View Full Version : Powerful 7 man rotation
Mountain Cat
03-26-2008, 11:52 PM
PF, ***** Patrick Paterson, 6'8" 235lb Soph
PG, ***** DeAndre Liggins, 6'5" 200lb Fresh
PF, **** Perry Stevenson, 6'9" 210 lb Jr
SG, **** Jody Meeks, 6'4" 210lb Jr
PG, **** Derrick Jasper, 6'6" 215lb Jr
SF, **** Darius Miller, 6'6" 220lb Fresh
G, ***** Scotty Hopson, 6'5" 190lb Fresh
If Hopson signs with UK, he completes this 7-man rotation which is more than capable of hanging a banner.
cosmonaut
03-26-2008, 11:58 PM
Add Ater Majok and it gets even more powerful
Sticeman
03-27-2008, 12:08 AM
Don't forget about Ramon Harris I think with another year under his belt he will develop into a soid contributor. Which would actually make us a pretty deep team if all falls into place like im hoping
Will Lavender
03-27-2008, 12:28 AM
Darius Miller is going to have a whale of a time beating out Ramon Harris for playing time next year after the solid season Ramon had.
And we're going to add at least one big man, IMO.
Just talking about this shows that there's going to be some competition next season -- which is a VERY GOOD thing. There hasn't been nearly enough battling for PT the last two-plus years at UK. Hard to get better when every man is comfortable with his spot.
bluegrassking
03-27-2008, 01:39 AM
I doubt Galloway is coming to keep The Member company and I agree with will that Harris will be in the mix.
I say we end up very different than this year and go 8-10 deep. I pay no heed to the cut the rotation down school of thought. I love rotating in guy after guy, especially since we are moving to much longer and athletic players that can switch.
Only Patterson plays 30 next year, imo. Look for a bunch of guys around 20 mpg.
SamKat
03-27-2008, 04:57 AM
After watching the 96 Cats beat Syracuse in a much tougher game than I remembered yesterday on ESPN Classics, I see nothing at all wrong with more depth. At times, even Tony Delk, Jeff Sheppard, Antoine Walker, Mike Pope, Anthony Epps, etc. were allowed rest on the bench while many others continued performing. The Wildcat shooting in that second half was not the greatest, but the passing and rebounding were tremendous versus mighty good Syracuse competition.
I have been impressed that, although Michel Porter had much improvement to make, he has done a lot of it. Khoury could still contribute. A. J. Stewart is a bit more than chopped liver. This coach and his staff can effectively use a long bench. If the seven footers can contribute, how sweet it is!
Go coach G and staff! Make us better!
Rootn4UK
03-27-2008, 06:41 AM
That list looks great, but other than Jody and PP, who's gonna score on that team. I was reading somewhere that on 2 times since the 1980's has a team won the NCAA and averaged scoring less than 78 pts/game. Scoring wins ballgames, defense creates blowout wins.
bigblue23
03-27-2008, 07:46 AM
PF, ***** Patrick Paterson, 6'8" 235lb Soph
PG, ***** DeAndre Liggins, 6'5" 200lb Fresh
PF, **** Perry Stevenson, 6'9" 210 lb Jr
SG, **** Jody Meeks, 6'4" 210lb Jr
PG, **** Derrick Jasper, 6'6" 215lb Jr
SF, **** Darius Miller, 6'6" 220lb Fresh
G, ***** Scotty Hopson, 6'5" 190lb Fresh
If Hopson signs with UK, he completes this 7-man rotation which is more than capable of hanging a banner.
This lineup isn't near capable of hanging a banner. you've lost your mind. we'd have to have another big added to it at least.
Realist
03-27-2008, 08:27 AM
One or two key injuries, especially to Patterson or Meeks, and that bunch would have trouble beating a good team. We are going to miss Crawford and Bradley much more than people realize. BCG's offense is built around a scorer who can create, at least it was this year. I've not seen Liggins but I have seen Miller and IMHO he's not going to be an impact player as a freshman like Patterson. Other than Meeks, who on that list is a consistent outside shooter? I think he's still a recruiting class away.
mullet357
03-27-2008, 08:39 AM
Whoa y'all forget about a lot of guys. What about the flurry and porter and stewart?????
JOHN BLUEBLOOD
03-27-2008, 08:43 AM
Darius Miller is going to have a whale of a time beating out Ramon Harris for playing time next year after the solid season Ramon had.
And we're going to add at least one big man, IMO.
Just talking about this shows that there's going to be some competition next season -- which is a VERY GOOD thing. There hasn't been nearly enough battling for PT the last two-plus years at UK. Hard to get better when every man is comfortable with his spot.
But the good thing will is that Darius won't have to come in and play 30 minutes and Harris won't have to play 40. I agree with you, Harris has "Heshimu" potential.
UFWildcat
03-27-2008, 08:54 AM
I have no doubt about that.
They will be more polished and more cohesive. There will be more flow to the offense due to having Gillispie's system in place for over a year. The lack of Senior leadership will be made up with a team that has more able bodies. Gillispie will adjust his system with the personnel that we have.
The team will be mentally tougher. Gillispie had to break this thing down from the beginning this year to build it back up. Now, he is just adding layers. The players that were here last year know what to expect and will help the newcomers to understand and do what is necassary to play basketball under Coach Gillispie.
This team (just like the last and the rest to follow) will take on the persona of Gillispie. That's why we should not be worried.
But I don't think we need to be talking about being Championship contenders at this point. Let's just worry about winning the SEC which I think we can and will do.
WingoCatFan
03-27-2008, 09:19 AM
.....But I don't think we need to be talking about being Championship contenders at this point.....
This is UK we are talking about. If it goes past 3 posts, Championship is going to be mentioned:icon_smile:
Seriously though, not counting Hopson, there are 6 very capable players mentioned in the OP. They failed to mention Stewart, Coury, Porter, Harris, and Galloway. That makes for a total of 11 players that can contribute. Some may not score much, but holding thier own on defense while someone gets a rest can be a big deal.
With the depth that we will have next year, I expect that BCG will extend the defense. A full court man to man will most likely be the norm. That can an will turn into an aggressive trapping defense on a regular basis to create turnovers and easy baskets. I see us scoring 10 to 15 points a game more next year. If the guys improve as much next year as they did this year, we may not be favored to win it all, but we will be in the talk.:icon_mrgreen:
KYISSUPREME
03-27-2008, 09:42 AM
Darius Miller is going to have a whale of a time beating out Ramon Harris for playing time next year after the solid season Ramon had.
And we're going to add at least one big man, IMO.
Just talking about this shows that there's going to be some competition next season -- which is a VERY GOOD thing. There hasn't been nearly enough battling for PT the last two-plus years at UK. Hard to get better when every man is comfortable with his spot.
I am a big Miller fan, but I agree, Will. Another off season should really help Ramon. With his work ethic, he is going to see some minutes. And I think that BCG really likes Ramon, and the leadership qualities he is showing.
bigblue23
03-27-2008, 09:57 AM
Whoa y'all forget about a lot of guys. What about the flurry and porter and stewart?????
RIFLMAO OH MY GOSH are you freakin kidding me lol or were you joking? you were joking right lol? that's a sure fire way to lose a game. Coury, Porter, and Stewart lol. None of them could even start for EKU and would be lucky to start for Morehead. They aren't even good enough to sit on UK's bench.Well Stewart is good enough for a walkon, but that's it. i'm gonna be laughing about that statement all day lol
UFWildcat
03-27-2008, 10:05 AM
RIFLMAO OH MY GOSH are you freakin kidding me lol or were you joking? you were joking right lol? that's a sure fire way to lose a game. Coury, Porter, and Stewart lol. None of them could even start for EKU and would be lucky to start for Morehead. They aren't even good enough to sit on UK's bench.Well Stewart is good enough for a walkon, but that's it. i'm gonna be laughing about that statement all day lol
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Catligula
03-27-2008, 10:16 AM
RIFLMAO OH MY GOSH are you freakin kidding me lol or were you joking? you were joking right lol? that's a sure fire way to lose a game. Coury, Porter, and Stewart lol. None of them could even start for EKU and would be lucky to start for Morehead. They aren't even good enough to sit on UK's bench.Well Stewart is good enough for a walkon, but that's it. i'm gonna be laughing about that statement all day lol
I wish I was this easily amused.
Will Lavender
03-27-2008, 10:42 AM
RIFLMAO OH MY GOSH are you freakin kidding me lol or were you joking? you were joking right lol? that's a sure fire way to lose a game. Coury, Porter, and Stewart lol. None of them could even start for EKU and would be lucky to start for Morehead. They aren't even good enough to sit on UK's bench.Well Stewart is good enough for a walkon, but that's it. i'm gonna be laughing about that statement all day lol
AJ Stewart has a bright future at UK, IMO. And even Michael Porter can play an important role. Both are deserving of scholarships.
DBCAT
03-27-2008, 10:44 AM
RIFLMAO OH MY GOSH are you freakin kidding me lol or were you joking? you were joking right lol? that's a sure fire way to lose a game. Coury, Porter, and Stewart lol. None of them could even start for EKU and would be lucky to start for Morehead. They aren't even good enough to sit on UK's bench.Well Stewart is good enough for a walkon, but that's it. i'm gonna be laughing about that statement all day lol
That post was a little harsh. I think A.J. Stewart is gonna surprise a lot of people while he is at UK. That kid is athletic as he can be, he just needs some work. He will be a very good player before he leaves UK. Porter is just a little slow. The kid goes out there and gives it everything he has, he's a fair shooter, decent ball handler, but just a little slow when it comes to defending those quicker guards. What can you say about Coury. He's just not a great ball player. He does hustle, and he does what his talents allow him to do. I honestly don't see him playing much next year or for the rest of his time at UK, but the team was in a position this year where he had to play some minutes. I'm not gonna dog him on here because he does go out there and try, he just doesn't have the talent of a Patterson or Stevenson. I will stand by what I said about Stewart. That kid is gonna be a big time player at UK the next couple of years.
UFWildcat
03-27-2008, 10:46 AM
AJ Stewart has a bright future at UK, IMO. And even Michael Porter can play an important role. Both are deserving of scholarships.
Both these guys are the glue guys championship teams need.
DBCAT
03-27-2008, 10:47 AM
Both these guys are the glue guys championship teams need.
That's exactly right. I just don't know why some other folks can't see this.
sardiscat
03-27-2008, 11:00 AM
"RIFLMAO OH MY GOSH are you freakin kidding me lol or were you joking? you were joking right lol? that's a sure fire way to lose a game. Coury, Porter, and Stewart lol. None of them could even start for EKU and would be lucky to start for Morehead. They aren't even good enough to sit on UK's bench.Well Stewart is good enough for a walkon, but that's it. i'm gonna be laughing about that statement all day lol"
Your knowledge of basketball is awesome. We are unworthy of your brilliance.
bigblue23
03-27-2008, 11:08 AM
Both these guys are the glue guys championship teams need.
Ya, glued too the bench! lol. I could see Stewart deserving a scholie eventually, but Gillispie wouldn't have offered him. Guarantee it! Nor would have have offered Coury or Porter. Those are Tubby's elite players lol
DBCAT
03-27-2008, 11:12 AM
???
Littlemeyer
03-27-2008, 11:14 AM
Let's try to back off the personal stuff a bit here. :thumbup:
Cory Conley
03-27-2008, 11:28 AM
if we can sign Hopson ad Harrelson or AM then w will be a tough team to beat next year. I cant wait whe does basketball season start.lol
bigblue23
03-27-2008, 12:06 PM
if we can sign Hopson ad Harrelson or AM then w will be a tough team to beat next year. I cant wait whe does basketball season start.lol
Agreed! or Fleming & Harrelson
No one offered Coury but BCG did start him so he obviously likes him. I don't think he will play much next year but I do think Stewart will be very good. I really like his potential. I have no idea if BCG would have recruited him or not but he will help next year and potentially a lot. Look at the jump Stevenson made from FR to So year. I think you will see a similar jump in Stewart. Raw athletic kids can make huge jumps from the FR to So years. Happens all the time.
mcranfill
03-27-2008, 01:43 PM
Don't forget about Ramon Harris I think with another year under his belt he will develop into a soid contributor. Which would actually make us a pretty deep team if all falls into place like im hoping
I think, once we got into the SEC, Harris was a solid contributor this year! He was our BEST defender (IMO) but would agree that with another year he could be a GREAT contirbutor on the offensive end. He is one of the players on the team I the most excited about to watch develop.
UFWildcat
03-27-2008, 01:48 PM
I think, once we got into the SEC, Harris was a solid contributor this year! He was our BEST defender (IMO) but would agree that with another year he could be a GREAT contirbutor on the offensive end. He is one of the players on the team I the most excited about to watch develop.
Harris was the most improved player IMO.
He went from a deer in the headlights to a physical force that made an impact.
bluegrassking
03-27-2008, 01:53 PM
Porter and Stewart are good 10-13 guys, and Stewart may well improve beyond that with his athletic ability but he is VERY raw.
MP is just flat being recruited over and probably eventually will either sit A LOT or maybe find a niche as a shooting specialist (hopefully).
Looking at the type of guys BCG is going after I can't disagree that some of these guys might not have been targets but that doesn't mean that if they work hard they can't fit in at all.
cosmonaut
03-27-2008, 01:55 PM
Ya, glued too the bench! lol. I could see Stewart deserving a scholie eventually, but Gillispie wouldn't have offered him. Guarantee it! Nor would have have offered Coury or Porter. Those are Tubby's elite players lol
I want to see AJ Stewart dunk over you. Just saying...
CatFaninChattanooga
03-27-2008, 02:07 PM
Ya, glued too the bench! lol. I could see Stewart deserving a scholie eventually, but Gillispie wouldn't have offered him. Guarantee it! Nor would have have offered Coury or Porter. Those are Tubby's elite players lol
You don't know if Gillespie would have offered.
You don't know what the future holds for Stewart.
And those players coming in to the program were not considered elite, but as roll players.
As Gillispie said, these are his guys...and as a CAT fan they should be yours too.
bigblue23
03-27-2008, 02:16 PM
You don't know if Gillespie would have offered.
You don't know what the future holds for Stewart.
And those players coming in to the program were not considered elite, but as roll players.
As Gillispie said, these are his guys...and as a CAT fan they should be yours too.
why don't you try reading my freakin post? i said i could see Stewart getting a scholie, but Gillispie wouldn't have offered him.
bigblue23
03-27-2008, 02:18 PM
I want to see AJ Stewart dunk over you. Just saying...
I know he can dunk. Big freakin deal. I know a lot of people who can dunk who couldn't ever play for UK. He wouldn't have been recruited by Billy G.but I can see him developing into a very good player. Marc Coury is the main one that I can't stand to see playing.
bigblue23
03-27-2008, 02:22 PM
You don't know if Gillespie would have offered.
You don't know what the future holds for Stewart.
And those players coming in to the program were not considered elite, but as roll players.
As Gillispie said, these are his guys...and as a CAT fan they should be yours too.
They're only his guys because he had no freakin choice. He's not just gonna roll into town and boot everyone off the team who he thinks sucks. And ya, I do know if Gillispie would've offered. At least I can spell his name lmao. Coury is the exact opposite of the kind of player Billy G. would recruit except that he tries hard. He probably has a good basketball IQ, but that's not gonna do much for him when he's getting the ball shoved down his throat because he moves like a snail and can't get an inch off of the floor lol
Ukosumu
03-27-2008, 02:41 PM
They're only his guys because he had no freakin choice. He's not just gonna roll into town and boot everyone off the team who he thinks sucks. And ya, I do know if Gillispie would've offered. At least I can spell his name lmao. Coury is the exact opposite of the kind of player Billy G. would recruit except that he tries hard. He probably has a good basketball IQ, but that's not gonna do much for him when he's getting the ball shoved down his throat because he moves like a snail and can't get an inch off of the floor lol
I believe someone has to high of an opinion of themselves.
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