Western Kentucky 68, #3 Louisville 54

[BigBlue75]

Seriously?









Seriously?






I mean, really.




Really?


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I was going to leave this alone, but by gosh, we had to put up with this a couple of weeks ago, so it's you Card fans turn now. Oh, and BTW, the words above are a cut and paste exact quote from a similar thread started by a Card fan who will remain anonymous (you know who you are) after the VMI game. I TOLD you your time was coming, but you poo-pooed it as always. How does it feel? Especially with the knowledge that this same WKU team lost earlier to Murray State.

Okay. I consider things even now. Let's move on to the next thing (when and whatever that happens to be. :icon_mrgreen: )

[TrueblueCATfan]

you go BB75

I love it:thumbup:

[ryanebelhar]

Louisville's top 10 womens team lost to unranked Nevada as well

[TrueblueCATfan]

Guess it was a bad day to be a BIRDIE fan:eek::eek::eek:

[chworld22]

If their football team had played they would have had a trio of loses but there is always THURSDAY!!! LOL

[Yuleofell]

As bad as the effort was against WKU, UL needs to be humiliated as mush as possible. Please keep it up.

[chworld22]

As bad as the effort was against WKU, UL needs to be humiliated as mush as possible. Please keep it up.

That is the crap that Pitino tries to feed his fan base at every school to answer why he loses these early games when he has a "#3" team. What a cop out that is. This team is cocky and needs to be taken down a knotch. What a bunch of garbage.

[Yuleofell]

That is the crap that Pitino tries to feed his fan base at every school to answer why he loses these early games when he has a "#3" team. What a cop out that is. This team is cocky and needs to be taken down a knotch. What a bunch of garbage.


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[chworld22]

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Is it hard to comprehend what I am saying. Let me break it down a little clearer.

Every year he loses to a weak team at the beginning of the season or right before the NCAA starts and he comes with the well we needed a ego check. EVERY year? You would think that at some point he would be able to get though to the players and let them know that they aren't as good as they think. Come on Slick Rick you can't spin everything to make it come up smelling like roses. You lost to a better team yesterday because you can't coach worth a crap anymore. You have a team that is jacking threes without even two passes most of the night and not hitting anything don't you think that has a little to do with coaching. Can he not get in their face and tell them not to shoot threes every time down without a few passes thrown in?

[lighthouse]

One thing you have to remember about Pitino. He creates a game plan, and no matter what happens he sticks to it. He is not a very good bench coach, and never has been. Remember the UK loss to Arizona when they beat our press all night and he wouldn't call it off. Sometime he's right, but if he isn't, :shrug1: !!!

[4thecards]

WKU went to the sweet sixteen last year. VMI didn't even make the tournament.



Seriously though, we shouldn't have lost to them. This team is going to have to realize they have to play every night. Not just show up.

[John Clay Rice Jr.]

WKU went to the sweet sixteen last year. VMI didn't even make the tournament.
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Yes but they lost their coach and their star players.

[TrueblueCATfan]

WKU went to the sweet sixteen last year. VMI didn't even make the tournament.



Seriously though, we shouldn't have lost to them. This team is going to have to realize they have to play every night. Not just show up.

WKU lost their head coach and all their star players ..trust me they are NOT the same team that went to the sweet 16

they lost to Murray State by 28 points

face it bird brains..this was a BAD loss

[BigBlue75]

WKU went to the sweet sixteen last year. VMI didn't even make the tournament.



Seriously though, we shouldn't have lost to them. This team is going to have to realize they have to play every night. Not just show up.

Since you added the "seriously" part, I'm going to temper my remarks just a bit.

I'm sorry, but we all know that the only reason you mentioned how well WKU did last year is because you're just trying to justify the loss and making it seem like WKU is this powerhouse and losing to them should come as no surprise. It's the same old spin doctoring you've been doing for a least a year. If the 'Toppers had beaten UK, you and your pals would have posted about five threads giving us nothing but grief about it and having a high old time. But, WKU beat Louisville so it's perfectly understandable..after all, they're a good team.

GW and San Diego proved to be very good teams last season and at least one of them made the NCAA tournament, if I'm not mistaken. By mid-year, a lot of the media pundits were even saying that they were wrong in saying their victories over UK weren't as surprising, after all. But are you Cardinal fans going to acknowledge that? No, of course not.

Now, before you go gettin' your back up, let me say that while I agree the Cards shouldn't have lost, I'm expecting them to bounce back and bounce back quickly. That game didn't make or break your season any more than our losses ruined ours.

[Yuleofell]

Is it hard to comprehend what I am saying. Let me break it down a little clearer.

Every year he loses to a weak team at the beginning of the season or right before the NCAA starts and he comes with the well we needed a ego check. EVERY year? You would think that at some point he would be able to get though to the players and let them know that they aren't as good as they think. Come on Slick Rick you can't spin everything to make it come up smelling like roses. You lost to a better team yesterday because you can't coach worth a crap anymore. You have a team that is jacking threes without even two passes most of the night and not hitting anything don't you think that has a little to do with coaching. Can he not get in their face and tell them not to shoot threes every time down without a few passes thrown in?

Every year he loses to a weak team at the beginning of the season or right before the NCAA starts and he comes with the well we needed a ego check.

Since you pointed out so eloquently that Pitino loses one every year in November; have you ever thought he might just lose some of them on purpose? A wily,veteran coach might even get some of his more experienced players to take the night off so to speak. Heck, a REAL crafty coach might upset the offense by changing his starting rotation, stop running the offense through his low post burger boy, put his best shooters on the other team's star offensive player, and sit back and watch what happens.

[BigBlue75]

Every year he loses to a weak team at the beginning of the season or right before the NCAA starts and he comes with the well we needed a ego check.

Since you pointed out so eloquently that Pitino loses one every year in November; have you ever thought he might just lose some of them on purpose? .

Name us ONE coach in this country, in any sport, that has ever intentionally lost a game. And back it up with facts, not speculation.

You can't do it.

[chworld22]

Every year he loses to a weak team at the beginning of the season or right before the NCAA starts and he comes with the well we needed a ego check.

Since you pointed out so eloquently that Pitino loses one every year in November; have you ever thought he might just lose some of them on purpose? A wily,veteran coach might even get some of his more experienced players to take the night off so to speak. Heck, a REAL crafty coach might upset the offense by changing his starting rotation, stop running the offense through his low post burger boy, put his best shooters on the other team's star offensive player, and sit back and watch what happens.

LOL yea I think that is a great strategy to employ.

But have you ever thought that maybe just maybe he is getting out coached by another coach and after losing he blames it on something other than that so that he still looks like a genius. Seriously you guys and your ability to just follow blindly with everything that jacka says is amazing to me. Whatever he says is the truth. He talks out the side of his face at all times and spins things so he comes out looking so sweet.

[TrueblueCATfan]

Every year he loses to a weak team at the beginning of the season or right before the NCAA starts and he comes with the well we needed a ego check.

Since you pointed out so eloquently that Pitino loses one every year in November; have you ever thought he might just lose some of them on purpose? A wily,veteran coach might even get some of his more experienced players to take the night off so to speak. Heck, a REAL crafty coach might upset the offense by changing his starting rotation, stop running the offense through his low post burger boy, put his best shooters on the other team's star offensive player, and sit back and watch what happens.

Please.....We did not just get off the turnip truck Yule..I can't believe you said that

[4thecards]

First of all BB75, it's nice to know you save quotes from me. ;)

Second, like I said before, WKU is an in-state school who has in-state players, two of which had monster games. They have a lot more incentive than a small school with players from all over the country like a GW or VMI.

Third, as mentioned before, this was a game on a neutral court. UofK lost those games at home, in Rupp.

Now, I'm not making excuses for the loss, we should not have lost that game,but losing to WKU and lossing to VMI or GW are two different things.

Too bad UofL can't schedule Longwood and not play the smaller in-state schools like UK.

[TrueblueCATfan]

First of all BB75, it's nice to know you save quotes from me. ;)

Second, like I said before, WKU is an in-state school who has in-state players, two of which had monster games. They have a lot more incentive than a small school with players from all over the country like a GW or VMI.

Third, as mentioned before, this was a game on a neutral court. UofK lost those games at home, in Rupp.

Now, I'm not making excuses for the loss, we should not have lost that game,but losing to WKU and lossing to VMI or GW are two different things.

Too bad UofL can't schedule Longwood and not play the smaller in-state schools like UK.


well lets see we play Lamar wedneday night and you play them next week

Is that fair enough

WKU is down this year....don't kidd yourself

[TrueblueCATfan]

Since you Birds keep bringing up GW well I will bring up Dayton..you know that team you lost to 3 years in a row and NOW is no longer on your schedule

[chworld22]

First of all BB75, it's nice to know you save quotes from me. ;)

Second, like I said before, WKU is an in-state school who has in-state players, two of which had monster games. They have a lot more incentive than a small school with players from all over the country like a GW or VMI.

Third, as mentioned before, this was a game on a neutral court. UofK lost those games at home, in Rupp.

Now, I'm not making excuses for the loss, we should not have lost that game,but losing to WKU and lossing to VMI or GW are two different things.

Too bad UofL can't schedule Longwood and not play the smaller in-state schools like UK.

GW was last year. VMI was this year but they are also the leading scoring team in the NCAA for the past two years at least it isn't that far of a cry to say that the WKU and VMI loses are similar. Now UK lost at home so that give them the worst loss but they aren't far off. Especially when you add in that UL was ranked in the top five and all the talk of NCAA championships that has been on the lips of your bird brothers. I would say adding in the top five ranking and all preseason hype that gives UL the slight edge in having the worst loss yet this season.

[BigBlue75]

First of all BB75, it's nice to know you save quotes from me. ;)

Second, like I said before, WKU is an in-state school who has in-state players, two of which had monster games. They have a lot more incentive than a small school with players from all over the country like a GW or VMI.

Third, as mentioned before, this was a game on a neutral court. UofK lost those games at home, in Rupp.

Now, I'm not making excuses for the loss, we should not have lost that game,but losing to WKU and lossing to VMI or GW are two different things.

Too bad UofL can't schedule Longwood and not play the smaller in-state schools like UK.

Actually, I didn't save your quote. Don't flatter yourself. It's still active on the board. I just had to click over a couple of pages, find it, and then I did a cut and paste. :icon_mrgreen:

As far as the rest of that, well, you can have your opinion, I suppose, but I'm afraid that the THEN-ranked number 3 team in the country losing to a rebuilding team should never, ever happen. I might be willing (emphasis on might) to cut you some slack if the 'Toppers had won on fluke shot, like a tip-in at the buzzer or on a Hail Mary three pointer thrown up from mid-court, stuff happens. But that wasn't the case. They double teamed Samuels and basically shut him down in the second half, while you guys barely shot 30% for the game, and they won by 14 points! You guys were trumpeting being ranked in the top five and then you turn around and get embarrassed by an unranked opponent. You can sugar coat it all you like.I agree there is a difference in your loss to Western and ours. Our losses didn't get top billing on the sports channels and wasn't called "the first major upset this season". And what the heck difference does it make if it was a neutral floor or at Freedom Hall? So what if WKU is an in state school and our opponents weren't? How much more incentive does a team need when they're playing the number 3 team in the nation?

If you guys aren't scheduling teams like Longwood and Delaware State, it's on one person. Maybe he doesn't have enough money in the budget for it. ;)

[chworld22]

Actually, I didn't save your quote. Don't flatter yourself. It's still active on the board. I just had to click over a couple of pages, find it, and then I did a cut and paste. :icon_mrgreen:

As far as the rest of that, well, you can have your opinion, I suppose, but I'm afraid that the THEN-ranked number 3 team in the country losing to a rebuilding team should never, ever happen. I might be willing (emphasis on might) to cut you some slack if the 'Toppers had won on fluke shot, like a tip-in at the buzzer or on a Hail Mary three pointer thrown up from mid-court, stuff happens. But that wasn't the case. They double teamed Samuels and basically shut him down in the second half, while you guys barely shot 30% for the game, and they won by 14 points! You guys were trumpeting being ranked in the top five and then you turn around and get embarrassed by an unranked opponent. You can sugar coat it all you like.I agree there is a difference in your loss to Western and ours. Our losses didn't get top billing on the sports channels and wasn't called "the first major upset this season". And what the heck difference does it make if it was a neutral floor or at Freedom Hall? So what if WKU is an in state school and our opponents weren't? How much more incentive does a team need when they're playing the number 3 team in the nation?

If you guys aren't scheduling teams like Longwood and Delaware State, it's on one person. Maybe he doesn't have enough money in the budget for it. ;)

Not that really matters since Longwood and the others are just as on par with Murray St just not in state schools. UL plays Lamar right after UK does also so if I were a UL fan I wouldn't even bring up schedules. Not to mention UK has actually lost one of their two games to the #1 team in the nation and UL hasn't even played a team that is #1 in their league.

[ontheroadto8]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/standings

:icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol:
U of smelL currently 15th in the 16 team Big East...oh dear!

[lighthouse]

Every year he loses to a weak team at the beginning of the season or right before the NCAA starts and he comes with the well we needed a ego check.

Since you pointed out so eloquently that Pitino loses one every year in November; have you ever thought he might just lose some of them on purpose? A wily,veteran coach might even get some of his more experienced players to take the night off so to speak. Heck, a REAL crafty coach might upset the offense by changing his starting rotation, stop running the offense through his low post burger boy, put his best shooters on the other team's star offensive player, and sit back and watch what happens.

I can't believe you posted that comment. If you thought for a milli-second that your coach would in any way throw a game, you and any other fan would throw a fit. You got beat by a much lesser team. Get over it!

[4thecards]

Strangely, no posts on here about WKU beating an SEC school last night. An SEC school who went further in the tournament last year than UK.

[TrueblueCATfan]

Strangely, no posts on here about WKU beating an SEC school last night. An SEC school who went further in the tournament last year than UK.

I loved it......big WKU fan here......Glad the Toppers won

and for the record...Georgia was not ranked 3rd in the country

[John Clay Rice Jr.]

I loved it......big WKU fan here......Glad the Toppers won

and for the record...Georgia was not ranked 3rd in the country
And UGA was fluke last year.

[BigBlue75]

Strangely, no posts on here about WKU beating an SEC school last night. An SEC school who went further in the tournament last year than UK.

WRONG!

You're so bleetin' obsessed with getting in a dig at UK you can't even pay attention to getting the facts right. Georgia DID NOT, I repeat, DID NOT advance farther than UK in the NCAA tournament. Period. And so what if WKU beat an SEC school last night? Your precious Cardinals didn't have a hand in it, which means it didn't have ANYTHING to do with ANYTHING. Geez, all you guys have left is sitting around hoping some other school does something that you might be able to twist and turn into a slam at UK or the SEC. It figures.

UK beat West Virginia, a Big East school, 54-43 in their last game. And we won a tournament championship in doing so. You didn't see one of us coming on here making a big deal out of it and acting like it was a put-down on Louisville, did you?

No, you jokers just come into the season like you always do, thumpin' your chest and bragging about pre-season rankings and then when the Cards get their heads handed to 'em and your coach goes on his website and apologizes to the fans for losing, you guys act like it was perfectly acceptable for the number 3 team in the country to lose to an unranked opponent.

[4thecards]

WRONG!

You're so bleetin' obsessed with getting in a dig at UK you can't even pay attention to getting the facts right. Georgia DID NOT, I repeat, DID NOT advance farther in the NCAA tournament. Period. And so what if WKU beat an SEC school last night? Your precious Cardinals didn't have a hand in it, which means it didn't have ANYTHING to do with ANYTHING. Geez, all you guys have left is sitting around hoping some other school does something that you might be able to twist and turn into a slam at UK or the SEC. It figures.

UK beat West Virginia, a Big East school, 54-43 in their last game. You didn't see one of us coming on here making a big deal out of it and acting like it was a put-down on Louisville, did you?

Easy there, BB75. I was just pointing out that maybe WKU isn't as bad as we all thought.

And sorry, I should have specified the SEC tournament.

[Radiated]

Easy there, BB75. I was just pointing out that maybe WKU isn't as bad as we all thought.

And sorry, I should have specified the SEC tournament.

I don't recall anyone saying that WKU was a bad team.

And it took an act of God to have Georgia win that last year. A tornado in fact.

[BigBlue75]

Easy there, BB75. I was just pointing out that maybe WKU isn't as bad as we all thought.

And sorry, I should have specified the SEC tournament.

I'm with Radiated. No one has ever said WKY wasn't a good team. And while I appreciate you correcting yourself, loyalties aside, surely you can't possibly look at the circumstances surrounding the SEC tournament last year and not take that as a mitigating factor in UK's loss? Please tell me that slamming UK is so important to you that even hazardous conditions don't change anything.

Oh, and for the record, the bold print was for emphasis, not to reflect anger, okay?

[4thecards]

I'm with Radiated. No one has ever said WKY wasn't a good team. And while I appreciate you correcting yourself, loyalties aside, surely you can't possibly look at the circumstances surrounding the SEC tournament last year and not take that as a mitigating factor in UK's loss? Please tell me that slamming UK is so important to you that even hazardous conditions don't change anything.

Oh, and for the record, the bold print was for emphasis, not to reflect anger, okay?

BB75, correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't that storm effect every team in the tournament and not just UK? Didn't Georgia have to play two games in one day?

[TrueblueCATfan]

WKU is not a bad team BUT they are no where near what they had last year.....they could not be...they lost 5 seniors and a head coach
they beat Loserville and came back and beat Georgia.....good for their program and first year head coach Ken McDonald

[BigBlue75]

BB75, correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't that storm effect every team in the tournament and not just UK? Didn't Georgia have to play two games in one day?

Yes, and people are different, and they are going to react to adversity differently. It was a traumatic situation and it was by the grace of God people didn't get killed in that arena that night. It happened the way it happened. I'm not going to try and replay the events of that evening and weekend just to try and make a point to someone who is obviously so ate up with school loyalty that he just HAS to find a way to insult his school's rival.
If it's that important to you, 4TC, yes, you're absolutely right. Georgia advanced farther in last year's SEC tournament than UK did. Never mind that players and coaches and fans could have been seriously hurt or killed and the whole frickin' tournament had to be re-organized on the fly, that's not important. No, you're quite correct.

There. You feel better now? :thumbdn::icon_neutral:

[4thecards]

Yes, and people are different, and they are going to react to adversity differently. It was a traumatic situation and it was by the grace of God people didn't get killed in that arena that night. It happened the way it happened. I'm not going to try and replay the events of that evening and weekend just to try and make a point to someone who is obviously so ate up with school loyalty that he just HAS to find a way to insult his school's rival.
If it's that important to you, 4TC, yes, you're absolutely right. Georgia advanced farther in last year's SEC tournament than UK did. Never mind that players and coaches and fans could have been seriously hurt or killed and the whole frickin' tournament had to be re-organized on the fly, that's not important. No, you're quite correct.

There. You feel better now? :thumbdn::icon_neutral:

BB75, please don't try to make me out as being insensitive to the events that happened at the SEC tournament last season. I know exactly how dangerous the situation was. I know people could have been injured or killed for that matter, but you are putting words in my post that I NEVER said or even insinuated. Did I make fun of that particular situation? Did I even come close to sounding like I was taking that situation lightly? If I did or you perceived it that way, then I apologize, but I don't think I did.

Besides, if the situation were that bad, why did the SEC continue the tournament the next day? Why not just give the regular season champ the title and cancel the tournament? Why were so many UK fans complaining that they weren't going to get to see their team play after the tournament was moved? Were they being insensitive to the situation? I mean, if conditions were as bad and as dangerous as you say, why would UK fans be concerned about whether or not they will get to see their team play instead of just coming home and letting the Atlanta officials take care of business?

Again, I apologize if you took my post that way, but please stop trying to make me out as someone who hates UK and everything associated with it. I come here to give you guys a hard time and take a little grief when appropriate, but in no way shape or form am I small minded enough to want harm to come to a human being because of a team they root for.

[BigBlue75]

Okay, 4TC, I'll plead guilty to over-reacting a bit, but when you mentioned Georgia going farther than UK in the tournament and left it at that, I really didn't know what to think. I have friends who are U of L grads a/o fans, and you wouldn't believe some of the guff I have to put up with..and usually I'm not the instigator. Sometimes it's hard to get a read on what someone really thinks..especially if the words are typed and not spoken.

For the record, no, I didn't and don't think you or any other Card fan is that insensitive to place school loyalty over the possbility of people getting hurt. I, too, apologize for any implication, real or imagined.

No one expected a tornado to blow through downtown Atlanta at any time, much less on the weekend of the SEC tournament. Could the SEC have handled it better? Probably. Should the tournament have been postponed or cancelled altogether and some other contingency worked out? Who knows. As far as the UK fans who complained. Well, people are people. Once the danger was past, they immediately went back into "fan mode". It doesn't make it right, it's just the way it happened.

UK and Georgia could have played that game in the same circumstances a hundred different times and there might have been different outcome each time. We'll never know.