, nor are fans just noticing now. The officiating this year has actually been poor, relative to both expecations and prior experience.

[Wildcat Larry]

Let's get Albert Jackson's hands off the dribbler when he goes out on that trap, too, okay?

Sheesh. I don't think they're listening to me.
Yep, allowing that nearly change the whole complexion on the game. Call those fouls and UK either wins going away at the line, or is actually allowed to get their offense started.

I kept saying Jasper drive and get the foul, but then I realized that no matter what, he wasn't going to get a foul called.

[twincat]

I liked Kellogg's remark about Bliss climbing Patterson's back for a rebound and got away with no call.

I'll give these guys credit that officiating NCAA men's basketball is a tough job, but when we're the SEC you would think that there are better people available than what we have seen this year.

As for Gerald Boudreaux, I never cared for him when he was on the court.

What was the booing about when Bradley was leaving the court after he was fouled ? The TV announcers didn't mention it unless I missed it. Maybe the radio announcers said something about it. I thought Clark Kellog's comment about the foul (he thought it was not intentional) was uncharacteristic for him since he is usually fair. OR, was my bias showing? The good news about this is that the Cats showed they can win without Bradley. A lot of these guys are now having to step up and perform and this can do nothing but help us down the stretch...particularly in the SEC Tourn. Great job CATS!

[Will Lavender]

What was the booing about when Bradley was leaving the court after he was fouled ? The TV announcers didn't mention it unless I missed it. Maybe the radio announcers said something about it. I thought Clark Kellog's comment about the foul (he thought it was not intentional) was uncharacteristic for him since he is usually fair. OR, was my bias showing? The good news about this is that the Cats showed they can win without Bradley. A lot of these guys are now having to step up and perform and this can do nothing but help us down the stretch...particularly in the SEC Tourn. Great job CATS!

I heard that. I thought at first that they'd called an intentional, but I'm not sure. Could it have been UK fans booing the call? Sounded awfully loud.

[largebluej]

What was the booing about when Bradley was leaving the court after he was fouled ? The TV announcers didn't mention it unless I missed it. Maybe the radio announcers said something about it. I thought Clark Kellog's comment about the foul (he thought it was not intentional) was uncharacteristic for him since he is usually fair. OR, was my bias showing? The good news about this is that the Cats showed they can win without Bradley. A lot of these guys are now having to step up and perform and this can do nothing but help us down the stretch...particularly in the SEC Tourn. Great job CATS!

The boos were in reaction to the "Go Big Blue" chant the Cat fans started as RB walked off. . . .. the home crowd booed, then started a rather weak "U-G-A" chant of their own. . . .

[UKcat]

I think it was the Georgia crowd reacting to the Kentucky fans who had begun chanting "Go Big Blue". They did not like it at all.
All I can say is, "they better get used to it"! The Cats are back on track and they will see it in us over and over.
I can't stand Dennis Felton. He is undoubtedly the most smug, slick coach I have ever watched. I will love BCG giving him his come-uppance on a regular basis!

[twincat]

The boos were in reaction to the "Go Big Blue" chant the Cat fans started as RB walked off. . . .. the home crowd booed, then started a rather weak "U-G-A" chant of their own. . . . Rather classless on UG's part. The UK home crowd usually gives the injured player (in both FB & BB) a nice hand after an injury.

[westtncat]

Im tired of these refs, I wish someone would call a turd a turd when they see one. No way the amount of inconsistancy this year is overlooked or excused. Bradly was demolished (this is the second time) I dont want to hear anyone defend these guys any longer. We have to protect our players. IM sick of seeing them beat up and the guys in charge come up with some rule book bullcrap. Dont get our players hurt trying to defend bad officiating.

[secatman]

Anyone else see Bliss swinging his elbows...ALOT ?

[Wildcat Larry]

Like maybe right after Patterson threw down that last lob dunk? Yep, Georgia is the king of the cheap shot artists, taught well by their ringleader, eer coach. :thumbdn:

[MojoCat21]

If Lighthouse comes out and defends this mess, he's on crack. I don't give a crap about his experience as an official, there were calls made today that middle school refs make more accurately.

There were tons of bad ones but one big call that stuck out was when Woodbury grabbed a rebounded and his white shoe was clearly on the black out of bounds line. Idiot Ted Valentine is standing right on the baseline sucking and misses a call, UGA gets a basket, game is within 1. The next play PP should have had a bucket on a UGA basket interference, 4 point swing.

Come on Southeastern Conference....we're better than this crap. We should be the number 1 conference in both football AND basketball, but you just can't be with refs that couldn't make it in the MAC or SWAC.

[Rockober]

If Lighthouse comes out and defends this mess, he's on crack. I don't give a crap about his experience as an official, there were calls made today that middle school refs make more accurately.

There were tons of bad ones but one big call that stuck out was when Woodbury grabbed a rebounded and his white shoe was clearly on the black out of bounds line. Idiot Ted Valentine is standing right on the baseline sucking and misses a call, UGA gets a basket, game is within 1. The next play PP should have had a bucket on a UGA basket interference, 4 point swing.

Come on Southeastern Conference....we're better than this crap. We should be the number 1 conference in both football AND basketball, but you just can't be with refs that couldn't make it in the MAC or SWAC.

MojoCat, with all due respect you are calling Lighthouse out which is in extreme poor taste imo. I may not agree with everything he says but I know damn sure he knows more about proper calls then 99% of the people on this board.

[westtncat]

If the same foul occurs on Ramel at Rupp it there could have been a riot. I know two guys that will not get a warm welcome at Rupp when they come to town.

[I. Melvin]

I'm beginning to suspect that Boudreaux is implementing "Tubby's Revenge".

I'm used to this crap in football, but ...

[BlueRazor]

Sure looks like they are trying to give the game to UGA, and are succeeding. This is the worst ref job I have seen yet. And that is saying something. This is painful to watch. MSU game all over again.

The officiating may have been poor at times but you can't blame UK blowing an 11 point lead on the refs. UK seems to run out of gas every game during the first 10 minutes of the second half.

[BlueRazor]

Im tired of these refs, I wish someone would call a turd a turd when they see one. No way the amount of inconsistancy this year is overlooked or excused. Bradly was demolished (this is the second time) I dont want to hear anyone defend these guys any longer. We have to protect our players. IM sick of seeing them beat up and the guys in charge come up with some rule book bullcrap. Dont get our players hurt trying to defend bad officiating.

The foul on Bradley wasn't flagrant nor was it dirty. The outcome sucked but that doesn't mean the foul was evil or meant to hurt him.

[Will Lavender]

The foul on Bradley wasn't flagrant nor was it dirty. The outcome sucked but that doesn't mean the foul was evil or meant to hurt him.

"Flagrant" and "meant to hurt him" are two different things.

It was a flagrant foul. I've watched it about 20 times. Bliss pushed Bradley in the back. But I don't think there was any malicious intent whatsoever. Those things happen.

Still, that's an intentional foul.

[BlueRazor]

On a separate note you must be some type of UK fan to post over 11,000 of them in less than three years. Very impressive and I mean that sincerely

[Radiated]

I didn't think this was a poorly called game.

The refs did not seem to be calling a lot of silly fouls. They missed several, but they let them play, IMO.

The foul on me was intentional. Not flagrant. He went for the ball.But it was a hard foul. Reverse it, and the UK fans are saying it was a hard foul.

I still think these officials need to be judged after every single game. Are they? Who knows.

If I was a coach, I would pay the fine just to speak my mind on some of these refs.

But hey, at least we didn't get no 3 second calls.

[westtncat]

The foul on Bradley wasn't flagrant nor was it dirty. The outcome sucked but that doesn't mean the foul was evil or meant to hurt him.
Never said it was evil. Meant to hurt him? How do you or I know for sure? What I am sure of is that it was a hard foul from behind that DID hurt him and we didnt even get an intentional foul call. All Im asking for is consistancy. If players can do that and its just a normal foul then hey lets take every teams star player out from here on. The refs have to control that kind of stuff period.

[KYISSUPREME]

The officiating may have been poor at times but you can't blame UK blowing an 11 point lead on the refs. UK seems to run out of gas every game during the first 10 minutes of the second half.

Razor, even Tom Leach on the radio went on about the "horrible" calls during that stretch. I quote horrible, because that's what he said. And they were horrible. And if you don't think some calls can turn the tide of a game, then we will have to agree to disagree.

[BlueRazor]

Razor, even Tom Leach on the radio went on about the "horrible" calls during that stretch. I quote horrible, because that's what he said. And they were horrible. And if you don't think some calls can turn the tide of a game, then we will have to agree to disagree.

I definitely think some calls can turn the tide of the game but if this were 1996 or 1997 I don't think the officiating in today's game would have people so upset because UK would have been kicking the snot out of Georgia and while the calls may have been horrible they wouldn't have had the same possible impact. Teams that are in UK's position can live and die on a bad call. I can't wait until UK returns to its glory so a few bad calls won't matter.

[RxRusty]

The boos were in reaction to the "Go Big Blue" chant the Cat fans started as RB walked off. . . .. the home crowd booed, then started a rather weak "U-G-A" chant of their own. . . .

I already had a sick feeling in my gut watching Bradley go down. It happened on the end of the floor where I was sitting so I had a pretty good view. But what really made me feel ill was when they were walking him off and the UK folks started chanting "GO BIG BLUE". The UGA student section started booing this fan support of Bradley. I had no problem with the counter cheer "UGA, UGA" but the booing seemed really inappropriate and ill timed. I'm on the faculty at UGA so I was disappointed in "my" students.

[Will Lavender]

I definitely think some calls can turn the tide of the game but if this were 1996 or 1997 I don't think the officiating in today's game would have people so upset because UK would have been kicking the snot out of Georgia and while the calls may have been horrible they wouldn't have had the same possible impact. Teams that are in UK's position can live and die on a bad call. I can't wait until UK returns to its glory so a few bad calls won't matter.

A poorly called game is a poorly called game, whether you win by 20 or lose by 20. If somebody knocked down Antoine Walker in '96, I'm sure there would've been an uproar, and rightly so.

And a couple of the bad calls -- such as the missed walk on Woodbury, and then the missed charge as he lowered his shoulder and shoved Stevenson out of the way -- came when UK had a double digit lead.

I don't see a problem with calling it like it is.

[Will Lavender]

And UK has ALWAYS played close games in the road in the SEC. Let's not act like the domination of 1996 was the norm for this program; it wasn't. For years and years and years, UK has gone into buildings in this league and had to fight for wins. I remember Joe Hall -- and Pitino too, if you want to know the truth -- having a hellaciously difficult time winning in Knoxville.

[Bombastic Blue]

After the mugging of Bradley I was ready for Coach to go John Cheney on Bliss and send out a goon. I was thinking Williams. He's big and strong and has hard looking elbows. He could have mashed his nose like a tomato!

[poodoo]

"I don't give a crap about his experience as an official." QUOTE

Like Rockober, I OBJECT. I, too, consider that to be calling out a highly respected member of WCN, one who takes the time, at our request, to compose an officiating report after each game. As Rockober noted, as a retired official, lighthouse knows FAR more about officiating than the vast majority of us. Also, why say something about what he might say before he has even said anything at all!

Naturally, from time to time, some of us disagree with how he sees some calls (myself included). Yet, he is always most respectful to fellow posters when they disagree with him. Also, I certainly trust him to be sharing exactly what he himself saw. He has never claimd to be perfect. May we all be respectful toward lighthouse, as he is toward us.

Again, lighthouse, thank you for all the reports. They are appreciated.

[bleedbluelady]

"I don't give a crap about his experience as an official." QUOTE

Like Rockober, I OBJECT. I, too, consider that to be calling out a highly respected member of WCN, one who takes the time, at our request, to compose an officiating report after each game. As Rockober noted, as a retired official, lighthouse knows FAR more about officiating than the vast majority of us. Also, why say something about what he might say before he has even said anything at all!

Naturally, from time to time, some of us disagree with how he sees some calls (myself included). Yet, he is always most respectful to fellow posters when they disagree with him. Also, I certainly trust him to be sharing exactly what he himself saw. He has never claimd to be perfect. May we all be respectful toward lighthouse, as he is toward us.

Again, lighthouse, thank you for all the reports. They are appreciated.

As usual, you said it better than I could ever had. :thumbup:

[dwarfdorin]

"I don't give a crap about his experience as an official." QUOTE

Like Rockober, I OBJECT. I, too, consider that to be calling out a highly respected member of WCN, one who takes the time, at our request, to compose an officiating report after each game. As Rockober noted, as a retired official, lighthouse knows FAR more about officiating than the vast majority of us. Also, why say something about what he might say before he has even said anything at all!

Naturally, from time to time, some of us disagree with how he sees some calls (myself included). Yet, he is always most respectful to fellow posters when they disagree with him. Also, I certainly trust him to be sharing exactly what he himself saw. He has never claimd to be perfect. May we all be respectful toward lighthouse, as he is toward us.

Again, lighthouse, thank you for all the reports. They are appreciated.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Don't disrespect lighthouse when he is trying to let people see things from an officials perspective. The officiating was bad and Valentine has long been one of the worst officials in the NCAA, and he did nothing to dispel that ranking this game.

:widcat::widcat: Go CATS!!!