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Yuleofell
02-06-2008, 07:56 PM
and suddenly everybody forgets how to start a new thread.

How about these for some worthy thread ideas:

Will Uk win the NIT?

Is UL starting to play like the talking heads predicted before the season started?

Football recruiting; who had the better signing day?

Super election Tuesday; did anybody care?

Will Florida win another SEC crown this year?

teamchemistry09
02-06-2008, 09:25 PM
and suddenly everybody forgets how to start a new thread.

How about these for some worthy thread ideas:

Will Uk win the NIT?

Is UL starting to play like the talking heads predicted before the season started?

Football recruiting; who had the better signing day?

Super election Tuesday; did anybody care?

Will Florida win another SEC crown this year?

No UK wont win the NIT because well be in the NCAAs

UofL will, as they always do, find a way to blow it

UK had the better signing day. All of uofls good people decided to sign at places like Colorado.

No one cared about Super Tuesday because our state isnt involved

Florida doesnt win SEC crown, they finish thrid. Tennessee 1 Kentucky 2

PitinoLooksBetterInRed
02-07-2008, 03:42 PM
No UK wont win the NIT because well be in the NCAAs

UofL will, as they always do, find a way to blow it

UK had the better signing day. All of uofls good people decided to sign at places like Colorado.

No one cared about Super Tuesday because our state isnt involved

Florida doesnt win SEC crown, they finish thrid. Tennessee 1 Kentucky 2

6-7 vs the 136th toughest non-conference schedule wont get you in the NCAA tourney, not when you play in the weakest BCS conference on top of that.

John Clay Rice Jr.
02-07-2008, 05:56 PM
6-7 vs the 221st toughest non-conference schedule wont get you in the NCAA tourney, not when you play in the weakest BCS conference on top of that.
We're 11-9 smart guy. Ranked 99 in RPI last time I checked.

PJ
02-07-2008, 08:21 PM
Our non conference schedule is 6-7...is what he is saying..

I'm not going to guarantee a NCAA bid, but I'm willing to say it's a possibility.

lilproUK98
02-07-2008, 09:14 PM
6-7 vs the 221st toughest non-conference schedule wont get you in the NCAA tourney, not when you play in the weakest BCS conference on top of that.

We aren't playing for the BCS national championship (and neither did the Cards football team, LOL) last time I checked. This is NCAA Division 1 men's basketball we're talkin about, right?

And you are aware that the NCAA selection committee factors in injuries into team performance especially if that team plays like an NCAA Tournament team, and has the record of an NCAA Tournament worthy team, when healthy, right? So, taking into account that UK played virtually half the season without 2 key players, and has had countless injuries to many more key players, you have to like their chances if they keep it going.

Fact is, the Cats are coming on at the right time (as is UofL). If the Cats have all their players healthy for the stretch run, I would be willing to bet they'll finish 18-11 reg. season and win at least 2 games in the SEC Tourney, which gets them in the NCAA Tourney. And from there, its anybody's ball-game.

I know it frustrates the heck out of you that you can't have just a little more than 1 or 2 months of the University of Kentucky struggling to find its way and losing some games that they don't normally lose. Well, those times are over, and the Cats are only going to get stronger from here.

I'm sorry, its just the way it is.

PitinoLooksBetterInRed
02-08-2008, 12:34 AM
We aren't playing for the BCS national championship (and neither did the Cards football team, LOL) last time I checked. This is NCAA Division 1 men's basketball we're talkin about, right?

And you are aware that the NCAA selection committee factors in injuries into team performance especially if that team plays like an NCAA Tournament team, and has the record of an NCAA Tournament worthy team, when healthy, right? So, taking into account that UK played virtually half the season without 2 key players, and has had countless injuries to many more key players, you have to like their chances if they keep it going.

Fact is, the Cats are coming on at the right time (as is UofL). If the Cats have all their players healthy for the stretch run, I would be willing to bet they'll finish 18-11 reg. season and win at least 2 games in the SEC Tourney, which gets them in the NCAA Tourney. And from there, its anybody's ball-game.

I know it frustrates the heck out of you that you can't have just a little more than 1 or 2 months of the University of Kentucky struggling to find its way and losing some games that they don't normally lose. Well, those times are over, and the Cats are only going to get stronger from here.

I'm sorry, its just the way it is.

"BCS" or "Major" implys the exact same thing. Its the same in both sports where after the sixth conference it is a pretty big drop off.

I think it is obvious if UK keeps winning they can still earn an at-large birth, but the committee really isnt that sympathetic to injuries. It can bump you up maybe a seed, but the fact is you lost to Gardner Webb at near full-strength, same with San Diego. There are few teams on the bubble that will have TWO losses like that. The Vandy and Tennessee games showed signs for encouragement, but there wasnt much to be pleased about yesterday besides the W. The road record is still not impressive either, same 3-7 vs the top 100. At the end of the year you may be playing as well as seeds 7+, but the committee wont ignore what happened before January.

Unless you get 20 wins, i think you need the SEC tourney championship. But i agree that if you get in, who knows...

4thecards
02-08-2008, 07:36 AM
We're 11-9 smart guy. Ranked 99 in RPI last time I checked.

99th isn't going to get you into the NCAA tournament. I think UK has to win it to get in it.

UK is playing much better, I'll give them that, but it may be too little, too late.

RCS
02-08-2008, 10:58 AM
We have had this conversation about a 100 times on here but I will say again. I have never seen a team go 12-4 in a major conference and not get an at large bit. I haven't looked it up but I would be willing to bet it have never happened. If UK goes 12-4 with wins over a top 10 UT and other quality wins in the SEC they will get in as an at large. We are a long way from 12-4, but 8-2 down the stretch is not a crazy thing to ask. We do that and we are in the NCAA. We would be 18-11 at that point. It of course would help to win a few SEC tourney games but I don't think mandatory. We do not have to get to 20 wins but I wouldn't be suprised if we did. Also if we manage to go 12-4 our RPI will probably rise into the mid 40's I would guess, solidly in the tourney based on past history. Plus our road record would have to improve. Lots of things left to do but not out of the question and doesn't require wining the SEC tourney IMO.

I have no idea about UL. They take so many bad shots and have so many streaky shooters that anyone can beat them but if they are hot they are tough to handle. I still think they are too inconsistant and frankly dumb(basketball IQ wise) to make much noise down the stretch. They do have a ton of talent though so who knows.

UF has no shot at the SEC title. Too young and inexperienced. If everyone comes back though they are going to be a monster next year.

JZTN
02-08-2008, 11:40 AM
Will UK win the NIT?

As long as they don't run into powers like San Diego and Gardner-Webb they should be fine.

TrueblueCATfan
02-08-2008, 11:45 AM
nevermind.I said I was not posting on here and I think I will stick to it

chworld22
02-08-2008, 01:49 PM
99th isn't going to get you into the NCAA tournament. I think UK has to win it to get in it.

UK is playing much better, I'll give them that, but it may be too little, too late.

There is no way they have to win the SEC to get into the NCAA all they have to do it maintain there place in the league right now. Second in the east with one maybe two more loses before the conference tourney will get them in for sure. This is still UK and that name carries alot of weight regardless of what you guys think. They may say that the teams name doesn't come into play but they would be lying. UK is BIG ratings and big revenue in whatever city they play in. Besides if UK finishes with the same record or even a loss behind another team with a lesser rep they get in and the other team does not.

4thecards
02-08-2008, 05:44 PM
There is no way they have to win the SEC to get into the NCAA all they have to do it maintain there place in the league right now. Second in the east with one maybe two more loses before the conference tourney will get them in for sure. This is still UK and that name carries alot of weight regardless of what you guys think. They may say that the teams name doesn't come into play but they would be lying. UK is BIG ratings and big revenue in whatever city they play in. Besides if UK finishes with the same record or even a loss behind another team with a lesser rep they get in and the other team does not.

UK has more bad losses than good wins. UT, Vandy are really the only good wins you have. On the other hand, losses to GW, SD, UAB and Houston are going to hurt. One thing helping you is that the SEC is very weak (sixth ranked conference) and will probably send four or five teams. If UK can stay ahead of the other weak teams in the SEC, they should have a decent shot at getting in.

Check out the latest Bracketology, UK is nowhere in sight. There aren't many teams out there, regardless of their name, with an RPI rank hovering around 100 that are going to make the tournament.

Russ24ky
02-08-2008, 06:13 PM
Will UK win the NIT?

As long as they don't run into powers like San Diego and Gardner-Webb they should be fine.

Knee?

lilproUK98
02-08-2008, 07:44 PM
UK has more bad losses than good wins. UT, Vandy are really the only good wins you have. On the other hand, losses to GW, SD, UAB and Houston are going to hurt. One thing helping you is that the SEC is very weak (sixth ranked conference) and will probably send four or five teams. If UK can stay ahead of the other weak teams in the SEC, they should have a decent shot at getting in.

Check out the latest Bracketology, UK is nowhere in sight. There aren't many teams out there, regardless of their name, with an RPI rank hovering around 100 that are going to make the tournament.

You are completely missing the point. Nobody is claiming that UK would get in NOW. And, by the way, the UAB and Houston losses aren't BAD losses at all. The GW and SD losses are, without a doubt. They have to keep winning to get in, so naturally their RPI will go up...that's a bi-product of winning.

UK shouldn't be anywhere in sight in the latest bracketology right now, but we are talking about the FUTURE. And there is no doubt that, if the recent trend continues (and there is no reason to say that it wouldn't if UK can stay healthy the rest of the way), the Cats are more than capable of going 12-4 in the SEC and tacking on a couple wins in the SEC Tourney. That's 20-12. That, my friend, gets them in. Now, of course there is always the possibility that they don't stay healthy and struggle to get to say, 16-13 or 17-12 reg season. Then they would likely have to win the SEC Tournament.

But like I said, the Cats are trending up and getting stronger, so we'll see what happens.

chworld22
02-08-2008, 09:27 PM
UK has more bad losses than good wins. UT, Vandy are really the only good wins you have. On the other hand, losses to GW, SD, UAB and Houston are going to hurt. One thing helping you is that the SEC is very weak (sixth ranked conference) and will probably send four or five teams. If UK can stay ahead of the other weak teams in the SEC, they should have a decent shot at getting in.

Check out the latest Bracketology, UK is nowhere in sight. There aren't many teams out there, regardless of their name, with an RPI rank hovering around 100 that are going to make the tournament.

The bracketology means absolutely nothing. Those are speculations not what is going to happen.

UK has some work to do but they can easily do it. UK is one of the top three best teams in the conference without a doubt when they get all of their players back for a game or two there will be some teams that will be surprised by UK.

chworld22
02-08-2008, 09:28 PM
You are completely missing the point. Nobody is claiming that UK would get in NOW. And, by the way, the UAB and Houston losses aren't BAD losses at all. The GW and SD losses are, without a doubt. They have to keep winning to get in, so naturally their RPI will go up...that's a bi-product of winning.

UK shouldn't be anywhere in sight in the latest bracketology right now, but we are talking about the FUTURE. And there is no doubt that, if the recent trend continues (and there is no reason to say that it wouldn't if UK can stay healthy the rest of the way), the Cats are more than capable of going 12-4 in the SEC and tacking on a couple wins in the SEC Tourney. That's 20-12. That, my friend, gets them in. Now, of course there is always the possibility that they don't stay healthy and struggle to get to say, 16-13 or 17-12 reg season. Then they would likely have to win the SEC Tournament.

But like I said, the Cats are trending up and getting stronger, so we'll see what happens.

Exactly!!!

4thecards
02-09-2008, 06:52 AM
You are completely missing the point. Nobody is claiming that UK would get in NOW. And, by the way, the UAB and Houston losses aren't BAD losses at all. The GW and SD losses are, without a doubt. They have to keep winning to get in, so naturally their RPI will go up...that's a bi-product of winning.

UK shouldn't be anywhere in sight in the latest bracketology right now, but we are talking about the FUTURE. And there is no doubt that, if the recent trend continues (and there is no reason to say that it wouldn't if UK can stay healthy the rest of the way), the Cats are more than capable of going 12-4 in the SEC and tacking on a couple wins in the SEC Tourney. That's 20-12. That, my friend, gets them in. Now, of course there is always the possibility that they don't stay healthy and struggle to get to say, 16-13 or 17-12 reg season. Then they would likely have to win the SEC Tournament.

But like I said, the Cats are trending up and getting stronger, so we'll see what happens.


I'm not saying UK is not going to get in. What I'm saying is that with an RPI of 100, it is going to be hard for you to get in. And I'm also saying that being in a very watered down SEC is going to help UK's chances. If UK beats the rest of the teams on the schedule that they are supposed to beat and goes at least 2-2 with UT, Florida, Vandy and Mississippi, I think you get in.

Yuleofell
02-09-2008, 09:14 AM
17 replies, and still without a new thread.

P.S. The odds are still stacked against Uk making the NCAA, but who knows, Uk sells a lot of tickets. Florida is young and improving every game. I think they win the SEC tourney.

PJ
02-09-2008, 10:35 AM
Hah, Old RP just said the best team ever was the 96 championship team. As much as I love to dislike him, the man gives credit where credit is due.

Of course it was his team too, lol.

Back2backGaylordsRULE!
02-10-2008, 01:27 PM
What's with all the essay like posts that nobody on the smack board is going to take the time to read. Bottom line, is 3 more losses or you better win the $EC. Uk will NOT get in with 12 losses....PERIOD. Not playing in the #5 conference with a terrible OOC record.

BrassowFan
02-10-2008, 01:34 PM
What's with all the essay like posts that nobody on the smack board is going to take the time to read. Bottom line, is 3 more losses or you better win the . Uk will NOT get in with 12 losses....PERIOD. Not playing in the #5 conference with a terrible OOC record.

You might be right, it all just depends on how we finish the season. If we can have less than 2 more losses during conference play, and make a nice run in the SEC tournament, I think we're in. That contains a lot of factors and I won't be shocked if we don't, but I like the direction we're going in right now.

Back2backGaylordsRULE!
02-10-2008, 01:48 PM
You might be right, it all just depends on how we finish the season. If we can have less than 2 more losses during conference play, and make a nice run in the SEC tournament, I think we're in. That contains a lot of factors and I won't be shocked if we don't, but I like the direction we're going in right now.


Yes, Kentucky is playing better basketball. That is a fact. But don't let a very bad SEC cloud your judgement too much. Your 5 game streak is against teams with a combined record of 68-44. Throw out the one good team you beat and it falls to 47-42. You aren't blowing these teams out either. Your average margin of victory is 6 points. You guys talk about this amazing turn around, but it's funny that it mysteriously occured once you hit conference play.

Russ24ky
02-10-2008, 02:30 PM
Yes, Kentucky is playing better basketball. That is a fact. But don't let a very bad SEC cloud your judgement too much. Your 5 game streak is against teams with a combined record of 68-44. Throw out the one good team you beat and it falls to 47-42. You aren't blowing these teams out either. Your average margin of victory is 6 points. You guys talk about this amazing turn around, but it's funny that it mysteriously occured once you hit conference play.

Knee..

Come on

The committe does not not at the the score of games

just what did you do your last 10-12 games
IF
IF this teams goes 8-4
Watch now..
WERE NOT IN"

If we go
10-2
Were PROBABLY gonna get in

We have 5 weeks till Selection Sunday

THEY want HOT teams going into Selection Sunday

Yes the look at the overall picture but they are a WHAT HAVE YOU DONE FOR ME LATELY comittee

If UK makes it to the SEC championship game

I say were still in

WE MUST.. MUST.. 1. Win the SEC East or 2nd

2. Win 2 games in the SEC tourney

If not WERE NIT BOUND..PLAYING.. TUBBY SMITH AND MINNESOTA

YOU HEARD IT HERE 1st