Hunter McC update

[crazzedcats22]

http://blog.kentuckysportsradio.com/?p=6626

I thought all along there was no way this kid was good enough to play for a major D-1 school and it looks like that's the case right now

[JWORLD]

They said the same thing about Nazr Mohammed......................

[JDHoss]

They said the same thing about Nazr Mohammed......................


But Naz was a legit 6'10 with big, soft hands and a nice shooting touch. He just needed to drop weight.

[JWORLD]

http://blog.kentuckysportsradio.com/?p=6626

I thought all along there was no way this kid was good enough to play for a major D-1 school and it looks like that's the case right now



Explain Adam Morrison,Travis Deiner,Teddy Dupay,Chris Quinn,Richie Fram, Crispin Brothers, and so on.


Size of the heart means everything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Will Lavender]

The Arizona thing is strange.

IMO, the same person who started the YouTube craze has sent the video out there. There were some message board posters when that whole thing was going down who looked like they were operatives for the McClintock family. Very strange.

They seem determined to get him into the upper echelons of college basketball. I know nothing about Hunter, but it seems to me that they should have taken the mid-major offers they got (if there were any; they seemed to suggest that Air Force was very interested) and went with that. That kid is likely to get really swallowed up in the Pac-10.

But heck, you've got to dream big.

[countrycat]

Explain Adam Morrison,Travis Deiner,Teddy Dupay,Chris Quinn,Richie Fram, Crispin Brothers, and so on.


Size of the heart means everything!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I say again. mC is not coming to UK.

[Blue 24/7]

I say again. mC is not coming to UK.

and there you have it :icon_rolleyes:

[leroybyrd]

http://blog.kentuckysportsradio.com/?p=6626

I thought all along there was no way this kid was good enough to play for a major D-1 school and it looks like that's the case right now


The problem with that thinking is that they said it about Stephen Curry and he was the best player in the NCAA tournamanet last year and I am considering Rose, Beasley, etc.

I am not saying he is Curry, but I think the AAU thing (playing or not playing AAU) is a huge deal. Curry wasn't heavily involved in the AAU circuit and coaches cannot afford to take risks these days with recuriting, even though a kid may be a legit player.

[JWORLD]

The problem with that thinking is that they said it about Stephen Curry and he was the best player in the NCAA tournamanet last year and I am considering Rose, Beasley, etc.

I am not saying he is Curry, but I think the AAU thing (playing or not playing AAU) is a huge deal. Curry wasn't heavily involved in the AAU circuit and coaches cannot afford to take risks these days with recuriting, even though a kid may be a legit player.


Very good point. The list goes on and on for players the gurus and analysts deemed not good enough to play D1 basketball.

Here's the thing with McClintock.

Is he a John Wall? NO
Is he a great defender and athletic freak? NO
Can he shoot,handle, and pass the ball? YES
Would he make a good four year player that you can coach and mold into a good role player? YES
Under the right program,strength and conditioning,can he become quicker,faster,stronger,smarter? YES
Were Travis Ford and Patrick Sparks great athletes? No
Did Travis and Patrick play with alot of heart? YES


I respect Gillispie and his decisions, but i would like to McClintock on our roster this year.

[JDHoss]

The problem with that thinking is that they said it about Stephen Curry and he was the best player in the NCAA tournamanet last year and I am considering Rose, Beasley, etc.

I am not saying he is Curry, but I think the AAU thing (playing or not playing AAU) is a huge deal. Curry wasn't heavily involved in the AAU circuit and coaches cannot afford to take risks these days with recuriting, even though a kid may be a legit player.

Curry also had the bloodlines and a lifetime of tutoring by a man who played 14 seasons in the NBA and is still considered to be one of the all time best long range shooters.

[Will Lavender]

^ Curry's also a long-armed 6'3".

[countrycat]

^ Curry's also a long-armed 6'3".
And very athletic.

[leroybyrd]

And very athletic.

Isn't hindsight a beautiful thing? Sorry, but that's not what the recruiting gurus said a few years ago about Curry.

And Will, the fact that Curry is a long armed 6'3' has nothing to do with this conversation. They are two different type players who play different positions.

The point is that "they" said Curry couldn't play high major D-1 ball either.

[matt colvin]

Isn't hindsight a beautiful thing? Sorry, but that's not what the recruiting gurus said a few years ago about Curry.

And Will, the fact that Curry is a long armed 6'3' has nothing to do with this conversation. They are two different type players who play different positions.

The point is that "they" said Curry couldn't play high major D-1 ball either.

Not to argue or anything, and especially not seem like I'm talking for somebody else, but the way I see it is that Stephen Curry, for example, has more potential to succeed at the High Major D1 level than a Hunter McClintock would. As Will said, his physical attributes, if nothing else, help make him able to compete at this level. It's a lot easier for a bigger longer guard to succeed at this level than it is a shorter, shorter guard to. The foundations make a difference. A 6'0" player needs to be a little better than a 6'3" long player has to, in order to overcome the deficiencies due to physical build. These points take all aspects of the game into view, particularly defense as a whole.

[countrycat]

Not to argue or anything, and especially not seem like I'm talking for somebody else, but the way I see it is that Stephen Curry, for example, has more potential to succeed at the High Major D1 level than a Hunter McClintock would. As Will said, his physical attributes, if nothing else, help make him able to compete at this level. It's a lot easier for a bigger longer guard to succeed at this level than it is a shorter, shorter guard to. The foundations make a difference. A 6'0" player needs to be a little better than a 6'3" long player has to, in order to overcome the deficiencies due to physical build. These points take all aspects of the game into view, particularly defense as a whole.
This is "The point" he is not coming to UK. BCG is trying to recruit UK caliber players and this kid is not UK caliber. I am not trying to convince you will but others on this thread.

[matt colvin]

This is "The point" he is not coming to UK. BCG is trying to recruit UK caliber players and this kid is not UK caliber. I am not trying to convince you will but others on this thread.

I about asked why we're still discussing Hunter. But, it could be an interesting conversation during a relatively dead period :shrug1:

[leroybyrd]

Not to argue or anything, and especially not seem like I'm talking for somebody else, but the way I see it is that Stephen Curry, for example, has more potential to succeed at the High Major D1 level than a Hunter McClintock would. As Will said, his physical attributes, if nothing else, help make him able to compete at this level. It's a lot easier for a bigger longer guard to succeed at this level than it is a shorter, shorter guard to. The foundations make a difference. A 6'0" player needs to be a little better than a 6'3" long player has to, in order to overcome the deficiencies due to physical build. These points take all aspects of the game into view, particularly defense as a whole.


It's pretty easy to sit here and say that Curry, after lighting everyone up for two years, has more potential to succeed at the high major D-1 level.

Like I said, back then the gurus didn't think much of Curry, for whatever reason. It's just a guy who stands out that nobody thought much of, went to a mid major and tore it up. I think the AAU thing is a factor in the lack of interest in both of these players.

I have seen the videos, seen the stats, and I think Hunter McC can play major D-1. I think he lacks some athleticism, but can make up for it with incredible instincts, smarts and b-ball IQ. If I am a Clemson, Ole Miss, Northwestern, Oregon St., Iowa St., Seton Hall, etc, I am offering this kid.

[matt colvin]

Like I said, back then the gurus didn't think much of Curry, for whatever reason. It's just a guy who stands out that nobody thought much of, went to a mid major and tore it up. I think the AAU thing is a factor in the lack of interest in both of these players.



No, I understand that completely. I'm just saying it would be easier for him, from a physical stand point, to become a really good player than it would Joe Kool 6'0" short armed. Physical builds can make up for lacks in other departments, otherwise.

[/quote]but can make up for it with incredible instincts, smarts and b-ball IQ[/quote]

And that's my exact point, and not every recruit has those intangibles. The point is not about McClintock or Curry specifically, but using those two molds as generic examples. It's easier to take the risk on Curry than McClintock, for example.

[KYISSUPREME]

I about asked why we're still discussing Hunter. But, it could be an interesting conversation during a relatively dead period :shrug1:

My thoughts, exactly. Dead issue. Time to move on, IMHO.

[matt colvin]

My thoughts, exactly. Dead issue. Time to move on, IMHO.

I meant that the principle issue above, irregardless of "who" it's about, could be an interesting topic.

I agree, Hunter isn't coming here, so we need to accept it :thumbup:

[leroybyrd]

My thoughts, exactly. Dead issue. Time to move on, IMHO.

Why not read a different thread?

We know he's not coming here, but there are some other issues at play here that can make for an interesting discussion.

And I have some time on my hands for a change.

[JWORLD]

Why not read a different thread?

We know he's not coming here, but there are some other issues at play here that can make for an interesting discussion.

And I have some time on my hands for a change.



The fact that Liggins hasn't officially been cleared and with the departure of DJ, McClintock sounds pretty good as a option behind Porter and Galloway........

[Bombastic Blue]

A late bloomer, by definition, is hard to see coming. Thus the term. UK has had a bunch of deadeye shots that rarely got off of the bench. I've never seen HM play, but BCG has seen him up close and personal. There's little doubt that while he was at camp in Lexington BCG put him through has paces, and then some. The kid didn't get an offer for a reason. I understand, in light of recent revelations about players eligability, that some think UK needed to offer. That's that good old hindsight at work. Coach didn't think he was good enough then and I doubt if he has gotten much better in the past few weeks. The state pays Coach a couple million a year to make these decisions. I defer to his judgement. If, at a later date, his judgement proves to be unsound I'll be right there griping with the best of you. So far, however, I like what I see.

[KYISSUPREME]

Why not read a different thread?

We know he's not coming here, but there are some other issues at play here that can make for an interesting discussion.

And I have some time on my hands for a change.

I think I will. I may even start another thread. How about one on Rotnie Clark, or Ralph Sampson III. They are about as relavent as McClintock. :icon_mrgreen:

Just kidding, Leroy. I am just amazed we are even still discussing McClintock. Is the basketball news really that slow? But, sadly, I guess it is.

[david9638]

In my humble opinion, the mid-major schools need McClintock and we do not. Looks to me that BCG is recruiting a load of 6'6" players for those of us that want to see run and gun basketball in the bluegrass state mixed in with 40 minutes of hell. He is on to something good.IMO of course.