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Blue_N_White

04-08-2008, 10:14 PM

we don't need projects. tubby got people because they were tall and he thought he could coach them good. now look where we are. people watch aau games and the such for a reason, proven talent.

Thank you. You hit the nail on the head. Tubby didn't want the possible "one and done" types...so he went out of his way NOT to recruit potential early NBA draft entrants, and instead recruited 4 year players. And as you pointed out, many of which were "projects". I'd rather have the 6'9" 3 or 4 star kid with skills and ability than another Shagari or Jared Carter type.....

westtncat

04-08-2008, 11:11 PM

yea but 7'5"! sheesh.

bane

04-08-2008, 11:45 PM

I found a message board that talks a bit about him.

Ring Ayeul 7-5 center OSNA, LI. 6/15/05 John P Miciotta: 'Obviously size is the best tool the young man from the Sudan has. At the high school level he has demonstrated an ability to block and change shots, as well as the hands to catch the ball and score on stick backs. The blessing of his size means he has lots of work to do improving his coordination and balance. If he keeps working hard he’ll develop into a fine prospect.'

11/9/04 Eric Jaklitsch: 'The other freshman is 7'5" (no that is not a misprint!) Ring Ayeul by the way of the Sudan. Ayeul is a little bit raw on the offensive end however he has a Kevin Garnett (http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=515423#) like frame, is a superior defender, and can run the floor like a gazelle.'

Heres another scouting report that is probly the newest one of the 2.

7’5” sophomore Ring Ayeul moved up from the JV last year. Ayeul has improved dramatically over the summer as he has put on over 40 pounds with a personal trainer and worked on his skills and conditioning with personal trainer Jerry Powell. Ayeul will provide the team with another rebounder, shot blocker, and defender.

http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=515423

needmore44

04-09-2008, 12:17 AM

this guy is huge out of Our Savior New America High School,Centereach,New York class of 2008? Think Shagari?

Why would we want another Shagari??

teamchemistry09

04-09-2008, 08:53 AM

Why would we want another Shagari??

The only reason anyone on here is comparing him to Shagari is because of his height. Has anyone seen this kid play to know who to compare him to?

4theluvofbilly

04-09-2008, 09:37 AM

The only reason anyone on here is comparing him to Shagari is because of his height. Has anyone seen this kid play to know who to compare him to?

No I haven't seen this kid play, but how many 7'5 players are that good?............ Yao Ming. that's it. George Muresan..... Bust. Shawn Bradley......... Don't make me laugh. That George kid from UNC Ashville....... Not very good. See my point. It's TOO RISKY to take a guy that big. It's not worth it, especially when BCG is trying to get a strong foundation built here at UK. I say NO to PROJECTS.

TrueblueCATfan

04-09-2008, 09:39 AM

at 7'5 he can just stand there...he should be able to put the ball in the basket without even jumping;)

BOURBON TOWN CAT FAN

04-09-2008, 10:27 AM

picture, link???

This is Ayeul
http://www.nycnjhoops.com/ra050610.jpg

I guess this kid is his teammate
http://www.nydailynews.com/img/2007/08/19/amd_john_riek.jpg

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/hschool/2007/08/19/2007-08-19_the_tug_of_war_-2.html

7-2 John Riek from Sudan who's being recruited by UConn, Florida, Duke and Gtown.

JayB

04-09-2008, 11:39 AM

John Riek is pimp. Some on here were saying he was really bad tho so :P

BOURBON TOWN CAT FAN

04-09-2008, 01:02 PM

John Riek is pimp. Some on here were saying he was really bad tho so :P

I can't imagine having that kind of height on a HS team. Imagine having the two of them on the floor together as twin towers.

Hornback22

04-09-2008, 01:25 PM

"If he keeps working hard he’ll develop into a fine prospect."

Why would we want a player who might develop into a prospect? There are plenty other players out there who are already prospects.

wildcat537

04-09-2008, 02:36 PM

wildcat537

04-09-2008, 02:38 PM

i also think they meant PRO prospect!!

Marine_UK_Fan

04-09-2008, 03:06 PM

No I haven't seen this kid play, but how many 7'5 players are that good?............ Yao Ming. that's it. George Muresan..... Bust. Shawn Bradley......... Don't make me laugh. That George kid from UNC Ashville....... Not very good. See my point. It's TOO RISKY to take a guy that big. It's not worth it, especially when BCG is trying to get a strong foundation built here at UK. I say NO to PROJECTS.

Manute Bol.....

UKfaninCO

04-09-2008, 04:09 PM

Oh, come on guys, every team needs a 7' + project. Just to see them get in there and clutz their way through 1 minute per game. Problem comes when you have a bench full of them. I'm not saying he will or he won't be any good, as I have very little knowledge of what to look for in a recruit. But you can't teach 7' 5"! That's HUGE! I'll trust CBG to get what we need, though.

crazzedcats22

04-09-2008, 05:19 PM

4theluvofbilly

04-09-2008, 05:29 PM

Manute Bol.....

I'm glad you brought him up. Manute Bol didn't average more than 4 points a game in any season in his watered-down NBA career.

4theluvofbilly

04-09-2008, 05:32 PM

7'5 i think would be the biggest player i ky history and cbg coaching??????the sky could be the limit with him...also the guy from unc ashville is pretty good...he just dosent have stamina where we know billy clyde could build in anyone!!!

So, we should give this guy a scholarship b/c he will be the tallest player to ever play at UK??? George from UNC-Ashville is not very good. You say that he doesn't have the stamina...... Well, isn't that part of a player being good or not? He's so large, I don't think that he can improve his stamina much more. I'm telling you all, IT'S NOT WORTH IT. Give someone a scholarship with a much better chance of helping the team.

wildcat537

04-09-2008, 06:14 PM

im not saying give him a scholarship for his size i am just saying he is BIGGG..and CBG is a great coach and it is something to think about!!! By the way I didn't think Shagari was that bad!!!

4theluvofbilly

04-09-2008, 06:22 PM

Well, he was that bad.

Will Lavender

04-09-2008, 07:12 PM

Well, he was that bad.

No he wasn't. We forget that Shagari had some excellent games his junior year. There was a time during that season when he was playing extraordinarily well.

Shagari's problems had little to do with his skill on the court and everything to do with his mind. Guy just never did get it. I don't think he cared too much about whether or not he played, and so his improvement wasn't what it should have been.

I'm not saying he was Ralph Sampson or anything, but he was definitely a decent role player. He was just wildly inconsistent because his (gigantic) head was never screwed on the way it should have been.

I. Melvin

04-09-2008, 07:16 PM

Would have loved to see what CBG would have done with Shagari.

Am looking forward to seeing what he can do / has done with Carter and Mike.

teamchemistry09

04-09-2008, 07:17 PM

I'm glad you brought him up. Manute Bol didn't average more than 4 points a game in any season in his watered-down NBA career.

We (or any college for that matter) arent asking this kid to start playing against Shaq, Amare, D Howard, Yao, and Duncan right now. Hell be asked to go against guys like Speights, Stevenson, Ogilvy, and some other "bigs" in the SEC. Im not saying that bigs in the SEC arent good, but they werent great this year and wont be next year. If he comes to UK hed have to go up against the best in the league every day at practice. I think any 7'5 guy who can run and chew gum at the same time would do fine in college. See Kenny George. He isnt an all-american, but he will give you 15 points 7 or 8 rebounds and 5 blocks a game. Not too shabby IMO

wildcat537

04-09-2008, 09:07 PM

there is a big difference in college and pro...for example...jeff sheppard was ,in my opinion, on of the greatest cats of all time...but didnt do much at all in the pros...should we not have had him????

ibleedblue2

04-09-2008, 09:48 PM

I say pass on this guy. Go after another beast like PPat.:thumbup:

Blue_N_White

04-09-2008, 10:03 PM

I say pass on this guy. Go after another beast like PPat.:thumbup:

Agreed.

If there's one thing that we all SHOULD have learned by now....it's that if a guy is 7'5", and worthy on being on a roster at a school like Kentucky...then he would likely be a household name and hot commodity by now, and the other schools on his list would include names like North Carolina, Duke, Indiana, UCLA, Kansas, Memphis, Lousiville, Georgetown, etc., etc. It's not like UK would be on to something that the other schools missed. And with that kind of height...is he was good at all....he wouldn't be this "unknown commodity".

I'm about 6'1" tall....and played baseball in high school, not basketball. But I would routinely beat a guy in my class when we played one on one, and he was 6'8" and DID play on the basketball team. WHY? Because he sucked. Great guy, loved him to death...and really WANTED him to develop into a player because he had the height to do it and it would have helped MY school. But even as a senior, he was a big time bench warmer. Apparently the coaches kept him around HOPING that he would develop, but he never did.

Anyway, I say pass on these kind of "projects"......

teamchemistry09

04-09-2008, 10:53 PM

I say pass on this guy. Go after another beast like PPat.:thumbup:

Show me another Patterson in the 08 class thats available right now

westtncat

04-09-2008, 11:18 PM

How can anyone say pass or take him at this point? The kid is 7'5" I would at least keep an eye on him. If he turns out to be halfway decent I would want him. He is still young. He has time. Didnt someone say he was rated 68? Thats not garbage.

4theluvofbilly

04-10-2008, 07:46 AM

There isn't another "Patterson" out there right now, but there are more "proven" players out there than a 7'5 dude that hardly anybody's heard from.

catfaninthaville

04-10-2008, 02:29 PM

would u rather use a scholly on a 7'5" project or a junior college player like harrelson???

go cats!!!!

Wildcat97

04-10-2008, 03:00 PM

I'm glad you brought him up. Manute Bol didn't average more than 4 points a game in any season in his watered-down NBA career.

True regarding the NBA...but here is his college season totals (it was Bridgeport though) PER GAME AVG
PTS TRB AST
1984-85 22 bridgeport 22.5 13.5 1.4

As someone alluded to, lets not knock him just yet.

BTW - I was actually stunned by these numbers based on his Pro career. And I am not advocating coach MUST grab him...just another side to the story.

Blue_N_White

04-10-2008, 03:41 PM

would u rather use a scholly on a 7'5" project or a junior college player like harrelson???

go cats!!!!

Harrellson sounds like a basketball player.

The 7'5" guy sounds like a very tall man.

Big difference.

I'll take the basketball player.......

wildcat537

04-10-2008, 04:50 PM

just a reminder .........
nazr mohammod was a project!!!!!!!

crazzedcats22

04-10-2008, 05:02 PM

just a reminder .........
nazr mohammod was a project!!!!!!!

However, Mohammed entered the UK (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Kentucky) at a hefty 315 pounds at 6'10.

All he had to do was LOSE weight, he also had some pretty good skills.

This guy is 7'5 200 lbs...this is another Shagari project all over again. Get a basketball player not a tall guy you think you can turn into a basketball player.

wildcat537

04-10-2008, 05:04 PM

link to a cool story on ring ayeul...not sure how to put a link on but heres a try...let me know if this works
http://www.childrensworld.org/page.html?pid=394

wildcat537

04-10-2008, 05:12 PM

another link with info on ring and others
http://www.nycjhoops.com/cl2008.htm

wildcat537

04-10-2008, 05:14 PM

ring is ranked #16 in new york

westtncat

04-10-2008, 06:29 PM

Arent ratings for basketball players? Is he the 68th rated player or the 68th rated tall guy? If its just a tall guy I dont want him either.

chworld22

04-10-2008, 06:48 PM

I think that Billy needs to sign a couple of you guys up since you know better than he does. If you all were recruiting we would have the #1 recruiting class in the nation every year.:icon_rolleyes:

Ukosumu

04-10-2008, 07:18 PM

I think that Billy needs to sign a couple of you guys up since you know better than he does. If you all were recruiting we would have the #1 recruiting class in the nation every year.:icon_rolleyes:
If we didn't, it wouldn't be from a lack of trying.:big_grin:

chworld22

04-10-2008, 07:22 PM

If we didn't, it wouldn't be from a lack of trying.:big_grin:

LOL now that was a good reply!:icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol:

winston

04-10-2008, 08:16 PM

estill and nazr were both projects and they had fine careers...

wildcat537

04-10-2008, 09:44 PM

cbg dosent even have to pay me...ill work for a free seat on the bench!!!!!!!!

wildcat537

04-10-2008, 09:57 PM

scout.com has harrelson rated 6th to last on their site for big men?????

wildcat537

04-30-2008, 10:53 PM

Anyone Heard Any New Stuff On This Kid?

KYISSUPREME

05-01-2008, 11:23 AM

Wait, where's the Clarence Trent mix tape for this thread? :icon_mrgreen:

Bombastic Blue

05-01-2008, 04:05 PM

7'5" project, 7'3" project, 7'2" project, 7'0" project, 7'0" project.

The key word IS project! Move along! Move along! Next up.

Tom Blevins

05-02-2008, 05:36 PM

Shagari had the ability to play at Kentucky. His problem was he was LAZY. If Ring Ayeul has a good work ethic, he'll make a fine college player. The bottom line on any recruit, though, is it's Coach Gillispie's decision. If Kentucky has a losing season, your boss is not going to fire you.

Ky KiD

05-02-2008, 05:48 PM

Wait, where's the Clarence Trent mix tape for this thread? :icon_mrgreen: Ha Ha Dont make me post it again :big_grin:

KYISSUPREME

05-03-2008, 05:49 AM

Ha Ha Dont make me post it again :big_grin:

:icon_mrgreen: He is an exciting player, though isn't he?

wildcat537

05-04-2008, 09:16 PM

i just read that duke is interested in ring?????
p.s----he is only a hs jr right now...he is class of 2009

wildcat537

06-26-2008, 04:16 PM

really tearing up aau in the nyc circuit

VirginiaBlue

06-27-2008, 08:42 AM

I would like to see him on the football team, as a designated FG blocker. Would a kicker be intimidated to see somebody like that standing behind the line looking at him?:p

Wildcat97

06-27-2008, 01:28 PM

I would like to see him on the football team, as a designated FG blocker. Would a kicker be intimidated to see somebody like that standing behind the line looking at him?:p

Not a good one. If fact I doubt he would even notice him (unless he stood there alone like a challenge...lol, just pictured that in my head). Either way, this young man can't jump to 14'-15' unless he has a 48"+ vert. if he is 1 Yd behind the line, that would add more clearance for the kicker. A good kicker would clear that easily. Too many kickers lower their kicks for LONG FGs...mistake for good clearance. Find your range...stick to it.

(Sorry to tangent)

Ukosumu

06-27-2008, 01:31 PM

Not a good one. If fact I doubt he would even notice him (unless he stood there alone like a challenge...lol, just pictured that in my head). Either way, this young man can't jump to 14'-15' unless he has a 48"+ vert. if he is 1 Yd behind the line, that would add more clearance for the kicker. A good kicker would clear that easily. Too many kickers lower their kicks for LONG FGs...mistake for good clearance. Find your range...stick to it.

(Sorry to tangent)
Though I agree with you, it still would be interesting to a 7'5" kid in a football uniform.