Throw it out!!!

[poodoo]

I had intended to come here with this post, but, unfortunately, first read one other WCN thread. :icon_frown: Anyway, my title was going to be the same. I'm throwing out this performance and game with the bath water or dish water, or whatever (in contrast to the "clean out the litter box" thread). My thoughts are already directed toward the SO-important game in Starkville next Saturday.

Oh, yes, the Cats' performance today was both disappointing AND embarrassing. HOWEVER, the Cats performed most similarly in Baton Rouge a couple of years ago. THOSE Cats went on to win a total of EIGHT games, including a bowl win (and duplicated that feat last season, making history :)). Can THESE Cats do the same? ABSOLUTELY!

Too, may that be the spirit of not only us fans, but especially our players! Yes, they CAN still have a GREAT season. It depends on the attitude they take after this loss. Look at how to correct the mistakes, of course, BUT then THROW IT OUT!!!

The defense as a MASH unit today. The special teams unit made THREE horrid mistakes that simply must be corrected (and Coach Brooks has already taken responsibility for those). May we see a mostly DIFFERENT team next Saturday, AND may they become bowl-eligible for the THIRD-straight season, thus making HISTORY still again! :icon_biggrin: GO CATS! BEAT MSU!

P.S. Change that to the defense "WAS" a MASH unit today.

[TrueblueCATfan]

Nice thread Poodoo:thumbup:

[BigBlue75]

This is probably one of the few, if not the only thread I'll read after today's game. Good thoughts, Poodoo. Today's performance was both disappointing and embarrassing. I think we will all agree on that. Now...
it's over. I doubt very seriously we'll see another game like that for a long time. Let's throw it out and move on.

[scathendo]

those who forget their history are doomed to repeat.

by that i mean, that yes, this team may turn it around and win a couple of more games this year and get a bowl bid; but they will not do it by forgetting this whooping. this game was exactly what this team has been flirting with all year. we finally met a team that could capitalize completely on our inept offense.

to forget this game and not make the necessary changes will only mean more of the same in the final box score. brooks said in his post game comments that the QB position is open... about time.

[billoliver40]

Great post, poodoo...dead on as always.:thumbup:

rest up, get healthy. four to go. the next one is big.

[POEKLM]

those who forget their history are doomed to repeat.

by that i mean, that yes, this team may turn it around and win a couple of more games this year and get a bowl bid; but they will not do it by forgetting this whooping. this game was exactly what this team has been flirting with all year. we finally met a team that could capitalize completely on our inept offense.

to forget this game and not make the necessary changes will only mean more of the same in the final box score. brooks said in his post game comments that the QB position is open... about time.

I don't think poodoo is suggesting that this team or the coaches forget this game. Hardly likely. We fans/posters need to move on.We have to get/stay behind this team.

[scathendo]

i'm sorry i'm not built to be a cheerleader. i've been behind this university for a long time :way before i ever became a student; as a student and now a long time grad. just because i'm critical of the poor performance of this installment of the football team does not make me less a fan.

i can't go into denial and hope for the best. i see a team that has not developed or adapted at all this year. it's my right to be critical and voice my criticism as much as it is poodoo and others to 'forget'.

i also feel that after coach brooks, joker and hartline have all come out publicly and been critical of fans (who have been right more than once in their criticism this year, or at least i've agreed with their criticism) it's even more appropriate to continue to voice my crticism, particularly on a web forum.

it would be a whole lot easier to write this game off and 'forget' if it wasn't the same type of gameplan/execution we've seen all year. but this game is just a symptom of a deeper problem. trying to wipe this one game out as a fluke, imo, just doesn't sit right.

[BowlingGreenUKGrad]

i also feel that after coach brooks, joker and hartline have all come out publicly and been critical of fans (who have been right more than once in their criticism this year, or at least i've agreed with their criticism) it's even more appropriate to continue to voice my crticism, particularly on a web forum.

You know... this made me remember Hartline's little display after the Arkansas win.

[BigBlue75]

trying to wipe this one game out as a fluke, imo, just doesn't sit right.

All we're saying is the team, nor we as fans, shouldn't let this game define the entire season, that's all.

[scathendo]

that's my point. this game does define the season to date. not in that it was a blow out but in that we again couldn't move the ball with hartline at QB and again showed that special teams can be special in that not so special way. if we continue to approach football games this way, how else do you define this season?

i was going to do a recap but it was getting long and i don't want to hijack poodoo's post. i start a new thread for the season to date recap for those who are interested.

[UKFBFAN]

Has anybody noticed that some of our receivers are beginning to catch the ball?

[Joe Hardy]

just got back from Gainesville.

Sat south endzone, and had a pretty good view. After the game, as the Cats walked back into the tunnel, they were met with some fairly heavy applause from the small UK section in the corner. I stood up from a few sections over and did the same.
The last thing these guys need is to be run down right now. They still played their hearts out today.

[gsb315]

I had intended to come here with this post, but, unfortunately, first read one other WCN thread. :icon_frown: Anyway, my title was going to be the same. I'm throwing out this performance and game with the bath water or dish water, or whatever (in contrast to the "clean out the litter box" thread). My thoughts are already directed toward the SO-important game in Starkville next Saturday.

Oh, yes, the Cats' performance today was both disappointing AND embarrassing. HOWEVER, the Cats performed most similarly in Baton Rouge a couple of years ago. THOSE Cats went on to win a total of EIGHT games, including a bowl win (and duplicated that feat last season, making history :)). Can THESE Cats do the same? ABSOLUTELY!

Too, may that be the spirit of not only us fans, but especially our players! Yes, they CAN still have a GREAT season. It depends on the attitude they take after this loss. Look at how to correct the mistakes, of course, BUT then THROW IT OUT!!!

The defense as a MASH unit today. The special teams unit made THREE horrid mistakes that simply must be corrected (and Coach Brooks has already taken responsibility for those). May we see a mostly DIFFERENT team next Saturday, AND may they become bowl-eligible for the THIRD-straight season, thus making HISTORY still again! :icon_biggrin: GO CATS! BEAT MSU!

P.S. Change that to the defense "WAS" a MASH unit today.


Amen!! I've played in and coached in games like this on the high school and college level. At both levels, we had good teams, sometimes great. However, occasionally we played a juggernaut that just outclassed us. Gotta throw it out and move on. If not, it will all go downhill.

I think the Miss. St. game is the most important game of the year. Win and we're bowl eligible for the third straight year. Any additional win thereafter just improves the bowl bid.

[catlovercardhater]

We have have 2 Very winnable games (miss st., vandy)
3 Winnable games (Miss st., Vandy, Tenn.)
and 1 tossup with Gerogia coming into our house

Look for us to comeback and comeback strong next week. Poodoo is the voice of reason here. The rest of our schedule is full of winable games! Hell, a 8-4 or 9-3 record is not out of sight... that alone is improvement from the last two years...when we had a LOADED offense.

[lighthouse]

Posting something negative about our CATS, isn't now, nor never will be in poodoo's nature. She is the most positive thinking person I know. :thumbup:

Others however, just can't help themselves. :thumbdn:

GO CATS, BEAT MISSISSIPPI STATE!!!

[BowlingGreenUKGrad]

Posting something negative about our CATS, isn't now, nor never will be in poodoo's nature. She is the most positive thinking person I know. :thumbup:

Others however, just can't help themselves. :thumbdn:]

There's nothing wrong with being a Pollyanna. But we need other kinds of more realistic people too. It's good for this board, and society in general.

[scathendo]

Posting something negative about our CATS, isn't now, nor never will be in poodoo's nature. She is the most positive thinking person I know. :thumbup:

Others however, just can't help themselves. :thumbdn:

GO CATS, BEAT MISSISSIPPI STATE!!!

why the thumbs up for one person who can't help themselves but a thumbs down for others?
not being able to post anything negative is just as narrow a view as not being able to post something positive. i prefer to be as informed and analytical as i can be and i can't help myself either.

everyone fan has different ways of dealing with an embarrassment like yesterday.

[poodoo]

Has anybody noticed that some of our receivers are beginning to catch the ball?

YES!!! I surely did, UKFBFAN. :) Too, THAT was a positive, especially in combination with Randall Cobb's performance yesterday. I had wondered if Randall Cobb could play much at the quarterback position after Lyons' going down. Yesterday, though, I saw receivers' doing a better job of catching the ball. That gives me more HOPE for the future of this offense. :)

[poodoo]

Look at how to correct the mistakes, of course, BUT then THROW IT OUT!!! QUOTE by poodoo
**********

I'm pasting this line for scathendo (and in no way do I object to your posts here, by the way). The UK football absolutely must work on correcting the mistakes, specifically the costly mistakes on special teams (still again :icon_frown:), as I had said in my original post. YET, they, too, must mostly "throw out" that game in regard to how they consider themselves as a team AND how this season can be for them. I'm throwing it out as an abberation, and I'm hoping the players do the same, AFTER concentrating on getting rid of some of the mistakes.

Actually, I have just heard columnist Larry Vaught say almost the same thing this morning on WLAP. He stressed that the team must focus on the rest of the season, NOT yesterday's game. IF those guys get down about that 63-5 score and think THAT is what they REALLY are, losing confidence in themselves, THEN we don't make a third-straight bowl appearance, accomplishing something that has not been accomplished in over half a century.

So I'm not only choosing to "throw out" that game as a fan (remembering a similar embarrassing, lopsided loss to LSU two years ago that was followed by a win in Starkville and eventually a bowl win), but also thinking it's MOST important for the players to do the same, while focusing hard on IMPROVEMENT, of course, and we agree on that last part, scathendo. :) Yes, I certainly hope the players are reminded often of two years ago as they practice this week and look to the REST of the season.

Coach Brooks said at halftime yesterday, "This is NOT who we are" (and, hopefully, the team will not be as "beaten up, health-wise," in the future). I SO agree. The team MUST think the same. The game Saturday is SO important, and I think we all agree on that. :) GO CATS! BEAT MSU!

[billoliver40]

I'm having a little problem with the severe disappointment levels.

Pre season, this team was picked by MANY very well thought of football writers as a 4-8 team.
A lot of us thought 6-6 would be mighty good, considering the losses in personnel.
Why is 5-3 such a nightmare, folks?

You don't build a program overnight. Not even in a couple of years. Yeah...we got a great class coming in. More three star kids than we ever thought of. Guess what? Thanks to the current coaching staff's redshirt program, these three star kids compete pretty successfully against teams like Bama and Florida State who don't usually look at kids that aren't 4 star or higher.

Takes time.

[poodoo]

Amen!! I've played in and coached in games like this on the high school and college level. At both levels, we had good teams, sometimes great. However, occasionally we played a juggernaut that just outclassed us. Gotta throw it out and move on. If not, it will all go downhill.

I think the Miss. St. game is the most important game of the year. Win and we're bowl eligible for the third straight year. Any additional win thereafter just improves the bowl bid.

BINGO! While I have neither played in a game nor coached a game, we see it EXACTLY the same, gsb315. :icon_biggrin: IF the team does not "throw it out and move on" (after working on correcting mistakes), it will indeed "go downhill." Too, I had said to my husband last night that the MSU game is "the most important game of the year" (and not only because it's our next game). Again, BINGO. :icon_biggrin:

[CATHYnKY]

I'm as disappointed as any of you. BUT....this team is not doomed the rest of the season. Get some of them healthy, learn from this game and move on. There will be negative posts today. So be it. Just make sure you are in your seat in a couple of weeks and cheer.

[scathendo]

Look at how to correct the mistakes, of course, BUT then THROW IT OUT!!! QUOTE by poodoo
**********

I'm pasting this line for scathendo (and in no way do I object to your posts here, by the way). The UK football absolutely must work on correcting the mistakes, specifically the costly mistakes on special teams (still again :icon_frown:), as I had said in my original post. YET, they, too, must mostly "throw out" that game in regard to how they consider themselves as a team AND how this season can be for them. I'm throwing it out as an abberation, and I'm hoping the players do the same, AFTER concentrating on getting rid of some of the mistakes.

Actually, I have just heard columnist Larry Vaught say almost the same thing this morning on WLAP. He stressed that the team must focus on the rest of the season, NOT yesterday's game. IF those guys get down about that 63-5 score and think THAT is what they REALLY are, losing confidence in themselves, THEN we don't make a third-straight bowl appearance, accomplishing something that has not been accomplished in over half a century.

So I'm not only choosing to "throw out" that game as a fan (remembering a similar embarrassing, lopsided loss to LSU two years ago that was followed by a win in Starkville and eventually a bowl win), but also thinking it's MOST important for the players to do the same, while focusing hard on IMPROVEMENT, of course, and we agree on that last part, scathendo. :) Yes, I certainly hope the players are reminded often of two years ago as they practice this week and look to the REST of the season.

Coach Brooks said at halftime yesterday, "This is NOT who we are" (and, hopefully, the team will not be as "beaten up, health-wise," in the future). I SO agree. The team MUST think the same. The game Saturday is SO important, and I think we all agree on that. :) GO CATS! BEAT MSU!

i agree with you.....i think..... you certainly have to remain positive and work to improve. i guess my sticking point is that in my view, these problems have refused to go away this season. i think i'm just wary of denial rather then fixing and moving on. i'm all for the latter. but i also haven't seen much evidence this year of this team being able to fix. hence my reservation to forget.

[poodoo]

There's nothing wrong with being a Pollyanna. But we need other kinds of more realistic people too. It's good for this board, and society in general.

So true. I agree. YET, I want to clarify that I, personally, am not a "Pollyanna" to the extent of being less realistic.

I do not come here making predictions of nothing but wins (and, in fact, I won't even make them at all). There's nothing in my post that says what WILL happen. I do believe, though, in FOCUSING on any POSITIVES that can be found, for I see dwelling in misery, doom, and gloom (and pointing fingers) as non-constructive. Regardless, I absolutely agree with what you say in regard both to this board and society in general. GO CATS! BEAT MSU!

[scathendo]

I'm having a little problem with the severe disappointment levels.

Pre season, this team was picked by MANY very well thought of football writers as a 4-8 team.
A lot of us thought 6-6 would be mighty good, considering the losses in personnel.
Why is 5-3 such a nightmare, folks?

You don't build a program overnight. Not even in a couple of years. Yeah...we got a great class coming in. More three star kids than we ever thought of. Guess what? Thanks to the current coaching staff's redshirt program, these three star kids compete pretty successfully against teams like Bama and Florida State who don't usually look at kids that aren't 4 star or higher.

Takes time.

yes we are on pace to live up to our preseason predictions. the sting comes in seeing how close we are to having a much better season if we could just capitalize on the things that are going right and fix or minimize the things that are not. for the record, i'm really looking forward to the future of the program due to this staff's ability to recruit. but i'm also ticked that we couldn't grab a W against 'bama and SC, both games that we had a chance to win. like coach 'G' says, we want to be perfect everyday. we know we can't but that is what we aim for.

[scathendo]

I'm as disappointed as any of you. BUT....this team is not doomed the rest of the season. Get some of them healthy, learn from this game and move on. There will be negative posts today. So be it. Just make sure you are in your seat in a couple of weeks and cheer.

right on!

[TrueblueCATfan]

I'm as disappointed as any of you. BUT....this team is not doomed the rest of the season. Get some of them healthy, learn from this game and move on. There will be negative posts today. So be it. Just make sure you are in your seat in a couple of weeks and cheer.
you go girl:thumbup:

[BigBlue75]

i can't go into denial and hope for the best. i see a team that has not developed or adapted at all this year. it's my right to be critical and voice my criticism as much as it is poodoo and others to 'forget'.



PooDoo, myself, lighthouse, and several others I could name choose to look for positives where we can find them, and in situations like yesterday's game, we choose to say let's just move on. None of us is "forgetting" anything nor are we ignoring anything. We're just as frustrated as you are, but choosing to be positive is NOT GOING INTO DENIAL and any implication to the contrary is WRONG. Period. Be critical as much as you like and dissect the game ad nauseum if you want, but just because we're not choosing to look at it as you do doesn't make us wrong.

[scathendo]

i agree with you.....i think..... you certainly have to remain positive and work to improve. i guess my sticking point is that in my view, these problems have refused to go away this season. i think i'm just wary of denial rather then fixing and moving on. i'm all for the latter. but i also haven't seen much evidence this year of this team being able to fix. hence my reservation to forget.

i believe the full quote shows that i'm respectful of your opinion. i even said that i thought that i agreed with poodoo (hope you read this). i was just trying to explain why i think the canary is falling over in the coalmine and if we ignore the canary we could be in trouble. i'm pretty sure now after a civil exchange with poodoo that she doesn't want to ignore the canary, she just hopse that the problem gets fixed and we can move on. i agree completely. i'm looking for clues that the problem has been fixed. that's the only difference.

i'm looking for positives as well. cobb is a huge positive as is the incoming class; as is the level that the program has risen to that we are actually still worried about the season.

the thumbs down by lighthouse for people who don't see it his way is just the latest post i've seen along the 'your not as good a fan as i am' posts. they are growing exponentially and ruining the only site i've found where one can actually have a civil debate/discussion/pep rally about UK athletics. hopefully it can turn and we can all be respectful of each others opinions without personally attacking someones loyalty to the team.

[scathendo]

btw when i spoke of going into denial i was speaking personally. i would have to go into denial because it's my nature to question.

[BigBlue75]

i believe the full quote shows that i'm respectful of your opinion. i even said that i thought that i agreed with poodoo (hope you read this). i was just trying to explain why i think the canary is falling over in the coalmine and if we ignore the canary we could be in trouble. i'm pretty sure now after a civil exchange with poodoo that she doesn't want to ignore the canary, she just hopse that the problem gets fixed and we can move on. i agree completely. i'm looking for clues that the problem has been fixed. that's the only difference.

i'm looking for positives as well. cobb is a huge positive as is the incoming class; as is the level that the program has risen to that we are actually still worried about the season.

the thumbs down by lighthouse for people who don't see it his way is just the latest post i've seen along the 'your not as good a fan as i am' posts. they are growing exponentially and ruining the only site i've found where one can actually have a civil debate/discussion/pep rally about UK athletics. hopefully it can turn and we can all be respectful of each others opinions without personally attacking someones loyalty to the team.

Look, we're all frustrated with the outcome of yesterday's game. We all knew it was going to be difficult to beat Florida and a Gator victory was probably going to happen, but we ALL wanted the team to play better and at least have a respectable showing. It didn't happen. It was just one of those games that come along from time to time. No one is saying there aren't issues that need to be addressed and changes that need to be made. We all have our own ways of dealing with it and it doesn't make any of us wrong.
What we DON'T need is threads started out of knee jerk reactions, like the ones that call for the entire coaching staff to be fired or imply in some form or fashion that the team hasn't progressed or can't compete in the SEC. The worst thing that happens is people log on to the forums immediately after the game and write five or six paragraph indictments against the team. That's counter-productive and doesn't help anything.

I want to make it very clear that I am not aware of ANYONE who frequents this forum who think they're a better UK fan than anyone else or who thinks their loyalty to the program is stronger or better. I've met lighthouse in person and you need to know that you're DEAD WRONG if you think he falls into that category. Just because someone doesn't agree with you and uses creative icons to make his point doesn't mean he's calling you out as less of a fan.

I read your recap of the game in the other thread and several other of your posts about the game. Now, you might not have intended it to come across that way and you probably just thought you were giving an honest critique, and all that is well and good, but as someone who read them, the impression you left was one of negativity and you sure as heck aren't giving Mike Hartline any reason to keep playing.

I think what needs to happen is we all need to get over the shock of the loss and move on. We certainly can't do anything to change the outcome yesterday, but we do have a chance to make adjustments and beat the crap out of Mississippi State next week. ;):thumbup:

[scathendo]

Look, we're all frustrated with the outcome of yesterday's game. We all knew it was going to be difficult to beat Florida and a Gator victory was probably going to happen, but we ALL wanted the team to play better and at least have a respectable showing. It didn't happen. It was just one of those games that come along from time to time. No one is saying there aren't issues that need to be addressed and changes that need to be made. We all have our own ways of dealing with it and it doesn't make any of us wrong.
What we DON'T need is threads started out of knee jerk reactions, like the ones that call for the entire coaching staff to be fired or imply in some form or fashion that the team hasn't progressed or can't compete in the SEC. The worst thing that happens is people log on to the forums immediately after the game and write five or six paragraph indictments against the team. That's counter-productive and doesn't help anything.

why are you still trying to pick a fight with me? i'm not saying your wrong. i'm saying my nature is different and i'm built to question. it makes me very good at what i do for a living. and i've never said that we can't compete. in fact i'm taking flack for expecting more. show me where i'm saying we are not progressing or that the coaching staff needs to be changed. i'm not.

I want to make it very clear that I am not aware of ANYONE who frequents this forum who think they're a better UK fan than anyone else or who thinks their loyalty to the program is stronger or better.

then you haven't been reading a lot of posts since the arkansas game. some of the titles alone talk about the real fans vs. 'the others'.

I've met lighthouse in person and you need to know that you're DEAD WRONG if you think he falls into that category. Just because someone doesn't agree with you and uses creative icons to make his point doesn't mean he's calling you out as less of a fan.

i'm sure he's a good man and i've had several discussions with him in the past. sometimes i agree sometimes i don't. in this particular case his quote has a thumbs up for someone who agrees with him and a thumbs down for 'others who can't help themselves'. i read that as an 'us and them' comment within the UK fan family and i've just seen too much of that lately.

I read your recap of the game in the other thread and several other of your posts about the game. Now, you might not have intended it to come across that way and you probably just thought you were giving an honest critique, and all that is well and good, but as someone who read them, the impression you left was one of negativity and you sure as heck aren't giving Mike Hartline any reason to keep playing.

sorry. i actually was negative about the florida game. it was intentional because i believe that the problems the became so obvious in the florida game have been there all season. help me out. what did hartline do positively in the game? tell me outside of Cobb and Lindley what you take away from that game that is positive. back it up with some stats and facts. it's not up to me to give hartline a reason to keep playing. i want him on the team for sure. i just don't think he's getting it done as a starter.

I think what needs to happen is we all need to get over the shock of the loss and move on. We certainly can't do anything to change the outcome yesterday, but we do have a chance to make adjustments and beat the crap out of Mississippi State next week. ;):thumbup:

i agree with this part completely!

[BigBlue75]

Look, we're all frustrated with the outcome of yesterday's game. We all knew it was going to be difficult to beat Florida and a Gator victory was probably going to happen, but we ALL wanted the team to play better and at least have a respectable showing. It didn't happen. It was just one of those games that come along from time to time. No one is saying there aren't issues that need to be addressed and changes that need to be made. We all have our own ways of dealing with it and it doesn't make any of us wrong.
What we DON'T need is threads started out of knee jerk reactions, like the ones that call for the entire coaching staff to be fired or imply in some form or fashion that the team hasn't progressed or can't compete in the SEC. The worst thing that happens is people log on to the forums immediately after the game and write five or six paragraph indictments against the team. That's counter-productive and doesn't help anything.

why are you still trying to pick a fight with me? i'm not saying your wrong. i'm saying my nature is different and i'm built to question. it makes me very good at what i do for a living. and i've never said that we can't compete. in fact i'm taking flack for expecting more. show me where i'm saying we are not progressing or that the coaching staff needs to be changed. i'm not.

I want to make it very clear that I am not aware of ANYONE who frequents this forum who think they're a better UK fan than anyone else or who thinks their loyalty to the program is stronger or better.

then you haven't been reading a lot of posts since the arkansas game. some of the titles alone talk about the real fans vs. 'the others'.

I've met lighthouse in person and you need to know that you're DEAD WRONG if you think he falls into that category. Just because someone doesn't agree with you and uses creative icons to make his point doesn't mean he's calling you out as less of a fan.

i'm sure he's a good man and i've had several discussions with him in the past. sometimes i agree sometimes i don't. in this particular case his quote has a thumbs up for someone who agrees with him and a thumbs down for 'others who can't help themselves'. i read that as an 'us and them' comment within the UK fan family and i've just seen too much of that lately.

I read your recap of the game in the other thread and several other of your posts about the game. Now, you might not have intended it to come across that way and you probably just thought you were giving an honest critique, and all that is well and good, but as someone who read them, the impression you left was one of negativity and you sure as heck aren't giving Mike Hartline any reason to keep playing.

sorry. i actually was negative about the florida game. it was intentional because i believe that the problems the became so obvious in the florida game have been there all season. help me out. what did hartline do positively in the game? tell me outside of Cobb and Lindley what you take away from that game that is positive. back it up with some stats and facts. it's not up to me to give hartline a reason to keep playing. i want him on the team for sure. i just don't think he's getting it done as a starter.

I think what needs to happen is we all need to get over the shock of the loss and move on. We certainly can't do anything to change the outcome yesterday, but we do have a chance to make adjustments and beat the crap out of Mississippi State next week. ;):thumbup:

i agree with this part completely!

Okay, whatever. The last comment I'll make is I wasn't and am not trying to pick a fight with you. You're reading intent that isn't there. I was just trying to bring some understanding, that's all. I'm sorry you feel like that.

Let's move on and beat the Bulldogs next week.

[poodoo]

I'm as disappointed as any of you. BUT....this team is not doomed the rest of the season. Get some of them healthy, learn from this game and move on. There will be negative posts today. So be it. Just make sure you are in your seat in a couple of weeks and cheer.

:thumbup::thumbup:, Cathy. Also, I'll just change those last two words to boldface print:
AND CHEER. :)

P.S. While I cannot actually speak for lighthouse's intentions (although I will agree that he is a fine, non-assuming person), scathendo, I strongly suspect he had been reacting to the other thread in which firing Brooks and the other coaches had been the reaction to the loss. By the way, Coach Brooks himself knows, as he has shared, that those special team mistakes MUST be fixed. Also, both he and Joker have expressed concern over our offense's not having improved at a faster rate. It is reality, though, that this team has been TERRIBLY hit by injuries this season. That certainly helps me deal better with Saturday's performance. Some players were out, and some defenders would have not played IF their backups could have performed as well. For me, it's BE PATIENT and HOPE for healthier, improved play Saturday. I remember well how we lost by only three points to #2 Alabama in Tuscaloosa, and that was without both Micah Johnson and Randall Cobb. Saturday's team was, in contrast, without both our leading wide receiver and rusher and with many injured defensive players' attempting to play. Hang in there.

[VirginiaBlue]

I'm repeating what has already been said, but we all need to remember that we went down there with only a very faint hope of winning the game. Beating UF with all their talent in the swamp was a lot to ask. We expected an L, we got an L. (A capital L, but still just an L.)

We also need to remember that the way the game unfolded pretty much told the story. When you give any team 2 gift TD's in the first 5 minutes, you're going to have trouble making it up; when you give UF (or any other top ten team) 2 gifts, it's game over.

We as fans need to back off the coaches and the players. They need to regroup, and they need us to support them. This is not the time for "fire Rich" and "bench Hartline" discussions. They can't put that debacle behind them unless we do. I'm glad we're on the road next week, because if the team came out in Commonwealth and got booed by their home crowd - which I can almost guarantee would happen, with what I'm reading here - they might just cash it in for the year. For the progam, it could be the end of the progress that has been made over the past 2 years. If you were a recruit, would you want to play for fans like that?

We are 3 point underdogs on the road at Miss State. I believe that the guys will suck it up and take it to the Bulldogs. We got Georgia at home, and I believe that we can do what we did 2 years ago. Vandy just got beat by freakin' Duke, and I believe that our JV team - if we had one - could beat Duke. And I believe that this is our year to smear the Orange. If I didn't "believe", I wouldn't be a fan in the first place...:beer:

[poodoo]

I'm repeating what has already been said, but we all need to remember that we went down there with only a very faint hope of winning the game. Beating UF with all their talent in the swamp was a lot to ask. We expected an L, we got an L. (A capital L, but still just an L.)

We also need to remember that the way the game unfolded pretty much told the story. When you give any team 2 gift TD's in the first 5 minutes, you're going to have trouble making it up; when you give UF (or any other top ten team) 2 gifts, it's game over.

We as fans need to back off the coaches and the players. They need to regroup, and they need us to support them. This is not the time for "fire Rich" and "bench Hartline" discussions. They can't put that debacle behind them unless we do. I'm glad we're on the road next week, because if the team came out in Commonwealth and got booed by their home crowd - which I can almost guarantee would happen, with what I'm reading here - they might just cash it in for the year. For the progam, it could be the end of the progress that has been made over the past 2 years. If you were a recruit, would you want to play for fans like that?

We are 3 point underdogs on the road at Miss State. I believe that the guys will suck it up and take it to the Bulldogs. We got Georgia at home, and I believe that we can do what we did 2 years ago. Vandy just got beat by freakin' Duke, and I believe that our JV team - if we had one - could beat Duke. And I believe that this is our year to smear the Orange. If I didn't "believe", I wouldn't be a fan in the first place...:beer:

:thumbup::thumbup: and more, VirginiaBlue. The players and coaches do especially need our SUPPORT now. Also, specifically, I, too, have been thinking that I'm GLAD this week's game is on the road. I, too, would have feared that some fans, certainly in a worse mood than earlier this season, would boo our coaches' decisions in regard to who starts at quarterback, plus any particularly disappointing performances, AND that such could have negatively affected a team with a damaged ego, along with hurting recruiting. Yes, it's a GOOD time to have the game on the road (although it's "killing" me that I won't get to see it).

I hear you, VirginiaBlue. I, too, am thinking of other most possible to likely WINS for this now 5-3 team. :) It needs to begin in Starkville, of course. :) GO CATS! BEAT MSU!

[UKHAS7NCAA]

Thanks for keeping things positive Mrs. Poodoo.

[poodoo]

Thanks for keeping things positive Mrs. Poodoo.

You are most welcome, UKHASNCAA, and thanks to you for saying so. :) Also, I truly continue to believe in this team as much as I did before the uncharacterstic performance in Florida.

Too, this upcoming game in Starkville is SO important. To me, it's especially important that we keep the POSITIVE ENERGY flowing after a lopsided loss like the one in Gainesville.

May the players still BELIEVE in themselves, and may we fans help them to do so. :) GO CATS! BEAT MSU!