Harrelson unhappy and leaving UK????

[crazzedcats22]

First off, I'm not trying to start rumors or have sources on this so don't rip me on this one. But, this morning, here in St. Louis (where Josh is from), 2 different sports talk radio stations were talking about UK and Harrelson. Both pretty much said the same thing...Josh is unhappy at UK specifically with his playing time and is considering a transfer at semester. They apparently were getting this info from people close to Josh.

If you remember it came down to SLU and UK for Harrelson, and Josh said that he chose UK for the tradition, etc... but also because he was told by BCG that we would play just as much at UK as he would at SLU. He feels like he was misled into what his role would be at UK. Obviously, that's not the case now since he's not playing here and would have gotten 25-30 minutes per game at SLU.

I'm not saying BCG promised anything to Josh or that this is true I just thought it was strange that two different stations were talking about it this morning. Not sure if there is anything to this or not, just wanted to pass aong what I heard on the radio today.

[matt colvin]

Definitely NOT what we need.

[TrueblueCATfan]

Definitely NOT what we need.

no it is not .....considering we already had 2 transfer

[ladycatfan01]

I know about a week ago some folks had read Josh's facebook status and it said I am done. On several message boards folks were up in arms that he was leaving but then he rewrote his status to read I am done with losing and no leadership....etc. Perhaps this is where that is coming from.

[wildcat6]

Please say it isn't true Josh! We really need you for this year and next! I agree he needs more pt and I have been saying all along I feel like he should start but give it a little more time just yet and maybe you will. The one thing I have noticed about coach is that he moves slowly on things like this but it is because he doesn't want to throw you out to the wolves unless your ready to defend yourself.

[Blue Bleeder1]

I don't want to see this happen, but where there's smoke.....


Three transfers starting your second season (Coury, Legion, and Jasper) isn't good. I still think BCG is the man for the job. We'll see when he gets a few of his recruiting classes here.

[John Clay Rice Jr.]

I hope it's not true.

[BigBlue75]

Let's just wait and see how it plays out.

[Joe Hardy]

I hope it's not true but at the same time we NEED him a lot less than he NEEDS us. IF he wants to blow an opportunity at playing for a legendary school, making a final four, and winning some SEC titles, as opposed to working harder and earning his pt, than he, hypothetically, would not be the type of person I would want on our team anyway.

If he is unhappy for any other, more "legit" reasons, than best wishes to him. But frankly, him bailing over playing time would be a blessing for us in the long run.

hopefully though this is indeed a rumor.

[lighthouse]

We will need this young man this year. Hoping it's just talk show stuff.

[JWORLD]

Damn, when does it ever stop!!!!!!!!!

[RaleighCat]

Damn, when does it ever stop!!!!!!!!!

When does what stop?

Who knows if Harrelson is happy or not? He's played some minutes and done OK. Not all that great, but not all that poorly.
BCG mentioned Harrelson in his post-game comments Saturday and insinuated Josh has a hard time motivating himself. Said that players can't wait on their Coach to motivate them.

[blueshock]

i certainly hope this is not true but josh needs to be patient and work hard. his ability is obvious but his lack of experience is also obvious. you can't teach ability but you can get experience.

in the article in the HL about him, his high school coach said he had a tendency to not work hard and "take days off." this could still be a problem for him???

[Cat Country]

I hope it is not true either, but remember this.....TWO players will have to leave OR give up their scholarship to make room for the 2009 class.....I've thought all along that it would be Stewart and possibly Galloway. I don't hope it is Harrelson but it will be someone.

[JWORLD]

I hope it is not true either, but remember this.....TWO players will have to leave OR give up their scholarship to make room for the 2009 class.....I've thought all along that it would be Stewart and possibly Galloway. I don't hope it is Harrelson but it will be someone.


How about Carter and Stephenson?

[TrueblueCATfan]

How about Carter and Stephenson?

I thought Carter was a senior this year

[jfthom2]

I know nothing of the situation, but what I'm saying is that if you want more PT, you know how to get it with Coach. So get it done in practice and then in the game.

[Cat Country]

I thought Carter was a senior this year


carter is a senior but Orton, Hood, and Vilarino are coming in..

[Matt Dillon]

I thought Carter was a senior this year

He is.

[TrueblueCATfan]

carter is a senior but Orton, Hood, and Vilarino are coming in..

well if carter is a senior he will be gone next year so his scholarship will be available for incoming class of 09

[cumberlandredskin]

He is.

He is eligible for a medical redshirt year. But it would surprise me if UK applys for that for him.

[Cat Country]

well if carter is a senior he will be gone next year so his scholarship will be available for incoming class of 09


Exactly right, but Stevenson isn't a senior. So we need two more.

[phantompain]

I don't want to see this happen, but where there's smoke.....


Three transfers starting your second season (Coury, Legion, and Jasper) isn't good. I still think BCG is the man for the job. We'll see when he gets a few of his recruiting classes here.

Transfers happen every year at just about every school. Look at this list of transfers from last year:

http://collegebasketball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=667122

You will find many teams, even SEC schools, that have multiple transfers. This happens every year. Really has nothing to do with BCG being a fit for UK or not.

[UKManCalipariFan71]

He is eligible for a medical redshirt year. But it would surprise me if UK applys for that for him.

This subject has been brought up before in regard to Carter and the fifth year. If the decision to not come back is forced on him, the media will absolutely crucify us for it. The other possibility is for Jared maybe taking an academic scholarship. From what I understand, unless something has changed, he has carried a 3.4 or higher GPA during his time here.

[Matt Dillon]

Why would Jared want to come back? He never gets to play.

[hardwood2]

I don't care who you are, it's not a good thing to recruit players and then run the off to "make room" for more. In the end, you'll lose a lot of good potential recruits that way.

[phantompain]

I don't care who you are, it's not a good thing to recruit players and then run the off to "make room" for more. In the end, you'll lose a lot of good potential recruits that way.

Why is it necessarily that he is trying to "run them off to make room?" Could it not just be that the players that are allegedly being run off just don't mesh with him or his style? Maybe they aren't giving enough effort or learning enough and that is why things are working out the way they are, which is more than likely the reason.

Legion didn't want to work as hard as BCG wants. That was evident in interviews he gave afterwards. Coury was a walk on that saw he wouldn't be playing much this year so he decided to go elsewhere. Morakinyo was the same situation. Jasper left for whatever reason, be it his girlfriend, homesick, felt he was rushed back, but he wasn't "run off." If someone else leaves it is because they want to, not because BCG is "running them off."

I find it funny how people that never attend a practice or have any relationship with players that give them insight, can speak so definitively about the program or coach. The University of Kentucky is a HIGH MAJOR basketball program that should demand the most out of all their players and that is what BCG is doing. I see nothing wrong with that. If you can hang, learn the way you are supposed to, and can give 100% effort everyday in practice and in the game, then the player will see playing time when they are needed. If you can't, then find greener pastures.

[HozeKing]

[quote=Blue Bleeder1;544941]

Three transfers starting your second season (Coury, Legion, and Jasper) isn't good. quote]

Exactly...losing Harrelson is secondary to the message that it sends to recruits. This is not good. This will be used against Billy in every big recruits living room by others....and it may be legit. What is the reason behind this 'history'?

[phantompain]

[quote=Blue Bleeder1;544941]

Three transfers starting your second season (Coury, Legion, and Jasper) isn't good. quote]

Exactly...losing Harrelson is secondary to the message that it sends to recruits. This is not good. This will be used against Billy in every big recruits living room by others....and it may be legit. What is the reason behind this 'history'?

Read my last two posts. Click on the link about the transfers. It happens EVERYWHERE, EVERY YEAR.

[HozeKing]

Said that players can't wait on their Coach to motivate them.

He said that?? That is real troubling. Every coach and every leader for that matter is expected to motivate. A general is expected to motivate his troops, a teacher her students, a CEO his employees, etc. If he is shirking his responsiblities in this area and blaming the players....that isn't good at all.

[ryanebelhar]

at the first exhibition game this year a "wildcat trivia!" thing popped up on the screens and said that Jared Carter would be the only senior on senior night this year.

[HozeKing]

I don't care who you are, it's not a good thing to recruit players and then run the off to "make room" for more. In the end, you'll lose a lot of good potential recruits that way.


...finally a voice of reason....not to mention fairness.

[phantompain]

...finally a voice of reason....not to mention fairness.

uggh:icon_rolleyes:

[HozeKing]

[quote=HozeKing;545078]

Read my last two posts. Click on the link about the transfers. It happens EVERYWHERE, EVERY YEAR.

Yea, I looked at your link...interesting information. However, it is also interesting to note that the teams that you'd like to emulate are absent on the list...UNC, Kansas, UofL...to name three.

(...yea, I know, you don't want to emulate these schools, espcially Louisvile...you expect better, so spare me the reply)

[crazzedcats22]

...finally a voice of reason....not to mention fairness.

I agree! Having multiple transfers doesn't look good nor benefit anyone. :thumbup:

[CliffHawkins#1Fan]

not only do we not need to emulate Louisville, we don't need to adopt a program based on "fairness." When does something being fair constitute how to run a program. Show up with your lunch pale, work your *** off, listen and execute what it is that is being taught to you and i bet many of these transferring players would realize what "fair" is.

[crazzedcats22]

Transfers happen every year at just about every school. Look at this list of transfers from last year:

http://collegebasketball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=667122

You will find many teams, even SEC schools, that have multiple transfers. This happens every year. Really has nothing to do with BCG being a fit for UK or not.

There's not a whole lot of teams on this list that I would like UK to be similar to. Transfers do nothing beneficial to a team. A transfer every now and again would be understandable, but we already have had Legion, Williams, Coury, and Jasper leave since BCG got here.

[UKManCalipariFan71]

He said that?? That is real troubling. Every coach and every leader for that matter is expected to motivate. A general is expected to motivate his troops, a teacher her students, a CEO his employees, etc. If he is shirking his responsiblities in this area and blaming the players....that isn't good at all.

I think he was probably referring to what Josh does in his down time (away from practice) and maybe how he approaches practices and games. It is a coach's job to light a fire under a kids ***, but that is hard to do if the kid wants to put out the flames.

Not to get off the subject here, and not trying to point fingers. However, if I was trying to analyze you, I might think you were a bit sexist with that paragraph. General = He, CEO = He, Teacher = She.

[phantompain]

There's not a whole lot of teams on this list that I would like UK to be similar to. Transfers do nothing beneficial to a team. A transfer every now and again would be ok, but we already have Legion, Williams, Coury, and Jasper who have left since BCG got here.

Out of those 4 players, the only one to have any concern over would be Jasper. Legion seems to have problems bouncing around programs from High School to College. The other two were walk ons.

[crazzedcats22]

Out of those 4 players, the only one to have any concern over would be Jasper. Legion seems to have problems bouncing around programs from High School to College. The other two were walk ons.

It doesn't matter if they are 5 star recruits or the waterboy....every coach we go up against in recruiting will bring up the fact that we have had multiple players leave BCG's program because they were unhappy. Doesn't matter why they left.

Please explain to me how you can rationalize that 4 players (possibly a 5th) leaving in less than 2 years is a good thing. You can't, because it isn't.

[UKManCalipariFan71]

I don't care who you are, it's not a good thing to recruit players and then run the off to "make room" for more. In the end, you'll lose a lot of good potential recruits that way.

And I could be wrong, but I think what hardwood2 was referring to was the prospect of UK not seeking a Medical Redshirt for Carter based on his ability. If I was a rival coach, and UK declined to get a fifth year for a kid that was in great academic standing and who had been injured while playing for the school, I would sure as hell use that as a counter selling point.

[WILD BLUE YONDER CAT]

There's not a whole lot of teams on this list that I would like UK to be similar to. Transfers do nothing beneficial to a team. A transfer every now and again would be understandable, but we already have had Legion, Williams, Coury, and Jasper leave since BCG got here.

What you guys have been saying...

[HozeKing]

not only do we not need to emulate Louisville, we don't need to adopt a program based on "fairness." .

...why would any program want to treat a 17 yr old kid fairly? Good grief...has it really come to this?

[TrueblueCATfan]

Why don't we all wait until Harrellson himself says he is leaving..until then it is just rumor

[phantompain]

well I guess you guys are right. The end of the world has come. On top of that, we have now`learned after a season and 3 games, that we got the wrong coach. Unbelievable how this has all happened:icon_rolleyes:

[Joe Hardy]

I agree! Having multiple transfers doesn't look good nor benefit anyone. :thumbup:



Please explain to me how you can rationalize that 4 players (possibly a 5th) leaving in less than 2 years is a good thing. You can't, because it isn't.

let's see.......Billy Donovan has had Christian Dreijer (to play pro), Brandon Powell, David Huertas, Ryan Appleby, Mohammed Abukar, Mario Boggan, James White, Jimmie Sutton, Orien Green, Rashid Al-Kaleem, Jonathan Mitchell, Jack Berry, and Jai Lucas leave during the last 7 or so years. So I guess you're right....I won't even try to rationalize because all Billy has to show for it is two national titles and everybody knows that in this day and age those things are a dime a dozen!

here's another list (from oct 2007) of recent transfers from sec schools:
there's alot so it's easy to understand why the SEC has sucked so bad lately.



Alabama- Avery Jukes, Verice Cloyd, Akini Adkins, Shawn Taylor, Albert Weber, Glen Miles, LaKory Daniels, Sam Haginas, Justin Jonas. (9)
Arkansas- Sylvester Seay, Preston Cranford, Sean McCurdy, Berry Jordan, JJ Sullinger, Wen Mukubu, Rashard Sullivan, Kendrick Davis. (8)
Auburn- Toney Douglas, Lewis Monroe, Marco Killingsworth, DeWayne Curtis, Joey Cameron, Kelvin Lewis, Brandon Robinson, Ryan Daniel, Michael Woodard, Emmanuel Lewis, Daniel Hayles, Moses Edun. (12)
Florida- Teddy Dupay (gambling), Christian Dreijer (to play pro), Brandon Powell, David Huertas, Ryan Appleby, Mohammed Abukar, Mario Boggan, James White, Jimmie Sutton, Orien Green, Rashid Al-Kaleem. (11)
Georgia- Channing Toney, Wayne Arnold, Marcus Sikes, Younes Idrissi, Kendrick Johnson, Steve Thomas, Mike Dean. (7)
Kentucky (under Tubby)- Adam Williams, Bernard Cote, Rekalin Sims, Shagari Alleyne, Jason Parker, Marvin Stone, Myron Anthony, Corey Sears, Desmond Allison, Nate Knight, Todd Tackett, Rashaad Carruth, Adam Chiles, Michael Bradley. (14)
LSU- Ross Neltner, Magnum Rolle, Ben Voogd, Kentrell Gransberry, Tack Minor, Regis Koundija, Josh Maravich, JueMichael Young, Mildon Ambres, Tim Bush, Tony Gipson. (11)
Mississippi State- Richard Delk, Reginald Delk, Vernon Goodridge, Bernard Rimmer, Gary Ervin, Walter Sharpe, Jerrell Houston, Steven Cowherd. (8)
Ole Miss- Justin Cerasoli, Trey Hampton, Andy Ogide, Xavier Hansbro
South Carolina- Jason Parker, Dameon Kinloch, Travis Kraft, Calvin Clemmons, Jojo Cadray, Issa Konare, Marcus Morrison, Paulius Jonelunius, Stephen McDowell, Ousmane Konate, Jarrod Gerald, Keving Palacios, Greg Taylor. (13)
Tennessee- Marques Johnson, Harris Walker, Terrance Woods, Boomer Herndon, Damion Harris, John Winchester, Elgrace Wilborn, Tony Passley. (8)
Vanderbilt- Richmond, Jones, Kreuger, Plavich, Thornton, Payton, Carroll, Madsen, Brown. (9)



http://www.willpridemore.com/2007/10/on-basketball-departures.html

[phantompain]

let's see.......Billy Donovan has had Christian Dreijer (to play pro), Brandon Powell, David Huertas, Ryan Appleby, Mohammed Abukar, Mario Boggan, James White, Jimmie Sutton, Orien Green, Rashid Al-Kaleem, Jonathan Mitchell, Jack Berry, and Jai Lucas leave during the last 7 or so years. So I guess you're right....I won't even try to rationalize because all Billy has to show for it is two national titles and everybody knows that in this day and age those things are a dime a dozen!

here's another list (from oct 2007) of recent transfers from sec schools:
there's alot so it's easy to understand why the SEC has sucked so bad lately.



Alabama- Avery Jukes, Verice Cloyd, Akini Adkins, Shawn Taylor, Albert Weber, Glen Miles, LaKory Daniels, Sam Haginas, Justin Jonas. (9)
Arkansas- Sylvester Seay, Preston Cranford, Sean McCurdy, Berry Jordan, JJ Sullinger, Wen Mukubu, Rashard Sullivan, Kendrick Davis. (8)
Auburn- Toney Douglas, Lewis Monroe, Marco Killingsworth, DeWayne Curtis, Joey Cameron, Kelvin Lewis, Brandon Robinson, Ryan Daniel, Michael Woodard, Emmanuel Lewis, Daniel Hayles, Moses Edun. (12)
Florida- Teddy Dupay (gambling), Christian Dreijer (to play pro), Brandon Powell, David Huertas, Ryan Appleby, Mohammed Abukar, Mario Boggan, James White, Jimmie Sutton, Orien Green, Rashid Al-Kaleem. (11)
Georgia- Channing Toney, Wayne Arnold, Marcus Sikes, Younes Idrissi, Kendrick Johnson, Steve Thomas, Mike Dean. (7)
Kentucky (under Tubby)- Adam Williams, Bernard Cote, Rekalin Sims, Shagari Alleyne, Jason Parker, Marvin Stone, Myron Anthony, Corey Sears, Desmond Allison, Nate Knight, Todd Tackett, Rashaad Carruth, Adam Chiles, Michael Bradley. (14)
LSU- Ross Neltner, Magnum Rolle, Ben Voogd, Kentrell Gransberry, Tack Minor, Regis Koundija, Josh Maravich, JueMichael Young, Mildon Ambres, Tim Bush, Tony Gipson. (11)
Mississippi State- Richard Delk, Reginald Delk, Vernon Goodridge, Bernard Rimmer, Gary Ervin, Walter Sharpe, Jerrell Houston, Steven Cowherd. (8)
Ole Miss- Justin Cerasoli, Trey Hampton, Andy Ogide, Xavier Hansbro
South Carolina- Jason Parker, Dameon Kinloch, Travis Kraft, Calvin Clemmons, Jojo Cadray, Issa Konare, Marcus Morrison, Paulius Jonelunius, Stephen McDowell, Ousmane Konate, Jarrod Gerald, Keving Palacios, Greg Taylor. (13)
Tennessee- Marques Johnson, Harris Walker, Terrance Woods, Boomer Herndon, Damion Harris, John Winchester, Elgrace Wilborn, Tony Passley. (8)
Vanderbilt- Richmond, Jones, Kreuger, Plavich, Thornton, Payton, Carroll, Madsen, Brown. (9)


http://www.willpridemore.com/2007/10/on-basketball-departures.html

Now that is what I call "a voice of reason"...thank you.

[TrueblueCATfan]

let's see.......Billy Donovan has had Christian Dreijer (to play pro), Brandon Powell, David Huertas, Ryan Appleby, Mohammed Abukar, Mario Boggan, James White, Jimmie Sutton, Orien Green, Rashid Al-Kaleem, Jonathan Mitchell, Jack Berry, and Jai Lucas leave during the last 7 or so years. So I guess you're right....I won't even try to rationalize because all Billy has to show for it is two national titles and everybody knows that in this day and age those things are a dime a dozen!

here's another list (from oct 2007) of recent transfers from sec schools:
there's alot so it's easy to understand why the SEC has sucked so bad lately.



Alabama- Avery Jukes, Verice Cloyd, Akini Adkins, Shawn Taylor, Albert Weber, Glen Miles, LaKory Daniels, Sam Haginas, Justin Jonas. (9)
Arkansas- Sylvester Seay, Preston Cranford, Sean McCurdy, Berry Jordan, JJ Sullinger, Wen Mukubu, Rashard Sullivan, Kendrick Davis. (8)
Auburn- Toney Douglas, Lewis Monroe, Marco Killingsworth, DeWayne Curtis, Joey Cameron, Kelvin Lewis, Brandon Robinson, Ryan Daniel, Michael Woodard, Emmanuel Lewis, Daniel Hayles, Moses Edun. (12)
Florida- Teddy Dupay (gambling), Christian Dreijer (to play pro), Brandon Powell, David Huertas, Ryan Appleby, Mohammed Abukar, Mario Boggan, James White, Jimmie Sutton, Orien Green, Rashid Al-Kaleem. (11)
Georgia- Channing Toney, Wayne Arnold, Marcus Sikes, Younes Idrissi, Kendrick Johnson, Steve Thomas, Mike Dean. (7)
Kentucky (under Tubby)- Adam Williams, Bernard Cote, Rekalin Sims, Shagari Alleyne, Jason Parker, Marvin Stone, Myron Anthony, Corey Sears, Desmond Allison, Nate Knight, Todd Tackett, Rashaad Carruth, Adam Chiles, Michael Bradley. (14)
LSU- Ross Neltner, Magnum Rolle, Ben Voogd, Kentrell Gransberry, Tack Minor, Regis Koundija, Josh Maravich, JueMichael Young, Mildon Ambres, Tim Bush, Tony Gipson. (11)
Mississippi State- Richard Delk, Reginald Delk, Vernon Goodridge, Bernard Rimmer, Gary Ervin, Walter Sharpe, Jerrell Houston, Steven Cowherd. (8)
Ole Miss- Justin Cerasoli, Trey Hampton, Andy Ogide, Xavier Hansbro
South Carolina- Jason Parker, Dameon Kinloch, Travis Kraft, Calvin Clemmons, Jojo Cadray, Issa Konare, Marcus Morrison, Paulius Jonelunius, Stephen McDowell, Ousmane Konate, Jarrod Gerald, Keving Palacios, Greg Taylor. (13)
Tennessee- Marques Johnson, Harris Walker, Terrance Woods, Boomer Herndon, Damion Harris, John Winchester, Elgrace Wilborn, Tony Passley. (8)
Vanderbilt- Richmond, Jones, Kreuger, Plavich, Thornton, Payton, Carroll, Madsen, Brown. (9)


http://www.willpridemore.com/2007/10/on-basketball-departures.html

you forgot Loserville...they have had quite a few leave over the years
oh wait I am confused that was the football team where they all got kicked off for something or another:eek:

[JWORLD]

In defense of Gillispie, if he doesn't put his foot down then for the players that do come to work, he could lose the respect of the players that do come to work which would make a bad situation even worse. As stubborn as Gillispie is,I don't think Lebron James would get a free pass.I just hope that Harrellson will see this thing through and continue to work hard. It will pay off in the end.Same with Galloway,same with Liggins.

[UKfaninCO]

Other than Legion, for whatever reason, the others were recruits of the former coach. It's not uncommon for the players/recruits to leave after a coaching change. It's absolutely impossible for those of us on the outside to know the reason for any of the players to transfer. I hope Josh doesn't leave, but if he feels it's not in his best interest to stay, he should go. Same with any of the other players. Coach has indicated what it takes to get PT on this team. The players that are sitting the bench are not earning their playing time for whatever reason. If they are not happy with that they have a couple of options, sit the bench, earn your PT, or transfer. Simple as that. While transfers are not desirable, it certainly beats holding a scholarship for someone that is going to do nothing but ride the pine. Josh could probably play more minutes THIS season with a lower level school and do very well. But he's a sophomore and he isn't ready to jump to the NBA at the end of the season even if he played every minute from here to the end of the season. He needs time to learn and get better. I would think he and those close to him would understand that it's a process and just work hard. IMHO, transfers are not a bad thing. It's sometimes a necessary part of growth and neither side should be looked at as the bad guy. This team and coach are still very much in transition and some players that BCG brings in may not fit for whatever reason. I think it is far better for them to transfer out than to sit and fester on the bench, don't you?

[Will Lavender]

I see nothing about this on the UK boards. Could be the shows in St. Louis picking up the Facebook thing from last week and making it a story. With these deals, there's usually somebody in the know on the boards. I see not a thing.

Anyway. I absolutely love it when a player decides he wants to leave and the fanbase decides the coach "ran him off."

Brilliance personified. :thumbup:

[boomdaddy]

If playing time is the issue, Galloway and Stewart are the ones who should be pissed.

[TrueblueCATfan]

If playing time is the issue, Galloway and Stewart are the ones who should be pissed.

or Carter:icon_cry:

[jjcatfan000]

I'm not saying BCG promised anything to Josh or that this is true I just thought it was strange that two different stations were talking about it this morning. Not sure if there is anything to this or not, just wanted to pass aong what I heard on the radio today.

Of course he promised him playing time. And no this isn't another bashing Billy Gillispie post. Why would any player that was RECRUITED commit to a school if he didn't think he would get significant playing time? Gillispie is a salesman and he obviously sold Josh on the fact he would get playing time.

edit: Apparently he offered him a college education, a spot in the starting lineup, and 60-70 touches :)

(just fast forward to 3 quarters of the way through)

http://cdn4.libsyn.com/deener/harrelson.mp3?nvb=20081125000612&nva=20081126000612&t=007526c1312061a4ffc20

[boomdaddy]

or Carter:icon_cry:


I agree. Carter should get at least 5 minutes a game.

[nccoach32]

:thumbup: Great Post! I guess Bruce Willis will be here at any moment to clean up the mess. haha

This time he doesn't sacrifice himself, instead he makes Billy G stay behind and then coaches the "DIE HARD" way and brings home #8....


well I guess you guys are right. The end of the world has come. On top of that, we have now`learned after a season and 3 games, that we got the wrong coach. Unbelievable how this has all happened:icon_rolleyes:

[JWORLD]

Harrellson started the second half.............

[wildcat6]

Exactly right, but Stevenson isn't a senior. So we need two more.


I bet Williams will be gone by seasons end. That will free up another.

[Will Lavender]

I bet Williams will be gone by seasons end. That will free up another.

He was here under the assumption that his scholarship as just a one-year deal.

[wildcat6]

He was here under the assumption that his scholarship as just a one-year deal.


That is what I was thinking. That would certainly free up another scholarship. I don't know where the second would come from though.

[DBCAT]

I saw nothing tonight that would suggest Josh is unhappy. He looked better than he has since the first exhibition. He really looked like he was fitting in to the game and feeling more comfortable. I think we will see good things out of Josh for the rest of his career at UK.

[wildcat6]

I saw nothing tonight that would suggest Josh is unhappy. He looked better than he has since the first exhibition. He really looked like he was fitting in to the game and feeling more comfortable. I think we will see good things out of Josh for the rest of his career at UK.


Agreed. Harrellson certainly looked focused and posied for most of the game. He played like he was working towards something bigger here tonight. Hopefully, that translates to this being a rumor.

[Terry L. Wildcat]

I saw nothing tonight that would suggest Josh is unhappy. He looked better than he has since the first exhibition. He really looked like he was fitting in to the game and feeling more comfortable. I think we will see good things out of Josh for the rest of his career at UK.

I love his hustle and hope this is all internet bs.

[Blue Bleeder1]

I love his hustle and hope this is all internet bs.


me too

[DenCat]

I checked out some of the St Louis TV stations websites and there is nothing on them.

[Craig the Blueheart]

I have friends who live in STL, and are SLU fans, and they have also heard nothing. This looks like a long thread of nothing.

[crazzedcats22]

I have friends who live in STL, and are SLU fans, and they have also heard nothing. This looks like a long thread of nothing.

It was definitely not nothing. I live in St. Louis and they were talking about it on two stations yesterday morning. I don't know if there is any truth to it, or if it's because of the Facebook thing, or someone heard something here from someone, but if it was absolutely nothing I don't think 2 different sports radio stations would have spent 5-10 minutes talking about it.

[boomdaddy]

I agree. Carter should get at least 5 minutes a game.

I would like to officially state that I mad a mistake in the statement above. After watching last nights game, that kid just doesn't appear to have any D1 basketball in him.