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I. Melvin
04-18-2008, 04:38 PM
Kept waiting to hear the glowing reports about how CP was spinning gold from chaos, but they never came.

Though improved, counting on our defense to win games in the SEC is crazy. Curtis has GOT to step it up.

etstit2
04-18-2008, 04:44 PM
I would like to see Mike hartline step it up and take the starting qb spot. He is younger and therefore will help us longer. If he can step it up and be productive, we can move Pulley out to WR to add some depth at that spot. right now theres not many threats there other than Dicky Lyons. Pulley is a great athlete and could play WR immediately

Diz2
04-18-2008, 05:20 PM
When the Cats went 10-1 in 77? (probation) they had a great D and a tight end playing quarterback. Derrick Ramsey ran for a lot of first downs, but his passing was rare and usually a surprise to everyone. He was a great football player, but not a great quarterback. Curci had a couple more above average quarterback. None were great, but the Ramsey lead team was great.

Bill Ransdell could have been great, if he had an O line. He's lucky to be alive and we were lucky to go to a second tier bowl with him. I wouldn't call him great.

Most of Clairborne's teams featured a stubborn defense with some average quarterbacks. There wasn't much success anywhere with John Ray's teams. However anyone who met Mr. Federspiel will remember the old UK defense.

Rick Norton was near great, and then you had Babe Parelli and George Blanda. Both were great quarterbacks and they led very good or great teams.

Mark Blueblood
04-18-2008, 06:00 PM
Actually, for the system Curci ran, Ramsey was a great quarterback. Curci's philosophy was that the best athlete on the team should play quarterback. When he realized that athlete was Ramsey, he moved him to quarterback and, hey - he coached the best Kentucky team I ever saw play.

As far as true success goes - few (if any) great teams have not had great quarterbacks.

RV
04-18-2008, 11:47 PM
UK Previously Never Succeeded Without a Great QB


Those days are gone.

We now have what we have envied for so long. A team that can play 'big boy' football.

ie. A good to great running game and an experienced and competent defense. We're going to beat teams the way they previously beat us.

jh4uk
04-19-2008, 01:10 AM
Kept waiting to hear the glowing reports about how CP was spinning gold from chaos, but they never came.

Though improved, counting on our defense to win games in the SEC is crazy. Curtis has GOT to step it up.


dude chill... it's only the spring.

bellbrass
04-19-2008, 01:30 AM
Whomever wins the starting job will be a very good QB, but likely not as good as Woodson. His shoes will be hard to fill.

Pulley will not be moved to WR. We need him at QB, starter or not.

poodoo
04-19-2008, 12:34 PM
Actually, for the system Curci ran, Ramsey was a great quarterback. Curci's philosophy was that the best athlete on the team should play quarterback. When he realized that athlete was Ramsey, he moved him to quarterback and, hey - he coached the best Kentucky team I ever saw play.



FWIW, the UK coaches have said that Curtis Pulley is the BEST ATHLETE on THIS team. Could you see history repeat itself! We'll see what happens at the quarterback position AND with the team itself. I can hardly wait! :)

The Old School JPS
04-19-2008, 03:25 PM
UK went to a bowl game in 1999 with a quarterback who was not doing very well. The offense as a whole became very unproductive in the latter half of that season, mostly because opponents realized that the ball would not be thrown far on them, and they could pile their defenses up on us as a result.

poodoo
04-19-2008, 04:02 PM
UK went to a bowl game in 1999 with a quarterback who was not doing very well. The offense as a whole became very unproductive in the latter half of that season, mostly because opponents realized that the ball would not be thrown far on them, and they could pile their defenses up on us as a result.

You make a valid point, JPS. It's always good at least to be able "to keep the defense honest."

FWIW, a radio show host recently shared that Curtis Pulley can throw a really nice deep ball, but often struggles with accuracy on the shorter passes. :shrug1: Today, though, neither quarterback was able to connect with the deep ball today, according to Coach Brooks, and he agrees that such will be necessary for us to win this season. It sounded as if Michael Hartline was throwing the ball pretty well, but in the first half receivers were surely dropping his passes. As a positive, under pressure, both quarterbacks drove the ball down the field for scores. Again, I can hardly wait for the season to begin. :)

gerntz
04-19-2008, 06:36 PM
UK Previously Never Succeeded Without a Great QB


Those days are gone.

We now have what we have envied for so long. A team that can play 'big boy' football.

ie. A good to great running game and an experienced and competent defense. We're going to beat teams the way they previously beat us.

excellent, RV.

Terry L. Wildcat
04-20-2008, 12:12 AM
Actually, for the system Curci ran, Ramsey was a great quarterback. Curci's philosophy was that the best athlete on the team should play quarterback. When he realized that athlete was Ramsey, he moved him to quarterback and, hey - he coached the best Kentucky team I ever saw play.

As far as true success goes - few (if any) great teams have not had great quarterbacks.

Mark, I never got to see that team play (my first year in Colorado) but somewhere I have a game from the season on cassette with Cawood calling it thanks to my dad.

The other night I started watching the Rockies in the 14th and stayed up for all 22. :eek: