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4thecards
03-07-2008, 10:40 PM
I know you all think ESPN hates UK (snicker), but here's what Bilas has to say about the Cat's. I have to say, I agree.



A look at Kentucky's résumé
posted: Friday, March 7, 2008 | Print Entry



Close losses: When a team is touted for close losses that easily could have been wins, don't you also have to accept that close wins could have easily been losses? I will say this again … the only objective standard in sports is winning. If we are going to parse losses, we should expect to parse the wins, too.

Not their fault: Teams in weaker conferences are often heard saying that it is "not their fault" that they are in a weaker league. Well, for teams in a really strong league, it is not their fault that they are in a really tough league and have really tough games. All of that is bluster. If you have a bunch of tough games in your league, you don't need to play as tough a nonconference schedule. If you don't have enough tough games in your league, you need to get enough in the nonconference to prove you can beat good teams. But, if a team didn't beat anybody good during the season, how can they complain? You have to beat somebody good to be considered a contender for an at-large berth. Otherwise, you had better win the automatic bid of the league that it's not your fault that you're in.

Last 12 games: The criterion of the last 12 games is really interesting. It is also stupid. Take Kentucky's last 12 games as an example. If the Wildcats beat Florida in the last game of the regular season, Kentucky will be 10-2 in its last 12 games. However, UK would not have won a game against a team in the RPI top 40 during that stretch, and it would have played only five games against teams ranked in the top 140. Kentucky's best wins came against Arkansas and Ole Miss, and it lost to Vanderbilt by 41 points. Contrast that with Arizona's last 12 games. The Wildcats played only two opponents ranked outside of the RPI top 40 in the last 12 games (Washington at 102 and California at 94), and they have played UCLA twice, Stanford, USC twice, Washington State twice and Arizona State. Arizona is 6-6 in its last 12 games, but one could certainly argue persuasively that Arizona's six wins have been more impressive than Kentucky's 10.

More Kentucky: While the selection committee is looking at the smokescreen of the last 12 games, it should also note that Kentucky has not won a single game on the road against a team ranked in the RPI top 145. In addition, Kentucky's margin of victory this season has been only +3.4 overall, and in the SEC it is +0.3. Kentucky's largest margin of victory was 10 points against Alabama (which played without Richard Hendrix). Alabama is the only team in the RPI top 250 that Kentucky has beaten by double digits in the SEC. Kentucky is not out of it for an at-large bid, but there are a lot of teams in line ahead of the Wildcats … a lot of teams.

Consider this: If you accept that the NCAA Tournament is filled with really good teams, shouldn't a team have to prove it can beat a really good team? The only teams in the NCAA Tournament that get to play lesser teams are the high seeds that are playing against automatic qualifiers. The last few teams in will have to play RPI top 50 teams in the first round. Therefore, isn't it important to have proven that you can beat that caliber of team?

Radiated
03-07-2008, 11:26 PM
Is this not a premium article? And posting the whole article is against copyright laws.

I like Bilas. As for ESPN, they are ACC all the way. UNC, Duke, etc. I never watch them unless a good game is on.

catscan
03-08-2008, 01:01 AM
Is this not a premium article? And posting the whole article is against copyright laws.

I like Bilas. As for ESPN, they are ACC all the way. UNC, Duke, etc. I never watch them unless a good game is on.

Bilas out; the rest has us in.

catfan02
03-08-2008, 07:14 AM
The funny thing is......you can apply that same logic to UL football over the last decade. They played in a weak conference & slid into the BCS by default!

Radiated
03-08-2008, 08:25 AM
The funny thing is......you can apply that same logic to UL football over the last decade. They played in a weak conference & slid into the BCS by default!

How about staying on subject. This one is basketball thread.

PJ
03-08-2008, 08:55 AM
Hubert and Diggers says we're in. Jay has us out.

I'm really not sure though, I wasn't paying attention cause they rode the Duke/UNC game so hard.

Seriously...a countdown?

TrueblueCATfan
03-08-2008, 10:08 AM
who cares what JAY says.last time I checked he is not on the NCAA selection committee

ryanebelhar
03-08-2008, 10:18 AM
Seriously...a countdown?

They have a countdown for every game when Gameday is set up there.

jkeller
03-08-2008, 05:25 PM
They have a countdown for every game when Gameday is set up there.

They had a countdown for the UT-Memphis game this year too. Do they think so little of the American intellect that they can't count on us to just remember to tune in at 9:00?

ryanebelhar
03-08-2008, 05:49 PM
They had a countdown for the UT-Memphis game this year too. Do they think so little of the American intellect that they can't count on us to just remember to tune in at 9:00?

No. The 9:00 game on Saturday is supposed to be the game of the week for ESPN, so a countdown is added to help with the hype. A casual viewer that doesn't follow college basketball as closely as we do may see that and think it must be a good game coming up.

chworld22
03-09-2008, 10:20 AM
Jay Bilas is a moron. You win 10 of 12 games in any good league with the injuries we have and you are doing pretty well. I think it is funny that he wants to almost give us the UF game in order to make his point. If he uses the last 12 games before today then we have beat a one time number one team. Three games before that we beat Vandy a top ten team or atleast a top 15. You can make all the points you want the reality is UK has since SEC play has started only lost 4 games and if they beat UF then they will go into the SEC tourney as a 2 seed and that alone should get them into the NCAA as much as you UL fans hate it.

4thecards
03-09-2008, 12:58 PM
Jay Bilas is a moron. You win 10 of 12 games in any good league with the injuries we have and you are doing pretty well. I think it is funny that he wants to almost give us the UF game in order to make his point. If he uses the last 12 games before today then we have beat a one time number one team. Three games before that we beat Vandy a top ten team or atleast a top 15. You can make all the points you want the reality is UK has since SEC play has started only lost 4 games and if they beat UF then they will go into the SEC tourney as a 2 seed and that alone should get them into the NCAA as much as you UL fans hate it.

FWIW, I think UK gets in. Looks like they are going to beat Florida today which will probably push them over the line, but if you think the S-EZ is a good league, you are delusional. I've never seen a team get away with as much hacking and fouls as UK has today. I guess the S-EZ wants UK in too.

TrueblueCATfan
03-09-2008, 01:00 PM
[quote=4thecards;417172]FWIW, I think UK gets in. Looks like they are going to beat Florida today which will probably push them over the line, but if you think the S-EZ is a good league, you are delusional. I've never seen a team get away with as much hacking and fouls as UK has today. I guess the S-EZ wants UK in too.[/quote

PLEASE are you for real..and you don't think Loserville gets away with fouls.............get over yourself..you birds just can't stand the fact that we get in..and those 2 years you did NOT and went to the NIT...BAW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

chworld22
03-09-2008, 02:42 PM
FWIW, I think UK gets in. Looks like they are going to beat Florida today which will probably push them over the line, but if you think the S-EZ is a good league, you are delusional. I've never seen a team get away with as much hacking and fouls as UK has today. I guess the S-EZ wants UK in too.


I think you need to quit drinking the Big East Kool Aid and read the numbers that were posted earlier (http://www.realtimerpi.com/rpi_conf_Men.html). The Big Least is right behind the SEC. Read it and enjoy.

You are intitled to your opinion but it is wrong and it is not just my opinion it is backed with actual facts and numbers. Your opinion means absolutely nothing in reality and neither does mine but what does matter are the numbers that back up my claims.

Radiated
03-09-2008, 03:28 PM
FWIW, I think UK gets in. Looks like they are going to beat Florida today which will probably push them over the line, but if you think the S-EZ is a good league, you are delusional. I've never seen a team get away with as much hacking and fouls as UK has today. I guess the S-EZ wants UK in too.

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