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Is there any validity that Tubby or anyone else on the staff would be leaving at the end of the year. I don't want Tubby to go anywhere but I am not so sure about the assistants. I am just asking.
BIGBLUEFAN4LIFE
03-15-2006, 11:27 AM
ares wrote: Is there any validity that Tubby or anyone else on the staff would be leaving at the end of the year. I don't want Tubby to go anywhere but I am not so sure about the assistants. I am just asking.
I sure hope so!!!!
michael diamond
03-15-2006, 11:58 AM
Please remember these are only rumors, but heard Rigot and Hobbs will be leaving- to be replaced by Rod Barnes and Bobby "Yes, I can help Rondo on his jumper" Hurley.
michael diamond wrote: Please remember these are only rumors, but heard Rigot and Hobbs will be leaving- to be replaced by Rod Barnes and Bobby "Yes, I can help Rondo on his jumper" Hurley.
Bobby? or his dad? That part I'd find hard to believe---too many of us have long memories.
Personally, I'd hate to see Hobbs leave. IMO he contributes hugely to the floor game. Maybe not a recruiter (I think that's why he floundered as a head coach) but a very good X and O's coach.
As much as I like Reggie, I think he has not been able to help the big men improve much at all---certainly not the twin giants who have now finished their 3rd year and are still playing like frosh. And Morris's defensive game is a disaster. After a season and a half, he's still hurting the team terribly with his continuing foul problems. So I would like to see a coachon the bench who could help our big men more.
Secondly, I'd trade Rigot and his questionable recruiting skills for a cheerleading coach---someone who could arouse some emotion and excitement among the players. Heck, I'd even give Dave Baker a try.:lol:
Classof93
03-15-2006, 05:19 PM
I definitely want a change. I want a recruiter on this staff who has a rep for closing the deal. Someone who can direct there recruiting and get this program more organized.
bwright
03-15-2006, 05:43 PM
I think I would like Rod Barnes. He really seems to relate well with players and I believe that is what the team needs.
TOPCAT
03-15-2006, 08:59 PM
Hurley has no coaching experience.He wll not be a coach at ky.
Stretch
03-15-2006, 10:40 PM
How much coaching experience did Reggie Hanson have when Tubby hired him?
ukbob
03-15-2006, 11:44 PM
Stretch wrote: How much coaching experience did Reggie Hanson have when Tubby hired him?
Absolutely none, If I recall.
I don't go for the rumors at all. But I would welcome new blood on the bench. I think Barnes will go to another HC job. Maybe a smaller school.
As for the Hurley rumors.....sorry, not buying it. SOrt of like when Al McGuire was supposedly buying a house in Lexington. But, I would think his addition would be helpful in soe fashion, especially with our guards. Who knows really.
bigbluelife
03-16-2006, 10:20 AM
Bob sorry to disagree with you but I have it on good authority that Hurley has bought a farm right next door to Spurrier!!!!!
Coldstream
03-16-2006, 11:13 AM
bigbluelife wrote: Bob sorry to disagree with you but I have it on good authority that Hurley has bought a farm right next door to Spurrier!!!!!
Sure does have a horse farm. Check out the link:
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Bobby Hurley knows that feeling. As a horse owner, the former All-American basketball player for the Duke Blue Devils has enjoyed the same kind of success at the track that he did in his prolific college and professional basketball careers. With a great love and respect for Thoroughbred racing, and an even greater respect for the competitive aspect of it, Hurley has teamed with noted Thoroughbred trainer, John Dowd, and Lexington, Kentucky-based bloodstock agent Jack Goldthorpe to form Derby Dreams Stables, a team dedicated to buying, developing, and racing top Thoroughbred athletes. And Derby Dreams wants to offer YOU a piece of the action.
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I. Melvin
03-16-2006, 01:30 PM
Hey, I like thoroughbreds, too. Even worked at the Blood-Horse as an undergrad.
But I'm tired of charity cases and nice fits for reasons unrelated to HELPING KENTUCKY WIN BASKETBALL GAMES!!
Give me a young, hungry, innovative offensive savant to help Tubby recharge this program. (Or, just give me Billy Donovan ... )
NC Cat
03-17-2006, 10:15 AM
bigbluelife wrote: Bob sorry to disagree with you but I have it on good authority that Hurley has bought a farm right next door to Spurrier!!!!!But Spurrier coaches at USC, not UK, right?!?So what does buying a horse farm in Kentucky have to do with UK basketball?Are all those Arab sheiksprospective UK assistants?
wildcatcrazy
03-17-2006, 10:28 AM
Melvin,
I agree-regardless of how good a coach that coach Barnes is, he would just be a lateral move from Coach Hobbs.
Said another way, there is nothing wrong with Coach Hobbs--he knows his basketball and is a loyal assistant. The problem is that Rigot (and Tubby) haven't gotten the job done on the recruiting trail---and I think there are multiple reasons for that--and that Hobbs will be sent to the AD's office in some capacity.
Bottom line--we need an ACE recruiter with a passion for UK basketball and this better be someone with youth and energy. (Can you say Joker Phillips?) Then, we need a new assistant coach that Tubby will listen to to change his offensive style to a style more of the great players want to play.
bigbluelife
03-17-2006, 11:37 AM
wildcatcrazy wrote: Melvin,
I agree-regardless of how good a coach that coach Barnes is, he would just be a lateral move from Coach Hobbs.
Said another way, there is nothing wrong with Coach Hobbs--he knows his basketball and is a loyal assistant. The problem is that Rigot (and Tubby) haven't gotten the job done on the recruiting trail---and I think there are multiple reasons for that--and that Hobbs will be sent to the AD's office in some capacity.
Bottom line--we need an ACE recruiter with a passion for UK basketball and this better be someone with youth and energy. (Can you say Joker Phillips?) Then, we need a new assistant coach that Tubby will listen to to change his offensive style to a style more of the great players want to play.
You obviously never read any message board associated with UK last year when rumors were flying EVERWHERE that Spurrier bought a farm here and would take over coaching duties at UK. If you didn't read it- then the sarcasm didn't work.
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WildcatDan
03-17-2006, 12:06 PM
"Will anyone on the staff leave (http://www.wildcatnation.net/forum/view_topic.php?id=17799&forum_id=1)"
As far as I know, no one on the WCN staff is leaving this year. :ggrin:
wildcatcrazy
03-17-2006, 12:57 PM
Bigbluelife,
My response had nothing to do with the reference to Spurrier. Sorry if I mis-led in any way.
I think Hobbs is a good guy--but we need a change--and I think Rigot is not getting the job done in recruiting. That might not be his fault--but given that Coach Smith is not going anywhere and a MAJOR change needs to be made IMO--then Rigot and Hobbs need to go. (I think they should offer Hobbs an adm job in the athletic directors office.)
audacious1
03-17-2006, 01:30 PM
I agree with several posters that our biggest need is in recruiting. Whatever it takes, it need to step up.
What are people's thoughts about possibly Mike Davis as an assistant. He's friends with Tubby right? On the other hand, maybe friends of Tubby aren't what we need. Maybe Tubby goes easy on his pals?
wildcatcrazy
03-17-2006, 02:09 PM
Davis has gone on record that he "hates Kentucky"--kinda hard to sell that to recruits-plus he will easily get a high D-1 job--I heard Arizona State.
Blue Heaven
03-18-2006, 04:23 PM
I personally like Hobbs. Great mind for the game and can always be seen teaching the game to the guys. Unlike Hanson and Rigot. I loved Reggie as a player but he isn't developing any kind of talent here. Hell, outside of the Sophs., and in a way Perry, we have NO TALENT. Scott Rigot. 'Nuff said. I don't care if Hurley is a Dookie or not, I would love to have him on the staff. Anything is a marked improvement over Hanson and Rigot. I have kinda been holding out hope for a few years now that Nolan Richardson would find his way here but as time goes by that seems unlikely. No offense to the guy, but the minute I found out we were getting Rigot I had a bad feeling. That recruiting mecca known as Hawaii couldn't hold onto the next great thing any longer. Bot did the Wildcat program SERIOUSLY whiff on that one!
TOPCAT
03-18-2006, 06:43 PM
Bingo..wildcat dan!
Buddah
03-18-2006, 08:21 PM
I. Melvin wrote:
Give me a young, hungry, innovative offensive savant to help Tubby recharge this program.
My buddy Will Lavender is out there :dude: Though seriously, i agree we need someone who wants to be here, someone young, and who is innovative, but i just don't see tubby going for it right or wrong... i am sorry my friend, but i have thought it as long as he has been here. Innovative means changing not accepting the status quo, Tubby right or wrong, good or bad just isn't going to change.
I, too, love throughbred racing, followed it my whole life, even got a treasured jacket from brookside farms, but your right, no more charity cases of failed coaches looking to pad retirement or people who have a throughbred business and just wants something to occupy their time.
audacious1
03-19-2006, 12:44 PM
Blue Heaven wrote: I personally like Hobbs. Great mind for the game and can always be seen teaching the game to the guys. Unlike Hanson and Rigot. I loved Reggie as a player but he isn't developing any kind of talent here. Hell, outside of the Sophs., and in a way Perry, we have NO TALENT. Scott Rigot. 'Nuff said. I don't care if Hurley is a Dookie or not, I would love to have him on the staff. Anything is a marked improvement over Hanson and Rigot. I have kinda been holding out hope for a few years now that Nolan Richardson would find his way here but as time goes by that seems unlikely. No offense to the guy, but the minute I found out we were getting Rigot I had a bad feeling. That recruiting mecca known as Hawaii couldn't hold onto the next great thing any longer. Bot did the Wildcat program SERIOUSLY whiff on that one!
I don't think Rigot has got the job done either. What are Hurley's creditionals? Where has he been and what are his classes looking like?
Old Blue
03-20-2006, 03:00 PM
I've never been particularly impressed with Rigot. After Hobbs came in we went from Team Turmoil to a 26 wins in a row juggernaut. I like Hobbs. He was a great assistant with Wimp and has also done well with Tubby. If he gets an HC job somewhere then we will obviously need to do something. Otherwise, I have no problem with him staying. The key, key hire is the new S&C coach. That's going to be critical. As for recruiting, the "closer" is ultimately going to be the head coach. But if Hobbs does leave, and you want to do something about recruiting and offense, then I would suggest that we bite the bullet and offer to pay Pelphrey 1/2 million dollars to come here and be our associate head coach for a few years until Tubby retires. Heck, he might even do it just to get a leg up on Travis when the HC opening eventually does come up.
wildcatcrazy
03-21-2006, 08:33 AM
Oldblue,
Not sure aboutthe $500,000 figure but I've advocated hiring Pelphry as an associate head coach-and this was before he won his conference tournament.
We need someone that has a passion for the program, can recruit, is younger and has an offensive mind. Pelphry fills that bill in all respects. Won't happen but I think it would be great!
I. Melvin wrote: Hey, I like thoroughbreds, too. Even worked at the Blood-Horse as an undergrad.
But I'm tired of charity cases and nice fits for reasons unrelated to HELPING KENTUCKY WIN BASKETBALL GAMES!!
Give me a young, hungry, innovative offensive savant to help Tubby recharge this program. (Or, just give me Billy Donovan ... )
Heck, I bred, trained, taught riding, and showed horses for 25 years and I never got any offers from either UK or UofL.
Isn't it funny how Billy had to take so much grief from our boards during some years while he was building?
College basketball is not like football. Very rarely are assistant head coaches hired for major college positions. There are so many smaller schools that there is just no need. For that reason I don't think Pelphry would come here. Maybe if you guaranteed him the head coaching job when Smith left and said Smith would retire or leave at the end of his contract but that is pretty unheard of and ties you into things you may not actually want. I would love nothing more than Pelphrey to come and a be an assistant, I just doubt it happens.
DCWildcat
03-22-2006, 04:45 PM
RCS wrote: College basketball is not like football. Very rarely are assistant head coaches hired for major college positions. There are so many smaller schools that there is just no need. For that reason I don't think Pelphry would come here. Maybe if you guaranteed him the head coaching job when Smith left and said Smith would retire or leave at the end of his contract but that is pretty unheard of and ties you into things you may not actually want. I would love nothing more than Pelphrey to come and a be an assistant, I just doubt it happens.
Excellent point.
The other huge reason why coaches are rarely hired straight out of being an AC is because in football, coordinators do almost everything. In basketball, AC's do very little relative to the HC.
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