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ukblue22
01-08-2009, 05:00 AM
Finally a school with an idea of what loyalty means.

BC fires Jagodzinski after coach met with Jets

The man who fired Jeff Jagodzinski for interviewing with the New York Jets (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/teams/nyj/) called Wednesday the hardest day in his 12 years as Boston College’s athletic director.
Athletic director Gene DeFilippo declined to speculate during a 20-minute news conference—at which he said “I love Jags”—if the coach preferred the technical, Xs-and-Os job of an NFL coach to the college job with its recruiting and glad-handing of supporters.

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-bostoncollege-coach&prov=ap&type=lgns

cumberlandredskin
01-08-2009, 06:06 AM
Now will BC go talk to a coach who is under contract at another school? Just sayin'.

ukcatfan
01-08-2009, 06:54 AM
I thought this was the United States of America where a person that was trying to improve himself had a right to even if others thought he was wrong.

UKFBFAN
01-08-2009, 07:32 AM
The guy had a contract. BC just enforced it. A first??

Chaz
01-08-2009, 07:41 AM
Now will BC go talk to a coach who is under contract at another school? Just sayin'.
I'm sure that they will seek permission to talk to them first as is the usual custom. In the BC coaches case, no permission was asked, which is the customary thing to do. How about everyone look at both sides before making biased statements.

JFCats22
01-08-2009, 08:57 AM
I thought this was the United States of America where a person that was trying to improve himself had a right to even if others thought he was wrong.

I thought so as well. Apparently, BC thinks we live in Iraq or something.

BLUE-K
01-08-2009, 11:20 AM
If you guys think we are free to do anything just because we are Americans, you need to read the fine print in all the laws we have.

A contract is a representation of an expressed agreement between two parties. If the contract's rules ("laws") are not abided by, then the contract is null and void for the perpetrator, and control is awarded to the other party.

rsjones1983
01-08-2009, 11:26 AM
There was an agreement when the coach was hired that if he went seeking other jobs w/in the first 2-3 years that would be cause for termination. He went seeking and got terminated. BC just held up their end of the deal, I don't see anything wrong with this.

bret1555
01-08-2009, 05:26 PM
I still don't think this is a good move for BC. . . I can't imagine that I would ever want a coach who didn't want to take an NFL interview. I understand restricting him from conference schools or schools on the schedule, but this isn't smart (even if it is legal). If I am a young hotshot coach & BC comes a callin' I have to think to myself. . . What if I do a really great job and get noticed by the Dallas Cowboys -- do I turn down an interview with America's Team for fear of being fired?

I'm just saying.

boomdaddy
01-08-2009, 06:00 PM
If the coach was happy and content to be there, he wouldn't be doing interviews. BC has the right to kick his unloyal butt to the curb. UK was at the mercy of Pitino, every season. Tubby had a deal working in mid season, without UK's knowledge, and bolted at the end of the season. Coaches are notorious for not having any loyalty.

Another argument might come up about assistants, but it doesn't change the program as much as the head coach leaving. And, everybody knows that assistants don't have the big buyouts that head coaches have if they get fired.

bret1555
01-08-2009, 06:07 PM
If the coach was happy and content to be there, he wouldn't be doing interviews. BC has the right to kick his unloyal butt to the curb. UK was at the mercy of Pitino, every season. Tubby had a deal working in mid season, without UK's knowledge, and bolted at the end of the season. Coaches are notorious for not having any loyalty.

Another argument might come up about assistants, but it doesn't change the program as much as the head coach leaving. And, everybody knows that assistants don't have the big buyouts that head coaches have if they get fired.

As a professional, if a business at the highest level of your profession shows interest in you, it is not loyalty to dismiss them out of hand, it is simply lunacy. The Jets are an NFL team, he owes it to himself and his family to at least hear what they have to say and test his mettle. It has nothing to do with his contentment or happiness.

If I am an athletic director, I don't know how much I would want a coach who has no desire or interest in coaching in the NFL.

As for Tubby, though I am not sure what he has to do with a football forum, I'm not sure there has ever been anything but innuendo and half-truths that would indicate he was negotiating a deal mid-season.

Blue 24/7
01-08-2009, 06:13 PM
As a professional, if a business at the highest level of your profession shows interest in you, it is not loyalty to dismiss them out of hand, it is simply lunacy. The Jets are an NFL team, he owes it to himself and his family to at least hear what they have to say and test his mettle. It has nothing to do with his contentment or happiness.

If I am an athletic director, I don't know how much I would want a coach who has no desire or interest in coaching in the NFL.

As for Tubby, though I am not sure what he has to do with a football forum, I'm not sure there has ever been anything but innuendo and half-truths that would indicate he was negotiating a deal mid-season.

I doubt the problem was his desire or interest in coaching in the NFL. One would have to believe that, had he requested permission to talk with them it would have been granted.

Most high school and/or college athletes would be more than interested in talking with a pro scout, but there are rules in place about how that can happen. So should their desire to be in the NFL be seen as admirable and the rules they're breaking be overlooked?

boomdaddy
01-08-2009, 06:19 PM
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boomdaddy
01-08-2009, 06:21 PM
As a professional, if a business at the highest level of your profession shows interest in you, it is not loyalty to dismiss them out of hand, it is simply lunacy. The Jets are an NFL team, he owes it to himself and his family to at least hear what they have to say and test his mettle. It has nothing to do with his contentment or happiness.

If I am an athletic director, I don't know how much I would want a coach who has no desire or interest in coaching in the NFL.

As for Tubby, though I am not sure what he has to do with a football forum, I'm not sure there has ever been anything but innuendo and half-truths that would indicate he was negotiating a deal mid-season.


You don't know what a high profile college basketball coach's agent involved with talks with another university has to do with a coach's loyalty to a university? Gee, I can't figure out why I brought it up, either?

As for the scenario of if I was a college AD, I would be delighted if I had a big time coach that had no desire to go to the pros, especially if he was a winning coach.

yitbos
01-08-2009, 07:02 PM
I just wonder if BC would have held up their end of the contract had he only had a few wins in his first two seasons. Would they have fired him for lack of performance, even though he was under contract? We will never know, but in modern sports, a contract doesn't mean much from either side.