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WildcatDan
05-03-2005, 02:10 PM
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WildcatDan
08-29-2007, 04:50 PM
WCN Members,

This page is intended to provide you with a basic understanding of NCAA rules and regulations that you should know as someone who cares about intercollegiate athletics. While this pamphlet does not include all applicable provisions, it does include the most common situations encountered by alumni and friends and the most important rules governing these situations.

Compliance with NCAA rules is of the highest priority for our athletics program and institution. As a member of the NCAA, the University of Kentucky is responsible for the actions of its boosters and fans. Even the best-intentioned action on your part may be a violation of NCAA rules. Please contact the Compliance Office if you have any questions regarding what is permissible. We encourage our boosters and fans to "Ask Before You Act."

Inquires should be addressed to Sandra D. Bell, Assistant Athletics Director, at this address:


University of Kentucky
Room 8 - Memorial Coliseum
Lexington, KY 40506-0019
859/257-6482
Email: sbell@uky.edu (sbell@uky.edu)


If, for any reason, you are uncomfortable reporting a violation or a concern directly to the athletics department, you may use the "ComplyCat" hotline. This is a toll-free phone number that is staffed 24 hours a day, seven days a week, every day of the year, by an independent contractor. The contractor is professionally trained to take your calls about possible violations, or to arrange for you to receive answers to any questions you have about compliance issues. You will be asked to identify yourself; however, you may remain anonymous if you choose to do so. A case number will be assigned to you along with a call-back date to receive information on how the information you have reported has been investigated. The ComplyCat hotline can be reached by dialing 1-866-275-2287


Institutional Control and Compliance
Institutional control of athletics is a fundamental requirement of NCAA Legislation. Specifically, the NCAA constitution provides that each institution shall be responsible for:
Controlling its intercollegiate athletics program in compliance with the rules and regulations of the Association;
Monitoring its program to insure compliance, identifying and reporting to the Association instances in which compliance has not been achieved and taking appropriate corrective actions; and
Insuring that members of the institution's staff, student-athletes and other individuals or groups representing the institution's athletics interest comply with all applicable Association rules.


Representatives of Athletics Interests
A "representative of the institution's athletics interests" is anyone who is known (or should be known) by a member of the institution's executive or athletics administration to:
Be a member of or have participated in any organization promoting the institution's intercollegiate athletics program (i.e., booster club);
Have made any financial contribution to the institution's athletics program or to an athletic booster organization of the institution (i.e., season ticket holder);
Have helped arrange summer and/or vacation period employment for student-athletes or provided benefits to enrolled student-athletes; or
Have been involved, in any way, in the promotion of the University's athletics program.

Note: Once an individual is identified as a representative of the institution's athletics interests, the person retains that identity indefinitely.A Booster's Guide to NCAA Rules
Rules Governing Contacts with Prospects
Note: A prospective student-athlete (prospect) is a person who has started classes for the ninth grade.Do not telephone, write or make in-person contact (either on or off-campus) with a prospective student-athlete for the purpose of soliciting his or her participation in the athletics program.
Do not become directly or indirectly involved in making arrangements for a prospect, the prospect's relatives or friends to receive money or financial aid of any kind.
Do not provide any transportation to prospects, including transportation to campus to attend athletic events.
Do not contact a prospective student-athlete's coach, principal or counselor in an attempt to evaluate the prospect, and do not visit the prospect's educational institution to pick up films or transcripts.
Do not provide free tickets or tickets at a reduced cost to any University of Kentucky home or away event to prospects, their relatives or friends.
Do not pay or offer to pay registration fees for summer sports camps for a prospect.
Do feel free to attend high school and community college athletic events that you would usually attend. You simply cannot have any contact with the prospect or relatives of the prospect. Should the parents or a prospect as you questions, please direct their question to the appropriate coach at UK. If you have incidental contact with a prospect or relatives of the prospect, be sure to contact the compliance office.
Rules Governing Recruiting
Only coaches and athletics department staff members can be involved in the recruiting process. All "athletics representatives" who are not employees of the University of Kentucky are prohibited from contacting a prospect by telephone, letter or in-person, on or off-campus, for the purpose of encouraging participation in athletics at UK.
It is not permissible for prospects, student-athletes or their relatives and friends to receive any extra benefits or special arrangements. Examples of extra benefits that you cannot provide to these individuals include, but are not limited to:
Cash or loans in any amount
Co-signing or arranging a loan
Providing gifts or any kind (e.g., clothing, airline tickets, or holiday cards)
Providing special discounts for goods and services
Use of an automobileAs an athletics representative, you can continue friendships with families with whom you have had a previously established relationship, even after a member of that family becomes a prospect or enrolled student-athlete. You simply cannot encourage a prospect's participation in UK athletics or provide benefits to a student-athlete.


Rules Governing Benefits for Student-Athletes
Do not use the name or picture of a student-athlete to directly advertise, recommend or promote the sale or use of a commercial product or service of any kind.
Do not provide an honorarium to a student-athlete for a speaking engagement. When a student-athlete speaks to educational or charitable groups, actual and necessary travel expenses may be provided if approval is granted by the Compliance Office. Any requests for such an appearance must be made through the Compliance Office.
Do not provide gifts or awards to a student-athlete for his/her athletic performance. All awards must conform with award restrictions and must be approved by the UK Compliance Office.
It is permissible to invite a student-athlete to your home for an occasional meal, but please coordinate such activity with the UK Compliance Office.
If you want pictures or autographs of student-athletes, please attend pre-season events (e.g., Fan Day).


Consequences to Boosters for NCAA Violations
Institutions are required by the NCAA to notify boosters of consequences regarding rules violations. Boosters found in violation of NCAA rules are subject to losing benefits and privileges, including season tickets.
The NCAA Committee on Infractions has processed cases in which penalties have included both the disassociation of boosters with the institution and the loss of season ticket privileges.



Rules Governing Student-Athlete Employment
Do not provide employment to a prospective student-athlete or enrolled student-athlete without first obtaining approval from the UKAA Student Employment Office. This office can assist athletes in obtaining employment during permissible periods.
Do not employ a prospect prior to the completion of the prospect's senior year in high school.
Do not provide transportation for prospects or student-athletes in your employment unless such transportation is provided to all employees.
NCAA rules stipulate that compensation may be paid to a student-athlete only for work actually performed and a rate commensurate with the going rate in that locality for similar services.
Such compensation may not include any remuneration for value or utility that the student-athlete may have for the employer because of publicity, reputation, fame or personal following that he or she has obtained because of athletic ability.

Most Commonly Asked Questions
Q: Is the restriction on contacts with prospects applicable to established family friends and neighbors?
A: No, however, it must be understood that such contacts may not be made for recruiting purposes and are not initiated by a member of the institution's coaching staff.
Q: May a booster attend a public event (e.g., high school awards banquet or dinner) at which prospects are in attendance?
A: Yes, but contact with a prospect or the prospect's family is not permissible.
Q: Is it permissible for a booster to employ or use the name or picture of an enrolled student-athlete to directly advertise, recommend or promote the sale or use of a commercial product or service of any kind?
A: No.
Q: Is it permissible for a booster to provide an enrolled student-athlete with professional services (for which a fee would normally be charged) for personal reasons?
A: No. Professional services provided at a fee less than the normal rate or at no expense to a student-athlete are considered extra benefits.
Q: When does a prospect become considered a student-athlete?
A: A prospect remains a prospect even after signing a National Letter of Intent. A prospect does not become a UK student-athlete until he or she reports for regular squad practice or attends classes in any regular term.



REMEMBER, ASK BEFORE YOU ACT !

WildcatRick
02-10-2009, 05:00 PM
All WCN members are required to not only respect each other, but show respect for the University of Kentucky, its athletic programs, its coaches and players. While constructive criticism is permitted it must be done in a civil manner that demonstrates a basic respect for anyone being discussed or taking part in those discussions.

Name-calling or personal insults/attacks will be removed and are grounds for having board privileges revoked. Remember, this includes WCN members, UK players and coaches. Some UK players have families that visit WCN and they should be able to visit us without seeing their loved ones degraded or belittled.

These terms are not open for debate. If you cannot follow them WCN may not be the place for you. First and foremost we are all fans of the University of Kentucky. Please help make this a better community of, by and for UK fans by following our posting guidelines.

WildcatRick
03-20-2009, 11:18 AM
We are being flooded with rumors from every angle. Everybody has a source they feel is credible enough to post it here. Right now they are coming in faster than anybody can keep up with.

In the past we have always asked for any rumors posted to have a link from a credible media outlet. That includes sites like ESPN, YAHOO!, Sporting News, LHL, Courier-Journal, FOX, etc. It also includes established blogs like Matt Jone's site(KentuckySportsRadio). The links can come from Rivals or Scout as long as its not linked to their forums.


Thanks........

matt colvin
10-30-2009, 01:18 PM
After a discussion among the WCN staff, it has been decided that articles from Jerry Tipton will no longer be allowed to be linked here.

We've come to the conclusion that Tipton writes articles that are damaging to our players, their public images, and our athletics department as a whole. These articles are not simply opposing views or even negative slants to an unideal situation, but are of such nature as to harm our teams. If this is what Tipton must resort to in order to supply interest in his writings, then no interest will be given in the form of site hits due to linkage from this forum.

It has been said that the best way to combat these actions is to ignore them. This is partialy true. By no longer allowing Tipton articles to be linked here, we are taking an action toward limiting his audience.

Thank you for time and consideration, and as always, feel free to direct questions about this policy to any of our staff.

I will leave this thread here for a short time, and then will sticky it to the top of the forum.

TrueblueCATfan
10-30-2009, 01:19 PM
Sounds like a winner to me

BEST news I have heard all day:thumbup::thumbup:

Thank you WCN staff

Kentucky Jim
10-30-2009, 01:20 PM
Excelllent!

Dwight Schrute
10-30-2009, 01:20 PM
Sounds like a good policy to me.

mrkdooley
10-30-2009, 01:22 PM
A great stand!! Let's hope something positive for UK Atheletics comes from this.

catspress
10-30-2009, 01:23 PM
Amen:thumbup:

Catligula
10-30-2009, 01:27 PM
A great decision, IMO. Frankly, I've long tried to avoid clicking on his links from other sites, but I hate to even be tempted.

KENTUCKY11
10-30-2009, 01:28 PM
Tipton who?

diesel
10-30-2009, 01:29 PM
I wouldnt even put his name on here.

IAM4UK88
10-30-2009, 01:37 PM
If you subscribe to LHL, consider dropping them a line or calling: "I will cancel my subscription if [he who shall not be named here] is not fired. You have until 13 November 2009 before I and others take this action."

WildcatRick
10-30-2009, 01:46 PM
I have already read a response from the LHL about Tipton and they are backing him 100%. I had to laugh after reading the response as they tried painting him as one of the top sportswriters in America!!:icon_rolleyes:

riandri
10-30-2009, 01:51 PM
Thank you!!! I have left a message with the Sports Editor at LHL passing along my thoughts as well.

Will Lavender
10-30-2009, 01:51 PM
I have already read a response from the LHL about Tipton and they are backing him 100%. I had to laugh after reading the response as they tried painting him as one of the top sportswriters in America!!:icon_rolleyes:

If that's the same response I saw, then the LHL completely misunderstands what Kentucky fans want out of their sportswriters. I don't care how long the guy has been entrenched in his job or if he's in the hall of fame. I want to read my UK sports news without the subtext Tipton brings to the table almost unfailingly. And let's face it, that subtext is why a lot of journalists get their accolades in the first place.

And that's fine...if Tipton were writing about politics or metro stories or even the crime beat. But he's not. He's writing about basketball. Leave the All the President's Men stuff at home and tell us what went on in the friggin' games.

TrueblueCATfan
10-30-2009, 01:54 PM
Hit them where it hurts..cancel you subscription to the LHL..it is all about $$$$$$$$

I did this about a year ago with the Courier-journal......they now call me very week trying to get me back...this is no lie folks

cumberlandredskin
10-30-2009, 01:56 PM
If that's the same response I saw, then the LHL completely misunderstands what Kentucky fans want out of their sportswriters. I don't care how long the guy has been entrenched in his job or if he's in the hall of fame. I want to read my UK sports news without the subtext Tipton brings to the table almost unfailingly. And let's face it, that subtext is why a lot of journalists get their accolades in the first place.

And that's fine...if Tipton were writing about politics or metro stories or even the crime beat. But he's not. He's writing about basketball. Leave the All the President's Men stuff at home and tell us what went on in the friggin' games.

He should be looking at what Larry Vaught has been writing lately. Good,honest stories about the players and what they are about. LHL could take some lessons from the Danville newspaper,IMO.

Will Lavender
10-30-2009, 01:58 PM
He should be looking at what Larry Vaught has been writing lately. Good,honest stories about the players and what they are about. LHL could take some lessons from the Danville newspaper,IMO.

Vaught has completely owned Tipton for the past year. It's painful to watch.

Which may be part of the reason Tipton's begun to really squirrel around to see if he can dig dirt. He knows he's going to get whipped with the online stuff, he knows the blogs are encroaching upon what he does, he knows the LHL's time is short--might as well try and make waves somehow. What better way than to uncover a stink over in the basketball program?

Maybe I'm just paranoid and reading too much into it, but the guy certainly seems to be looking for a scoop. A bad one. And that transparent desperation infects pretty much all the sportswriting he actually does.

lovemycats
10-30-2009, 01:59 PM
Could'nt ask for a better decision In my opinion I think all of bbn should boycott LH until something is done about this man and his articles

Soldier1969
10-30-2009, 02:19 PM
Gentlemen, and Ladies,

Placing a boycott is newsworthy as well, for that joker - can someone hang the email address to the editor on a thread so we can all voice our individual (or collective) Op Ed or go VFR direct to the editor with our individual concerns. If we cannot get it ran in the herald, there are planty of competitor papers (even outside this market) that will run the story - this is something that readers want (drama) - we just have to have the forethought to understand and acknowledge this is the story we want sold...

mrkdooley
10-30-2009, 02:20 PM
Vaught has completely owned Tipton for the past year. It's painful to watch.

Which may be part of the reason Tipton's begun to really squirrel around to see if he can dig dirt. He knows he's going to get whipped with the online stuff, he knows the blogs are encroaching upon what he does, he knows the LHL's time is short--might as well try and make waves somehow. What better way than to uncover a stink over in the basketball program?

Maybe I'm just paranoid and reading too much into it, but the guy certainly seems to be looking for a scoop. A bad one. And that transparent desperation infects pretty much all the sportswriting he actually does.

No, not paranoid and not reading too much into it. It's like he wants something negative to happen. When is the last time you've seen a positive article about UK from him? I really hope this boycot from Wildcat Nation creates some sort of a future positive for UK Athletics.

catheaven
10-30-2009, 02:44 PM
hahahahahahahahahhahahhaaa LOL

crazzedcats22
10-30-2009, 02:48 PM
Can we still bash Tipton at least?!?!? :icon_biggrin:

crazzedcats22
10-30-2009, 02:49 PM
Vaught has completely owned Tipton for the past year. It's painful to watch.

Which may be part of the reason Tipton's begun to really squirrel around to see if he can dig dirt. He knows he's going to get whipped with the online stuff, he knows the blogs are encroaching upon what he does, he knows the LHL's time is short--might as well try and make waves somehow. What better way than to uncover a stink over in the basketball program?

Maybe I'm just paranoid and reading too much into it, but the guy certainly seems to be looking for a scoop. A bad one. And that transparent desperation infects pretty much all the sportswriting he actually does.

Nailed it! I agree 100%. Tipton sucks, Vaught is great, and Tipton is jealous as hell!!!

leroybyrd
10-30-2009, 02:52 PM
Hooray!!!!!!!!!!!!!

leroybyrd
10-30-2009, 02:54 PM
Tipton and this incident are a microcosm of what is wrong with newspapers and why they began to die a long time ago.

Instead of satisfying their customers, they began chasing awards.

John Clay Rice Jr.
10-30-2009, 03:13 PM
I agree.

Dwight Schrute
10-30-2009, 03:28 PM
Tipton and this incident are a microcosm of what is wrong with newspapers and why they began to die a long time ago.

Instead of satisfying their customers, they began chasing awards.

Eh, I don't think that's it. You read his articles and there's still a thousand comments on them saying "you're a sorry son of a *@$#*%" and the like. The HL doesn't care as long as you're still clicking on a link and satisfying their advertising people. A click is a click, whether you're pissed or proud.

Question - does this policy apply to the Herald-Leader entirely, or just Tipton columns?

WildcatRick
10-30-2009, 03:38 PM
Eh, I don't think that's it. You read his articles and there's still a thousand comments on them saying "you're a sorry son of a *@$#*%" and the like. The HL doesn't care as long as you're still clicking on a link and satisfying their advertising people. A click is a click, whether you're pissed or proud.

Question - does this policy apply to the Herald-Leader entirely, or just Tipton columns?

Currently just Tipton and Mark Story.

Bluesong
10-30-2009, 03:38 PM
+1 Good Call!!

Dwight Schrute
10-30-2009, 03:54 PM
Currently just Tipton and Mark Story.

Why Mark Story, may I ask? I haven't noticed any of his columns.

KCKUKFan
10-30-2009, 04:00 PM
Why Mark Story, may I ask? I haven't noticed any of his columns.

Check a couple of his columns that were written at about the time that Cal was hired. IIRC, he was not fond of the hire at the time and wrote a scathing article about it. I don't care much for him, either.

UKfaninCO
10-30-2009, 04:15 PM
Check a couple of his columns that were written at about the time that Cal was hired. IIRC, he was not fond of the hire at the time and wrote a scathing article about it. I don't care much for him, either.

Well, I don't really have a problem with someone that disagrees. As long as they have a good argument, that's ok. The problem with Tipton is he's stirring up mud looking for the dirt. He is looking for something bad to report, or making insinuations that then lead to argument and doing it poorly. After all, there are different points of view and that's not a bad thing. But doing it just to be spiteful and petty is something else entirely. And, to me, that's Tipton in a nutshell.

The Black Watch
10-30-2009, 04:15 PM
I am glad WCN is taking this stand. If enough of us do things like this, maybe we can get Tipton gone. Not to see anyone out of a job, but he doesn't really merit the one he has. JMO. Great call on this topic, Mods and Admins. Happy to comply. :thumbup:

The Black Watch
10-30-2009, 04:16 PM
Just another thought, but can we include Forde in this, as well? :icon_twisted:

Bluesong
10-30-2009, 04:23 PM
As far as cancelling your subscription to the paper, that will send a message but if you called their advertisers, that will get their attention more than anything. They don't want to be associated with bad press. 10 callers would do more damage than a hundred cancellations.

BCO
10-30-2009, 04:29 PM
I think the Lexington Herlad Leader is CRAP in its entirity. Tipton is just the icing on the cake. Theyre extremly liberal...And as an eastern Kentuckian there has been more than one occassion where I found their bashing of our way of life to be completely unacceptable, like we are sore on the state. I say to hell with the entire paper.

JWORLD
10-30-2009, 04:36 PM
Sounds like a winner to me

BEST news I have heard all day:thumbup::thumbup:

Thank you WCN staff




:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

TrueblueCATfan
10-30-2009, 04:37 PM
Just another thought, but can we include Forde in this, as well? :icon_twisted:

sounds like a winner to me

countrycat
10-30-2009, 04:38 PM
Thats why WCN is the best. I appreciate the ban. Why this man.still has a job is beyond me.:tongue3::tongue3: to Trippin.

tommyshawakaleon
10-30-2009, 04:56 PM
Can you remove the three threads inspired by this a-hole?:icon_biggrin:

Bleedblue1983
10-30-2009, 05:41 PM
Gentlemen, and Ladies,

Placing a boycott is newsworthy as well, for that joker - can someone hang the email address to the editor on a thread so we can all voice our individual (or collective) Op Ed or go VFR direct to the editor with our individual concerns. If we cannot get it ran in the herald, there are planty of competitor papers (even outside this market) that will run the story - this is something that readers want (drama) - we just have to have the forethought to understand and acknowledge this is the story we want sold...

I like this idea does anyone know this information.

RockyBlue
10-30-2009, 06:04 PM
Great post! Thanks WCN!.................Rocky

leroybyrd
10-30-2009, 06:21 PM
Eh, I don't think that's it. You read his articles and there's still a thousand comments on them saying "you're a sorry son of a *@$#*%" and the like. The HL doesn't care as long as you're still clicking on a link and satisfying their advertising people. A click is a click, whether you're pissed or proud.

Question - does this policy apply to the Herald-Leader entirely, or just Tipton columns?

How can someone miss a point so badly???

JWORLD
10-30-2009, 07:07 PM
Can we still bash Tipton at least?!?!? :icon_biggrin:


:icon_biggrin::icon_biggrin:

I am...........................


Does he realize that for the most part over the years that our group of guys have been pretty good citizens on and off the court? I mean, when you play for a program like Kentucky, you can throw the privacy act out the damned window because from day one, your in the spotlight and are under a tremendous amount of pressure especially for a 18 to 19 year old young man. It would be very easy for a player under this intense types of constant scrutinys at all times to just flat out "snap" and "crack".Yet, very rarely do we hear of any such happenings. These young men and student athletes who play here at Kentucky 99% of the time do the right thing. To me that says alot for our program and for our tradition of good players on and off the court.For a jerk like Tipton to keep hounding and harassing our team and our coaches flat out pisses me off the the extreme.It will be a cold day in hell before i ever buy another paper from the LHL................

catheaven
10-30-2009, 07:46 PM
I'm with you on this one. Will never click or read them again and seldom did anyway. They are the last to print a story and poorly written at that. This site is way better and on top of things.

BigblueDrew
10-30-2009, 08:28 PM
As a strict Libertarian I have always opposed censureship of the press. In this case however I HAPPILY make an exception.

Catdaddy24
10-30-2009, 09:45 PM
I applaud WCN's response to Tipton's bull he keeps shoveling. Enough is enough.

Dwight Schrute
10-31-2009, 01:18 AM
How can someone miss a point so badly???

I didn't miss the point at all. You did. Tipton isn't the reason the lhl is dying. Tipton helps th herald leader. When the masses get pissed they click on herald leader links. This policy helps prevent that.

BigBlue75
10-31-2009, 07:39 AM
Just in case anyone is uncertain whether the Tipton/Story ban will be enforced, don't be. A few months ago I slipped up and posted a link to an article by Story (can't remember what it was about), and in short order the thread was deleted and I received a polite but VERY firm PM reminding me of the policy regarding it. So don't worry, if you forget about it, you WILL be reminded. :icon_mrgreen:;)

Dawood Khan
10-31-2009, 08:08 AM
Good Call Fellas

leroybyrd
10-31-2009, 08:16 AM
I didn't miss the point at all. You did. Tipton isn't the reason the lhl is dying. Tipton helps th herald leader. When the masses get pissed they click on herald leader links. This policy helps prevent that.

I'm sorry, maybe I wasn't clear in what I was getting at.

Mine was a larger point that Tipton is symptomatic of the problem that newspapers have which started decades ago and has largely led to their death. It's the mentality that I was speaking about. Tipton and the LHL, like most papers across the country, have an arrogant chasing awards,pulitzer prize, gotcha, make a national splash mentality instead of a serve your customer mentality. They got away with it when they were the only game in town but it is so ingrained in their culture that they cannot get rid of it and begin serving their customers (like Vaught does).

In fact Tipton ultimately hurts the LHL. Yes, their website might get a few more hits for a day or two but the loss of subscribers is what hurts the most. And papers still need subscribers to give their ad space value. The temporary increase in web traffic is not sustainable because the fact is, that most papers are not the best source of news available now because they are not providing what the customer wants. Tipton represents this old, tired, arrogant attitude that has killed papers over the past several decades. I don't know the numbers on the LHL, but the vast majority of papers have bled subscribers for years, making their ad space less valuable. I suspect the same is true of the LHL.

Dr. H Lecter
10-31-2009, 08:55 AM
I got back from dinner last evening and as I pulled in the driveway my stomach started to churn. I had to sprint for the door. Next, from there, I had to run to the bathroom which I made just in the nick or time. I was lucky that my belt didnt stand in the way of me and the massive Tipton I was about to take. I am sure that I received a bad piece of fish at the restaurant because I have never had a Tipton to come on me so suddenly like that before. I believe that the kids call it a Turbo-Tipton.

It reminded me of the time when my dog ate an entire stick of butter and she Tipton'd all over the carpet in my living room. Tipton like that is really hard to clean out of a nice carpet even with a carpet cleaner. I had to open every window in the house to get the Tipton smell out. It was worse than that time in the middle of the night when I got up to get a glass of water and I stepped right into the middle of a warm pile of Tipton. Warm Tipton at 2:00 in the morning, squished between your toes, is absolutely the worst.

But as I sat there Tiptoning my guts out, it made me feel better to hear that John Wall is eligible to play for us. You know how it is with the NCAA. You cannot believe some of the bull-Tipton rulings they come up with.

And after having to cancel the Sunday practice I cannot wait for us to beat the living Tipton out of little brother. Like they say, Tipton happens.

Oh Tipton... I just looked at my watch and I have got to run to meet some friends for a drink. I am going to watch how much I drink because the last time I had so many beers that I got Tipton-faced and nearly Pitino'd my pants.

Go Cats!

ukwebfan
10-31-2009, 09:19 AM
Here's my take. After being a loyal subscriber, I'm in my 21st year of boycotting Sports Illustrated. I also have a DVR. So when SI peddles their pullovers, champion editions and such on TV, I fast forward past it if possible. In the end, the publications and consumer oriented companies without an agenda but instead with poignant information and customer service that exceeds our expectations, will be the ones rewarded with thriving businesses.

Earlier this year, SI owner Time Warner separated their thriving cable business from the struggling media, AOL and publications arm as they are now traded as 2 separate companies. I think my strategy is working minus any censorship. :icon_lol:

kyjones
10-31-2009, 09:20 AM
Fantastic!

ukwebfan
10-31-2009, 09:22 AM
Oh Tipton... I just looked at my watch and I have got to run to meet some friends for a drink.Morning drinking sure explains a few things. Nice job!

TrueblueCATfan
10-31-2009, 09:25 AM
I got back from dinner last evening and as I pulled in the driveway my stomach started to churn. I had to sprint for the door. Next, from there, I had to run to the bathroom which I made just in the nick or time. I was lucky that my belt didnt stand in the way of me and the massive Tipton I was about to take. I am sure that I received a bad piece of fish at the restaurant because I have never had a Tipton to come on me so suddenly like that before. I believe that the kids call it a Turbo-Tipton.

It reminded me of the time when my dog ate an entire stick of butter and she Tipton'd all over the carpet in my living room. Tipton like that is really hard to clean out of a nice carpet even with a carpet cleaner. I had to open every window in the house to get the Tipton smell out. It was worse than that time in the middle of the night when I got up to get a glass of water and I stepped right into the middle of a warm pile of Tipton. Warm Tipton at 2:00 in the morning, squished between your toes, is absolutely the worst.

But as I sat there Tiptoning my guts out, it made me feel better to hear that John Wall is eligible to play for us. You know how it is with the NCAA. You cannot believe some of the bull-Tipton rulings they come up with.

And after having to cancel the Sunday practice I cannot wait for us to beat the living Tipton out of little brother. Like they say, Tipton happens.

Oh Tipton... I just looked at my watch and I have got to run to meet some friends for a drink. I am going to watch how much I drink because the last time I had so many beers that I got Tipton-faced and nearly Pitino'd my pants.

Go Cats!

LMAO..some funny sruff

freethrow
10-31-2009, 09:45 AM
I got back from dinner last evening and as I pulled in the driveway my stomach started to churn. I had to sprint for the door. Next, from there, I had to run to the bathroom which I made just in the nick or time. I was lucky that my belt didnt stand in the way of me and the massive Tipton I was about to take. I am sure that I received a bad piece of fish at the restaurant because I have never had a Tipton to come on me so suddenly like that before. I believe that the kids call it a Turbo-Tipton.

It reminded me of the time when my dog ate an entire stick of butter and she Tipton'd all over the carpet in my living room. Tipton like that is really hard to clean out of a nice carpet even with a carpet cleaner. I had to open every window in the house to get the Tipton smell out. It was worse than that time in the middle of the night when I got up to get a glass of water and I stepped right into the middle of a warm pile of Tipton. Warm Tipton at 2:00 in the morning, squished between your toes, is absolutely the worst.

But as I sat there Tiptoning my guts out, it made me feel better to hear that John Wall is eligible to play for us. You know how it is with the NCAA. You cannot believe some of the bull-Tipton rulings they come up with.

And after having to cancel the Sunday practice I cannot wait for us to beat the living Tipton out of little brother. Like they say, Tipton happens.

Oh Tipton... I just looked at my watch and I have got to run to meet some friends for a drink. I am going to watch how much I drink because the last time I had so many beers that I got Tipton-faced and nearly Pitino'd my pants.

Go Cats!

:icon_mrgreen: That's some funny Tipton.

biglabcatdaddy
10-31-2009, 11:05 AM
Tipton the bed!
Why didn't I think of this? I need to get my Tipton together!
Just wonderful stuff guys, no Tipton, I Tipton you not!

catsmeow
10-31-2009, 11:23 AM
Email the UK Athletic Dept. and ask them to revoke his media credentials.
Catsmeow

The Black Watch
10-31-2009, 11:27 AM
Email the UK Athletic Dept. and ask them to revoke his media credentials.
Catsmeow

That's a good idea. Do you think it could happen? I don't recall anyone having their creds revoked, but I'm sure it's happened. If enough of us did it...the power of the unified Wildcat Nation. :icon_twisted:

KYStout
10-31-2009, 11:32 AM
Good call guys...no more hits for Tippy from me.

Oh and Dr. Lecter...that post was some funny Tipton right there! I nearly Pitino'd my pants reading that.

billoliver40
10-31-2009, 11:37 AM
What this board is doing <and others if they decide to do so> will hit the stands as an attempt to censor the press.

It is no such thing. It is the choice of a group of fans to not support bad writing, innuendo and questionable 'facts' from a writer that had indeed once been one of the folks held in high regard...you don't get those Pulitzer's for
what has become 'tiptony' writing.

This has turned into a game for JT and the LHL....much the same as Billy Packer and Howard Cosell loved to instigate in order to get people to listen,
so has the LHL and JT taken this tact.

Trouble is, they seemed in this instance to get their facts wrong, to insinuate
something 'fishy' about a classy kid and his family, and then to stand behind
that kind of thing. Not free press. Rumor mongering.

countrycat
10-31-2009, 09:18 PM
What this board is doing <and others if they decide to do so> will hit the stands as an attempt to censor the press.

It is no such thing. It is the choice of a group of fans to not support bad writing, innuendo and questionable 'facts' from a writer that had indeed once been one of the folks held in high regard...you don't get those Pulitzer's for
what has become 'tiptony' writing.

This has turned into a game for JT and the LHL....much the same as Billy Packer and Howard Cosell loved to instigate in order to get people to listen,
so has the LHL and JT taken this tact.

Trouble is, they seemed in this instance to get their facts wrong, to insinuate
something 'fishy' about a classy kid and his family, and then to stand behind
that kind of thing. Not free press. Rumor mongering.
They have a right to wright what they want. thats freedom of the press and where it stops. It is the freedom of the WCN staff not to participate in there "freedom" or putting out things that are factually incorrect. The HL staff must agree with with this junk or they would do something about it.

bcbaxter10
11-01-2009, 08:58 PM
After a discussion among the WCN staff, it has been decided that articles from Jerry Tipton will no longer be allowed to be linked here.

We've come to the conclusion that Tipton writes articles that are damaging to our players, their public images, and our athletics department as a whole. These articles are not simply opposing views or even negative slants to an unideal situation, but are of such nature as to harm our teams. If this is what Tipton must resort to in order to supply interest in his writings, then no interest will be given in the form of site hits due to linkage from this forum.

It has been said that the best way to combat these actions is to ignore them. This is partialy true. By no longer allowing Tipton articles to be linked here, we are taking an action toward limiting his audience.

Thank you for time and consideration, and as always, feel free to direct questions about this policy to any of our staff.

I will leave this thread here for a short time, and then will sticky it to the top of the forum.

I knew I liked this place for a reason.... Excellent decision

G0Cats#1
11-09-2009, 11:54 AM
Sounds like a winner to me

BEST news I have heard all day:thumbup::thumbup:

Thank you WCN staff

I meant to do this awhile back, catchin up I guess


A BIG BLUE DITTO!!!

dwarfdorin
11-10-2009, 08:11 PM
Backing here 100%. The guy is a complete idiot and if the LHL loses readers and they know that this is the reason why they will take notice. Like it was said earlier they start to lose the dollars and they will maybe come to the same conclusion we all have.

CurlyCat
11-11-2009, 08:03 AM
Bravo!

If I never see another Tipton article, it will be too soon.

boomdaddy
11-13-2009, 12:40 PM
Eh, I don't think that's it. You read his articles and there's still a thousand comments on them saying "you're a sorry son of a *@$#*%" and the like. The HL doesn't care as long as you're still clicking on a link and satisfying their advertising people. A click is a click, whether you're pissed or proud.

Question - does this policy apply to the Herald-Leader entirely, or just Tipton columns?

It applies for anyone they have on the payroll. They have a racist cloumnist who the LHL defends with regularity. I do believe they like controversy

bly
11-16-2009, 01:05 AM
I love this policy.:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

DenCat
11-16-2009, 04:58 PM
It applies for anyone they have on the payroll. They have a racist cloumnist who the LHL defends with regularity. I do believe they like controversy
So far the policy is just for Tipton. Chip Cosby is a pretty good writer. I've always enjoyed his articles.

wildcat72
11-19-2009, 06:59 AM
Tipton and this incident are a microcosm of what is wrong with newspapers and why they began to die a long time ago.

Instead of satisfying their customers, they began chasing awards.

Yeah, they are the only service business that has the mentality that the "customer is always wrong". And they are dying thanks to the fact that the Internet means that you don't have to own a TV or radio station, or use lots of ink on dead trees to get a story out, which means they have competition for the first time.

IMHO, the ban should extend to the Lexington Herald-Leader as a whole. That whole worthless rag of a newspaper has been running a never ending NCAA investigation of UK for over 25 years. They don't support the program one bit except to make money off of it.

Stucat
11-26-2009, 01:28 AM
Thank goodness for the stand against Jerry Tipton and his employers at the LHL. For years Tipton has thrived on trying to tear down Kentucky basketball and he is always backed by his employers at the LHL. I don't understand his vendetta against UK basketball but thank goodness I won't have to read it anymore on the Wildcat Nation.

Catdaddy
11-28-2009, 01:33 AM
I've been receiving the LHL at home for years, I've been considering letting my account go stale, I do like Chip Cosby and other writers,

But I can't stand Tipton or Davis, I don't know.

Maybe it's time to say goodbye to the LHL

UK78ALUM
11-30-2009, 05:17 AM
"Never pick a fight with someone who buys ink by the barrel (and newsprint by the ton)"

Usually this quote is mis-attributed to Mark Twain, when in fact no firm evidence can be found for its origin. But whatever the origin, the premise is sound.

For those seeking help from others in picking up this story, understand that Tipton, et al, has a daily forum and the ability to report any story with his own personal slant.

So, while I agree with the boycott, I disagree with trying to get publicity for it, and particularly trying to get negative Tipton publicity - unless, of course you are prepared to have this site possibly portrayed as a bunch of "homers", "amateurs", "rubes", etc., etc.

I'm not saying he would do this, but I am definitely saying he could. In fact, if someone were coming after me personally, I probably would do something like that myself.

And you have no recourse at that point, so choose your battles wisely......

Will Lavender
11-30-2009, 08:00 AM
"Never pick a fight with someone who buys ink by the barrel (and newsprint by the ton)"

Usually this quote is mis-attributed to Mark Twain, when in fact no firm evidence can be found for its origin. But whatever the origin, the premise is sound.

For those seeking help from others in picking up this story, understand that Tipton, et al, has a daily forum and the ability to report any story with his own personal slant.

So, while I agree with the boycott, I disagree with trying to get publicity for it, and particularly trying to get negative Tipton publicity - unless, of course you are prepared to have this site possibly portrayed as a bunch of "homers", "amateurs", "rubes", etc., etc.

I'm not saying he would do this, but I am definitely saying he could. In fact, if someone were coming after me personally, I probably would do something like that myself.

And you have no recourse at that point, so choose your battles wisely......

Tipton made his opinion about message boards and blogs clear a long time ago. He once called the people who use this media "internuts."

I don't think the guy has much of a Web presence, nor does he probably care. So I doubt he'd be engaging in a fight with this board. Heck, Matt Jones has gone at him pretty consistently over the last two or three years and I don't believe Tipton has ever responded.

Dawood Khan
12-02-2009, 02:44 AM
How about a no Tubby policy? ;)