Heart, Hustle and Determination

[catfan02]

Billy G should be SEC coach of the year. Losing a stud like Patterson and playing without arguably the best shooter on the team in Meeks for most of the season, UK came within a shot of beating #1 Tenn. He is an excellent bench coach, motivator, leader and hopefully recruiter. Come on down Hopson and watch Billy G bring us back to the top!!! Even if we don't make the tourney, I'm still really impressed with the transformation I've seen.

[John Clay Rice Jr.]

Billy G should be SEC coach of the year. Losing a stud like Patterson and playing without arguably the best shooter on the team in Meeks for most of the season, UK came within a shot of beating #1 Tenn. He is an excellent bench coach, motivator, leader and hopefully recruiter. Come on down Hopson and watch Billy G bring us back to the top!!! Even if we don't make the tourney, I'm still really impressed with the transformation I've seen.
Yeah baby!!!!!!

[TrueblueCATfan]

What a gutty performance to day by the CATS..no Patterson Meeks and Crawford on the bench in foul trouble and they play their hearts out
now I have one last thing to say


GO VILLANOVA

[BigRed]

Never in my wildest dreams would I believe that THE University of Kentucky would be celebrating losing to UT.
Coach of The Year?? LMAO!:icon_lol: :icon_lol: I'm glad that you've lowered your standards.:icon_redface:

[TrueblueCATfan]

[quote=BigRed;412033]Never in my wildest dreams would I believe that THE University of Kentucky would be celebrating losing to UT.
Coach of The Year?? LMAO!:icon_lol: :icon_lol: I'm glad that you've lowered your standards.:icon_redface:[/quote

CN..we beat them already when they were ranked 3rd in the country..and nobody said anything about celebrating..we are talking about having heart and guts in the game today..we were without Patterson Meeks and crawford for most part.............you remember how it is..when you did not have Padgett you lost to Purdue and Dayton

[BigRed]

Yeah baby!!!!!!:icon_lol:

[John Clay Rice Jr.]

:icon_lol:
I was not celebrating the loss. I was celebrating the effort we made and the way we played. I'm proud. Also I have a pretty good feeling we will see them again in SEC Tourney.

[catfan02]

Wildcat envy!

[catfan02]

wrong thread

[PitinoLooksBetterInRed]

Billy G should be SEC coach of the year. Losing a stud like Patterson and playing without arguably the best shooter on the team in Meeks for most of the season, UK came within a shot of beating #1 Tenn. He is an excellent bench coach, motivator, leader and hopefully recruiter. Come on down Hopson and watch Billy G bring us back to the top!!! Even if we don't make the tourney, I'm still really impressed with the transformation I've seen.

Sure you were one shot from beating Tennessee, but you have also been one shot from losing to 4 or 5 100+ teams the past month. Of course "a win is a win", but a loss isnt always a loss i guess.

[4thecards]

Why would you post this on the R&R forum? Are you looking for a pat on the back from we UofL fans?

Good job, you played UT down to the wire, but even before the game, there's no way you could convince me that UT is the #1 team in the country. I would put them somewhere between 10th and 15th. Let me put it this way, I honestly don't think UofL would have any trouble beating UT.

TBCF, you're always pulling for the wrong team....lol!

[markdown]

Wildcat envy!


yeah the Cards are envious of the stellar 16-11 Cats.

[chworld22]

Why would you post this on the R&R forum? Are you looking for a pat on the back from we UofL fans?

Good job, you played UT down to the wire, but even before the game, there's no way you could convince me that UT is the #1 team in the country. I would put them somewhere between 10th and 15th. Let me put it this way, I honestly don't think UofL would have any trouble beating UT.

TBCF, you're always pulling for the wrong team....lol!

If they are 10th to 15th then Gtown is right there with them. Notre Dame is a freakin joke as well. You guys talk about how good the Big East is and they are one of the most overrated leagues in the country if not THE most overrated league in the country.

[chworld22]

yeah the Cards are envious of the stellar 16-11 Cats.

I wouldn't think you are envious of that record but I bet you wouldn't mind having a few of those championships. To this you will reply with something about them being old which is true but they are still championships and I am sure that UL wouldn't mind having a couple of them hanging from the rafters at Cheatum Hall.

[TrueblueCATfan]

[quote=4thecards;412325]Why would you post this on the R&R forum? Are you looking for a pat on the back from we UofL fans?

Good job, you played UT down to the wire, but even before the game, there's no way you could convince me that UT is the #1 team in the country. I would put them somewhere between 10th and 15th. Let me put it this way, I honestly don't think UofL would have any trouble beating UT.

TBCF, you're always pulling for the wrong team....lol![/quote

I never pull for you birds....surely you know that by now

[catfan02]

the fact that you are on here proves my point! OBSESSION!

[4thecards]

If they are 10th to 15th then Gtown is right there with them. Notre Dame is a freakin joke as well. You guys talk about how good the Big East is and they are one of the most overrated leagues in the country if not THE most overrated league in the country.

If UK were in the Big East, they'd be fighting just to get in the Conference tournament right now, let alone the NCAA tournament. UT is the only team in the SEC that has done anything on a national level this season and UK is benefiting from being in one of the weakest conferences in the country.

There's no doubt in my mind that Pitt, Notre Dame, Villanova, Marquette or any team in the top ten of the Big East would be leading the SEC right now.

[chworld22]

If UK were in the Big East, they'd be fighting just to get in the Conference tournament right now, let alone the NCAA tournament. UT is the only team in the SEC that has done anything on a national level this season and UK is benefiting from being in one of the weakest conferences in the country.

There's no doubt in my mind that Pitt, Notre Dame, Villanova, Marquette or any team in the top ten of the Big East would be leading the SEC right now.

You would be WRONG there is no way that any of those teams you mentioned would be leading the SEC. None of those teams would be able to beat UT or Vandy for that matter. None of them have the ability to stop UT or Vandy. Notre Dame can't cover a chair, Marquette would have the best shot but they have lost to every good team they have played, Pitt come on do I even need to come up with reasons for that one.

You are just saying things without any reasons for backing it up. UT beat Memphis the then number one team in the nation and has only lost three games all year what on earth makes you think that any team in the Big East top ten would be able to lead them in the SEC?

[4thecards]

You would be WRONG there is no way that any of those teams you mentioned would be leading the SEC. None of those teams would be able to beat UT or Vandy for that matter. None of them have the ability to stop UT or Vandy. Notre Dame can't cover a chair, Marquette would have the best shot but they have lost to every good team they have played, Pitt come on do I even need to come up with reasons for that one.

You are just saying things without any reasons for backing it up. UT beat Memphis the then number one team in the nation and has only lost three games all year what on earth makes you think that any team in the Big East top ten would be able to lead them in the SEC?

5 teams from the Big East in the top 25 as opposed to 2 from the SEZ. I rest my case.

[chworld22]

5 teams from the Big East in the top 25 as opposed to 2 from the SEZ. I rest my case.

None of them as high at UT and you said that any of them would be leading the SEC so if you want to use the top 25 as your measuring stick then you would be wrong still. Since UT is ranked higher than any of them.

[catfan02]

that has produced the past two national champions in both major sports. That conference we play in really sucks!! Puhleeeessse!

[TrueblueCATfan]

I am thinking the same thing Catfan02....the last 2 years we have produced the National champion in BOTH sports
god the SEC sucks:icon_rolleyes::icon_rolleyes::icon_rolleyes:

[cardsnolesfan]

Sure you were one shot from beating Tennessee, but you have also been one shot from losing to 4 or 5 100+ teams the past month. Of course "a win is a win", but a loss isnt always a loss i guess.

Hmmm, no response to this fact. Whaddya say, Cat fans?

[chworld22]

Hmmm, no response to this fact. Whaddya say, Cat fans?

First off it isn't a fact because we haven't had 4 or 5 games decided by less than a shot. And UL was one shot away from losing to Pitt does that count as a loss?

[Ukosumu]

5 teams from the Big East in the top 25 as opposed to 2 from the SEZ. I rest my case.

16 teams with a regional bias from ESPN. 5 in the top 25 seems about par for the course.

Conference Winning % - Big Least .603 SEC .626

[4thecards]

16 teams with a regional bias from ESPN. 5 in the top 25 seems about par for the course.

Conference Winning % - Big Least .603 SEC .626

Well, if you don't want me to use the human polls, how about the RPI? That one has 7 Big East teams to the SEC's 1.

But I guess Sagarin's computer is biased too, huh?

[4thecards]

First off it isn't a fact because we haven't had 4 or 5 games decided by less than a shot. And UL was one shot away from losing to Pitt does that count as a loss?

They hit a three as time expired to close it to two points. It was over already. Besides, Pitt would beat UK AND UT.

[chworld22]

They hit a three as time expired to close it to two points. It was over already. Besides, Pitt would beat UK AND UT.

LOL that is hilarious. You can not possibly believe that. That is like me saying Arkansas can beat UL or Gtown. There is no way on gods green earth Pitt beats UT. UK anybody has a chance at beating UK but there is no way Pitt beats UT.

How would they beat them? Please enlighten me. I would love to hear this reasoning. I am sure that I won't get my wish since there is no reason for you to say it.

[chworld22]

Well, if you don't want me to use the human polls, how about the RPI? That one has 7 Big East teams to the SEC's 1.

But I guess Sagarin's computer is biased too, huh?

Well according the the RPI the SEC is right behind the Big Least. I bet that just chaps your hide in a down year.

http://www.warrennolan.com/

[Radiated]

If UK were in the Big East, they'd be fighting just to get in the Conference tournament right now, let alone the NCAA tournament. UT is the only team in the SEC that has done anything on a national level this season and UK is benefiting from being in one of the weakest conferences in the country.

There's no doubt in my mind that Pitt, Notre Dame, Villanova, Marquette or any team in the top ten of the Big East would be leading the SEC right now.

Ummm, I think Vandy has done something on a National level.

Pitt, Villanova, and Marquette are all over rated. Are they good? Yes.

[PitinoLooksBetterInRed]

None of them as high at UT and you said that any of them would be leading the SEC so if you want to use the top 25 as your measuring stick then you would be wrong still. Since UT is ranked higher than any of them.

Look who Tennessee has to play in the SEC. They've played 4 teams in the top 50 in the SEC. Louisville has to play 8, 5 in the top 25. Thats why UT is ranked higher. It would be a cakewalk for Louisville in the SEC if they switched with Tennessee. We'd have maybe one conference loss.

[jh4uk]

amazing i love the fact the there are two maybe three uofl fans who contribute to this site and they keep talking about the same stuff. get over it. louisville will never be as good as kentucky and never will be. yes i understand there will a year or two they have a better season, but in the long run... the cards are just an after thought. they will always be known as the other team from kentucky. best of luck in the big least tourny and if we are fortunate to make it to the big dance, i hope for the cards sake you guys go further then we do... just so you can have one more year of talking trash. it will be over very SOON!!!

[chworld22]

Look who Tennessee has to play in the SEC. They've played 4 teams in the top 50 in the SEC. Louisville has to play 8, 5 in the top 25. Thats why UT is ranked higher. It would be a cakewalk for Louisville in the SEC if they switched with Tennessee. We'd have maybe one conference loss.

First off I never said anything about UL PLB. He said that Pitt, Marquette, and ND would beat UT (or anybody in the top ten in the Big East which UL but he didn't mention them specifically). I couldn't say for sure if UT would beat UL probably not not as of right now but I know for sure the Pitt, Marquette, ND, and the other 9 teams he mentioned would have a hard time of it.

But if you want to bring UL into the fold you can bring all that up but I noticed how you left UT's out of conference out of that equation. Because they have also played Texas(5), Memphis(2), Xavier(6), Western Kentucky, Gonzaga, and West Virginia all top 50 schools in the RPI. Three of which are in the top 10 to go along with Vandy twice who is in the top 10 as well (making them 5-2 against the top 10)! They have a SOS of 2 where are UL's is a respectable 11.

OUCH that has got to hurt!

[4thecards]

amazing i love the fact the there are two maybe three uofl fans who contribute to this site and they keep talking about the same sh!t. get over it. louisville will never be as good as kentucky and never will be. yes i understand there will a year or two they have a better season, but in the long run... the cards are just an after thought. they will always be known as the other team from kentucky. best of luck in the big least tourny and if we are fortunate to make it to the big dance, i hope for the cards sake you guys go further then we do... just so you can have one more year of talking trash. it will be over very SOON!!!

Keep telling yourself that. UofL is right outside the top ten. In first place in the toughest conference in the nation, and beat UK without one of it's best players. You UK fans have such an inflated image of your team. The sad part is, you are the only ones who share that image. The rest of the nation looks at your team as a has been, an also ran. What has UK done since Pitino's players left? Nothing. No Final Fours, No Championships. Matter of fact, take Pitino away from UK and there hasn't been a Championship since '78.

[Ukosumu]

Keep telling yourself that. UofL is right outside the top ten. In first place in the toughest conference in the nation, and beat UK without one of it's best players. You UK fans have such an inflated image of your team. The sad part is, you are the only ones who share that image. The rest of the nation looks at your team as a has been, an also ran. What has UK done since Pitino's players left? Nothing. No Final Fours, No Championships. Matter of fact, take Pitino away from UK and there hasn't been a Championship since '78.


And compared to that UL has done what?

[TrueblueCATfan]

[quote=4thecards;413084]Keep telling yourself that. UofL is right outside the top ten. In first place in the toughest conference in the nation, and beat UK without one of it's best players. You UK fans have such an inflated image of your team. The sad part is, you are the only ones who share that image. The rest of the nation looks at your team as a has been, an also ran. What has UK done since Pitino's players left? Nothing. No Final Fours, No Championships. Matter of fact, take Pitino away from UK and there hasn't been a Championship since '78.[/quote

duh..we won is 98 with Tubby..and before you start the crap about it being with Pitino's players STOP...Tubby coached he won

and what has Loserville done since Crum left.......let me see..2 NIT'S and 1 FF ( where you got blown out might I add)

[catfan02]

That's like saying take away Crum and you have ZERO championships. UK made Rick Pitino and he knows it. He is always comparing his days at UL to his days at UK. If I remember correctly Tubby went undefeated in the SEC not too long ago (something even Florida couldn't do the past two seasons) and was the OVERALL #1 seed going into the tournament TWICE this decade. Has UL EVER been the overall #1 seed in the tournament (NO I'm not talking NIT) Case closed!

[4thecards]

That's like saying take away Crum and you have ZERO championships. UK made Rick Pitino and he knows it. He is always comparing his days at UL to his days at UK. If I remember correctly Tubby went undefeated in the SEC not too long ago (something even Florida couldn't do the past two seasons) and was the OVERALL #1 seed going into the tournament TWICE this decade. Has UL EVER been the overall #1 seed in the tournament (NO I'm not talking NIT) Case closed!

If UK made Pitino, How come UK hasn't done anything since he left? You don't want to say that Tubby had Pitino's players when he won his championship, but you want to blame Tubby for the players he left Billy Clyde. How is that different?

I'm just saying, take away the Pitino years at UK and the last FF was in '78. Like it or not, it's true. Yes, UK has gotten the number one overall seed in the tournament while under Tubby, but flamed out in the second round each time.

[TrueblueCATfan]

[quote=4thecards;413333]If UK made Pitino, How come UK hasn't done anything since he left? You don't want to say that Tubby had Pitino's players when he won his championship, but you want to blame Tubby for the players he left Billy Clyde. How is that different?

I'm just saying, take away the Pitino years at UK and the last FF was in '78. Like it or not, it's true. Yes, UK has gotten the number one overall seed in the tournament while under Tubby, but flamed out in the second round each time.[/quote

and where did you flame out the last 2 years:eek:

I have never blamed Tubby for anything that has happened this year..he is NOT our coach..and he won the title in 98 because he was our coach..the COACH is responsible for what happens when he is the coach

[4thecards]

[/quote and where did you flame out the last 2 years:eek:[/QUOTE]

UofL didn't have the #1 overall seed and a cakewalk to the Final Four. 2005 Final Four, UK hasn't been there in a decade.

[lighthouse]

First and formost I think jh4uk should apologize for the potty mouth statement made on this thread. Not necessary. :thumbdn:

And then, uavel fans, I understand you feeling your oats right now, but you best get your licks in while you can because maybe as early as next year you will be singing a different tune. If not next year, it's coming and you can feel it.

[chworld22]

[/quote and where did you flame out the last 2 years:eek:

UofL didn't have the #1 overall seed and a cakewalk to the Final Four. 2005 Final Four, UK hasn't been there in a decade.[/quote]

And UL hasn't won one in over a decade. Enjoy your fourth place banner.

[TrueblueCATfan]

[/quote and where did you flame out the last 2 years:eek:

UofL didn't have the #1 overall seed and a cakewalk to the Final Four. 2005 Final Four, UK hasn't been there in a decade.[/quote]


and YOU have NOT won it all in over 22 years.....I will take our 7 national championships to your 2 any ole day

[jh4uk]

First and formost I think jh4uk should apologize for the potty mouth statement made on this thread. Not necessary. :thumbdn:

And then, uavel fans, I understand you feeling your oats right now, but you best get your licks in while you can because maybe as early as next year you will be singing a different tune. If not next year, it's coming and you can feel it.

sorry. my bad if i offended you.

[teamchemistry09]

First and formost I think jh4uk should apologize for the potty mouth statement made on this thread. Not necessary. :thumbdn:

And then, uavel fans, I understand you feeling your oats right now, but you best get your licks in while you can because maybe as early as next year you will be singing a different tune. If not next year, it's coming and you can feel it.

No doubt UK will have a better team next year than uofl. UofL will lose some major factors but unlike UK they arent replacing them with fresh talent along with bringing back experience. UL loses Padgett, Palacios, Caracter, Farley. Brings in Samuels. Only bringing back Clark, maybe

UK loses Crawford and Bradley. Brings in Miller and Liggins. Brings back Meeks, Jasper, Harris, Porter

[TrueblueCATfan]

No doubt UK will have a better team next year than uofl. UofL will lose some major factors but unlike UK they arent replacing them with fresh talent along with bringing back experience. UL loses Padgett, Palacios, Caracter, Farley. Brings in Samuels. Only bringing back Clark, maybe

UK loses Crawford and Bradley. Brings in Miller and Liggins. Brings back Meeks, Jasper, Harris, Porter


you forgot Patterson;)

[teamchemistry09]

you forgot Patterson;)

HAHA I meant we lose 2 guards and look at the guards we bring in and bring back. We dont lose any bigs so I didnt put him in there. No way could I forget to mention him when talking about returning players. Hell be without a doubt the best sophomore in the country next year

[PitinoLooksBetterInRed]

No doubt UK will have a better team next year than uofl. UofL will lose some major factors but unlike UK they arent replacing them with fresh talent along with bringing back experience. UL loses Padgett, Palacios, Caracter, Farley. Brings in Samuels. Only bringing back Clark, maybe

UK loses Crawford and Bradley. Brings in Miller and Liggins. Brings back Meeks, Jasper, Harris, Porter

A little bias maybe? You include Porter in who you are bringing back, and you say the only decent player we are bringing back Clark? How about the fact we are returning 4/5 of our starters. T-Will, Smith and Sosa arent chopped liver.

[catfan02]

of Patterson, Meeks, Jasper, Stephenson, Harris, Liggins, Miller and Hopson. Plus a true center so Patterson can play PF!

[BigRed]

WUNY:icon_lol:

[catfan02]

you bird brains didn't think was possible. UK in the big dance this season. Keep the streak going, baby. In a down year, we still make it!!

[TrueblueCATfan]

WOW Cardinalnation..you just gave yourself away ....still using your famous WUNY signature....:cool:

[teamchemistry09]

A little bias maybe? You include Porter in who you are bringing back, and you say the only decent player we are bringing back Clark? How about the fact we are returning 4/5 of our starters. T-Will, Smith and Sosa arent chopped liver.

I only said Clark because he plays the position that you are losing in. Same reason I didnt talk about Patterson Coury and Stevenson. UofL loses Palacios Padgett Farley and Caracter. All big guys. Big guys bringing in is Samuels and big guy returning is Clark. UK loses guards Crawford and Bradley. Brings in guards Miller and Liggins and keeps guards Meeks, Jasper, Porter. Based on who the teams lose and who they have to replace them, UK is in much better position

[PitinoLooksBetterInRed]

I only said Clark because he plays the position that you are losing in. Same reason I didnt talk about Patterson Coury and Stevenson. UofL loses Palacios Padgett Farley and Caracter. All big guys. Big guys bringing in is Samuels and big guy returning is Clark. UK loses guards Crawford and Bradley. Brings in guards Miller and Liggins and keeps guards Meeks, Jasper, Porter. Based on who the teams lose and who they have to replace them, UK is in much better position

Our rotation:
PG: McGee, Sosa (same as this year)
SG: Smith, Knowles (same as this year)
SF: Williams (same) or Clark
PF: Clark (same) or Jennings/Samuels
C: Jennings and Samuels, two 5-star recruits

What makes you think Samuels, who has been recruited just as much as Patterson, wont be able to contribute like him. You guys will improve, but we wont drop down at all. We'll be a top 10 team again next year.